Rupert reveals his hand

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If there was any doubt that Rupert Murdoch is the power player behind Abbott’s thrust at The Lodge then his tweet today should remove that doubt.


Quote:

Rupert Murdoch ‏@rupertmurdoch 19 May Oz polls show nothing can save this miserable govt. Election can not come soon enough.  People decided and tuned out months ago. More stuff from Murdoch https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch?tw_i=336243564654768129&tw_p=tweetembed

Quote:

You might be asking the same question as me: Why the hell is he interested in Australia? The answer is simple: he wants to make money out of us. And who can provide that? Tony Abbott. And how can he provide that? By ripping up the NBN. The ‘conspiracy theory’ the left have been running with since this article was posted on Independent Australia no longer looks like a conspiracy. It looks like a plan to me. I’d urge you to visit the article and read the article it is linked to. It all gels now that Rupert has revealed his hand.

http://theaimn.com/2013/05/20/rupert-reveals-his-hand/

and sooooooo sayeth the Independent...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

their voice of course isnt as loud as Murdochs is it??????or is it?

Why would Murdoch want to rip up the NBN?

Anyway, the Libs won't rip up the NBN. They just won't connect it to households - good economics, innit. Thrifty.

Karnal wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 1:16pm:

Why would Murdoch want to rip up the NBN? Anyway, the Libs won't rip up the NBN. They just won't connect it to households - good economics, innit. Thrifty.

HO HUM,  The Murdoch press is on the other side this time    ;)

Karnal wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 1:16pm:

Why would Murdoch want to rip up the NBN

why would anyone pay for payTV when they can stream of the internet for free?

Abbott a puppet of vested interests ?

No kidding.

Congo-liners, the sooner you realise big business does not give a stuff about you, it only cares about your wallet, the better off you will be.

Karnal wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 1:16pm:

Why would Murdoch want to rip up the NBN? Anyway, the Libs won't rip up the NBN. They just won't connect it to households - good economics, innit. Thrifty.

personally I think the exact opposite.... this THING has to be paid for they have over 1000 employees to feed just for starters.. I think they will make it compulsory for every labor and greens voter to join up..thats just for starters...if they dont connect you and i are still paying for it..even though swanny somehow circumvented it appearing to be taxpayer funded... we all know different dont we?..


can we assume we are borrowing money to pay for this thing?

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 1:29pm:

Abbott a puppet of vested interests ? No kidding. Congo-liners, the sooner you realise big business does not give a stuff about you, it only cares about your wallet, the better off you will be.

you are right I agreee... I spit chips every time I shop in woollies...I swear its the last time.. but somehow they know me better....pizzzzzed off dead right..however what that has to do with Abbott I havent a clue...


or are you saying that gillard being a puppet of the unions is the reason we have to queue and queue or else serve our bloody selves whilst still paying the same prices?????.....like the fools we are.

cods wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 12:59pm:

and sooooooo sayeth the Independent... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz their voice of course isnt as loud as Murdochs is it??????or is it?

Its actually quite credible given Murdoch realizes the way to save his business is via iPads and mobility.  He's just a dumbass who doesnt realize that fibre wont stop the growth of mobile devices.  Because with age he has become epically delusional.

I can see why the trendy left hate Rupert so much. He's rich, powerful, successful, male, and white. That ticks all the angry boxes.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:30pm:

I can see why the trendy left hate Rupert so much. He's rich, powerful, successful, male, and white. That ticks all the angry boxes.

I like Forrest, gates and buffett.

I don't like murdoch because he is a greedy power hungry delusional maniac who uses propaganda to get his way.

Nothing to do with him being white, and the bigger bigot is yOU as I'm sure if he wa black you'd be the first to whine like a laughing hyena.  And I'd still call him a greedy power hungry delusional maniac.

Yes, we all know what Mistie thinks of the blacks.

Too rich and powerful, innit. How dare they.

I blame the trendy left.

Karnal wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:55pm:

Yes, we all know what Mistie thinks of the blacks. Too rich and powerful, innit. How dare they. I blame the trendy left.

Yes it's all the trendies faults for teaching history in university.  Those bastards.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:30pm:

I can see why the trendy left hate Rupert so much. He's rich, powerful, successful, male, and white. That ticks all the angry boxes.

I dislike Murdoch because he has never been elected to any political office, yet uses his wealth and power to make or break governments.

It has nothing to do with his cash, but the way he uses it. I don't consider him successful, like most men driven by power and money his personal life is a dung heap.

I care nothing for his sex or colour.

All boxes unticked, I think.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:49pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 8:30pm: I can see why the trendy left hate Rupert so much. He's rich, powerful, successful, male, and white. That ticks all the angry boxes. I like Forrest, gates and buffett. I don't like murdoch because he is a greedy power hungry delusional maniac who uses propaganda to get his way. Nothing to do with him being white, and the bigger bigot is yOU as I'm sure if he wa black you'd be the first to whine like a laughing hyena.  And I'd still call him a greedy power hungry delusional maniac.

Hilarious. You managed to squeeze in the term bigot even when I made no claim or assertion of my own.

Peter Freedman wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:58pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 8:30pm: I can see why the trendy left hate Rupert so much. He's rich, powerful, successful, male, and white. That ticks all the angry boxes. I dislike Murdoch because he has never been elected to any political office, yet uses his wealth and power to make or break governments. It has nothing to do with his cash, but the way he uses it. I don't consider him successful, like most men driven by power and money his personal life is a dung heap. I care nothing for his sex or colour. All boxes unticked, I think.

People buy his newspapers of their own volition. He doesn't force people to read them. Anyone with an internet connection has access to a plethora of alternative media.

Peter Freedman wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 8:58pm:

I dislike Murdoch because he has never been elected to any political office, yet uses his wealth and power to make or break governments.

You dislike Murdoch because he has power.  That's cool, just don't go thinking the moral facade you try to shroud it in is fooling anyone.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:20pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 8:49pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 8:30pm: I can see why the trendy left hate Rupert so much. He's rich, powerful, successful, male, and white. That ticks all the angry boxes. I like Forrest, gates and buffett. I don't like murdoch because he is a greedy power hungry delusional maniac who uses propaganda to get his way. Nothing to do with him being white, and the bigger bigot is yOU as I'm sure if he wa black you'd be the first to whine like a laughing hyena.  And I'd still call him a greedy power hungry delusional maniac. Hilarious. You managed to squeeze in the term bigot even when I made no claim or assertion of my own.

want to try that again? :D  You work at uni, and you don't even get that one? WOW.

No, I didn't get it. Perhaps you need to communicate your points clearer.

The best politician around is a black man.

Jimmy McMillan for those not familiar with some things we get in the United States.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:39pm:

No, I didn't get it. Perhaps you need to communicate your points clearer.

I don't like to nurse people who by all standards should have the capabilities afforded to them by our education system and society.  Less watching prime time TV and more schooling next time, and perhaps you'll get better comprehension skills. :)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:41pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 9:39pm: No, I didn't get it. Perhaps you need to communicate your points clearer. I don't like to nurse people who by all standards should have the capabilities afforded to them by our education system and society.  Less watching prime time TV and more schooling next time, and perhaps you'll get better comprehension skills. :)

You haven't connected your label of bigot to my original statement in any logical way.

The black man thing is a strawman.

Try again.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:52pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 9:41pm: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 9:39pm: No, I didn't get it. Perhaps you need to communicate your points clearer. I don't like to nurse people who by all standards should have the capabilities afforded to them by our education system and society.  Less watching prime time TV and more schooling next time, and perhaps you'll get better comprehension skills. :) You haven't connected your label of bigot to my original statement in any logical way. The black man thing is a strawman. Try again.

Once again, I won't be nursing you. It's clearly all there. Now work it out on your own.

I'll give you a hint: it's all in the definition, and then inference from the definition :)

I accept your defeat; run along, trendy.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:54pm:

I accept your defeat; run along, trendy.

have a nice night :)  try look up the definition if you get some time :)  That's enough of a clue for you.

An argument involves a proposition, or a series of propositions, that are then attempted to be validated by a line of reasoning or evidence. Unfortunately, your claim of bigot had no justification. Moreover, there was no display of intolerance by myself in the statement under consideration. Therefore, any claim to bigotry was a either a strawman or a Red Herring.

Run along now.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 10:00pm:

An argument involves a proposition, or a series of propositions, that are then attempted to be validated by a line of reasoning or evidence. Unfortunately, your claim of bigot had no justification. Moreover, there was no display of intolerance by myself in the statement under consideration. Therefore, any claim to bigotry was a either a strawman or a Red Herring. Run along now.

nice attempt, and yet clearly wrong.  :( 

the hint to look at the definition remains :)  How many strikes would you like?

A counter-argument includes drawing out the claims and assertions made by your interlocutor and then pointing out potential flaws in those claims and assertions.

You don't seem to be very good at this.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 10:32pm:

A counter-argument includes drawing out the claims and assertions made by your interlocutor and then pointing out potential flaws in those claims and assertions. You don't seem to be very good at this.

strike two.

One more, Misty :) Come on - reflect on your school days and work out what I mean by "it's in the definition." :) It really isn't that difficult :)

When making claims, or counter-claims, they need to be as clear and precise as possible. The onus is on the writer, and not the reader, to communicate their thoughts in the clearest possible manner. If the reader has issues with fathoming your content, then more often than not, it is the writer's fault, and not the reader's. (In academia, there is a 100% onus on the writer to communicate their ideas effectively, but given that you obviously dropped out of school when you were about 15 or 16, I'll allow you some leeway here).

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 10:46pm:

When making claims, or counter-claims, they need to be as clear and precise as possible. The onus is on the writer, and not the reader, to communicate their thoughts in the clearest possible manner. If the reader has issues with fathoming your content, then more often than not, it is the writer's fault, and not the reader's. (In academia, there is a 100% onus on the writer to communicate their ideas effectively, but given that you obviously dropped out of school when you were about 15 or 16, I'll allow you some leeway here).

Did you read that from one of the assessment sheets you found on the floor while mopping? Good on you!! :)

You will also know that when forming a debate, the level of explanation depends on the audience. I'm sorry I over assessed your comprehension skills.  Next time I'll review songs from Sesame Street and try to put my comments into a similar style, for your easy reading :)

And that's strike 3. Have a nice night :)

This has been a comforting exchange. It has reaffirmed my belief that left-wing trendy types have little to no understanding of logical processes or lines of reasoning, nay, the basic mechanics of debate.

It's another clear case where slogans that occupy their mind have clouded their ability to analyse and think through a line of reasoning to its consequences.

This exchange was a classic case of where moralising was presumed to be the ultimate arbiter on right and wrong. Moral feeling and slogans, however, are no match for analytical thinking. Once asked to explain the usage for the term 'bigot', alevine got caught out. He hadn't thought his slogan through to its consequences; not only that, he didn't even think one step ahead beyond the slogan. But let's not blame poor alevine here. Let's blame his 'intellectual' masters who have taught him words like 'bigot', 'fascist', 'sexist', 'racist' and the like are the be-all and end-all of discussion. His masters, being emotionally unstable and therefore unable to engage in cool, calm analytical reasoning, do not foresee that such base catchwords cannot stand up to rigorous analysis. Alevine, being an unthinking brute like his idols, falls into the same problems.

Hacking a dead girls phone.....News Ltd is a disgrace!!!

>:( >:( >:(

http://newsone.com/1366355/fox-news-rupert-murdochs-news-of-the-world-milly-dowler-phone-hacking/

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 11:12pm:

This exchange was a classic case of where moralising was presumed to be the ultimate arbiter on right and wrong. Moral feeling and slogans, however, are no match for analytical thinking. Once asked to explain the usage for the term 'bigot', alevine got caught out. He hadn't thought his slogan through to its consequences; not only that, he didn't even think one step ahead beyond the slogan. But let's not blame poor alevine here. Let's blame his 'intellectual' masters who have taught him words like 'bigot', 'fascist', 'sexist', 'racist' and the like are the be-all and end-all of discussion. His masters, being emotionally unstable and therefore unable to engage in cool, calm analytical reasoning, do not foresee that such base catchwords cannot stand up to rigorous analysis. Alevine, being an unthinking brute like his idols, falls into the same problems.

Who would these 'masters' be? Since the schools and media spout the opposite?

SOB

Murdoch loves backing winners. That's why he hitched himself to the Blair bandwagon and why he is supporting Abbott.

When a Labor leader eventually looks likely to form a government, Murdoch will switch sides. He is the ultimate political chameleon.

... wrote on May 21^st, 2013 at 9:36pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on May 21st, 2013 at 8:58pm: I dislike Murdoch because he has never been elected to any political office, yet uses his wealth and power to make or break governments. You dislike Murdoch because he has power.  That's cool, just don't go thinking the moral facade you try to shroud it in is fooling anyone.

I don't dislike Murdoch's power, only the way he employs it. No "morale facade", just dislike for people who use their power and money to undermine democracy.

philperth2010 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 12:13am:

Hacking a dead girls phone.....News Ltd is a disgrace!!! >:( >:( >:( http://newsone.com/1366355/fox-news-rupert-murdochs-news-of-the-world-milly-dowler-phone-hacking/

I agree.. and he closed it down.and he left those responsible to face the police.

philperth2010 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 12:13am:

Hacking a dead girls phone.....News Ltd is a disgrace!!! >:( >:( >:( http://newsone.com/1366355/fox-news-rupert-murdochs-news-of-the-world-milly-dowler-phone-hacking/

which rupert personally ordered and/or approved???

the implication you make revleas you to be a simpleton. Do you want to blame every evil committed by and ALP 'employee' on the PM or ALP President? Because if that is the case then Gillard is to blame for child porn, drug trafficking and child sex.