http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/state-liberals-propose-privatising-abc-sbs-20130521-2jz5d.html#poll


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State Liberals propose privatising ABC, SBS Tony Abbott is facing internal pressure from Victorian Liberals to privatise the ABC and SBS if he wins the September 14 election amid claims both organisations are struggling to comply with their charters. State Liberals have launched a push ahead of the election to sell the public broadcasters, arguing the funds raised should be used to pay off government debt. The Victorian Liberal Party's state conference this weekend will vote on a motion urging the federal Coalition to make a full-scale ''operational review'' of the ABC and SBS to ''look at the feasibility of partial or full privatisation of both''. The motion says the original arguments for public ownership and operation of the ABC and SBS are ''no longer valid in 2013'', arguing both broadcasters ''aggressively compete'' with private media outlets in a ''high-velocity public information environment''.  ''Public ownership of like corporations is not compatible with Coalition policies,'' the motion says. ''In a complex communication market where media outlets are required to set the agenda, ABC/SBS are finding it increasingly difficult to comply with their respective charters, thereby alienating constituents.'' Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's spokesman said it was a healthy debate, although it was ''not Coalition policy'' to examine the privatisation of the ABC. But many Liberals are adamant about the need for a review amid claims of left-leaning bias. Institute of Public Affairs executive director John Roskam said it was becoming ''more apparent by the day'' that concerns about public ownership and bias would need to be addressed if the Coalition won the September 14 election. ''This issue holding back the Coalition from properly assessing the future of the ABC is a perception of strong support for the ABC in rural and regional areas,'' Mr Roskam said. ''This is something the Coalition is going to have to address. Talk to Coalition MPs as the election comes closer and there is an even stronger view … that the ABC is barracking for one side.'' Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said the motion was a ''clear warning'' of the policies to expect if the Coalition wins the next election. He said federal opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull ''should immediately rule out this extreme position and recommit the Coalition to keeping the national broadcasters in public hands''

Tony Abbott needs to make his position clear before the election.....The ABC provides a valuable service to remote communities that the Private sector has ignored.....I see no value in only having right wing media to feed the public opinions based on vested interests.....I note the IPA does not consider its own position bias.....Australia needs a balanced media not one that only presents one point of view.....Leave our ABC & SBS alone Mr Abbott!!!!!!

>:( >:( >:(

philperth2010

Why does he NEED to make his position clear before the election ?

What crisis is there ?

The SBS is pretty self sufficient right now, the ABC is a work for the dole left wing media group the government needs to just cut back on, its not necessary, we have fairfax and channel 10.

Vic state libs trying to manipulate Abbott already ... is abbott that much of push over?

the ABC is funded by the govt...I am not sure why thats a blessing to be honest... and thats not just because its left bias...I am not sure something dependent on the govt of the day would dare tell us something if the govt told them "dont you dare"..like sacking Milne that time...sorry but that was disgraceful...and they talk about Murdoch...



the good thing about the ABC is no commercials..they are getting worse and worse on free to air..

____ wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:34am:

Vic state libs trying to manipulate Abbott already ... is abbott that much of push over?

oooo diddums thats the greens job to manipulate isnt it...its our way or no vote...

cods wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:35am:

____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:34am: Vic state libs trying to manipulate Abbott already ... is abbott that much of push over? oooo diddums thats the greens job to manipulate isnt it...its our way or no vote...

But you derided Gillard for being manipulated ... now abbott being shown weak is fine?

____ wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:40am:

cods wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:35am: ____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:34am: Vic state libs trying to manipulate Abbott already ... is abbott that much of push over? oooo diddums thats the greens job to manipulate isnt it...its our way or no vote... But you derided Gillard for being manipulated ... now abbott being shown weak is fine?

God you are pathetic greenscum.

Abbott is being urged by party members to consider it.

Gillard sold her fat @rse to the greens to grab power and will pay for it come September.

cods wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:34am:

the ABC is funded by the govt...I am not sure why thats a blessing to be honest... and thats not just because its left bias...I am not sure something dependent on the govt of the day would dare tell us something if the govt told them "dont you dare"..like sacking Milne that time...sorry but that was disgraceful...and they talk about Murdoch... the good thing about the ABC is no commercials..they are getting worse and worse on free to air..

cods

Its interesting that the ALP oppose work for the dole yet they support the ABC which looks like work for the dole, smells like work for the dole ........

Its not exactly like they rate very well or do a better job. I look at them as incompetent left wing media not sure why it needs to exist. Not sure why the government needs to own a TV broadcaster at all.

WRT to ads I have two lounge rooms in my house both with Twin Channel PVR's ..... I pretty much record everything I want to watch and never see ads. I can record about 2-3 weeks worth before the hard drives start filling up.

KJT1981

This is the left wing mantra, can't discuss anything like adults.

This is just a media storm in a tea cup. The ABC is a political sacred cow, there would be few votes to win getting rid of it but many to lose.

RightSadFred wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:28am:

philperth2010 Why does he NEED to make his position clear before the election ? What crisis is there ? The SBS is pretty self sufficient right now, the ABC is a work for the dole left wing media group the government needs to just cut back on, its not necessary, we have fairfax and channel 10.

The warning sign is that he doesnt make his position clear before the election. Why would anyone vote for someone they dont even know what the policies are?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:04am:

RightSadFred wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:28am: philperth2010 Why does he NEED to make his position clear before the election ? What crisis is there ? The SBS is pretty self sufficient right now, the ABC is a work for the dole left wing media group the government needs to just cut back on, its not necessary, we have fairfax and channel 10. The warning sign is that he doesnt make his position clear before the election. Why would anyone vote for someone they dont even know what the policies are? SOB

They did for Gillard dopey.

Well said Spot, the liberals like to keep the good Australian people in the dark.     >:(

KJT1981 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:48am:

____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:40am: cods wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:35am: ____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:34am: Vic state libs trying to manipulate Abbott already ... is abbott that much of push over? oooo diddums thats the greens job to manipulate isnt it...its our way or no vote... But you derided Gillard for being manipulated ... now abbott being shown weak is fine? God you are pathetic greenscum. Abbott is being urged by party members to consider it. Gillard sold her fat @rse to the greens to grab power and will pay for it come September.

And Abo lost the last election because he didn't.

Will history repeat ... will Abo sell his butt to Mr X, Katter, Palmer and a line of others for power?
If he throws it away again, its the end of his political career.

wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:07am:

Well said Spot, the liberals like to keep the good Australian people in the dark.     >:(

Labor like to lie their @rse off to the Australian people.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:04am:

RightSadFred wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:28am: philperth2010 Why does he NEED to make his position clear before the election ? What crisis is there ? The SBS is pretty self sufficient right now, the ABC is a work for the dole left wing media group the government needs to just cut back on, its not necessary, we have fairfax and channel 10. The warning sign is that he doesnt make his position clear before the election. Why would anyone vote for someone they dont even know what the policies are? SOB

You mean a particular policy on a particular government owned entity ?

If people were scared of Abbott they would not look like they are going to vote for them in droves.

What about the penalty rates, will people get to keep them?.  Why not spell it out for us Mr Abbott.  Is it yes or no?.      :( 

____ wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:08am:

KJT1981 wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:48am: ____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:40am: cods wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:35am: ____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:34am: Vic state libs trying to manipulate Abbott already ... is abbott that much of push over? oooo diddums thats the greens job to manipulate isnt it...its our way or no vote... But you derided Gillard for being manipulated ... now abbott being shown weak is fine? God you are pathetic greenscum. Abbott is being urged by party members to consider it. Gillard sold her fat @rse to the greens to grab power and will pay for it come September. And Abo lost the last election because he didn't. Will history repeat ... will Abo sell his butt to Mr X, Katter, Palmer and a line of others for power? If he throws it away again, its the end of his political career.

There you go again greenscum getting all wet and sticky.

Palmer will get nothing, Katter, probably get one seat, his.

Windsor gone, Oakshot gone. Half labor, gone.

You can put it back in your pants now it's game over.

wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:14am:

What about the penalty rates, will people get to keep them?.  Why not spell it out for us Mr Abbott.  Is it yes or no?.      :(

Oh Jesus crooks off again.

Imagine the next disaster under the hard right with the ABC sold.

"Catastrophic Wildfires are burning across the state. Now we will cross you to Tom Waterhouse for odds on which towns will burn ... "

KJT1981 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:14am:

____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:08am: KJT1981 wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:48am: ____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:40am: cods wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:35am: ____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:34am: Vic state libs trying to manipulate Abbott already ... is abbott that much of push over? oooo diddums thats the greens job to manipulate isnt it...its our way or no vote... But you derided Gillard for being manipulated ... now abbott being shown weak is fine? God you are pathetic greenscum. Abbott is being urged by party members to consider it. Gillard sold her fat @rse to the greens to grab power and will pay for it come September. And Abo lost the last election because he didn't. Will history repeat ... will Abo sell his butt to Mr X, Katter, Palmer and a line of others for power? If he throws it away again, its the end of his political career. There you go again greenscum getting all wet and sticky. Palmer will get nothing, Katter, probably get one seat, his. Windsor gone, Oakshot gone. Half labor, gone. You can put it back in your pants now it's game over.

If it was true, conservative posters would be coasting.

____ wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:15am:

Imagine the next disaster under the hard right with the ABC sold. "Catastrophic Wildfires are burning across the state due to the Greens refusal to allow hazard reduction burning Now we will cross you to[/highlight]Tom Waterhouse for odds on which towns will burn ... "  Greens leader Milne to explain why they are against reduction burning.

KJT1981 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:29am:

____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:15am: Imagine the next disaster under the hard right with the ABC sold. "Catastrophic Wildfires are burning across the state due to the Greens refusal to allow hazard reduction burning Now we will cross you to[/highlight]Tom Waterhouse for odds on which towns will burn ... "  Greens leader Milne to explain why they are against reduction burning.

Your 'only' friend ...  misinformation

RightSadFred wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:04am:

KJT1981This is the left wing mantra, can't discuss anything like adults.

Hilarious that you make that comment to numberplate ..... the rudest, most offensive person on this forum .

you're just as stupid as numberplate is.

I think ABC and SBS should be of limits.

but I bet that if Abbott gets his was they end up in the hands of Murdoch

John Smith wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:39am:

RightSadFred wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:04am: KJT1981This is the left wing mantra, can't discuss anything like adults. Hilarious that you make that comment to numberplate ..... the rudest, most offensive person on this forum . you're just as stupid as numberplate is.

You still don't get it Giovanni. Nor do any of you looney left mates.

John Smith wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:40am:

I think ABC and SBS should be of limits. but I bet that if Abbott gets his was they end up in the hands of Murdoch

...and you call me stupid.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Tony Abbott is facing internal pressure from Victorian Liberals to privatise the ABC and SBS if he wins the September 14 election

Tony is on good terms with a few potential buyers, ALREADY


http://thesnipertakesaim.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/abbott-murdoch-ipa-dinner.jpg http://www.independentaustralia.net/Wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/GinaTony.jpg



BOTH, being experienced media owners - and of people of fine character - who would NEVER exercise any hint of editorial control, compromising the content freedom of our NATIONAL BROADCASTER

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This weekend the Victorian Liberal Party’s state conference will vote on a motion urging the federal Coalition to make a full-scale ”operational review” of both broadcasters. The motion says the original arguments for public ownership and operation of the ABC and SBS are ”no longer valid in 2013”, arguing both ”aggressively compete” with private media outlets in a ”high-velocity public information environment” ”Public ownership of like corporations is not compatible with Coalition policies” , the motion says. ”In a complex communication market where media outlets are required to set the agenda, ABC/SBS are finding it increasingly difficult to comply with their respective charters, thereby alienating constituents”

KJT1981 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:46am:

John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:39am: RightSadFred wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:04am: KJT1981This is the left wing mantra, can't discuss anything like adults. Hilarious that you make that comment to numberplate ..... the rudest, most offensive person on this forum . you're just as stupid as numberplate is. You still don't get it Giovanni. Nor do any of you looney left mates.

yes, you made your share of numberplates when you were in jail ... who cares.

The Libs do not want the risk of having any media outlets which may tell the truth.

philperth2010 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 7:22am:

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/state-liberals-propose-privatising-abc-sbs-20130521-2jz5d.html#poll Quote: State Liberals propose privatising ABC, SBS Tony Abbott is facing internal pressure from Victorian Liberals to privatise the ABC and SBS if he wins the September 14 election amid claims both organisations are struggling to comply with their charters. State Liberals have launched a push ahead of the election to sell the public broadcasters, arguing the funds raised should be used to pay off government debt. The Victorian Liberal Party's state conference this weekend will vote on a motion urging the federal Coalition to make a full-scale ''operational review'' of the ABC and SBS to ''look at the feasibility of partial or full privatisation of both''. The motion says the original arguments for public ownership and operation of the ABC and SBS are ''no longer valid in 2013'', arguing both broadcasters ''aggressively compete'' with private media outlets in a ''high-velocity public information environment''.  ''Public ownership of like corporations is not compatible with Coalition policies,'' the motion says. ''In a complex communication market where media outlets are required to set the agenda, ABC/SBS are finding it increasingly difficult to comply with their respective charters, thereby alienating constituents.'' Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's spokesman said it was a healthy debate, although it was ''not Coalition policy'' to examine the privatisation of the ABC. But many Liberals are adamant about the need for a review amid claims of left-leaning bias. Institute of Public Affairs executive director John Roskam said it was becoming ''more apparent by the day'' that concerns about public ownership and bias would need to be addressed if the Coalition won the September 14 election. ''This issue holding back the Coalition from properly assessing the future of the ABC is a perception of strong support for the ABC in rural and regional areas,'' Mr Roskam said. ''This is something the Coalition is going to have to address. Talk to Coalition MPs as the election comes closer and there is an even stronger view … that the ABC is barracking for one side.'' Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said the motion was a ''clear warning'' of the policies to expect if the Coalition wins the next election. He said federal opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull ''should immediately rule out this extreme position and recommit the Coalition to keeping the national broadcasters in public hands'' Tony Abbott needs to make his position clear before the election.....The ABC provides a valuable service to remote communities that the Private sector has ignored.....I see no value in only having right wing media to feed the public opinions based on vested interests.....I note the IPA does not consider its own position bias.....Australia needs a balanced media not one that only presents one point of view.....Leave our ABC & SBS alone Mr Abbott!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's spokesman said it was a healthy debate, although it was ''not Coalition policy'' to examine the privatisation of the ABC.

____ wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:15am:

Imagine the next disaster under the hard right with the ABC sold. "Catastrophic Wildfires are burning across the state. Now we will cross you to Tom Waterhouse for odds on which towns will burn ... "

Why is more Tom Waterhouse a bad thing?

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 10:27am:

philperth2010 wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:22am: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/state-liberals-propose-privatising-abc-sbs-20130521-2jz5d.html#poll Quote: State Liberals propose privatising ABC, SBS Tony Abbott is facing internal pressure from Victorian Liberals to privatise the ABC and SBS if he wins the September 14 election amid claims both organisations are struggling to comply with their charters. State Liberals have launched a push ahead of the election to sell the public broadcasters, arguing the funds raised should be used to pay off government debt. The Victorian Liberal Party's state conference this weekend will vote on a motion urging the federal Coalition to make a full-scale ''operational review'' of the ABC and SBS to ''look at the feasibility of partial or full privatisation of both''. The motion says the original arguments for public ownership and operation of the ABC and SBS are ''no longer valid in 2013'', arguing both broadcasters ''aggressively compete'' with private media outlets in a ''high-velocity public information environment''.  ''Public ownership of like corporations is not compatible with Coalition policies,'' the motion says. ''In a complex communication market where media outlets are required to set the agenda, ABC/SBS are finding it increasingly difficult to comply with their respective charters, thereby alienating constituents.'' Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's spokesman said it was a healthy debate, although it was ''not Coalition policy'' to examine the privatisation of the ABC. But many Liberals are adamant about the need for a review amid claims of left-leaning bias. Institute of Public Affairs executive director John Roskam said it was becoming ''more apparent by the day'' that concerns about public ownership and bias would need to be addressed if the Coalition won the September 14 election. ''This issue holding back the Coalition from properly assessing the future of the ABC is a perception of strong support for the ABC in rural and regional areas,'' Mr Roskam said. ''This is something the Coalition is going to have to address. Talk to Coalition MPs as the election comes closer and there is an even stronger view … that the ABC is barracking for one side.'' Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said the motion was a ''clear warning'' of the policies to expect if the Coalition wins the next election. He said federal opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull ''should immediately rule out this extreme position and recommit the Coalition to keeping the national broadcasters in public hands'' Tony Abbott needs to make his position clear before the election.....The ABC provides a valuable service to remote communities that the Private sector has ignored.....I see no value in only having right wing media to feed the public opinions based on vested interests.....I note the IPA does not consider its own position bias.....Australia needs a balanced media not one that only presents one point of view.....Leave our ABC & SBS alone Mr Abbott!!!!!! ( Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's spokesman said it was a healthy debate, although it was ''not Coalition policy'' to examine the privatisation of the ABC.

That is how they do it - put the suggestion and see how much opposition there is. Eventually if they say it often enough people become de sensitised and then they go for it.

The sooner the abc is privatized the sooner

Australia is freed from the veil if terror and evil

it has been living under caused by the abc

KJT1981 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:06am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:04am: RightSadFred wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:28am: philperth2010 Why does he NEED to make his position clear before the election ? What crisis is there ? The SBS is pretty self sufficient right now, the ABC is a work for the dole left wing media group the government needs to just cut back on, its not necessary, we have fairfax and channel 10. The warning sign is that he doesnt make his position clear before the election. Why would anyone vote for someone they dont even know what the policies are? SOB They did for Gillard dopey.

go away troll

SOB

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 10:27am:

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's spokesman said it was a healthy debate, although it was ''not Coalition policy'' to examine the privatisation of the ABC

The Opposition Leader told ABC's The 7.30 Report yesterday that voters should not believe every pledge he makes unless it is written down as the "gospel truth".
Mr Abbott revealed that "in the heat of discussion" he sometimes went further with a promise than he should.

KJT1981 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:09am:

wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:07am: Well said Spot, the liberals like to keep the good Australian people in the dark.     >:( Labor like to lie their @rse off to the Australian people.

There wont be a carbon tax there will be a carbon price. Thats all you ppl have.

SOB

RightSadFred wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:13am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:04am: RightSadFred wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 7:28am: philperth2010 Why does he NEED to make his position clear before the election ? What crisis is there ? The SBS is pretty self sufficient right now, the ABC is a work for the dole left wing media group the government needs to just cut back on, its not necessary, we have fairfax and channel 10. The warning sign is that he doesnt make his position clear before the election. Why would anyone vote for someone they dont even know what the policies are? SOB You mean a particular policy on a particular government owned entity ? If people were scared of Abbott they would not look like they are going to vote for them in droves.

Mindless media soakers

SOB

KJT1981 wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:15am:

wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 8:14am: What about the penalty rates, will people get to keep them?.  Why not spell it out for us Mr Abbott.  Is it yes or no?.      :(  Oh Jesus crooks off again.

No actual argument then?

SOB

buzzanddidj wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 1:46pm:

FriYAY wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 10:27am: Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's spokesman said it was a healthy debate, although it was ''not Coalition policy'' to examine the privatisation of the ABC The Opposition Leader told ABC's The 7.30 Report yesterday that voters should not believe every pledge he makes unless it is written down as the "gospel truth". Mr Abbott revealed that "in the heat of discussion" he sometimes went further with a promise than he should.

There will be no carbon tax....

FriYAY wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 3:22pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 1:46pm: FriYAY wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 10:27am: Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's spokesman said it was a healthy debate, although it was ''not Coalition policy'' to examine the privatisation of the ABC The Opposition Leader told ABC's The 7.30 Report yesterday that voters should not believe every pledge he makes unless it is written down as the "gospel truth". Mr Abbott revealed that "in the heat of discussion" he sometimes went further with a promise than he should. There will be no carbon tax....

it was an off the cuff comment during an interview . It wasn't written down, why do you set one standard for Gillard and a different one for Tony?