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Message started by Greens_Win on May 22nd, 2013 at 12:37pm

Title: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Greens_Win on May 22nd, 2013 at 12:37pm
On now ... should be good for a laugh

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Dnarever on May 22nd, 2013 at 12:57pm
In the draw it is listed as a bye

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Rider on May 22nd, 2013 at 1:27pm
Joe ROCKS!

Great to see the (not so big) man in action, he's chopping up the Canberra Press Gallery like the mugs they are.

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by bogarde73 on May 22nd, 2013 at 1:39pm
He'll slay them.
I suppose the ugly fat bitch from SBS will be there trying to stir up trouble . . .Karen Puddingfacedbitch is it?

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Greens_Win on May 22nd, 2013 at 1:48pm
poor old hockey ... confusing billions with millions ... and now confusing maternity leave with annual leave.


Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Innocent bystander on May 22nd, 2013 at 1:49pm
Hockey is a road block on the lefts road to Greece.

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by FriYAY on May 22nd, 2013 at 1:59pm

Dnarever wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 12:57pm:
In the draw it is listed as a bye



That’s because he has no one to play against, obviously.

::)

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Dnarever on May 22nd, 2013 at 3:49pm

Innocent bystander wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 1:49pm:
Hockey is a road block on the lefts road to Greece.


I would think more like a jet on the Liberals way to greece.

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Kat on May 23rd, 2013 at 9:36am

____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 12:37pm:
On now ... should be good for a laugh



It was.

So much garbage sprouted in such a short time.

All Con-alition spin and unwarranted attacks on Labor's handling of the economy.

No facts whatsoever. And absolutely NO vision, beyond Aus-terity.

This goose has no bloody idea.

At all.

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by FriYAY on May 23rd, 2013 at 9:56am

Kat wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 9:36am:

____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 12:37pm:
On now ... should be good for a laugh



It was.

So much garbage sprouted in such a short time.

All Con-alition spin and unwarranted attacks on Labor's handling of the economy.

No facts whatsoever. And absolutely NO vision, beyond Aus-terity.

This goose has no bloody idea.

At all.


Oh FFS, it's hardly different to the ALP budget.

No bloody idea alright ::)

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 24th, 2013 at 8:47am

Kat wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 9:36am:

____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 12:37pm:
On now ... should be good for a laugh



It was.

So much garbage sprouted in such a short time.

All Con-alition spin and unwarranted attacks on Labor's handling of the economy.

No facts whatsoever. And absolutely NO vision, beyond Aus-terity.

This goose has no bloody idea.

At all.


Yeah, lets just keep spending and borrowing like Wayne Goose. See how far that gets us. Idiot...

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by dsmithy70 on May 24th, 2013 at 9:08am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 8:47am:
Yeah, lets just keep spending and borrowing like Wayne Goose.



Yes we will be puddle, no matter WHO wins the next election, but keep hold of your dreams ;)


Quote:
Writing in the Australian Financial Review, Mark Latham sees the Opposition's response to the budget as proof the 40-year war on big government has been lost – that the Coalition now broadly supports social welfare. "Abbott had a chance to set out an alternative vision for smaller government, to roll back the welfare state… (his) budget speech was a 30-minute exercise in white-flag waving."

Australia’s 28th Prime Minister might be a DLP Prime Minister yet.



Quote:
Australia’s 40-year debate about the role of government is over. And Labor has won. The election of the Whitlam government in 1972 marked the beginning of the steady expansion of social democratic service delivery. Whitlamism declared that the essential services of a good society could only be delivered through the collective resources of the state.

The Hawke and Keating governments honoured Gough’s legacy through Medicare, national superannuation, mass university education and environmental protection. The Rudd and Gillard governments have continued this pattern through DisabilityCare, paid parental leave, public housing reform and the NBN. Each of the markers of a modern, civilised, cradle-to-grave welfare state is now in place. Over four decades, public expenditure in Australia has risen from 27 per cent to 39 per cent of GDP.

The great debate ended last Thursday when, in his budget reply speech, Tony Abbott conceded defeat. After three years of grinding negativity about Labor’s policies, especially the scale of government spending, Abbott had a chance to set out an alternative vision for smaller government, to roll back the welfare state. Instead, he rubber-stamped most of Labor’s measures and added his own burst of profligacy.

According to opinion polls, the government will be routed electorally on September 14. But this is secondary to the most important struggle in national politics: the battle for ideological supremacy. Here the Liberals are in retreat. Abbott’s budget speech was a 30-minute exercise in white-flag waving.

Take his stance on welfare entitlements. The Opposition Leader announced that even though he is abolishing the carbon tax, he will maintain annual payments of $4.5 billion as carbon tax compensation. This is an entitlement the likes of which we have never seen, the payment of money to offset the financial impact of a tax which won’t exist under an Abbott government. It is the Liberal equivalent of bad-back syndrome: compo for nothing.

After 20 years of strong economic growth and large increases in real disposable income, Australian households can easily cope with reduced transfer payments. As private incomes have grown, middle class welfare can be wound back, thereby restoring the budget to surplus.
The ‘age of entitlement’ continues

This is the type of strategy shadow treasurer Joe Hockey has spoken about in promising to end ‘the age of entitlement’. But far from ending entitlements, Abbott announced two new ones: the compo-for-nothing scheme and more generous paid parental leave, with payments of up to $75,000 for six months’ leave. Hockey was made to look like a fool.

The Liberal leader also confirmed major expenditure on his command-and-control Direct Action policy for carbon abatement. Consider the contradiction. The compo-for-nothing scheme will give households extra money with which to buy cheaper carbon-intensive products, while Direct Action will spend taxpayer funds on tree planting and carbon sequestration.

The net impact of Abbott’s speech is to weaken the budget bottom-line by $7.8 billion over four years. This is just the beginning of Coalition extravagance. Earlier this year, Barnaby Joyce endorsed a plan for spending $30 billion on dam construction. “It’s a good policy,” he told Sydney Radio 2GB. “We need to do it.” Shadow finance minister Andrew Robb has described these water projects as vital to the nation’s economic development.

In its accumulated promises, the Coalition – just like the Fraser and Howard governments before it – is set to add to the size of the public sector. Australia’s right-wing ideologues have wasted their time in arguing for smaller government. Their man Abbott is a dud.

•••

On Sunday the well-connected News Ltd commentator Peter van Onselen wrote of “scuttlebutt” being spread by Liberal MPs that Andrew Robb’s “health isn’t good”. Some of “his more ambitious colleagues are now using [Robb’s battle with depression] against him,” he said. Last month, when I criticised Robb’s deceitfulness in his book, Black Dog Daze, senior Liberals Jeff Kennett and Nick Minchin complained about unfair attacks on “a good man”.

I look forward to Kennett and Minchin tracking down the MPs in van Onselen’s article and outing them publicly. If they shirk this task, it will expose their complaints as having been more about party politics than mental illness.

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 24th, 2013 at 9:18am

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 8:47am:
Yeah, lets just keep spending and borrowing like Wayne Goose.



Yes we will be puddle, no matter WHO wins the next election, but keep hold of your dreams ;)


Quote:
Writing in the Australian Financial Review, Mark Latham sees the Opposition's response to the budget as proof the 40-year war on big government has been lost – that the Coalition now broadly supports social welfare. "Abbott had a chance to set out an alternative vision for smaller government, to roll back the welfare state… (his) budget speech was a 30-minute exercise in white-flag waving."

Australia’s 28th Prime Minister might be a DLP Prime Minister yet.


[quote]Australia’s 40-year debate about the role of government is over. And Labor has won. The election of the Whitlam government in 1972 marked the beginning of the steady expansion of social democratic service delivery. Whitlamism declared that the essential services of a good society could only be delivered through the collective resources of the state.

The Hawke and Keating governments honoured Gough’s legacy through Medicare, national superannuation, mass university education and environmental protection. The Rudd and Gillard governments have continued this pattern through DisabilityCare, paid parental leave, public housing reform and the NBN. Each of the markers of a modern, civilised, cradle-to-grave welfare state is now in place. Over four decades, public expenditure in Australia has risen from 27 per cent to 39 per cent of GDP.

The great debate ended last Thursday when, in his budget reply speech, Tony Abbott conceded defeat. After three years of grinding negativity about Labor’s policies, especially the scale of government spending, Abbott had a chance to set out an alternative vision for smaller government, to roll back the welfare state. Instead, he rubber-stamped most of Labor’s measures and added his own burst of profligacy.

According to opinion polls, the government will be routed electorally on September 14. But this is secondary to the most important struggle in national politics: the battle for ideological supremacy. Here the Liberals are in retreat. Abbott’s budget speech was a 30-minute exercise in white-flag waving.

Take his stance on welfare entitlements. The Opposition Leader announced that even though he is abolishing the carbon tax, he will maintain annual payments of $4.5 billion as carbon tax compensation. This is an entitlement the likes of which we have never seen, the payment of money to offset the financial impact of a tax which won’t exist under an Abbott government. It is the Liberal equivalent of bad-back syndrome: compo for nothing.

After 20 years of strong economic growth and large increases in real disposable income, Australian households can easily cope with reduced transfer payments. As private incomes have grown, middle class welfare can be wound back, thereby restoring the budget to surplus.
The ‘age of entitlement’ continues

This is the type of strategy shadow treasurer Joe Hockey has spoken about in promising to end ‘the age of entitlement’. But far from ending entitlements, Abbott announced two new ones: the compo-for-nothing scheme and more generous paid parental leave, with payments of up to $75,000 for six months’ leave. Hockey was made to look like a fool.

The Liberal leader also confirmed major expenditure on his command-and-control Direct Action policy for carbon abatement. Consider the contradiction. The compo-for-nothing scheme will give households extra money with which to buy cheaper carbon-intensive products, while Direct Action will spend taxpayer funds on tree planting and carbon sequestration.

The net impact of Abbott’s speech is to weaken the budget bottom-line by $7.8 billion over four years. This is just the beginning of Coalition extravagance. Earlier this year, Barnaby Joyce endorsed a plan for spending $30 billion on dam construction. “It’s a good policy,” he told Sydney Radio 2GB. “We need to do it.” Shadow finance minister Andrew Robb has described these water projects as vital to the nation’s economic development.

In its accumulated promises, the Coalition – just like the Fraser and Howard governments before it – is set to add to the size of the public sector. Australia’s right-wing ideologues have wasted their time in arguing for smaller government. Their man Abbott is a dud.

•••

On Sunday the well-connected News Ltd commentator Peter van Onselen wrote of “scuttlebutt” being spread by Liberal MPs that Andrew Robb’s “health isn’t good”. Some of “his more ambitious colleagues are now using [Robb’s battle with depression] against him,” he said. Last month, when I criticised Robb’s deceitfulness in his book, Black Dog Daze, senior Liberals Jeff Kennett and Nick Minchin complained about unfair attacks on “a good man”.

I look forward to Kennett and Minchin tracking down the MPs in van Onselen’s article and outing them publicly. If they shirk this task, it will expose their complaints as having been more about party politics than mental illness.
[/quote]

Still posting random crapola from Left-wing hacks, eh? Some things never change!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by dsmithy70 on May 24th, 2013 at 9:22am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 9:18am:
Still posting random crapola from Left-wing hacks, eh? Some things never change!



Any chance you might think about & discuss the issues raised?

Or would that give you a headache & depression, from the realization that everything you've riled against for the last 2.5 years is now LIBERAL POLICY???


Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Dnarever on May 24th, 2013 at 9:51am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 8:47am:

Kat wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 9:36am:

____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 12:37pm:
On now ... should be good for a laugh



It was.

So much garbage sprouted in such a short time.

All Con-alition spin and unwarranted attacks on Labor's handling of the economy.

No facts whatsoever. And absolutely NO vision, beyond Aus-terity.

This goose has no bloody idea.

At all.


Yeah, lets just keep spending and borrowing like Wayne Goose. See how far that gets us. Idiot...


Labor have been progressivly cutting back the free give away in th form of middle class welfair.

The Liberals have announced plans to spend lots and greatly increase the debt levels, you don't seem to get it.

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 24th, 2013 at 10:43am

Dnarever wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 9:51am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 8:47am:

Kat wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 9:36am:

____ wrote on May 22nd, 2013 at 12:37pm:
On now ... should be good for a laugh



It was.

So much garbage sprouted in such a short time.

All Con-alition spin and unwarranted attacks on Labor's handling of the economy.

No facts whatsoever. And absolutely NO vision, beyond Aus-terity.

This goose has no bloody idea.

At all.


Yeah, lets just keep spending and borrowing like Wayne Goose. See how far that gets us. Idiot...


Labor have been progressivly cutting back the free give away in th form of middle class welfair.

The Liberals have announced plans to spend lots and greatly increase the debt levels, you don't seem to get it.


I see you're confusing fiction with reality again...

Title: Re: Hockey @ The National Press Club
Post by dsmithy70 on May 24th, 2013 at 10:51am

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 24th, 2013 at 10:43am:
I see you're confusing fiction with reality again...



You've got nothing have you Puddle, well nothing but denial.

Whats fictitious?

Frankly your proving to be even more shallow, I think I'll call you Teaspoon from now on.


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