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Message started by the wise one on Apr 25th, 2013 at 11:37am

Title: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by the wise one on Apr 25th, 2013 at 11:37am

Quote:
Mr Williams, CEO of News Limited in Australia says we do not need to worry about the domination of the Murdoch press because we now have digital media! “Let’s see if it works” said Dick Smith.

Read Dick’s subsequent probing letter to Mr Williams.

Kim Williams AM
CEO and Managing Director
News Limited
2 Holt St, Surry Hills NSW 2010
Via Email

Dear Kim

Murdoch Censorship Gives the Lie to “Freedom of Speech” Claims

I believe your personal campaign against proposed government media reforms is hypocritical as it is your organisation that is largely responsible for this reaction by our politicians.

You claim, “We are in danger of limiting the full reign of freedom of speech which we cherish and keeps our democracy on its toes.” This is, to put it plainly, claptrap. Your organisation constantly limits freedom of speech and even censors paid announcements when it is in your commercial interests to do so.

You say we shouldn’t worry about your organisation’s dominance of the media as a diversity of opinion can now be had through digital media. Could you be referring to this type of opinion from a popular online site:

“The news industry is failing us; owned by self-interested corporate media barons who put profit before principle. Today’s news is more interested in generating sensationalism and controversy than fulfilling its historic mission of educating the public and our democracies are in danger as a result.”

Never have truer words been said, but where can we read them in print?

Personally, I would prefer that the government’s planned media reforms were not necessary, but I can see why they are being proposed. Many Australian politicians and leaders have told me they are scared of the power of your organisation, and so they should be.

I believe your threats of High Court action are a smokescreen to deflect criticism from the real issue: your organisation’s biased and intimidating reporting. You have one agenda only – the pursuit of ever-increasing profits for your shareholders. You have absolutely no interest in anything other than this and you should admit it, not make false claims implying your prime concerns are freedom of the press and democracy.

I hold the quaint belief it is incumbent on media owners to ensure their papers and broadcasting channels behave responsibly and in the public interest and show leadership on important issues that affect us. And while calling governments to account, they should not so intimidate politicians and public officials that they interfere with the process of rational debate and good policy. Your organisation has clearly failed this test.

I do not need to remind you of the corrupt and criminal activities of many of your proprietor’s employees and their associates in the UK. What is never mentioned is that this has come about as a result of the unwritten “Rupert Murdoch agenda” that if your people don’t achieve ever increasing circulation and profit growth they will lose their jobs.

I must make it clear that I do not blame your journalists; I have found most to be professional and fair-minded. It is obvious that they “self-censor” what they write knowing that if they ever reveal views that are in conflict with your proprietor, then their careers will be brief. This is at complete odds with your claims of ensuring free speech and being concerned about threats to democracy.

And I’m on to you. When friends ask me why your organisation runs such opposing views on climate change – from Fox News’ claims that it’s all bunkum to The Australian newspaper occasionally claiming it’s accepted science – I am able to say, “it’s simple. It’s all about making more money. They have worked out they will get more advertising and make more money on Fox News if climate change is debunked using sensationalism whilst they are likely to get greater circulation and more advertising dollars if The Australian shows a different view, so staff are directed accordingly”.



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Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by the wise one on Apr 25th, 2013 at 11:38am

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In effect, your organisation promotes views that meet the prejudices of your audience so as to maximise profits. This is not promoting free speech – it is abusing it.

And it sure works. Your organisation recently declared a 47% profit increase when the people you make most of your money from, the middle and lower income earners in the United States, are doing it tough with record unemployment levels and housing foreclosures. No wonder the “occupy” movement exists.

Of course, I know the pressure you are personally under. If you don’t keep sending ever increasing profits to New York you could suddenly be sacked – just like former Daily Telegraph Editor, Gary Linnell or Herald-Sun Editor, Simon Pristel.

It may not be so serious if your boss, who has so much influence in Australia, was respected and trusted by most Australians. The opposite is, in fact, the case. Just recently he was voted as one of the least trusted. He was placed number 97 on the Readers Digest “Who Do We Trust 2012” list. Only an errant footballer and a foul-mouthed shock-jock were held in lower esteem by the Australian people. Of course, you made sure there was no mention in the Murdoch media of this as all of your journalists worldwide “self-censored” on this issue. Once again, what about your “freedom of the press” claims?

And now to the subject which I am vitally concerned about and that your journalists have self-censored as it is at odds with your “grow profits at all costs” agenda.

That is the need for major debate and planning by our leaders on how to move to an economic system that does not require perpetual growth in population and the use of resources and energy. You are an educated and intelligent person and would know that our present economic system is not sustainable as the earth’s resources are finite and we are clearly heading for challenging times. Yet I have not once seen in a Murdoch publication an editorial which covers this important issue.

It’s even worse than this. Your organisation actively attempts to suppress coverage on the issue, and many politicians have also told me they are not game to mention that our present system of economic growth is unsustainable knowing they will be ruthlessly attacked by your organisation.

Because you fail to show responsibility in this important issue, I prepared a paid “announcement” (see attached) to run in the Daily Telegraph about my Wilberforce Award and the issue of growth and offered a $5,000 reward to a journalist who could get the issue covered in a Murdoch paper.

Almost predictably, the Daily Telegraph refused to run my paid announcement unless reference to the Murdoch press was deleted, and you supported this decision. This was clearly censorship. Of course it was all kept secret and the Australian public never got to hear of your actions. This is just one example of your suppression of ideas that challenge your corporate agenda. How many other views do you censor in order to meet your profit objectives?

Because of this, I have recently produced a magazine and I am printing 2.4 million copies to be inserted in daily newspapers. The magazine is entitled, “Dick Smith’s Magazine of Forbidden Ideas That You Won’t Read About in the Mainstream Media” – a copy of the front page is attached. The magazine is primarily intended to convey important messages that your journalists fear covering because they challenge your perpetual growth agenda.

As you control 70% of the print media in Australia, it’s obvious that 70% of my magazines will have to go in your newspapers. So will you reject my magazine as you did the original paid announcement? Let’s test your commitment to free speech.

Of course, I would normally write this letter to your boss, Rupert Murdoch, directly. However, in his last letter to me of 1 June 2011, he showed how sensitive he was to any criticism by rejecting further communication. This was because he was offended by my criticism of the Daily Telegraph for its front-page attack of Cate Blanchett when she dared to support the carbon tax. Isn’t it amazing – Rupert Murdoch tells people, “Climate change poses clear catastrophic risks” and claims he made News Limited carbon-neutral and he is treated like a hero by you and your colleagues, whereas Cate Blanchett is attacked so more papers could be sold and more profits made!

I am releasing this letter publicly, though I have been warned it is a high-risk strategy to criticise your organisation and that retribution will be swift. I wonder if you will instruct your reporters to come after me, just as News Limited did to its critics in the United Kingdom? But I think it is time to stand up to your bias and bullying and put your claims of “freedom of speech” to the test.

Yours faithfully
Dick Smith



http://theaimn.com/2013/04/24/murdoch-censorship-gives-the-lie-to-freedom-of-speech-claims/

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:01pm

John S wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 11:37am:
Murdoch Censorship Gives the Lie to “Freedom of Speech” Claims




yet who is the the line of fire...read being sued...with our so called FREEDOM of SPEECH..

as Dick has said we now have digital media...as Rolf has had to find out............and from what I have seen so far.. digital media is exempt from being sued... at least I havent seen one of them court yet...


grow profits at all costs..............really? so says Dick..who I am sure is still reaping profits from woolies even though they charge like a wounded bull..with no conscience.

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John S wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 11:37am:
“The news industry is failing us; owned by self-interested corporate media barons who put profit before principle. Today’s news is more interested in generating sensationalism and controversy than fulfilling its historic mission of educating the public and our democracies are in danger as a result.”



surely he means New Ltd... he seems very biased in his protestations that NO ONE Is LISTENING to DICK..

why did he not take his lament to Fairfax?.. the Canberra Times would have made it headlines..


why would we TRUST a newspaper??? whats he going on about....do we trust the Womans Day?....

I can only presume he is in midlife crisis and is needing attention..

some of us actually put two and two together and come up with 4 we dont need a media baron to tell us....and we certainly dont need GET UP to stir us up against each other.. or bloody Dick Smith for that matter...


can anyone explain why we should TRUST DIck SMith...he who flies around the world making as many emissions as he can...I am wondering how much damage his magazine will have caused?? oh thats right we dont count that do we.



he has money why else would anyone print this??????/////mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

yet he despises Murdoch because he also has money..

guess what Dick I do not buy the D.T very often there was a time I bought it every day without fail.. any idea why I have stopped ?????????.. if you wish to kn ow let me know and I will tell you..


does anyone else think Dick is trying to push his opinion down peoples throats.?...

2.4.million copies of his opinions...what an ego!

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:03pm
usual wank from the usual suspects. Dick Smith is like Malcolm Fraser who also suffers from 'relevance deprivation syndrome". It is amazing how a number of FORMER influential people discover these new trendy belief systems once they are out of office or no longer running a business.

hypocrisy central...

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by skippy. on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:04pm
Dick Smith is the epitome of a great Australian. Instead of war criminals like the lying little rodent, phoney Tony should be looking at the likes of Smith for our next GG.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by adelcrow on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:05pm
Murdoch is as evil as they come..He thinks nothing of conspiring to overthrow democratically elected govts across the world and the sooner someone puts a bullet in him the better off every person living on the face of the earth will be.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Murdoch is as evil as they come..He thinks nothing of conspiring to overthrow democratically elected govts across the world and the sooner someone puts a bullet in him the better off every person living on the face of the earth will be.




I think I know who is the evil one..and it aint rupert.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by adelcrow on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by adelcrow on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:09pm
Murdoch will do anything for power and money including using his media empire to destroy elected governments.
And for that he will rot in hell for all eternity.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by woody2013 on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:11pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Murdoch is as evil as they come..He thinks nothing of conspiring to overthrow democratically elected govts across the world and the sooner someone puts a bullet in him the better off every person living on the face of the earth will be.


;D ;D  DITTO FOR YOU  F/WIT   ;D

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:14pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:09pm:
Murdoch will do anything for power and money including using his media empire to destroy elected governments.
And for that he will rot in hell for all eternity.




and so did GILLARD she sold her soul... then she got into bed with the devil she knifed.. her buddy in the back..ALL IN THE NAME OF POWER..


she will join him in hell...

can you tell me what POWER Murdoch has... I mean what you actually know and not what the likes of Dick Smith spreads around...

we get all this hearsay about MPs being terrified of him??... do you actually know of any????.. I live in ACT and no one ever talks about crap like that...

you should read what printed in the CT about Abbott.... even read the NEWS LTD Daily/Sunday Tele and see what your union mates have to say about Abbott and the Libs...tell us about it..they dont pull any punches thats for sure.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:16pm

skippy. wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:04pm:
Dick Smith is the epitome of a great Australian. Instead of war criminals like the lying little rodent, phoney Tony should be looking at the likes of Smith for our next GG.


my point is that he is just another one who 'discovered' compassion and empathy AFTER leaving office and business. when he COULD have made a difference, he didn't.

same old story.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:17pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.




god you are worse than greenswhine for using despicable events to win a disgraceful point...

have you no respect at all?????


and as for wishing anyone dead what a mess you are.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Robert Paulson on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:44pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.



Maybe...but who knows who his successor will be?

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by adelcrow on Apr 25th, 2013 at 1:54pm

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.




god you are worse than greenswhine for using despicable events to win a disgraceful point...

have you no respect at all?????


and as for wishing anyone dead what a mess you are.


Nope.Just like his own mother I have no respect for Rupert Murdoch

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Morning Mist on Apr 25th, 2013 at 1:57pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.



Lol. Yeah, I can't stand those Waffen-SS guards down at the newsagent forcing us to pick up a copy of The Australian at gunpoint.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by woody2013 on Apr 25th, 2013 at 1:58pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 1:54pm:

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.




god you are worse than greenswhine for using despicable events to win a disgraceful point...

have you no respect at all?????


and as for wishing anyone dead what a mess you are.


Nope.Just like his own mother I have no respect for Rupert Murdoch


;)  Do think he give a shyte trool   ;)

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Dnarever on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:46pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:09pm:
Murdoch will do anything for power and money including using his media empire to destroy elected governments.
And for that he will rot in hell for all eternity.


They admitted in 75 /76 that over throwing the Whitlam government had been their official policy. Printing anything adverse to the government and anything in support of the opposition was their deliberate strategy.

They have been doing the same thing the last 4 years. They are a disgrace.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by John Smith on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:52pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Murdoch is as evil as they come..He thinks nothing of conspiring to overthrow democratically elected govts across the world and the sooner someone puts a bullet in him the better off every person living on the face of the earth will be.


not as evil as cods is .

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:46pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:09pm:
Murdoch will do anything for power and money including using his media empire to destroy elected governments.
And for that he will rot in hell for all eternity.


They admitted in 75 /76 that over throwing the Whitlam government had been their official policy. Printing anything adverse to the government and anything in support of the opposition was their deliberate strategy.

They have been doing the same thing the last 4 years. They are a disgrace.


but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.

Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by John Smith on Apr 25th, 2013 at 3:10pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


so you admit they have an agenda to get rid of the labor government?

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:35pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:52pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Murdoch is as evil as they come..He thinks nothing of conspiring to overthrow democratically elected govts across the world and the sooner someone puts a bullet in him the better off every person living on the face of the earth will be.


not as evil as cods is .




you do have a nasty mind would you care to explain that remark....be brave.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:37pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 1:54pm:

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.




god you are worse than greenswhine for using despicable events to win a disgraceful point...

have you no respect at all?????


and as for wishing anyone dead what a mess you are.


Nope.Just like his own mother I have no respect for Rupert Murdoch




we know you are one sicko dude why do you keep proving it?

I have lost count of the times you have wished someone dead..you are so HATE filled.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by John Smith on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:43pm

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:52pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Murdoch is as evil as they come..He thinks nothing of conspiring to overthrow democratically elected govts across the world and the sooner someone puts a bullet in him the better off every person living on the face of the earth will be.


not as evil as cods is .




you do have a nasty mind would you care to explain that remark....be brave.


sure, although I thought it was self explanatory ... as evil as Murdoch is, he pales in comparison to you.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:49pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:52pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Murdoch is as evil as they come..He thinks nothing of conspiring to overthrow democratically elected govts across the world and the sooner someone puts a bullet in him the better off every person living on the face of the earth will be.


not as evil as cods is .




you do have a nasty mind would you care to explain that remark....be brave.


sure, although I thought it was self explanatory ... as evil as Murdoch is, he pales in comparison to you.




says you... I wont say what I think about you I am too polite.. please answer the question.. if you do not have one then I shall have to report your lying abuse wont I.


as I dont have a zillion readers or the power to change the way  people vote


.[size=18]..just what are you referring too???[/size]

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by John Smith on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:55pm

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:52pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Murdoch is as evil as they come..He thinks nothing of conspiring to overthrow democratically elected govts across the world and the sooner someone puts a bullet in him the better off every person living on the face of the earth will be.


not as evil as cods is .




you do have a nasty mind would you care to explain that remark....be brave.


sure, although I thought it was self explanatory ... as evil as Murdoch is, he pales in comparison to you.




says you... I wont say what I think about you I am too polite.. please answer the question.. if you do not have one then I shall have to report your lying abuse wont I.


as I dont have a zillion readers or the power to change the way  people vote


.[size=18]..just what are you referring too???[/size]


to polite? thats never stopped you in the past, why start pretending now?
whilst you're reporting me, you may as well report yourself as well .... or is it somehow different when you call Adel evil?

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2013 at 5:08pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:55pm:

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:52pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Murdoch is as evil as they come..He thinks nothing of conspiring to overthrow democratically elected govts across the world and the sooner someone puts a bullet in him the better off every person living on the face of the earth will be.


not as evil as cods is .




you do have a nasty mind would you care to explain that remark....be brave.


sure, although I thought it was self explanatory ... as evil as Murdoch is, he pales in comparison to you.




says you... I wont say what I think about you I am too polite.. please answer the question.. if you do not have one then I shall have to report your lying abuse wont I.


as I dont have a zillion readers or the power to change the way  people vote


.[size=18]..just what are you referring too???[/size]


to polite? thats never stopped you in the past, why start pretending now?
whilst you're reporting me, you may as well report yourself as well .... or is it somehow different when you call Adel evil?





i will leave that for you to do when you answer the bloody question....



YOU SEEM TO BE HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH BACKING UP YOUR STATEMENT.....


I WAS TELLING ADEL HE WAS EVIL FOR WHAT HE SAID...


TELL ME WHAT IS EVIL ABOUT POINTING OUT WHAT HE SAID WAS EVIL........

I AT LEAST HAD SOMETHING TO BACK UP WHAT i SAID,.....

NOW LETS SEE YOU DO IT..

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by John Smith on Apr 25th, 2013 at 5:13pm

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 5:08pm:
YOU SEEM TO BE HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH BACKING UP YOUR STATEMENT.....



no, you just have difficulty reading whats in front of you


cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
I think I know who is the evil one..and it aint rupert


Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by adelcrow on Apr 25th, 2013 at 5:38pm
Its quite simple.
Murdoch could die in the gutter and the only people who would mourn him are his paid political assassins and the pathetic far right pollies who rely on him for their cushy jobs..

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by John Smith on Apr 25th, 2013 at 5:41pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 5:38pm:
Its quite simple.
Murdoch could die in the gutter and the only people who would mourn him are his paid political assassins and the pathetic far right pollies who rely on him for their cushy jobs..


everyone dies ... I'm not sure why Cods got her knickers in a knot, it's not like you wished him dead.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by adelcrow on Apr 25th, 2013 at 5:43pm
The NRA and the arms manufacturers that bankroll the organisation rely on Murdochs right wing media empire to destroy any opposition so they can sell guns that kill 30,000 American a year.
Murdoch is lower than scum.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 25th, 2013 at 6:14pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


so you admit they have an agenda to get rid of the labor government?


now if I used your level of English comprehension I would I would conclude from this post of yours that Gillard is a terrorist.

you really need to work on your logic and language skills.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2013 at 6:47pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 5:43pm:
The NRA and the arms manufacturers that bankroll the organisation rely on Murdochs right wing media empire to destroy any opposition so they can sell guns that kill 30,000 American a year.
Murdoch is lower than scum.




if that were true... wouldnt Murdoch be on the top of the list for someone to assassinate him.. probably with one of the guns.. you claim he supports....

I dont think the Americans are quite as paranoid as yourself..


Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Grey on Apr 25th, 2013 at 7:55pm

Quote:
everyone dies ...


NOOooooooooo    :'(

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by John Smith on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:17pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


so you admit they have an agenda to get rid of the labor government?


now if I used your level of English comprehension I would I would conclude from this post of yours that Gillard is a terrorist.

you really need to work on your logic and language skills.


ohh, longstupidone would rather go on another rant than admit what he says .... although I'd love to see how you link my comment to 'Gillard is a terrorist' ... I suppose it depends on how drunk you are at the time of reading ....

I want to see if it will make the dumbest quotes thread ....

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by John Smith on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:17pm

Grey wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 7:55pm:

Quote:
everyone dies ...


NOOooooooooo    :'(


So I've been told ... but I don't know everyone so I cannot confirm it.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Dnarever on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:44pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

Grey wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 7:55pm:

Quote:
everyone dies ...


NOOooooooooo   


So I've been told ... but I don't know everyone so I cannot confirm it.



“I intend to live forever, or die trying.”

(Groucho said something like that).

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Dnarever on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.
Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


I didn't like that either but for that one they had loyally supported Howard for 11 years and were dragged kicking and screaming to that position by public opinion. It was not their prefered option it was just that they had been supporting him for so long that the public woke up.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Armchair_Politician on Apr 25th, 2013 at 10:43pm

skippy. wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:04pm:
Dick Smith is the epitome of a great Australian. Instead of war criminals like the lying little rodent, phoney Tony should be looking at the likes of Smith for our next GG.


He is a fantastic aviator and pioneer and he did great work while head of CASA, but he should stick to what he knows he's talking about. This letter just makes him look stupid and ill-informed, much like Labor...

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Armchair_Politician on Apr 25th, 2013 at 10:45pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.
Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


I didn't like that either but for that one they had loyally supported Howard for 11 years and were dragged kicking and screaming to that position by public opinion. It was not their prefered option it was just that they had been supporting him for so long that the public woke up.


It took a very long time for the media to end its love-affair with Rudd and realise what a monumental cock-up he was. Ever since then, the media's been much more careful in how it reports on this Labor government and rightly so. It might seem to some as though Labor is being hounded to a political grave by the media, but that's only because Labor provides almost all of the fodder...

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Deathridesahorse on Apr 26th, 2013 at 12:54am

woody2014 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:11pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Murdoch is as evil as they come..He thinks nothing of conspiring to overthrow democratically elected govts across the world and the sooner someone puts a bullet in him the better off every person living on the face of the earth will be.


;D ;D  DITTO FOR YOU  F/WIT   ;D

woody can't defend murdoch:  :D

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Deathridesahorse on Apr 26th, 2013 at 12:56am

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.




god you are worse than greenswhine for using despicable events to win a disgraceful point...

have you no respect at all?????


and as for wishing anyone dead what a mess you are.

That's what Murdoch does and you can't say different!!  ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Deathridesahorse on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:02am

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.
Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


I didn't like that either but for that one they had loyally supported Howard for 11 years and were dragged kicking and screaming to that position by public opinion. It was not their prefered option it was just that they had been supporting him for so long that the public woke up.

Credibility!

:D :D

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Deathridesahorse on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:03am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 10:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.
Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


I didn't like that either but for that one they had loyally supported Howard for 11 years and were dragged kicking and screaming to that position by public opinion. It was not their prefered option it was just that they had been supporting him for so long that the public woke up.


It took a very long time for the media to end its love-affair with Rudd and realise what a monumental cock-up he was. Ever since then, the media's been much more careful in how it reports on this Labor government and rightly so. It might seem to some as though Labor is being hounded to a political grave by the media, but that's only because Labor provides almost all of the fodder...

FTTN will be Abbotts political grave: it has been written!

UPLOAD SPEED IS THE NUMBER ONE ELECTION ISSUE IN A CLEVER COUNTRY BUILDING CHINA IN THE ASIAN CENTURY!

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Deathridesahorse on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:06am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 10:43pm:

skippy. wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:04pm:
Dick Smith is the epitome of a great Australian. Instead of war criminals like the lying little rodent, phoney Tony should be looking at the likes of Smith for our next GG.


He is a fantastic aviator and pioneer and he did great work while head of CASA, but he should stick to what he knows he's talking about. This letter just makes him look stupid and ill-informed, much like Labor...

ARMCHAIR HATES THE KIDS BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS SPENDING BILLIONS ON FTTN!

I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT BACK EITHER, PSYCHE!!!!  :o :o

ARMCHAIR HATES THE KIDS BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS SPENDING BILLIONS ON FTTN!

I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT BACK EITHER, PSYCHE!!!!  :o :o


ARMCHAIR HATES THE KIDS BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS SPENDING BILLIONS ON FTTN!

I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT BACK EITHER, PSYCHE!!!!  :o :o

ARMCHAIR HATES THE KIDS BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS SPENDING BILLIONS ON FTTN!

I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT BACK EITHER, PSYCHE!!!!  :o :o


ARMCHAIR HATES THE KIDS BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS SPENDING BILLIONS ON FTTN!

I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT BACK EITHER, PSYCHE!!!!  :o :o

ARMCHAIR HATES THE KIDS BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS SPENDING BILLIONS ON FTTN!

I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT BACK EITHER, PSYCHE!!!!  :o :o


ARMCHAIR HATES THE KIDS BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS SPENDING BILLIONS ON FTTN!

I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT BACK EITHER, PSYCHE!!!!  :o :o

ARMCHAIR HATES THE KIDS BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS SPENDING BILLIONS ON FTTN!

I WILL NEVER TAKE THAT BACK EITHER, PSYCHE!!!!  :o :o

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by salad in on Apr 26th, 2013 at 8:47am

John S wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 11:37am:
“Let’s see if it works” said Dick Smith.

[...]


Wasn't Dick Smith the guy that made his fortune from selling imported electical components, components that were assemble in Nike-style sweatshops? Now he wants to lecture about STANDARDS.

Hand me a drink please.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 26th, 2013 at 11:07am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 10:45pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.
Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


I didn't like that either but for that one they had loyally supported Howard for 11 years and were dragged kicking and screaming to that position by public opinion. It was not their prefered option it was just that they had been supporting him for so long that the public woke up.


It took a very long time for the media to end its love-affair with Rudd and realise what a monumental cock-up he was. Ever since then, the media's been much more careful in how it reports on this Labor government and rightly so. It might seem to some as though Labor is being hounded to a political grave by the media, but that's only because Labor provides almost all of the fodder...





I remember the headlines in the Murdoch empire... Mr 76% RUDD....


dont recall any lefty complaining about that! was it also a lie do you think? after all when these polls come in we only have their word for it dont we...and if its in the murdoch rags it must be a lie.

I seem to remember our lefty chums gloating over that record.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 26th, 2013 at 11:09am

salad in wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 8:47am:

John S wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 11:37am:
“Let’s see if it works” said Dick Smith.

[...]


Wasn't Dick Smith the guy that made his fortune from selling imported electical components, components that were assemble in Nike-style sweatshops? Now he wants to lecture about STANDARDS.

Hand me a drink please.



yep and hes printing and distributing 2.4. million magazines and producing no CARBON. all to do with pushing his opinion......a real wonderman. :-[ :-[

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Grey on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:16pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 12:56am:

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.

god you are worse than greenswhine for using despicable events to win a disgraceful point...

have you no respect at all?????


and as for wishing anyone dead what a mess you are.

That's what Murdoch does and you can't say different!!  ;) ;) ;)


Centreing attention on Murdoch as the epitomy of evil misses the point. Rupert Murdoch is a victim of his own success. As we well know, 'all power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely'. The problem is not Rupert Murdoch. The problem is that our government/s allow one individual to reach such a position. I have no doubt that if DRAH, (or I for that matter) found themselves in that position they would be just as corrupt.

Spare a thought for young Rupert; I'd bet he was happier then.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2004/jan/02/rupertmurdoch.australia

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:16pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


so you admit they have an agenda to get rid of the labor government?


now if I used your level of English comprehension I would I would conclude from this post of yours that Gillard is a terrorist.

you really need to work on your logic and language skills.


ohh, longstupidone would rather go on another rant than admit what he says .... although I'd love to see how you link my comment to 'Gillard is a terrorist' ... I suppose it depends on how drunk you are at the time of reading ....

I want to see if it will make the dumbest quotes thread ....



it's true... you really cant win an argument with a fool.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by cods on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:48pm

Grey wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 12:56am:

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.

god you are worse than greenswhine for using despicable events to win a disgraceful point...

have you no respect at all?????


and as for wishing anyone dead what a mess you are.

That's what Murdoch does and you can't say different!!  ;) ;) ;)


Centreing attention on Murdoch as the epitomy of evil misses the point. Rupert Murdoch is a victim of his own success. As we well know, 'all power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely'. The problem is not Rupert Murdoch. The problem is that our government/s allow one individual to reach such a position. I have no doubt that if DRAH, (or I for that matter) found themselves in that position they would be just as corrupt.

Spare a thought for young Rupert; I'd bet he was happier then.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2004/jan/02/rupertmurdoch.australia





what do you do????? remember packer and NINE ..Bond goes to jail so he is forced to buy back channel NINE....he was the only one with that type of money..

when you think of the money Bond has got away with over the years and still is from what I can make out....its the lenders that need looking at

if we want govt to control who owns what in this country. then it may as well be control over everything...look at what Happened in NSW mining??? [ICAC]all because of one man.in govt one man  with POWER...and he didnt own a newspaper.

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by the wise one on Apr 26th, 2013 at 4:03pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


so you admit they have an agenda to get rid of the labor government?


now if I used your level of English comprehension I would I would conclude from this post of yours that Gillard is a terrorist.

you really need to work on your logic and language skills.


ohh, longstupidone would rather go on another rant than admit what he says .... although I'd love to see how you link my comment to 'Gillard is a terrorist' ... I suppose it depends on how drunk you are at the time of reading ....

I want to see if it will make the dumbest quotes thread ....



it's true... you really cant win an argument with a fool.



That is why no one argues with you longtimelier

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by Deathridesahorse on Apr 26th, 2013 at 4:40pm

cods wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:48pm:

Grey wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 12:56am:

cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Like Adolf and Pol Pot...the world will be a better place after Murdoch has died.

god you are worse than greenswhine for using despicable events to win a disgraceful point...

have you no respect at all?????


and as for wishing anyone dead what a mess you are.

That's what Murdoch does and you can't say different!!  ;) ;) ;)


Centreing attention on Murdoch as the epitomy of evil misses the point. Rupert Murdoch is a victim of his own success. As we well know, 'all power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely'. The problem is not Rupert Murdoch. The problem is that our government/s allow one individual to reach such a position. I have no doubt that if DRAH, (or I for that matter) found themselves in that position they would be just as corrupt.

Spare a thought for young Rupert; I'd bet he was happier then.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2004/jan/02/rupertmurdoch.australia





what do you do????? remember packer and NINE ..Bond goes to jail so he is forced to buy back channel NINE....he was the only one with that type of money..

when you think of the money Bond has got away with over the years and still is from what I can make out....its the lenders that need looking at
if we want govt to control who owns what in this country. then it may as well be control over everything...look at what Happened in NSW mining??? [ICAC]all because of one man.in govt one man  with POWER...and he didnt own a newspaper.

===>> cOULD THIS BE THE ONE GOOD POINT CODS HAD MADE EVER IN THE HISTORY OF EVER??!!
  :( :(  ::)

Title: Re: A letter from Dick Smith
Post by John Smith on Apr 27th, 2013 at 12:18am

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
but not so in 2007 when they supported the removal of Howard.Your hypocrisy is predictable and never-ending.


so you admit they have an agenda to get rid of the labor government?


now if I used your level of English comprehension I would I would conclude from this post of yours that Gillard is a terrorist.

you really need to work on your logic and language skills.


ohh, longstupidone would rather go on another rant than admit what he says .... although I'd love to see how you link my comment to 'Gillard is a terrorist' ... I suppose it depends on how drunk you are at the time of reading ....

I want to see if it will make the dumbest quotes thread ....



it's true... you really cant win an argument with a fool.


still waiting to see how you link my comment with Gillard is a terrorist longstupidone? don't run away now .... be a man instead of running away like an old woman ... take viagra if you have too, it doesn't matter as long as you stand by what you say.

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