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Message started by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 8:57pm

Title: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 8:57pm
Just when gay bashing was eradicated (to a point of far fewer anyway). In come the greens and bring it back in spades.

Talk about irony.



“A man in Paris, France was reportedly beaten for walking with arm in arm with his boyfriend Olivier early Sunday morning. Wilfred de Bruijn, a French resident, says he was assaulted while walking in Paris’ 19th arrondissement. He says he sustained several injuries, including a missing tooth, broken bones, and fractured pieces of bone in his skull. He posted a photo of his wounds on his Facebook page with the caption “Sorry to show you this. It’s the face of homophobia,” reports Al Jazeera.

http://www.infowars.com/photo-of-gay-man-who-walked-through-muslim-suburb-of-paris-with-boyfriend-causes-shock/

Are gays happy to fight for a religion that may also mean gay bashing goes on the rise?

How long do you think it would take to get it out of that religion to make it stop?

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by alevine on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by alevine on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?

Geez you got issues dont you.

The questions are valid on top of irony, even if your prejudice gets in the way.

Are gays happy to fight for a religion that may also mean gay bashing goes on the rise?

How long do you think it would take to get it out of that religion to make it stop?

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Peter Freedman on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm
Fascinating that progs describes himself as "ugly, but not condoned".

Being a bit hard on yourself, mate.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:11pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm:
Fascinating that progs describes himself as "ugly, but not condoned".

Being a bit hard on yourself, mate.

::) believe me when I say that that comeback, response, whatever it was, was pretty close to the most pathetic I have seen on this forum. 4th grade primary school level.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by skippy. on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:12pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



How long do you think it would take to get it out of that religion to make it stop?

I'd like to see conservative buggers bashed, just as a study of course, to see how long before the stupidly could be bashed out of them.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:14pm

skippy. wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:12pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



How long do you think it would take to get it out of that religion to make it stop?

I'd like to see conservative buggers bashed, just as a study of course, to see how long before the stupidly could be bashed out of them.

It would seem you have already been testing the outcome or more to the point, someone has been testing it on you.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Peter Freedman on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:16pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm:
Fascinating that progs describes himself as "ugly, but not condoned".

Being a bit hard on yourself, mate.

::) believe me when I say that that comeback, response, whatever it was, was pretty close to the most pathetic I have seen on this forum. 4th grade primary school level.


A 4th grader would know better than to make such an elementary error.

Laughing at yourself is great therapy. Lighten up, mate.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:20pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:16pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm:
Fascinating that progs describes himself as "ugly, but not condoned".

Being a bit hard on yourself, mate.

::) believe me when I say that that comeback, response, whatever it was, was pretty close to the most pathetic I have seen on this forum. 4th grade primary school level.


A 4th grader would know better than to make such an elementary error.

Laughing at yourself is great therapy. Lighten up, mate.

:-/ :-? ;)

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.

I am interested in the gay demographic because gay bashing has been almost eradicated in Australia and UK(but more population would not seem so to an Australian) and am wondering how they feel about it being in danger of returning more so in a religion that has shown its stubborn  dogma, so will revive for a very long time I would suggest.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by alevine on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:30pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.

I am interested in the gay demographic because gay bashing has been almost eradicated in Australia and UK(but more population would not seem so to an Australian) and am wondering how they feel about it being in danger of returning more so in a religion that has shown its stubborn  dogma, so will revive for a very long time I would suggest.



The prejudices of a few should not stop people from striving to get what is rightfully theirs.  It's as simple as that. One cannot blame the "religion" as you like to call it (and on some level I understand why you do) for the prejudice of others.  And you should not be suggesting to gay people to stop their plight because some in the community may reignite their hatred by using violence.  These are the people with the problem and they are the ones that we must condemn. 

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Frances on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:31pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm:
Fascinating that progs describes himself as "ugly, but not condoned".


You beat me to it.  I was about to post the same thing....

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:36pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.

I am interested in the gay demographic because gay bashing has been almost eradicated in Australia and UK(but more population would not seem so to an Australian) and am wondering how they feel about it being in danger of returning more so in a religion that has shown its stubborn  dogma, so will revive for a very long time I would suggest.



The prejudices of a few should not stop people from striving to get what is rightfully theirs.  It's as simple as that. One cannot blame the "religion" as you like to call it (and on some level I understand why you do) for the prejudice of others.  And you should not be suggesting to gay people to stop their plight because some in the community may reignite their hatred by using violence.  These are the people with the problem and they are the ones that we must condemn. 

I talk of the religion because there is a direct connection to the prejudice and because of its stubborn dogma.

I am in no way suggesting gays do anything apart from hopefully answer my questions. I am actually interested in the conundrum.

The part of linking the greens is the only prejudice I speak because I dont like the greens because of their policies, roots and the greens have greater gay numbers than any other party, so relates to them more.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:39pm
Gee there is a lot of 4th graders in here tonight.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Oh_Yeah on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:48pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 8:57pm:
Are gays happy to fight for a religion that may also mean gay bashing goes on the rise?


Since when have gays "fought" for any religion?
Progs, this thread is ridiculous even by your standards.

I really don't see any irony at all.

The only way it could be ironic is if you make a few ridiculous assumptions.
Left wing defend the rights of Gays - therefore all gays must be left wing
Left wing defend the rights of foreigners - therefore gays must also.
All muslims bash gays - therefore attacks on "gays" are ironic

The stupidity of these assumptions is quite breathtaking even for you progs.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:53pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:48pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 8:57pm:
Are gays happy to fight for a religion that may also mean gay bashing goes on the rise?


Since when have gays "fought" for any religion?
Progs, this thread is ridiculous even by your standards.

I really don't see any irony at all.

The only way it could be ironic is if you make a few ridiculous assumptions.
Left wing defend the rights of Gays - therefore all gays must be left wing
Left wing defend the rights of foreigners - therefore gays must also.
All muslims bash gays - therefore attacks on "gays" are ironic

The stupidity of these assumptions is quite breathtaking even for you progs.

I am not here to teach you my logic, you have your own obviously.

That is your opinion but sadly it reflects more of being blind than anything else.

My thread may not be palatable, but it is relevant.

Title: Re: Although band not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Amadd on Apr 11th, 2013 at 11:21pm
When religion eventually totally loses it's power to send people to hell, it will fall by the wayside or transform itself into more palatable ideals.

Title: Re: Although band not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Chard on Apr 12th, 2013 at 4:40am

Amadd wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 11:21pm:
When religion eventually totally loses it's power to send people to hell, it will fall by the wayside or transform itself into more palatable ideals.


What power is this? That assumes that A. religion is not just a collection of formalized superstitions and there really are invisable sky pixies, and B. that hell is a real, physical location (no, Detroit, Michigan does not count). Sine there isn't any evidence to support either assumption then it stands to reason religion doesn't actually have "power" beyond what the ignorant grant them.

Back to the topic, Abrahamic religions are predisposed to homophobia, who knew. It's not just Muslims, Christians and Jews both do the exact same sh*t. The pronlem isn't the gays, itvs ignorant bastards holding that the ancient social morals of cattle sacrificing primatives is better than not being a dick to their fellow man.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Spot of Borg on Apr 12th, 2013 at 5:07am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:12pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:09pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



How long do you think it would take to get it out of that religion to make it stop?

I'd like to see conservative buggers bashed, just as a study of course, to see how long before the stupidly could be bashed out of them.

It would seem you have already been testing the outcome or more to the point, someone has been testing it on you.


Are you saying conservatives are all gay?

SOB

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Spot of Borg on Apr 12th, 2013 at 5:09am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.

I am interested in the gay demographic because gay bashing has been almost eradicated in Australia and UK(but more population would not seem so to an Australian) and am wondering how they feel about it being in danger of returning more so in a religion that has shown its stubborn  dogma, so will revive for a very long time I would suggest.


All societies dont struggle with gay? I guess not since some have accepted it now.

SOB

Title: Re: Although band not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by KJT1981 on Apr 12th, 2013 at 7:01am

Chard wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 4:40am:

Amadd wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 11:21pm:
When religion eventually totally loses it's power to send people to hell, it will fall by the wayside or transform itself into more palatable ideals.


What power is this? That assumes that A. religion is not just a collection of formalized superstitions and there really are invisable sky pixies, and B. that hell is a real, physical location (no, Detroit, Michigan does not count). Sine there isn't any evidence to support either assumption then it stands to reason religion doesn't actually have "power" beyond what the ignorant grant them.

Back to the topic, Abrahamic religions are predisposed to homophobia, who knew. It's not just Muslims, Christians and Jews both do the exact same sh*t. The pronlem isn't the gays, itvs ignorant bastards holding that the ancient social morals of cattle sacrificing primatives is better than not being a dick to their fellow man.



How about Hancock, Michigan Chard?

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by KJT1981 on Apr 12th, 2013 at 7:02am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 5:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.

I am interested in the gay demographic because gay bashing has been almost eradicated in Australia and UK(but more population would not seem so to an Australian) and am wondering how they feel about it being in danger of returning more so in a religion that has shown its stubborn  dogma, so will revive for a very long time I would suggest.


All societies dont struggle with gay? I guess not since some have accepted it now.

SOB



Does that mean you will 'come out' now Miss Borg?

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:03am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 5:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.

I am interested in the gay demographic because gay bashing has been almost eradicated in Australia and UK(but more population would not seem so to an Australian) and am wondering how they feel about it being in danger of returning more so in a religion that has shown its stubborn  dogma, so will revive for a very long time I would suggest.


All societies dont struggle with gay? I guess not since some have accepted it now.

SOB

I cant see any part about this thread that says societies dont struggle with gay. Well done for totally missing the point of not all societies struggle with gay bashing. They may have in the past and to the point, may again.

Im pretty sure I made the point quite obvious, but you, you are challenged.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by cods on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:26am
go to any pub in Sydney on a Saturday night and see them punch each other out.. its not a gay thing its a male thing..men are like apes they have arms so swing them... what else are they for.

oh I forgot now they also put the boot in.makes them braver I think.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:33am

cods wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:26am:
go to any pub in Sydney on a Saturday night and see them punch each other out.. its not a gay thing its a male thing..men are like apes they have arms so swing them... what else are they for.

oh I forgot now they also put the boot in.makes them braver I think.

Although true cods, it really is another thread on its own. Gay bashing and your every day male on male violence are very seperate issues.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Spot of Borg on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:43am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:03am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 5:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.

I am interested in the gay demographic because gay bashing has been almost eradicated in Australia and UK(but more population would not seem so to an Australian) and am wondering how they feel about it being in danger of returning more so in a religion that has shown its stubborn  dogma, so will revive for a very long time I would suggest.


All societies dont struggle with gay? I guess not since some have accepted it now.

SOB

I cant see any part about this thread that says societies dont struggle with gay. Well done for totally missing the point of not all societies struggle with gay bashing. They may have in the past and to the point, may again.

Im pretty sure I made the point quite obvious, but you, you are challenged.


Gawd. No comprehension skills as usual. You said that rape was different because all societies struggle with it. So no societies struggle with gay or gay bashing?

SOB

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Spot of Borg on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:43am

KJT1981 wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 7:02am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 5:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.

I am interested in the gay demographic because gay bashing has been almost eradicated in Australia and UK(but more population would not seem so to an Australian) and am wondering how they feel about it being in danger of returning more so in a religion that has shown its stubborn  dogma, so will revive for a very long time I would suggest.


All societies dont struggle with gay? I guess not since some have accepted it now.

SOB



Does that mean you will 'come out' now Miss Borg?


You are nothing but a troll

SOB

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:52am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:03am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 5:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.

I am interested in the gay demographic because gay bashing has been almost eradicated in Australia and UK(but more population would not seem so to an Australian) and am wondering how they feel about it being in danger of returning more so in a religion that has shown its stubborn  dogma, so will revive for a very long time I would suggest.


All societies dont struggle with gay? I guess not since some have accepted it now.

SOB

I cant see any part about this thread that says societies dont struggle with gay. Well done for totally missing the point of not all societies struggle with gay bashing. They may have in the past and to the point, may again.

Im pretty sure I made the point quite obvious, but you, you are challenged.


Gawd. No comprehension skills as usual. You said that rape was different because all societies struggle with it. So no societies struggle with gay or gay bashing?

SOB

Gawd, you say gawd. OMG you are ................ I will refrain.

Put it this way for you so it is atleast in a way less confusing for you.

Australia struggles with rape. Australia does not struggle with gay bashing, because it has been virtually eradicated. Gay bashing may be in danger of returning.

There, you get the point yet?

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Spot of Borg on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:54am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:43am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:03am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 5:09am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
The usual "gays are the problem" argument.

It is a bit hard to get the answers to my questions without joining the dots.


Yep just like the blacks were the problem.
And those asians.
and those asylum seekers.
and those muslims.

Why can't they all just f*off, right?



And don't forget:

"They were wearing short skirts, so it's no wonder they were raped".


::)

Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.

I am interested in the gay demographic because gay bashing has been almost eradicated in Australia and UK(but more population would not seem so to an Australian) and am wondering how they feel about it being in danger of returning more so in a religion that has shown its stubborn  dogma, so will revive for a very long time I would suggest.


All societies dont struggle with gay? I guess not since some have accepted it now.

SOB

I cant see any part about this thread that says societies dont struggle with gay. Well done for totally missing the point of not all societies struggle with gay bashing. They may have in the past and to the point, may again.

Im pretty sure I made the point quite obvious, but you, you are challenged.


Gawd. No comprehension skills as usual. You said that rape was different because all societies struggle with it. So no societies struggle with gay or gay bashing?

SOB

Gawd, you say gawd. OMG you are ................ I will refrain.

Put it this way for you so it is atleast in a way less confusing for you.

Australia struggles with rape. Australia does not struggle with gay bashing, because it has been virtually eradicated. Gay bashing may be in danger of returning.

There, you get the point yet?


You werent talking about australia though - you were talking about "societies".

SOB

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:02am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:54am:
You werent talking about australia though - you were talking about "societies".

SOB

Imagine this text is a "shakes head" emoticon

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Spot of Borg on Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:05am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:02am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:54am:
You werent talking about australia though - you were talking about "societies".

SOB

Imagine this text is a "shakes head" emoticon



Quote:
Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.


SOB

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:08am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:05am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:02am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:54am:
You werent talking about australia though - you were talking about "societies".

SOB

Imagine this text is a "shakes head" emoticon



Quote:
Well that is out of the scope of my original questions. I dont know how prevelant that is and rape is something that all societies struggle with really.


SOB

In the context of Australia and UK. This whole thread is a context of itself. 1 post is not.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by cods on Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:12am

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:33am:

cods wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:26am:
go to any pub in Sydney on a Saturday night and see them punch each other out.. its not a gay thing its a male thing..men are like apes they have arms so swing them... what else are they for.

oh I forgot now they also put the boot in.makes them braver I think.

Although true cods, it really is another thread on its own. Gay bashing and your every day male on male violence are very seperate issues.




oh I disagree entirely..how many lesbians do you know that get beaten up??..

its the male.. he thinks its POWER and he sees gays as weak..so they wont hit him back.. cowards I guess...what possesses a person to punch someone until they are mush I do not know....but I am almost sure its a male thing.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:18am

cods wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:12am:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:33am:

cods wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 8:26am:
go to any pub in Sydney on a Saturday night and see them punch each other out.. its not a gay thing its a male thing..men are like apes they have arms so swing them... what else are they for.

oh I forgot now they also put the boot in.makes them braver I think.

Although true cods, it really is another thread on its own. Gay bashing and your every day male on male violence are very seperate issues.




oh I disagree entirely..how many lesbians do you know that get beaten up??..

its the male.. he thinks its POWER and he sees gays as weak..so they wont hit him back.. cowards I guess...what possesses a person to punch someone until they are mush I do not know....but I am almost sure its a male thing.

I have to disagree but acknowledge your point. The reason I disagree is that gay bashing in Australia and UK has/had been virtually eradicated. If it were still prevalent, then your point would be taken wholeheartedly and would probably mask the other reasons for gay bashing. Yes power is certainly one of the reasons. Pure hatred is another. Although both seem to be a male thing as you stated.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Morning Mist on Apr 12th, 2013 at 10:34am
If Islam becomes more prominent in Australia, or anywhere really, expect the persecution of gays to rise.

Although this has been repeated millions of times, there is a glaring contradiction between the international socialist's desire for a unified and harmonious society and their complete lack of criticism toward Islam's intolerance of homosexuality.

Seeing recently the far-left condemn Wilders and support Islam was one of the most dumbest things I've ever experienced. 

Title: Re: Although band not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Annie Anthrax on Apr 12th, 2013 at 10:41am

Chard wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 4:40am:

Amadd wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 11:21pm:
When religion eventually totally loses it's power to send people to hell, it will fall by the wayside or transform itself into more palatable ideals.


What power is this? That assumes that A. religion is not just a collection of formalized superstitions and there really are invisable sky pixies, and B. that hell is a real, physical location (no, Detroit, Michigan does not count). Sine there isn't any evidence to support either assumption then it stands to reason religion doesn't actually have "power" beyond what the ignorant grant them.

Back to the topic, Abrahamic religions are predisposed to homophobia, who knew. It's not just Muslims, Christians and Jews both do the exact same sh*t. The pronlem isn't the gays, itvs ignorant bastards holding that the ancient social morals of cattle sacrificing primatives is better than not being a dick to their fellow man.



Right. Well said.


Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Annie Anthrax on Apr 12th, 2013 at 10:49am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 10:34am:
If Islam becomes more prominent in Australia, or anywhere really, expect the persecution of gays to rise.

Although this has been repeated millions of times, there is a glaring contradiction between the international socialist's desire for a unified and harmonious society and their complete lack of criticism toward Islam's intolerance of homosexuality.

Seeing recently the far-left condemn Wilders and support Islam was one of the most dumbest things I've ever experienced. 



Homophobia and the persecution of gays are rampant in a lot of majority Muslim countries. It's a huge problem. To suggest that it is a problem purely or even primarily associated with Islam is misleading.

I'm not sure if I'm representative of the 'far left', but condemning the general Islamic attitude toward homosexuality and finding Geert Wilders' hatemongering distasteful and dangerous aren't mutually exclusive.

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Robert Paulson on Apr 12th, 2013 at 12:01pm

cods wrote on Apr 12th, 2013 at 9:12am:
oh I disagree entirely..how many lesbians do you know that get beaten up??..


Many, if the stats are to be believed.  It just happens that it's at each others hands.


Quote:
Earlier this year the UCLA Center for Health Policy Research published the results of a survey of over 51,000 California adults: . The UCLA study found 28% of persons in lesbian/gay relationships had experienced intimate partner violence, compared to 17% of persons in heterosexual relationships.

Its also believed that lesbians are more likely to engage in partner violence than gay men. According to the Boston Gay Mens Domestic Violence Project, one in three homosexual women experience partner aggression, compared to only one in four homosexual men.


http://www.healthpolicy.ucla.edu/pubs/files/IPV_PB_031810.pdf


Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Oh_Yeah on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:20am
The only "irony" I see is in the right wing hate site link in the op.


Quote:
The intense media focus on these incidents has served to drive a further wedge between people of different ethnicity, faith and lifestyle – which in the long term will only serve to reduce the ability for people to unite under the banner of freedom in pursuit of their common interests.


;D ;D ;D ;D

So this trashy "Alex Jones Info Wars" hate site is actually admitting that it is part of the problem.

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:38am
Gay bashings in France:

http://www.thelocal.fr/page/view/the-face-of-homophobia-in-france#.UWi1F19AqUk



Title: Re: Although ugly and not condoned, I do see the irony
Post by Robert Paulson on Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:26pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 11:20am:
The only "irony" I see is in the right wing hate site link in the op.


Quote:
The intense media focus on these incidents has served to drive a further wedge between people of different ethnicity, faith and lifestyle – which in the long term will only serve to reduce the ability for people to unite under the banner of freedom in pursuit of their common interests.


;D ;D ;D ;D

So this trashy "Alex Jones Info Wars" hate site is actually admitting that it is part of the problem.

;D ;D ;D ;D


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