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Title: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by imcrookonit on Jun 9th, 2013 at 9:31am
Pay cut for Australian workers when changes to superannuation take effect
James Campbell Herald Sun June 07, 2013 THE take-home pay of thousands of Australians will drop from next month when government changes to superannuation take effect. :-? From July 1, the compulsory superannuation guarantee - the amount employers must pay into workers' super funds - will rise from 9 per cent to 9.25 per cent. While this will make no differences to the take-home pay of workers on awards, thousands of people who are employed on contracts and whose salary is defined as a "total package" will see their take-home pay drop by 0.25 per cent. This is because under these contracts there is no obligation for the employer to increase the total amount it pays employees. :) The cuts will be particularly noticed in companies that have instituted pay-freezes this year because of the sluggish economy. And if Labor is re-elected in September, next month's cut in take-home pay for these employees will be repeated every July until 2019 as the compulsory superannuation guarantee rises to 12 per cent. Julie Mills, chief executive of the Information Technology Contract and Recruitment Association, estimated half the 100,000 people employed on IT contracts in Australia would see their pay packets shrink next month. "Anecdotally 50 per cent of people employed in the industry will be affected by this, unless they have managed to renegotiate with their employers," she said. Jessica Lindell, a spokeswoman for Financial Services and Superannuation Minister Bill Shorten, confirmed the anomaly but was unable to provide figures on how many people were affected. The Coalition has pledged to delay the increase in compulsory superannuation by two years if it is elected in September. :( Read more: http://www.news.com.au/money/superannuation/pay-cut-for-australian-workers-when-changes-to-superannuation-take-effect/story-e6frfmdi-1226659586408#ixzz2VfbmK1nk |
Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by KJT1981 on Jun 9th, 2013 at 9:35am wrote on Jun 9th, 2013 at 9:31am:
That can't be right. Swan and Julia tell us we are doing great and are the envy of the world. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 9th, 2013 at 9:39am
We aren't giving workers a pay cut but the % increases for 2014 will be in net package.
So by increasing superannuation means the increase in base will be lower. At the end of the day we can't afford to pay more and it's an additional cost to employer. |
Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by imcrookonit on Jun 9th, 2013 at 9:42am
While this will make no differences to the take-home pay of workers on awards, thousands of people who are employed on contracts and whose salary is defined as a "total package" will see their take-home pay drop by 0.25 per cent. :)
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Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 9th, 2013 at 9:44am
We don't have workers on awards anywhere in our company in Australia.
They are more trouble than they are worth. |
Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by hawil on Jun 9th, 2013 at 12:31pm wrote on Jun 9th, 2013 at 9:42am:
Super is only for the benefit of the very rich, amongst which are politicians, Union leaders, the super industry, etc... When will the workers on average incomes wake up to the "Super fraud"? This is what I asked Penny Wong, and I,am still waiting for an answer. To the Hon.P Wong MP PO Box 6237 Halifax Street ADELAIDE SA 5000 12’th March 2013 Dear Ms.Wong. In the AFR article “PM keeps superannuation tax-free for over -60s” 7.Feb 2013 you are quoted as saying: “the government would listen to all ideas”. Here is what the government should look at very seriously. This is how the retirees are treated in Australia. Retiree: 1) Worked for 45 years and paid taxes, but did not accumulate enough assets to be completely independent of the age-pension. For every dollar of extra income for him and his wife above $6,500, the couple loses $0.50 of age pension, and if their income exceeds $45,000 per annum, the couple will pay tax of $0.315 in the dollar including medicare levy, leaving them with an income of $0.185 from every dollar extra income. For the defined benefit income a 10% tax-offset applies if paid from an Australian super fund, but not if the income comes from an overseas fund. Retiree 2) Has accumulated assets of $1.5million,mostly with huge tax concessions, and the assets are in a so-called taxed Self Managed Super Fund. To be very conservative, the assets are in a term deposit earning 7.0% income of $122,500 per annum and even if the retiree is single, he/she will not pay a cent of tax. Now if the assets are in fully franked shares, like banks, and return $100,000 worth of franked dividends, he/she will again pay no tax on the dividend, and the government will send him/her a cheque of $30,000 for the franking credits. Should the assets of these retirees fall below a certain level, they will be entitled to the age pension as anyone else, therefore why does the government provides the rich retirees with such huge tax concessions, while punishing the retirees at the lower income scale with the punitive means-test of the age pension? Retiree 3) Is an ex-politician or highly paid public servant, in receipt of a defined benefit pension of $100,000, on which he/she will have to pay tax, but he/she gets a 10% tax offset, which equals $10,000 after reaching retirement age, but before retiring, the public servant can establish a SMSF and contribute into it extra with tax concessions if the $25,000 total for under fifty and $50,000, if over fifty is not exceeded and in addition he/she can contribute $150,000 from after tax income, and the earnings from the SMSF will only attract 15% tax, and when the person reaches the age of 60 even the income will be completely tax-free for the SMSF. Retiree’s 2) are well represented by the media and the super industry, as well as the Unions, and retiree’s 3) are represented by the government, and ironically by the leadership of various retiree Associations, like ACPSRO and its affiliated Associations, but who represents retiree’s 1) the part- pensioners who are being robbed of a decent standard of living in retirement by the means-test of the age pension. What is the fairest solution; scrap the mean test of the age pension and scrap all tax concessions for super. Will Gillard have the courage and scrap the tax concessions for super and the means test for the age pension. After all Howard introduced the tax-free super in one fell swoop. Is there any other country which treats its citizens in such a discriminatory manner? I would like to refer you to two recent articles; 1st) AFR ,Dec 8-9. 2012 by Brian Toohey, “Compulsory super makes little sense. 2nd)AFR 13.Feb 2013 by Alison Kahler, “Don’t put super over the national good. Recently there was a lot written about changes in super, which now seems to have disappeared, because the super industry and the Unions seem to be secure that the government will not make any drastic changes to the tax concessions for super. Last year, a record number of Australians travelled to other countries, a drain on the Australian economy, and many of the travellers were probably self-funded retirees, who benefit enormously from the tax concessions for super. Yours truly Hawil |
Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by Dnarever on Jun 9th, 2013 at 12:58pm
thousands of people who are employed on contracts and whose salary is defined as a "total package" will see their take-home pay drop by 0.25 per cent.
Many won't a lot of employers will not rip off their workers it isn't compulsory. We hear time after time how good it is to negotiate you own deal and they have never been disadvantaged, some of them could use a bit of a lesson - besided they think they are much more than 0.25% better off anyway. Maybe they could take Tony's advice, a bad employer is like a bad father. |
Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by Swagman on Jun 9th, 2013 at 5:02pm wrote on Jun 9th, 2013 at 9:42am:
Add another 0.50% drop because from 01/07/14 the Medicare tax is going up 0.50% as well to pay for Labor pork barrelling |
Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by adelcrow on Jun 9th, 2013 at 5:04pm
Abbotts recession will see hundreds of thousands of Aussies that are currently employed thrown onto the dole so the last thing they need to worry about is a pay cut..you've been warned
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Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by adelcrow on Jun 9th, 2013 at 5:09pm Swagman wrote on Jun 9th, 2013 at 5:02pm:
Yep...how dare they try and help the disabled and their families..she should have done an Abbott when he was health minister and ignore the problem ;D |
Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by longweekend58 on Jun 9th, 2013 at 6:47pm
on the average wage of $50K this will result in the truly poverty-inducing cut of take home wages of $125pa or $2.50/week.
Hardly devastating but keep in mind that that extra $125pa in your super isn't going to make much difference either. |
Title: Re: Will You Be One That Gets A Pay Cut. Post by RightSadFred on Jun 9th, 2013 at 9:00pm
longweekend58
It all happen before with Super, the government spin on super is that they doing you a favour by increasing super. Its your money. Its kind of true for those who can't save but the real motive behind super is to get workers off the government nipple when they retire, then tax them again. My other investments eclipse my super ..... I get something like 5-10% at best on my super, my other investments make 10-20% ....... I am toying with the idea of self managing my super. |
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