http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/17290526/appalling-attack-in-britain-likely-terrorist-related-pm/



Coming to a city near you soon.

I dont think turning this into exactly what they would do under the same circumstances... fanaticism    is that what you want here??..is terrorism Islam I dont think so... look at Ireland.

gee, haven't seen a "hate islam" thread in such a long long time.

____ wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 5:43pm:

gee, haven't seen a "hate islam" thread in such a long long time.

you have been too busy reading the "hate" Abbott threads thats why

cods wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 5:51pm:

____ wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 5:43pm: gee, haven't seen a "hate islam" thread in such a long long time. you have been too busy reading the "hate" Abbott threads thats why

Observations of Abbott's many weaknesses is not hate.

Why would woof woof assume anyone would defend the actions of a couple of murderers?

its what they are representing that should be of concern..............

I thought this was an interesting read, seems history will repeat itself as we clearly have learnt nothing from it.
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Some Western countries have banned Islamic immigration, others have always banned it and have escaped the worst of what Islam has to offer.

The word “Barbaric” conjures up lessons never learnt...

From the North African Barbary Coast in 395 AD, Barbarian tribes conducted murderous forays into the Roman Empire.

They also infiltrated Rome from the north but the mighty empire foolishly ignored the invasion as something that could be contained.

Soon, many Barbarians began to settle deep within the borders of the empire. It was allowed to happen despite the Barbarian culture openly embracing a bloodthirsty and arrogant war-like lifestyle.

Once they had infiltrated in sufficient numbers they attacked the city of Rome itself, slaughtering and raping Roman citizens, looting and laying waste to the Eternal City.

By 412 AD, they had gained sufficient momentum to attack Spain and parts of what is now France.

The Roman Empire, along with its mighty legions, was brought to its knees by the immigration of a subversive foreign culture.

Rome was to regret that it did not initially meet the Barbarian threat head on when it could easily have dealt with it.

Sixteen hundred years later we discard history in the name of politically correct multiculturalism.

And it’s not as if Islam hasn’t given us notice of what it intends to achieve.

A line in the sand needs to be drawn... and soon.

woof woof wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:13pm:

its what they are representing that should be of concern..............

So we should pay attention to the rantings of a couple of nutjob killers?
A dog tells a nut job yank to be a serial killer so we say all dogs want us to bump each other off.. :D

Lets face it..if crazies are going to hack someone the death with meat cleavers and butchers knives they can claim anything they like but in the end they are just nutjob murderers.

Crikey the Irish Catholics have made a national sport out of killing English soldiers and police in every horrific way they can think of so do we have a panic attack every time we see a Catholic or the Irish.
Murderers are murderers no matter what excuse they use.

____ wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 5:55pm:

cods wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 5:51pm: ____ wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 5:43pm: gee, haven't seen a "hate islam" thread in such a long long time. you have been too busy reading the "hate" Abbott threads thats why Observations of Abbott's many weaknesses is not hate.

just read some of them froma righties perspective. you will see what I mean...try reading adelcrow when hes on a rampage..

as a righty I see them as pure HATE

woof woof wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:13pm:

its what they are representing that should be of concern..............

A statement from the Muslim Council of Britain said:

"This is a truly barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this unreservedly.
Our thoughts are with the victim and his family"


http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/latest/17290085/appalling-attack-in-britain-likely-terrorist-related-pm/

buzzanddidj wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:38pm:

woof woof wrote on May 23rd, 2013 at 6:13pm: its what they are representing that should be of concern.............. A statement from the Muslim Council of Britain said: "This is a truly barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this unreservedly. Our thoughts are with the victim and his family" http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/latest/17290085/appalling-attack-in-britain-likely-terrorist-related-pm/

But Buzz...we should only listen to the rantings of the killers..not an organisation representing Muslim Brits.
You're not playing the game the media wants us to play  :D

woof woof wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:16pm:

They also infiltrated Rome from the north but the mighty empire foolishly ignored the invasion as something that could be contained. Soon, many Barbarians began to settle deep within the borders of the empire. It was allowed to happen despite the Barbarian culture openly embracing a bloodthirsty and arrogant war-like lifestyle.

I don't think that is an accurate understanding of how the Roman Empire buckled under pressure from the barbarian tribes, not from all the books I read on the subject when I was in high school. The prevailing message was twofold: (1) by the time the barbarian hordes started invading the Empire, the Empire had already been suffering from two centuries of civil war and political instability, of emperors being assassinated, challenged by rebellious generals and deposed; (2) it was not complacency that doomed the Empire, but military weakness due to internal collapse. The Roman Army fought the barbarian hordes but could not hold them back. It suffered from defeat after defeat because it consisted mostly of infantry, which could not hold back an enemy that used cavalry as its main offensive weapon.


woof woof wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:16pm:

The Roman Empire, along with its mighty legions, was brought to its knees by the immigration of a subversive foreign culture.

It was the other way round. The barbarians weren't much of a civilisation. They started to integrate Roman ideas into their own cultures. They became more Roman. Of course they didn't stop raiding villages. It took a while to end their barbarian ways and put down the sword.


woof woof wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:16pm:

Rome was to regret that it did not initially meet the Barbarian threat head on when it could easily have dealt with it.

No, it couldn't. It would never have defeated the barbarians, even if it started from day one. Marcus Aurelius was the last of the great emperors who ever confronted them. It was too weak militarily and it wasn't politically stable. Their infantry was ineffective against barbarian cavalry. The government was barely functioning.

As the Empire grew weaker, some emperors and some generals started using the barbarian tribes for their own selfish agendas. Emperors used them as mercenaries to maintain their power. Rebellious generals used them as allies to subvert the authority of the emperor. The barbarian tribes started to replace the traditional Roman army.


woof woof wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:16pm:

Sixteen hundred years later we discard history in the name of politically correct multiculturalism.

You're trying to twist ancient history to describe what you see as a modern problem. It didn't happen the way you're describing here. The Romans were never strong enough to beat the barbarians. They had the wrong weapons and tactics.

buzzanddidj wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:38pm:

A statement from the Muslim Council of Britain said: "This is a truly barbaric act that has no basis in Islam and we condemn this unreservedly. Our thoughts are with the victim and his family" http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/latest/17290085/appalling-attack-in-britain-likely-terrorist-related-pm/

That statement from the Muslim Council of Britain are a bare faced lies.


Just like these lies from the Muslim Council of Britain......




from The muslim council of Britain - the umbrella organisation representing all British muslims:


Quote:

Rejecting Terror Thursday, 11 April 2013 Muslims everywhere consider all acts of terrorism that aims to murder and maim innocent human beings utterly reprehensible and abhorrent. There is no theological basis whatsoever for such acts in our faith. The very meaning of the word 'Islam' is peace. It rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony.

http://www.mcb.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2307:mcbnewstemplate&catid=82:mcb-news
http://www.mcb.org.uk/article_detail.php?article=announcement-656i




n.b.

"......There is no theological basis whatsoever for such acts [violence against disbelievers] in our faith."
The muslim council of Britain - the umbrella organisation representing all British muslims:





A PROPOSITION IN LOGIC;
The contents of ISLAM's own foundation texts, the Koran and Hadith, and the unguarded declarations of many moslems themselves,
....ARE A WITNESS AGAINST THE CRIMINAL INTENT OF MOSLEMS - TOWARDS THOSE WHO ARE NOT MOSLEMS.iAGAIN;

FROM THE SUNNA OF MOHAMMED - ISLAM'S PROPHET AND ARGUABLY, THE AUTHOR OF OF ALL OF ISLAM'S THEOLOGY

Allah's Apostle said,
"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."

hadith/bukhari #004.052.220

".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....."

hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062





AGAIN;

FROM ISLAM'S PRIMARY THEOLOGICAL TEXT

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11



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how islam divides the world, Dar al-Harb