OK, can anybody explain to me how he did some of those things on last night's show:
1. The horizontal handstand (I think he's done that one before). Was that whole crowd on the street complicit in some subterfuge with wires?
2. The one with the water poured into the cups but never being there, and then the water level rising in the bottle when he shook it.
3. The levitation infront of the statue of Christ above Rio. Again, is that whole crowd a set up? Did none of them see anything shonky?

C'mon I'm desperate here.
And also 4. how was the coconut thing done without conspiracy?

your not ment to know bogy thats the point... he is very good though its frustrating as he sits so close to people.like the burnt card burnt cards smell and taste [if you happen to breath in]disgusting..

if I ever figure one out I will be sure and let you know..????

Street magic is as fake as you can get. All magic is fake in a sense, but the whole point of it is to trick the crowd by making things that seem impossible happen right in front of them. That's the art of it. Street magic is mostly stooges, camera cuts, and even post filmed computer effects. It is no more "magic" than Darth Vader elevating someone. Anything is possible when it is just an edited video. 

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Quantum wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Street magic is as fake as you can get. All magic is fake in a sense, but the whole point of it is to trick the crowd by making things that seem impossible happen right in front of them. That's the art of it. Street magic is mostly stooges, camera cuts, and even post filmed computer effects. It is no more "magic" than Darth Vader elevating someone. Anything is possible when it is just an edited video.

did you see him walk on the Thames??...I guess you are right to a certain extent there is no way of knowing how set up some of this is.. but what about the phone in a drink bottle.. and could he get that reaction out of kids???


I mean I know you are right....buttttttttt

bogarde73 wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 9:52am:

OK, can anybody explain to me how he did some of those things on last night's show: 1. The horizontal handstand (I think he's done that one before). Was that whole crowd on the street complicit in some subterfuge with wires? 2. The one with the water poured into the cups but never being there, and then the water level rising in the bottle when he shook it. 3. The levitation infront of the statue of Christ above Rio. Again, is that whole crowd a set up? Did none of them see anything shonky?

The horizontal handstand probably had a similar contraption to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIJcjwhPj8o

cods wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 6:28pm:

Quantum wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 4:42pm: Street magic is as fake as you can get. All magic is fake in a sense, but the whole point of it is to trick the crowd by making things that seem impossible happen right in front of them. That's the art of it. Street magic is mostly stooges, camera cuts, and even post filmed computer effects. It is no more "magic" than Darth Vader elevating someone. Anything is possible when it is just an edited video.  did you see him walk on the Thames??...I guess you are right to a certain extent there is no way of knowing how set up some of this is.. but what about the phone in a drink bottle.. and could he get that reaction out of kids??? I mean I know you are right....buttttttttt

he had set up a perspex walkway just below the surface of the water the night before ... the boats crossing in front and behind were set up by him and the pilots knew exactly where they could and couldn't cross without hitting the perspex.

OK I know it's trickery but HOW does he fool all the people gathered around who could see wires or other contraptions?
And can anybody explain the specific tricks I referred to.

John Smith wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 7:04pm:

cods wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 6:28pm: Quantum wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 4:42pm: Street magic is as fake as you can get. All magic is fake in a sense, but the whole point of it is to trick the crowd by making things that seem impossible happen right in front of them. That's the art of it. Street magic is mostly stooges, camera cuts, and even post filmed computer effects. It is no more "magic" than Darth Vader elevating someone. Anything is possible when it is just an edited video.  did you see him walk on the Thames??...I guess you are right to a certain extent there is no way of knowing how set up some of this is.. but what about the phone in a drink bottle.. and could he get that reaction out of kids??? I mean I know you are right....buttttttttt he had set up a perspex walkway just below the surface of the water the night before ... the boats crossing in front and behind were set up by him and the pilots knew exactly where they could and couldn't cross without hitting the perspex.

well I can see that being the case but how do we know it was.. I mean if he did that too many people would have to know about it and word gets around......I would think..

I mean the Thames in the middle of the Jubilee?? he would have to have all sorts of permission..

cods wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 2:32pm:

John Smith wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 7:04pm: cods wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 6:28pm: Quantum wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 4:42pm: Street magic is as fake as you can get. All magic is fake in a sense, but the whole point of it is to trick the crowd by making things that seem impossible happen right in front of them. That's the art of it. Street magic is mostly stooges, camera cuts, and even post filmed computer effects. It is no more "magic" than Darth Vader elevating someone. Anything is possible when it is just an edited video.  did you see him walk on the Thames??...I guess you are right to a certain extent there is no way of knowing how set up some of this is.. but what about the phone in a drink bottle.. and could he get that reaction out of kids??? I mean I know you are right....buttttttttt he had set up a perspex walkway just below the surface of the water the night before ... the boats crossing in front and behind were set up by him and the pilots knew exactly where they could and couldn't cross without hitting the perspex. well I can see that being the case but how do we know it was.. I mean if he did that too many people would have to know about it and word gets around......I would think..

Yes, lots of people would know.

However, as long as he doesn't film those people saying what they saw (or he edits them out of the footage), the illusion is still successful.

There are always many people who see these illusions being planned and set up, however, the trick is to simply exclude those people from the final cut of the TV show.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 2:42pm:

cods wrote on May 15th, 2013 at 2:32pm: John Smith wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 7:04pm: cods wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 6:28pm: Quantum wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 4:42pm: Street magic is as fake as you can get. All magic is fake in a sense, but the whole point of it is to trick the crowd by making things that seem impossible happen right in front of them. That's the art of it. Street magic is mostly stooges, camera cuts, and even post filmed computer effects. It is no more "magic" than Darth Vader elevating someone. Anything is possible when it is just an edited video.  did you see him walk on the Thames??...I guess you are right to a certain extent there is no way of knowing how set up some of this is.. but what about the phone in a drink bottle.. and could he get that reaction out of kids??? I mean I know you are right....buttttttttt he had set up a perspex walkway just below the surface of the water the night before ... the boats crossing in front and behind were set up by him and the pilots knew exactly where they could and couldn't cross without hitting the perspex. well I can see that being the case but how do we know it was.. I mean if he did that too many people would have to know about it and word gets around......I would think.. Yes, lots of people would know. However, as long as he doesn't film those people saying what they saw (or he edits them out of the footage), the illusion is still successful. There are always many people who see these illusions being planned and set up, however, the trick is to simply exclude those people from the final cut of the TV show.

thaTs not quite what I had in mind....I wouldnt expect it to be shown on the show.. but just by word of mouth wouldnt it eventually become known how it was done?     especially in this day and age with facebook utube,,and the like it wouldnt be hard for word to get out,.

cods wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 2:52pm:

thaTs not quite what I had in mind....I wouldnt expect it to be shown on the show.. but just by word of mouth wouldnt it eventually become known how it was done?     especially in this day and age with facebook utube,,and the like it wouldnt be hard for word to get out,.

People involved in the illusions are often (if not always) asked to sign confidentiality agreements.

I signed one myself many years ago.

No, that's too far fetched for me. Did you see the show from Rio? Different crowds everywhere and most of them don't speak English. The expressions on their faces are too real to believe they know about how it's done.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

cods wrote on May 15th, 2013 at 2:52pm: thaTs not quite what I had in mind....I wouldnt expect it to be shown on the show.. but just by word of mouth wouldnt it eventually become known how it was done?     especially in this day and age with facebook utube,,and the like it wouldnt be hard for word to get out,. People involved in the illusions are often (if not always) asked to sign confidentiality agreements. I signed one myself many years ago.

I'm sure it'd be safe to spill the beans now, Mr. Peccary!

cods wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 2:32pm:

John Smith wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 7:04pm: cods wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 6:28pm: Quantum wrote on May 14th, 2013 at 4:42pm: Street magic is as fake as you can get. All magic is fake in a sense, but the whole point of it is to trick the crowd by making things that seem impossible happen right in front of them. That's the art of it. Street magic is mostly stooges, camera cuts, and even post filmed computer effects. It is no more "magic" than Darth Vader elevating someone. Anything is possible when it is just an edited video.  did you see him walk on the Thames??...I guess you are right to a certain extent there is no way of knowing how set up some of this is.. but what about the phone in a drink bottle.. and could he get that reaction out of kids??? I mean I know you are right....buttttttttt he had set up a perspex walkway just below the surface of the water the night before ... the boats crossing in front and behind were set up by him and the pilots knew exactly where they could and couldn't cross without hitting the perspex. well I can see that being the case but how do we know it was.. I mean if he did that too many people would have to know about it and word gets around......I would think.. I mean the Thames in the middle of the Jubilee?? he would have to have all sorts of permission..

sure, the same sort of permission they need when they shoot an add or a movie scene ... not that difficult to get .. Google it, Í had read about it previously, it's all out there

bogarde73 wrote on May 15^th, 2013 at 3:29pm:

No, that's too far fetched for me. Did you see the show from Rio? Different crowds everywhere and most of them don't speak English. The expressions on their faces are too real to believe they know about how it's done.

I'm not saying that everyone in the crowd is asked to sign confidentiality agreements.

The ones who engineer the illusions are asked to keep it secret though.

It's all done with careful planning, a few stooges here and there, and lots and lots of practice.

They're just carefully orchestrated illusions: this sort of thing has been going on for hundreds of years.

http://www.thegreatharryhoudini.com/vanishingelephant.html