Watching the never-ending disaster that is the Gillard Government one is drawn back to the dying year of the Whitlam government where everything it touched turned to disaster and nothing they did made a positive difference. Scandal upon scandal and disastrous news every week made this government a byword for incompetence. This failed government was slaughtered by a record majority in 1975 as punishment for 3 years of chronic mismanagement.

1977 saw labor slaughtered yet again gaining only a handful of seats back from the Fraser Government. No one ever expected to see such a massacre in australian politics again. Even John Howard's massive thumping of Keating in 1996 was nowhere near the flogging Whitlam received. But then came the 2011 NSW state election.

This election defeat was not a harsh one or even a flogging. It was far worse than that. Only harkening back to the dim days of the 1975 election can we find a parallel. NSW Labor was 'whitlamised'. Amazingly, they suffered an even worse defeat than did big Gough. But worse was to come. QLD sent the ALP to 7 seats in a Tarago in a history worst-ever result for labor.

And now we see the never-ending incompetent saga of Gillard and her cronies. While Rudd was a poor performer by any definition, Gillard has way outstripped him for the title of the 21st century Whitlam. If only she had Whitlam's oratory powers! That would at least be something to be salvaged from this dreadful PM.

The carbon tax has sent Labor's already parlous primary vote plummetting. The wrong side of 30% is now a real possibility - a level well below that which Whitlam received.

'Whitlamised' is a new term. 'New', because no political analyst expected to ever have another electoral drubbing on a par with the 1975 election. But NSW and QLD Labor gave the word life and now Gillard is giving continuation to it. On current levels Gillard is facing a savage thrashing at a general election. But the future holds even more bad news.

The Carbon Tax is eroding support in labor heartland while galvanising conservative voters who might otherwise be shifted. The Greens - who gave Gillard the preferences she needed last election - are themselves seeing a backlash and consequently their vote is dropping like a stone. Support from the union movement is drying up and the voting public is not at all convinced.

All this looks like a perfect storm for 21st century Labor. State governments falling like dominoes, federal labor self-destructing and no sign of anyone coming to the fore to stop the factions from ripping apart australias oldest political party. And the NBN wont save Labor.

Massive cost overruns and delays before the project even gets started is not a good sign for the future. As the NBN goes along it could become a running sore for the ailing Gillard govt as it spends $50-60B on a project few in the heartland city electorates see any need for. Rather than becoming a monument to their foresight and vision it could just as easily stand as a glaring example of their profligate spending and general inability to govern responsibly.

In 2013 she will end up being 'whitlamised' and ironically lead labor into the electoral wilderness that Whitlam lead 1972 labor out of.

Being 'whitlamised' sounds a lot like being 'euthanised'. I the case of  the Gillard government, the parallel is even closer.

Not a truer word has been written

43 000 bogus refugees aren't complaining.  ;)

Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:17pm:

43 000 bogus refugees aren't complaining.  ;)

15 million voters are however (or 23million if you listen to valley_boy)

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:23pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:17pm: 43 000 bogus refugees aren't complaining.  ;) 15 million voters are however (or 23million if you listen to valley_boy)

So, all voters are complaining about the Gillard Government?

Really?

Where are you getting that information from?

:-/

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:23pm: Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:17pm: 43 000 bogus refugees aren't complaining.  ;) 15 million voters are however (or 23million if you listen to valley_boy) So, all voters are complaining about the Gillard Government? Really? Where are you getting that information from? :-/

seriously... THAT is what you get from the OP????

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:29pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:23pm: Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:17pm: 43 000 bogus refugees aren't complaining.  ;) 15 million voters are however (or 23million if you listen to valley_boy) So, all voters are complaining about the Gillard Government? Really? Where are you getting that information from? :-/ seriously... THAT is what you get from the OP????

Seriously, can you answer the question?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:32pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:29pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:23pm: Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:17pm: 43 000 bogus refugees aren't complaining.  ;) 15 million voters are however (or 23million if you listen to valley_boy) So, all voters are complaining about the Gillard Government? Really? Where are you getting that information from? :-/ seriously... THAT is what you get from the OP???? Seriously, can you answer the question?

Hmmm... let's pretend that the answer was metaphorical rather than mathematical. Or at least let's assume that that is what most people with half a brain would have worked out. But for you I will restate it...

12million (15million minus the 30% of voters that still support her) are complaining about her.

now are you happy or feeling a little silly? Trust me, the latter is what you should be feeling.

Whitlamised will be replaced by "You are totally Gillard" as in "You are totally buggered"

Maqqa wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:42pm:

Whitlamised will be replaced by "You are totally Gillard" as in "You are totally buggered"

a whole string of new aussie expressions...
"you are so gillarded!'
'You are such a juliar!!'
' you are as trustworthy as a swan budget'
'there will be no (insert word) in any family/company/club I run'!


anyone for any more?

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:34pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:32pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:29pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:23pm: Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:17pm: 43 000 bogus refugees aren't complaining.  ;) 15 million voters are however (or 23million if you listen to valley_boy) So, all voters are complaining about the Gillard Government? Really? Where are you getting that information from? :-/ seriously... THAT is what you get from the OP???? Seriously, can you answer the question? Hmmm... let's pretend that the answer was metaphorical rather than mathematical. Or at least let's assume that that is what most people with half a brain would have worked out. But for you I will restate it... 12million (15million minus the 30% of voters that still support her) are complaining about her. now are you happy or feeling a little silly? Trust me, the latter is what you should be feeling.

Feeling silly?

For knowing that not all voters are complaining about the Gillard Government?  No, not at all.  Quite the contrary.

Feeling silly?

For knowing that 15 million minus the 30% of voters that still support her is actually 10.5 million and not 12 million?  No, not at all.  Quite the contrary.

You have to wonder how 3/10 Australians can vote for this mess. Who are these people?

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:45pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:42pm: Whitlamised will be replaced by "You are totally Gillard" as in "You are totally buggered" a whole string of new aussie expressions... "you are so gillarded!' 'You are such a juliar!!' ' you are as trustworthy as a swan budget' 'there will be no (insert word) in any family/company/club I run'! anyone for any more?

'There's more chance of me flying to Mars than...'

matty wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:47pm:

You have to wonder how 3/10 Australians can vote for this mess. Who are these people?

You think that's weird, 4 .8 out of ten buggers seem to think phony Tony is a good choice.

An airplane was about to crash; there were 5 passengers on board, but only 4 parachutes.

The first passenger said, "I am President Obama, the chosen one. The world needs me, I can't afford to die." So he took the first parachute and left the plane.

The second passenger, Julia Gillard, said, "I am the prime Minister of Australia and I am the smartest woman in Australian history, so Australia's people don't want me to die." She took the second parachute and jumped out of the plane.

The third passenger, John Kerry, said, "I'm a Senator, and a decorated war hero from the Army of the United States of America ." So he grabbed the parachute next to him and jumped.

The fourth passenger, ex-President George W. Bush, said to the fifth passenger, a 10-year-old schoolgirl, "I have lived a full life, and served my country the best I could. I will sacrifice my life and let you have the last parachute."

The little girl said, "That's okay, Mr. President. There's a parachute left for you. Australia 's smartest woman took my schoolbag."

Paul Keating, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell. While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for. The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth. Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.

Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes. When she is finished the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.

Finally Paul Keating gets his turn and talks for 4 hours. When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00. When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Howard got to call Australia so cheaply.

The devil smiles and replies: "Since GILLARD took over, the country has gone to hell, so it's a local call.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:45pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:38pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:34pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:32pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:29pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:23pm: Innocent bystander wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:17pm: 43 000 bogus refugees aren't complaining.  ;) 15 million voters are however (or 23million if you listen to valley_boy) So, all voters are complaining about the Gillard Government? Really? Where are you getting that information from? :-/ seriously... THAT is what you get from the OP???? Seriously, can you answer the question? Hmmm... let's pretend that the answer was metaphorical rather than mathematical. Or at least let's assume that that is what most people with half a brain would have worked out. But for you I will restate it... 12million (15million minus the 30% of voters that still support her) are complaining about her. now are you happy or feeling a little silly? Trust me, the latter is what you should be feeling. Feeling silly? For knowing that not all voters are complaining about the Gillard Government?  No, not at all.  Quite the contrary. Feeling silly? For knowing that 15 million minus the 30% of voters that still support her is actually 10.5 million and not 12 million?  No, not at all.  Quite the contrary.

oops... that was an epic fail of mental arithmetic. But given that the post was metaphorical and not mathematical, of no consequence particularly when it assumes that all the 30% dont dislike her. I think it is more than likely that a thrid of them are going to vote for her despite disliking her enormously.

matty wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:47pm:

You have to wonder how 3/10 Australians can vote for this mess. Who are these people?

They are the ppl who dont have televisions . . . .

SOB

matty wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:47pm:

You have to wonder how 3/10 Australians can vote for this mess. Who are these people?

i do wonder too, i dont think ive met one and i work in the poorest of the poor suburbs. filling poor suburbs that are bursting at the seams with country shoppers was just political suicide.  kevin rudd started it and now he gets to gloat over the mess he created.  i would say kevvie is the only happy labor voter in oz and even he may vote liberal just to get back at the back stabbers ;)

longweekend58

The media bombardment and spin cycle did not exist back then, but the ALP were very delusional about their prospects.

Rudd was similar to Gough as he captured a nation for a very short period, but Gough was not knifed by his own party, the current ALP is far more dysfunctional then the rabble under Gough. Back then I did not recall anyone openly attacking Gough internally.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

matty wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:47pm: You have to wonder how 3/10 Australians can vote for this mess. Who are these people? i do wonder too, i dont think ive met one and i work in the poorest of the poor suburbs. filling poor suburbs that are bursting at the seams with country shoppers was just political suicide.  kevin rudd started it and now he gets to gloat over the mess he created.  i would say kevvie is the only happy labor voter in oz and even he may vote liberal just to get back at the back stabbers ;)

aquascoot

Many decades ago the rusted ons were well into the high 30% of the population, even might have been over 40%, similarly unionism was much higher. The ALP use to get well over 40% primary.

Since then the ALP voter base (along with union membership) was dismantling as the working class evolved from manufacturing blue collar jobs to being self employed or into white collar jobs..... they no longer saw the need for unions or the ALP for that matter.

The ALP have just not evolved and if 30% of the population (or less) is all they can rely on they might be out of the game for a decade or two. No doubt the ALP are rapidly reaching their use by date, what is left running the federal party is clearly the bottom of the barrel.

The 30% left might be 20% rusted on and 10% of people who really just hate Abbott.

If the ALP keep to the same path in a decade we might be discussing the same thing about why 25% want to still vote ALP.

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

longweekend58 The media bombardment and spin cycle did not exist back then, but the ALP were very delusional about their prospects. Rudd was similar to Gough as he captured a nation for a very short period, but Gough was not knifed by his own party, the current ALP is far more dysfunctional then the rabble under Gough. Back then I did not recall anyone openly attacking Gough internally.

Back then Gough was labors only shining light. He literally stood head and shoulders above the rest of them. Gillard however is just a clown.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:45pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:42pm: Whitlamised will be replaced by "You are totally Gillard" as in "You are totally buggered" a whole string of new aussie expressions... "you are so gillarded!' 'You are such a juliar!!' ' you are as trustworthy as a swan budget' 'there will be no (insert word) in any family/company/club I run'! anyone for any more?

Yep, here's a couple that have already made it into slang.I heard a kid use the first one the other day. Too funny, pissed myself laughing.
You're a phoney  Tony...... for liars.
He is an Abbott.....for men that bash women.

skippy. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 1:52pm:

Yep, here's a couple that have already made it into slang.I heard a kid use the first one the other day. Too funny, pissed myself lauging. You're a phoney  Tony...... for liars. He is an Abbott.....for men that bash women.

You're a phony tony.

... wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 1:55pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 1:52pm: Yep, here's a couple that have already made it into slang.I heard a kid use the first one the other day. Too funny, pissed myself lauging. You're a phoney  Tony...... for liars. He is an Abbott.....for men that bash women. You're a phony tony.

So are you.

skippy. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 1:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:45pm: Maqqa wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:42pm: Whitlamised will be replaced by "You are totally Gillard" as in "You are totally buggered" a whole string of new aussie expressions... "you are so gillarded!' 'You are such a juliar!!' ' you are as trustworthy as a swan budget' 'there will be no (insert word) in any family/company/club I run'! anyone for any more? Yep, here's a couple that have already made it into slang.I heard a kid use the first one the other day. Too funny, pissed myself laughing. You're a phoney  Tony...... for liars. He is an Abbott.....for men that bash women.

"A liar and repressed homo" - could fit for any of doing a skippy, adel, John Smith or alevine.

Matty... A former member of the GREENS and advocate for same sex marriage between humans and animals.
Doing a Matty... Leaving the GREENS or smacking your dog. Yea, this is fun hey Matty?

Still predicting that Gillard will beat ABbott, roo-poo?

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 7:49pm:

Still predicting that Gillard will beat ABbott, roo-poo?

Depends, she or he might get dumped first.

skippy. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 7:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 7:49pm: Still predicting that Gillard will beat ABbott, roo-poo? Depends, she or he might get dumped first.

you really are a wanker. Gillard could get knifed (perhaps literally) but Abbott is untouchable for reasons almost everybody except you understand.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 4:27am:

matty wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:47pm: You have to wonder how 3/10 Australians can vote for this mess. Who are these people? They are the ppl who dont have televisions . . . . SOB

I was thinking more along the lines of brains, not televisions, but whatever floats your boat.

matty wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 7:55pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 4:27am: matty wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:47pm: You have to wonder how 3/10 Australians can vote for this mess. Who are these people? They are the ppl who dont have televisions . . . . SOB I was thinking more along the lines of brains, not televisions, but whatever floats your boat.

Matty won't be happy until his dog can vote. If he can marry his canine lover it should also get the vote.

aquascoot wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 6:57am:

matty wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:47pm: You have to wonder how 3/10 Australians can vote for this mess. Who are these people? i do wonder too, i dont think ive met one and i work in the poorest of the poor suburbs. filling poor suburbs that are bursting at the seams with country shoppers was just political suicide.  kevin rudd started it and now he gets to gloat over the mess he created.  i would say kevvie is the only happy labor voter in oz and even he may vote liberal just to get back at the back stabbers ;)

I haven't met any either, Fred. I don't know where they are hiding. In regards to Kevin, it's going to be an interesting few months. Destabilisation and revenge are his only goals.

skippy. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 2:47pm:

Matty... A former member of the GREENS and advocate for same sex marriage between humans and animals. Doing a Matty... Leaving the GREENS or smacking your dog. Yea, this is fun hey Matty?

Still bitter that you and your male lover can't get hitched? Or that Abbott is going to romp it in come election night? You know the man that you said would go the way of Latham, and never be PM?

matty wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:47pm: Matty... A former member of the GREENS and advocate for same sex marriage between humans and animals. Doing a Matty... Leaving the GREENS or smacking your dog. Yea, this is fun hey Matty? Still bitter that you and your male lover can't get hitched? Or that Abbott is going to romp it in come election night? You know the man that you said would go the way of Latham, and never be PM?

Abbott was my male lover, but he dumped me for his fox terrier.

matty wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 8:01pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:47pm: Matty... A former member of the GREENS and advocate for same sex marriage between humans and animals. Doing a Matty... Leaving the GREENS or smacking your dog. Yea, this is fun hey Matty? Still bitter that you and your male lover can't get hitched? Or that Abbott is going to romp it in come election night? You know the man that you said would go the way of Latham, and never be PM?

Skippy and Adele can cross the ditch and live happily ever after.

Mr and Mr Crow has a nice ring about it.

A cross between a Crow and a Roo would be interesting to David Attenborough.

skippy. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2013 at 8:13pm:

matty wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 8:01pm: skippy. wrote on Jun 8th, 2013 at 2:47pm: Matty... A former member of the GREENS and advocate for same sex marriage between humans and animals. Doing a Matty... Leaving the GREENS or smacking your dog. Yea, this is fun hey Matty? Still bitter that you and your male lover can't get hitched? Or that Abbott is going to romp it in come election night? You know the man that you said would go the way of Latham, and never be PM? Abbott was my male lover, but he dumped me for his fox terrier.

Skippy reckons this dog gives good head. Trouble is Skip has to share it with Adele. Who goes slops Skip?

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Has Sophie Mirabella authorised the use of her image here, KY gel?

skippy. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:50pm:

matty wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:47pm: You have to wonder how 3/10 Australians can vote for this mess. Who are these people? You think that's weird, 4 .8 out of ten buggers seem to think phony Tony is a good choice.

still better then the 3 who want Gillard.

[b]JUST IN CASE YOU FORGET THE ACTUAL OP..[/b]

Watching the never-ending disaster that is the Gillard Government one is drawn back to the dying year of the Whitlam government where everything it touched turned to disaster and nothing they did made a positive difference. Scandal upon scandal and disastrous news every week made this government a byword for incompetence. This failed government was slaughtered by a record majority in 1975 as punishment for 3 years of chronic mismanagement.

1977 saw labor slaughtered yet again gaining only a handful of seats back from the Fraser Government. No one ever expected to see such a massacre in australian politics again. Even John Howard's massive thumping of Keating in 1996 was nowhere near the flogging Whitlam received. But then came the 2011 NSW state election.

This election defeat was not a harsh one or even a flogging. It was far worse than that. Only harkening back to the dim days of the 1975 election can we find a parallel. NSW Labor was 'whitlamised'. Amazingly, they suffered an even worse defeat than did big Gough. But worse was to come. QLD sent the ALP to 7 seats in a Tarago in a history worst-ever result for labor.

And now we see the never-ending incompetent saga of Gillard and her cronies. While Rudd was a poor performer by any definition, Gillard has way outstripped him for the title of the 21st century Whitlam. If only she had Whitlam's oratory powers! That would at least be something to be salvaged from this dreadful PM.

The carbon tax has sent Labor's already parlous primary vote plummetting. The wrong side of 30% is now a real possibility - a level well below that which Whitlam received.

'Whitlamised' is a new term. 'New', because no political analyst expected to ever have another electoral drubbing on a par with the 1975 election. But NSW and QLD Labor gave the word life and now Gillard is giving continuation to it. On current levels Gillard is facing a savage thrashing at a general election. But the future holds even more bad news.

The Carbon Tax is eroding support in labor heartland while galvanising conservative voters who might otherwise be shifted. The Greens - who gave Gillard the preferences she needed last election - are themselves seeing a backlash and consequently their vote is dropping like a stone. Support from the union movement is drying up and the voting public is not at all convinced.

All this looks like a perfect storm for 21st century Labor. State governments falling like dominoes, federal labor self-destructing and no sign of anyone coming to the fore to stop the factions from ripping apart australias oldest political party. And the NBN wont save Labor.

Massive cost overruns and delays before the project even gets started is not a good sign for the future. As the NBN goes along it could become a running sore for the ailing Gillard govt as it spends $50-60B on a project few in the heartland city electorates see any need for. Rather than becoming a monument to their foresight and vision it could just as easily stand as a glaring example of their profligate spending and general inability to govern responsibly.

In 2013 she will end up being 'whitlamised' and ironically lead labor into the electoral wilderness that Whitlam lead 1972 labor out of.

Being 'whitlamised' sounds a lot like being 'euthanised'. I the case of  the Gillard government, the parallel is even closer.