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Title: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:11pm

Bloody Liberal hypocrites!

It justifies every claim made by Gillard recently!

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:18pm

And Brough reckons he was blind, just like Hockey.
Yeah, right. I always go to functions, and never bother to read the Menu.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:22pm

Any man who is not a woman is evil.... Just ask Gillard

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:25pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Bloody Liberal hypocrites!

It justifies every claim made by Gillard recently!

Crap... :D

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:25pm

But why is it that Abbott whinges about Gillard describing Liberals as sexist when this Liberal Party document proves it beyond any credible dispute?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:26pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:25pm:

But why is it that Abbott whinges about Gillard describing Liberals as sexist when this Liberal Party document proves it beyond any credible dispute?

LOL

She went a bit further than that! :D

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:27pm

The further offensive language (blocked out) included the words, 'with red box.' No attempt at all to hide its sexist nature.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:32pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

The further offensive language (blocked out) included the words, 'with red box.' No attempt at all to hide its sexist nature.

At least it was just written on a menu - not spewed out for the entire population to hear.

Gillard will sink the ALP even further than being predicted now - stupid menus or no...

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Innocent bystander on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:34pm

hey aussie there is no doubt that every male member of the liberal helped to make that menu, bloody liberals :D

Meanwhile gillard imports 40 000 of the most vile mysoginists the world has ever known ;D

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Socrates on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:34pm

Dillard is in a state of extreme panic.......any crap she can spew out of that freaky face will cover the media until September.

Abortion
Misogynist
Carbon Tax
ILLEGALS (capitals to help the Village Idiot - woodpecca)
Education
Blue ties!!!!

Jeez......what next? Just how smacking desperate can she and her clowns get?

They've LOST and they are now merely bailing out the rapidly sinking junk!

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Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:37pm

Yesterday I was sighing because Gillard fired up the gender wars once more. But reading today's news I am left wondering exactly how f***ked the liberals still are when it comes to casual sexism and racism.

I can understand Hockey not reading the menu - the fat ass would probably always just eat everything on the menu, so no point looking at it and deciding.

But Mal Brough needs to stop his quest for parliament. Obviously he isn't fit. And obviously he is yet another loon that should be as far away from Canberra as possible.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:39pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

The further offensive language (blocked out) included the words, 'with red box.' No attempt at all to hide its sexist nature.

At least it was just written on a menu - not spewed out for the entire population to hear.

Gillard will sink the ALP even further than being predicted now - stupid menus or no...

It was PRINTED on a carefully thought out and PREPARED menu for a Liberal Party function, and I'm sure they all had a huge giggle at it. Not now, given the sh1t has hit the fan.

Brough has now been forced to admit it was deeply offensive and sexist.

Pity there will likely be photos of him holding the menu with a stupid smirk on his face.

The Liberal Party is a haven for sexism right down to grass roots, and there is no point denying it.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:39pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:37pm:

Yesterday I was sighing because Gillard fired up the gender wars once more. But reading today's news I am left wondering exactly how f***ked the liberals still are when it comes to casual sexism and racism.

I can understand Hockey not reading the menu - the fat ass would probably always just eat everything on the menu, so no point overlooking it and deciding.

But Mal Brough needs to stop his quest for preselection. Obviously he isn't fit. And obviously he is yet another loon that should be as far away from Canberra as possible.

Well, your point just went down the crap hole with that comment.

::)

Stick to the "where's Matty threads".

:-X :-X

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:43pm

See if this link works.

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Liberal National Party candidate Mal Brough apologises for 'offensive and sexist' menu which mocked Julia Gillard's body
By political reporter Latika Bourke, staff

Updated 38 minutes ago
Menu from a Liberal fundraising dinner for Mal Brough. Photo: Offensive: The menu from the fundraising dinner (Twitter)
Related Story: Gillard accused of stoking gender war over abortion
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High-profile Liberal National Party candidate Mal Brough has apologised for a "deeply regrettable, offensive and sexist" menu at one of his fundraisers, which mocked Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s body.

The menu featured a dish called "Julia Gillard Kentucky Fried Quail – Small Breasts, Huge Thighs & A Big Red Box."

Mr Brough says the menu was drawn up by a non-party member who thought it would be "humorous" and "didn't mean any harm by it," but is now "deeply apologetic".

Shadow treasurer Joe Hockey was the guest of honour at the March event, but has tweeted that he can't recall ever seeing the menu.

"It is offensive and inappropriate whenever it was put out and it is now," he said.

Mr Brough, a former Howard government minister who is seeking to return to parliament in a Queensland seat, has also defended his colleague, telling the ABC "Mr Hockey had nothing to do with it."

Mr Brough also insisted he could not recall seeing the menu at the event for 20 people, held on March 28.

Asked if it could see him disendorsed, or affect his preselection in any way, Mr Brough said that was a "ridiculous" suggestion.

"I didn't condone the menu nor did I authorise it...it should never have been written," he said.

The menu emerged on Twitter this morning after Ms Gillard was accused of stoking a "false gender war" with her comments over abortion.

Speaking to a fundraising organisation linked to the Labor Party, called Women for Gillard, the PM warned the issue would become the "political plaything of men" if Tony Abbott became prime minister.

This morning Deputy Opposition Leader Julie Bishop called the comments a "crude political ploy from a desperate PM leading a bitterly divided party" and demanded an apology from Ms Gillard.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:43pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:39pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:37pm:

Yesterday I was sighing because Gillard fired up the gender wars once more. But reading today's news I am left wondering exactly how f***ked the liberals still are when it comes to casual sexism and racism.

I can understand Hockey not reading the menu - the fat ass would probably always just eat everything on the menu, so no point overlooking it and deciding.

But Mal Brough needs to stop his quest for preselection. Obviously he isn't fit. And obviously he is yet another loon that should be as far away from Canberra as possible.

Well, your point just went down the crap hole with that comment.

::)

Stick to the "where's Matty threads".

:-X :-X

? What can I do when I take the examples of my "leaders"? ;) If my "leaders" didn't believe it was okay to talk about small breasts and large thighs then perhaps I wouldn't refer to Hockey as a massive fat ass. Plus it's the only conclusion one can make when he actually claims he didn't look at the menu. Last time I checked, when you arrive at a function the menu is at the table in front of your seat.

And my comments are there to inspire the outrage as you have provided. It's not nice to be on the other end of the shoe, is it. ;)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:45pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:39pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

The further offensive language (blocked out) included the words, 'with red box.' No attempt at all to hide its sexist nature.

At least it was just written on a menu - not spewed out for the entire population to hear.

Gillard will sink the ALP even further than being predicted now - stupid menus or no...

LOL

A dumb menu (everyone has seen these "jokes" before) V's a dumb PM spewing forth her hatred for all to see.

::) ::)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Socrates on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:47pm

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Now there's an obviously neutral point of view........ ;D sighing and buggered........

I think there's far more "casual sex" (whoops..ism) in the labor mob just ask Craig.... ;D

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Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:54pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:39pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

The further offensive language (blocked out) included the words, 'with red box.' No attempt at all to hide its sexist nature.

At least it was just written on a menu - not spewed out for the entire population to hear.

Gillard will sink the ALP even further than being predicted now - stupid menus or no...

LOL

A dumb menu (everyone has seen these "jokes" before) V's a dumb PM spewing forth her hatred for all to see.

::) ::)

I'd say her point has been quite well demonstrated by the two d1ckheads and their lovely deranged imbecile fundraiser organizer.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm

Of course it's offensive and shouldn't have been done, but how is Tony Abbott to blame for it? As far as I am aware, he wasn't even at the function.

It's like how people were trying to blame him for Alan Jones 'died of shame comments'.

Gillard, on the other hand, made thosse offensive and sexist comments about men herself.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by iceyone on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:38pm

Not really surprising is it.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:41pm

Now, let's see whether Mr Abbott is consistent, or is this going to be another clear demonstration of his basic dishonesty. He called for Slipper to be sacked when he (Slipper) used inappropriate language and Slipper eventually resigned over it.

Quote:

Peter Slipper has narrowly survived a vote to remove him from the parliamentary Speaker's position amid a blistering and personal debate over accusations of sexism.

Tony Abbott took the unusual step of calling for a vote to immediately sack the Speaker, following revelations he used offensive language to describe female genitalia.

The comment was revealed in a text message sent by Mr Slipper to his stood aside staffer James Ashby, that have since been tendered to the Federal Court as part of a sexual harassment case.

I regret to speak in this way to this house, but it is necessary... to prosecute this matter - the vile anatomically specific language to which this Speaker appears to be addicted.
Tony Abbott

Mr Abbott has described the language as "vile" and has demanded Labor dump him from the role.

"This is obviously a rare and unusual step that I take at the start of Question Time today, but it is a necessary step," Mr Abbott told Parliament, in moving a motion to have Mr Slipper removed.

"This Speaker is disqualified from high office - not by the fact of the legal action currently on foot against him. But he is disqualified by the undenied, uncontradicted facts that have emerged in the course of this case.

"There are the truly gross references to female genitalia.

"I regret to speak in this way to this house, but it is necessary... to prosecute this matter - the vile anatomically specific language to which this Speaker appears to be addicted."

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:12pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:39pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

The further offensive language (blocked out) included the words, 'with red box.' No attempt at all to hide its sexist nature.

At least it was just written on a menu - not spewed out for the entire population to hear.

Gillard will sink the ALP even further than being predicted now - stupid menus or no...

LOL

A dumb menu (everyone has seen these "jokes" before) V's a dumb PM spewing forth her hatred for all to see.

::) ::)

I'd say her point has been quite well demonstrated by the two d1ckheads and their lovely deranged imbecile fundraiser organizer.

I’d say it has nothing to do with her point.

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

Gillard’s comments were the type of crap you see on here from desperate morons.

::) ::)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:14pm

Quote:

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

So, you will be demanding the dis-endorsement of Brough and Hockey?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by longweekend58 on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:28pm

Has anyone even confirmed that this menu actually exists? no one has even confirmed seeing it and all we have is a journos phone camera pic of something that for all we know he printed up himself.

A little confirmation would be helpful.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:32pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:28pm:

Brough has confirmed it. Read the links above.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:43pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by mozzaok on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:58pm

I have to agree with Aussie, it shows at least some Libs hold very disrespectful, sexist views.
I also find Aboott's response very telling, as it avoids any acceptance of wrongdoing, and lacks the apology thaat should have been immediately forthcoming.
Sexist and classless.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:07pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

Quote:

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

So, you will be demanding the dis-endorsement of Brough and Hockey?

I’ve never demanded the dis-endorsement of anyone.

The menu was school boy pathetic.

Gillard’s comments were a dam disgrace.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:13pm

Maybe it was a typo. Have you leftards ever thought of that?

Typical.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:14pm

But Mr Yay, you said:

Quote:

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

Brough was responsible for it, and Hockey was there guffawing at its contents.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:15pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

Quote:

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

So, you will be demanding the dis-endorsement of Brough and Hockey?

I’ve never demanded the dis-endorsement of anyone.

The menu was school boy pathetic.

Gillard’s comments were a dam disgrace.

That's right. How dare she complain about blue ties. Almost every Liberal MP wears them.

It's blatant discrimination. That woman should get off her high horse.

It's no wonder we'll need a chaff bag to get rid of her.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:24pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:14pm:

But Mr Yay, you said:

Quote:

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

Brough was responsible for it, and Hockey was there guffawing at its contents.

Yep……and?

Kick ‘em out, I couldn’t care less. Pathetic schoolboy crap.

But not in anyway does that excuse PM Gillard’s mad ravings.

She sounds like the unhinged dam loops on here.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:25pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:15pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

Quote:

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

So, you will be demanding the dis-endorsement of Brough and Hockey?

I’ve never demanded the dis-endorsement of anyone.

The menu was school boy pathetic.

Gillard’s comments were a dam disgrace.

Piss off biscuit.... ::)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:28pm:

OH ITS A CONSPIRACY THEORY NOW IS IT?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:27pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

I'm trying to understand how it's sexist to say Men in Blue ties? It goes towards a sterotype of a alpha authoriative male, perhaps, but how is it sexist? And honestly, I don't really get the "blue" part...

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Mnemonic on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:28pm

When Julia accuses Tony of sexism, it's not about whether Tony's policies or comments are actually sexist. Julia is talking about herself, not Tony. It has more to do with Julia feeling like a victim than Tony being an oppressor.

Yet, that's the reasoning behind victimhood in the workplace and in government. If someone feels they are a victim of sexism, racism or some other kind of discriminatory behaviour, bullying or harassment, then that is sufficient. It doesn't matter what the "oppressor" actually said or did.

For example, if you're a man and start doing things that are unintentionally annoying to a woman or you somehow end up in the same places as her, she might think you're harassing, following or stalking her. It doesn't matter if you have no intention of harassing, following or stalking, that you somehow said or did things, by coincidence, that made her uncomfortable. If she thinks it's sexual harassment, it's sexual harassment. If she thinks you're stalking her, you're stalking her. It doesn't matter what you think, it doesn't matter why you said or did what you did. What matters is how she feels.

What exists in the victim's mind is what matters, not that of the alleged oppressor.

I'm not saying it's wrong, because sometimes the "victim" really does feel that way, and you can't be sure. You just have to believe them.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:28pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:15pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

Quote:

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

So, you will be demanding the dis-endorsement of Brough and Hockey?

I’ve never demanded the dis-endorsement of anyone.

The menu was school boy pathetic.

Gillard’s comments were a dam disgrace.

Piss off biscuit.... ::)

Excuse me, moderators, this leftard is trying to plan a menu with me. I want him gone.

I would like it on record that I will not discuss dishes with this man.

Matty is the only dish I want on the menu, thank you very much.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:28pm

mozzaok wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:58pm:

Oh it always avoids any acceptance of wrongdoing and is always a sweep under the carpet. He needs to tell Brough to piss off. And Hockey needs to be chastised as he should've known better.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:31pm

Mnemonic wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:28pm:

Mr Monic......that's very nice, but it has nothing to do with a pathetic, disgusting, vile, inappropriate piece of UNDENIABLE Liberal sexism directed at Gillard.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:31pm

mozzaok wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:58pm:

mozzaok

So do all politicians on both sides and society in general do this kind of rubbish (do we have to bring up the rubbish from the union convention ??? that many ALP MP attended and watched)

This is all womens weekly type rubbish hardly worth mentioning.

Abbott could run around parliament house naked and still get elected ..... might even give him a poll bounce

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:32pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

It's just good taste. Most club ties are blue - private school ties too.

If I wish to wear my Melbourne Club tie I should have every right to do so without the vile JuLiar's approval.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:32pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:14pm:

But Mr Yay, you said:

Quote:

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

Brough was responsible for it, and Hockey was there guffawing at its contents.

Yep……and?

Kick ‘em out, I couldn’t care less. Pathetic schoolboy crap.

But not in anyway does that excuse PM Gillard’s mad ravings.

She sounds like the unhinged dam loops on here.

or a woman who has to deal with this crap every day. Don't get me wrong, I was the same as you yesterday. When I read the news yesterday I rolled my eyes and say, "oh not again." But today really shows to me exactly what the boys club in parliament and within poltiical realms really does, and what she does in fact have to put up with. I support her and this particular incident has only too well proven to me at least that here we are yet again with men of the 1960s. Enough is enough. When will they learn? Why was there nothing about perhaps, "Brough's Banana Split - a shriveled miniature dessert that won't satisfy?" Why do we never see that? But we constantly see the same crap relating to women's breasts or thighs, or just general disregard? It has to stop. And it has to stop by telling people that the excuse of "I didn't see it" is no longer good enough.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Datalife on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:41pm

hehehe, the Lab brand is so toxic and on the nose they are appropriating Lib colours on campaign material, sides of vans and without any mention at all of Labor.

But I reckon all the Labor ministers are taking off their blue ties and putting them away on a separate hanger until after the election. 8-)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:45pm

Datalife wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:41pm:

Actually no. Garrett and Rudd wore blue today.

But is this what we're going to learn from all of this? Who wears blue ties and who doesn't? This is the problem with the liberal brand - its supporters never want to acknowledge there is a social problem. And as a result never want to improve the society, but rather just float within it and whine whenever they feel they aren't receiving their fair share of welfare. We see it with racism each time a debate is raised, and now we're seeing it with sexism.

It's not true liberalism, but rather some very weird hybrid version of a conservative and socialist. How far from Liberalism the libs have gone.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:46pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

you brought it up.... :P

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:47pm

Datalife

I recall an article a few weeks back where an ALP member had chosen blue as his campaign colours, so they have not only cut out the toxic word Labor, the are wearing camouflage to look like Liberals.

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Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:48pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:46pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

you brought it up.... :P

Quote:

Gillard, on the other hand, made thosse offensive and sexist comments about men herself.

Yes, in reference to your claim. Unless you have some other statement she made about MEN that you found offensive?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:56pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:48pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:46pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

you brought it up.... :P

Quote:

Gillard, on the other hand, made thosse offensive and sexist comments about men herself.

Yes, in reference to your claim. Unless you have some other statement she made about MEN that you found offensive?

Not my comment. ;)

Gillard’s comments were dumb, the menu was dumb.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:58pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:56pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:48pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:46pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

you brought it up.... :P

Quote:

Gillard, on the other hand, made thosse offensive and sexist comments about men herself.

Yes, in reference to your claim. Unless you have some other statement she made about MEN that you found offensive?

Not my comment. ;)

Gillard’s comments were dumb, the menu was dumb.

Oh yes... it was the other...the great and mightiful. Apologies ;)

But your comment

Quote:

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

also doesn't make sense to me. How does it demonstrate that Gillard's comments was dumb? Was she not right to call out the stereotype especially after seeing it in action today?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:03pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:58pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:56pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:48pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:46pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

you brought it up.... :P

Quote:

Gillard, on the other hand, made thosse offensive and sexist comments about men herself.

Yes, in reference to your claim. Unless you have some other statement she made about MEN that you found offensive?

Not my comment. ;)

Gillard’s comments were dumb, the menu was dumb.

Oh yes... it was the other...the great and mightiful. Apologies ;)

But your comment
[quote]
It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

also doesn't make sense to me. How does it demonstrate that Gillard's comments was dumb? Was she not right to call out the stereotype especially after seeing it in action today?[/quote]

This menu means abortion will become the plaything of men?

I understand what your saying, but it is just too convenient to now, after the fact, say “see she’s right”.

This stupid menu had nothing to do with her desperate anti men conspiracy rant from the day before.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Neferti on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:05pm

Gillard does have a HUGE arse. So?

Tony Abbot has sticky-out ears. So?

Are you perfect, Aussie?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:14pm

Neferti wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:05pm:

Gillard does have a HUGE arse. So?

Tony Abbot has sticky-out ears. So?

Are you perfect, Aussie?

Now that you mention it..................

8-)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Neferti on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:21pm

Can someone teach the old cocks on this site how to REPLY to ONE post at a time, rather than COPY 50 million of them?

For example use the signs [ ] with word quote between the signs .... for the beginning of what you want to quote and the end sign is the [ ] with the slash /quote within the brackets to END the quote. Use the backspace or delete key to get rid of the RUBBISH!

IF you have something to say, why do you have to quote a days worth of what others have said?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Neferti on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:25pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:14pm:

Now that you mention it..................

8-)

Yeah, right! A perfect .... (I'll let somebody else fill in the blanks).

Is it raining up there? Pissing down here. The farmers will be thrilled. :)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by longweekend58 on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:27pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

for goodness sake, READ THE SPEECH.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by longweekend58 on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:29pm

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:31pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:58pm:

from the women for sure. the men have already dumped Gillard after her misandrist comments.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:29pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:27pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

It demonstrates beyond any doubt just how deeply rooted within the Liberal Party, even at grass roots, sexism thrives. The tail always takes the lead from the head.

It demonstrates no less of Gillard's comments though does it?

::)

Men in blue ties?

Who?

Swan, Combet, Shorten, Wong?????

for goodness sake, READ THE SPEECH.

I'd ask if you had, but I doubt it given nothing you say ever has any backing. I must admit, I didn't read the speech, but judging on the news reports both today and last night her comments are about TONY and the stereotyped political male LIKE tony. And We know that Tony is sexist, so how is it sexist to call out men who are sexist on being sexist?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by longweekend58 on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:31pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:14pm:

But Mr Yay, you said:

Quote:

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

Brough was responsible for it, and Hockey was there guffawing at its contents.

Yep……and?

Kick ‘em out, I couldn’t care less. Pathetic schoolboy crap.

But not in anyway does that excuse PM Gillard’s mad ravings.

She sounds like the unhinged dam loops on here.

and where is your faux outrage about the comments about Rudd and Swan on the menu? oh of course.. sexism can be defined any way you wish over in leftie-land.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:33pm

Quote:

and where is your faux outrage about the comments about Rudd and Swan on the menu? oh of course.. sexism can be defined any way you wish over in leftie-land.

There was nothing sexist about the references to Swann and Rudd.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:34pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

[quote author=alevine link=1371003115/51#51 date=1371016718]

This menu means abortion will become the plaything of men?

I understand what your saying, but it is just too convenient to now, after the fact, say “see she’s right”.

This stupid menu had nothing to do with her desperate anti men conspiracy rant from the day before.

Her"conspiracy rant" was about good 'ol Tony and his mates like Brough and Hockey and their sexism, and Tony's beliefs on Abortion that he'd like us all to forget with newly crafted well written statements. I also don't mean to be right after the fact - I did say I disagreed with her yesterday, but today and this menu has really shown exactly what the Liberal Party are about. And given Tony's own crafted policy to keep women in the kitchen, his past statements on abortion and now this sexist menu from Brough and Hockey, how can't one feel like she's actually got a point?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:31pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:14pm:

But Mr Yay, you said:

Quote:

This menu thing is childish crap and those responsible should have no part in government/parliament.

Brough was responsible for it, and Hockey was there guffawing at its contents.

Yep……and?

Kick ‘em out, I couldn’t care less. Pathetic schoolboy crap.

But not in anyway does that excuse PM Gillard’s mad ravings.

She sounds like the unhinged dam loops on here.

and where is your faux outrage about the comments about Rudd and Swan on the menu? oh of course.. sexism can be defined any way you wish over in leftie-land.

Rudd is a goose because he is a male?

Really? That's what you're going with?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:38pm

What I can't stand here is the hypocrisy. You lefties didn't say that the Craig Thomson, Eddie Obeid/Ian MacDonald PR other incidents, like the Peta Credlin joke represented the labor party and its members at large. Yet with an incident like this, you make it seem as though it's endemic of the Liberal party and its members at large. Why is that? Why not just blame the individual who made the menu ?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:40pm

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:47pm:

I think that you're probably referring to Jason Clare, Fred.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Peter Freedman on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:41pm

It's amusing to watch the rightards wriggle whenever their lot does something stupid. They immediately go on the attack, changing the subject, putting the boot into the other side, anything rather than admit a Liberal could be at fault.

This menu act was dumb, sexist and politically stupid. All the Libs have to do is to keep their noses clean and they're home in September. But Brough had to be clever.........

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Neferti on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:42pm

To Alevine

You are The Goose for not replying to ONE post, rather than a whole weeks worth.

Learn how to actually quote what you are replying to. It is extremely irritating to see post upon post of crap and a "Oh I agree" at the end of it.

TRY it, it is easy and only involves a little bit of key work ... then try PREVIEW before hitting the button.

It will save a LOT of angst.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:43pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

You couldn't be referring to me.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by FriYAY on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:46pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:34pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

So you agree with this?

Do you think the Deputy opposition leader and the GG should be pissed off with her as well?

Her own party?

"It's a decision about whether once again we will banish women's voices from the core of our nation's political life. I invite you to imagine it: a prime minister - a man with a blue tie who goes on holidays to be replaced by a man in a blue tie."

"A treasurer who delivers a budget wearing a blue tie, to be supported by a finance minister, another man in a blue tie.

"Women once again, banished from the centre of Australia's political life."

Divisive crap is what she is peddling.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:46pm

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:38pm:

Actually I did talk about Peta Credlin joke, but the key difference here is that at least Swan didn't wait until it was headlines to retreat from the comments that were made. Here we have, dumbf**k Hockey and dumbf**k Brough sitting around pretending to not read a menu that surely would've been spoken about at their tables, given its "level of humour." They also of course don't say anything at the time, and more than likely my guess would be they joined in and have a bit of a giggle. Because it's funny to comment about women's breasts and thighs and body image. It's hilarious to be a man who is clearly lacking so much self esteem that they are the type to stand in the corner and giggle about all the girls in the room, and comment on them like a piece of meat. "I'd tap that." That's what Brough and Hockey are about. At least that's what they were about until it hit the headlines. And then quickly they run like little babies, their self esteem clearly visible for all of us. What pathetic individuals. Not fit for parliament.

So, okay, I'll agree with you that I shouldn't blame the Liberal Party at large. As a result, I'll expect to see Hockey resign and Brough withdraw. Otherwise if the Liberal Party supports these hacks then all I can say is that the Liberal Party and their leader must really agree with their sexist little giggles.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Neferti on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:51pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

This menu act was dumb, sexist and politically stupid. All the Libs have to do is to keep their noses clean and they're home in September. But Brought had to be clever.........

Kentucky fried Gillard? ;D She must know that she has a HUGE arse.

PS His name isn't Brought. Are you mentally challenged or just dyslexic? 8-)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:52pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:34pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

And yet quite supported by Tony and by the likes of Hockey and Brough.

And she has a point doesn't she?
Tony is PM, male. Gillard is PM, female.
Truss is Deputy Pm, male. Swan is Deputy PM.
Hockey is treasure, male. Swan is Treasurer.
Robb is Finance minister, male. Wong is Finance Minister.

2/4 is better than 0/4, right, and her point that women will be away from the central australian positions in that particular paragraph holds true, no? The only thing I'd say is Bishop with a Foreign Relations portfolio does stand up to be in a very central position in politics. But look at the Liberal Party and look at their SENIOR, CENTRAL positions, and ask yourself how many are filled by females, and how many by men? It's a tough little question of course as to whether this is because of the culture within the Liberal Party, or because of the experience of the women in the Liberal Party, and merely that the men hold more experience and are more "worthy." But when I speak of this, the interesting part to look at is that "worth" and "experience" are usually relativlly judged based on the culture within the organisation, and as a result it may very well go back to that. I'm not sauying it DOES, I don't 100% know, but I'm suggesting it is very well possible.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:54pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:38pm:

Actually, from what I remember about the Peta Credlin joke, Labor only talked about it after it had happened, and half the Ministers left after the joke was made and the other half remained.

Brought and Hockey probably did see the menu, but why exactly bring it up to the media? What purpose would that serve? And nothing suggests that they found it funny. It's not even original anyway, it's been on Facebook for a few years.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Neferti on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:55pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

blah blah ..... sexist little giggles.

Well said. Who does sexist little giggles better than Julia? ;D

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by longweekend58 on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:34pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:34pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

And yet quite supported by Tony and by the likes of Hockey and Brough.

And she has a point doesn't she?
Tony is PM, male. Gillard is PM, female.
Truss is Deputy Pm, male. Swan is Deputy PM.
Hockey is treasure, male. Swan is Treasurer.
Robb is Finance minister, male. Wong is Finance Minister.

2/4 is better than 0/4, right, and her point that women will be away from the central australian positions in that particular paragraph holds true, no? The only thing I'd say is Bishop with a Foreign Relations portfolio does stand up to be in a very central position in politics. But look at the Liberal Party and look at their SENIOR, CENTRAL positions, and ask yourself how many are filled by females, and how many by men? It's a tough little question of course as to whether this is because of the culture within the Liberal Party, or because of the experience of the women in the Liberal Party, and merely that the men hold more experience and are more "worthy." But when I speak of this, the interesting part to look at is that "worth" and "experience" are usually relativlly judged based on the culture within the organisation, and as a result it
may very well go back to that. I'm not sauying it DOES, I don't 100% know, but I'm suggesting it is very well possible.

Why worry about the ratios at all? Best person for the job iMO. I couldn't care lesswhether it's 4 men, 4 women or anything in between. Merit is key, gender is discrimination.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:57pm

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

You couldn't be referring to me.

Of course they couldn't, Matty. Your stance on women's issues is well known to the members of this board.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:57pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:34pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

Lol, you have to ask, what is Wong?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:46pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:34pm:

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

And yet quite supported by Tony and by the likes of Hockey and Brough.

And she has a point doesn't she?
Tony is PM, male. Gillard is PM, female.
Truss is Deputy Pm, male. Swan is Deputy PM.
Hockey is treasure, male. Swan is Treasurer.
Robb is Finance minister, male. Wong is Finance Minister.

2/4 is better than 0/4, right, and her point that women will be away from the central australian positions in that particular paragraph holds true, no? The only thing I'd say is Bishop with a Foreign Relations portfolio does stand up to be in a very central position in politics. But look at the Liberal Party and look at their SENIOR, CENTRAL positions, and ask yourself how many are filled by females, and how many by men? It's a tough little question of course as to whether this is because of the culture within the Liberal Party, or because of the experience of the women in the Liberal Party, and merely that the men hold more experience and are more "worthy." But when I speak of this, the interesting part to look at is that "worth" and "experience" are usually relativlly judged based on the culture within the organisation, and as a result it
may very well go back to that. I'm not sauying it DOES, I don't 100% know, but I'm suggesting it is very well possible.

Why worry about the ratios at all? Best person for the job iMO. I couldn't care lesswhether it's 4 men, 4 women or anything in between. Merit is key, gender is discrimination.

True, Matty, but surely you agree on a dress code of some kind?

PLEASE EXPLAIN.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

Typical from someone with obvious misgivings of their own. Let me guess, gay men are female. Lesbians are men. You should share those comments with Hockey, Tony and Brough - it would be a fun filled night of masterfully crafted jokes.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Neferti on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:06pm

THIS is exactly what I mean. Old Cocks who know nothing about computer etiquette and they copy post upon post instead of EDITING it to what they are replying to. Remember the [ ] with the word quote between the brackets? Then delete the crap and add [ ] with /quote between the brackets to end the quote? THEN type what you have to say and use the PREVIEW to see what will be posted (and to correct any spelling mistakes).

It is for your own good.

IF you have something to say that YOU think is IMPORTANT you do NOT need to QUOTE the entire thread. IT IS EXTREMELY ANNOYING.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Neferti on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:10pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

That is about the stupidest thing I have ever read on a Political Forum.

Are you GAY?
Are you married?
Are you sad?
Is Life not good for you?

Will you still vote ALP? ;D

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:11pm

Neferti wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:10pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

That is about the stupidest thing I have ever read on a Political Forum.

Are you GAY? No
Are you married? No
Are you sad? No
Is Life not good for you? No

Will you still vote ALP? ;D No

:)
You're making me turn into Tony, stop it ;)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:12pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

How surprising that you should ignore my post. ::)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:15pm

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

How surprising that you should ignore my post. ::)

I already answered your post, it's not my fault that you like to rehash the same theme over and over when I've already told everyone on this forum my opinion of it. So please, less worrying about this forum matty and more trying to run your campaign. Your efforts need to be better spent in areas that actually matter! I know you're facing a vile leftard, but it won't be won sitting back on this forum, let me assure you. Those leftards are tricky things.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:20pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

How surprising that you should ignore my post. ::)

See posts 73 and 76.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:22pm

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:20pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

How surprising that you should ignore my post. ::)

See posts 73 and 76. See post 73. And use your brain, as best as you can. :)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:26pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

I agree, Alevine. These leftards just can't take a joke.

Pathetic. As usual.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Jasignature on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:27pm

Gillard is so obvious with her 'dying swan' acts of being victimised my sexism because she is ...a woman PM and not just 'any' woman - but the 1st WOMAN Prime Minister of OZ ...sorry, 'Australia' for the subserviant Anglo-Saxons to their British brethren.

Reckon she paid someone to orchastrate this to once again make Abbott look like a sexist.
Its the only 'winning card' she has to play with.

Just about every woman I know hates Gillard for this reason.
"A pure embarressment!" is the usual quote.
I think Gillard is a disgusting act of Feminism that exploits Sexism for her personal gain.
I never liked Pauline Hanson and I dislike Gillard even more! :P

...I remember being a male Nurse and having Gay Male Nurses trying to antagonise me into discriminating against them in some way. They were obviously unsettled by a male who could Medically 'CARE' without having to act like a woman, let alone love his fellow 'mates' without sexually assaulting their anus's in a most un-hygenic way. :P

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:28pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:26pm:

I agree, Alevine. These leftards just can't take a joke.

Pathetic. As usual.

I'd say Longie would make a wonderfull director of communications for matty. What do you think, Karnal?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:28pm

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

How surprising that you should ignore my post. ::)

Matty, please address post #79.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:29pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:26pm:

I agree, Alevine. These leftards just can't take a joke.

Pathetic. As usual.

I'd say Longie would make a wonderfull director of communications for matty. What do you think, Karnal?

I hadn't thought of that. For the campaign, you mean?

I'll need to give this some thought.

There's another member here with some promise - Phallic Baldwin.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:30pm

:'(
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:22pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:20pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

How surprising that you should ignore my post. ::)

See posts 73 and 76. See post 73. And use your brain, as best as you can. :)

I knew that you wouldn't be able to refute it.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Peter Freedman on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:30pm

Neferti wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:41pm:

This menu act was dumb, sexist and politically stupid. All the Libs have to do is to keep their noses clean and they're home in September. But Brought had to be clever.........

Kentucky fried Gillard? ;D She must know that she has a HUGE arse.

PS His name isn't Brought. Are you mentally challenged or just dyslexic? 8-)

Are you offensive or just rude? It was a typo and has now been corrected. Though given Brough's behaviour, maybe it was a Freudian slip?

You seem so keen to give others unwanted advice, let me return the favour.

Don't become the grammar or typo Nazi. The only person you are belittling is yourself.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:32pm

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

:'(
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:22pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:20pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

How surprising that you should ignore my post. ::)

See posts 73 and 76. See post 73. And use your brain, as best as you can. :)

I knew that you wouldn't be able to refute it.

Please address post #77, Matty. We require your thoughts on this one as well.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:36pm

Don't listen to them, Matty.

They make my blood boil, they really do.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:38pm

The story is a dud rubber designed to get the hand wringers hands wringing, and the wowsers wowsing.
If a male comedian had used some of those menu descriptors in his routine, it may have gotten a few laughs from the audience.
Sure it's inappropriate, but no more inappropriate than the country being led by an incompetent dunderclumper.
And it should be quite obvious to all and sundry that Juliar has only a little in common with a Kentucky fried quail with small breasts and large thighs.
She more a Kentucky fried prawn.
All the meats in the rear, and the crap's in the head.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:41pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

I hadn't thought of that. For the campaign, you mean?

I'll need to give this some thought.

There's another member here with some promise - Phallic Baldwin.

Thoughts?

Mmmm, but Phallic Baldwin doesn't have longie's panazz... I mean to call Wong a male...because she is a lesbian. It's pure brilliance.

Do you really think anyone can beat that type of smart thinking?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:41pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:38pm:

Good point, CL. Who do you see as an alternative leader of this country?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Jasignature on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:42pm

Well said Chicken_lipsforme. :)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:42pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

:'(
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:22pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:20pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

How surprising that you should ignore my post. ::)

See posts 73 and 76. See post 73. And use your brain, as best as you can. :)

I knew that you wouldn't be able to refute it.

Please address post #77, Matty. We require your thoughts on this one as well.

and I'd also like to be inspired with Matty's thoughts on post 68.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:43pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:38pm:

Sorry, I really do have to disagree. I think it's high time to do away with such casual sexism, and hence I do feel this is quite an important issue. Especially when it clearly shows the level of thinking within the Liberal Party where they would make fun of Rudd on a decision making capacity, but make fun of Gillard based on her physical attributes. It's high time this type of thinking of appropriateness and "comedian humour" was ended. And also especially since it was treated as a humerous joke from a comedian, only until it became headline news.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by philperth2010 on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:44pm

It goes to show some people in the Liberal Party have NFI.....Surely someone must have objected to the menu for it to become public.....Mal Brough has done himself no favours despite his denials.....I wonder who it was that thought it was a good idea???

::) ::) ::)

A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he resents.
Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:45pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

I hadn't thought of that. For the campaign, you mean?

I'll need to give this some thought.

There's another member here with some promise - Phallic Baldwin.

Thoughts?

Woof Woof can be quite clever - when she applies herself. Most of the time she just sucks up to Matty.

Another Matty hanger-on.

You might remember the economist from Canberra, Shane B. I'm not sure what happened to her. She was quite smart. If I recall, she had a PhD in economics.

Some of the leftards think they're smart, but they're just smarmy smarty-pants, the lot of them.

Personally, I find them all hideous.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by matty on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:46pm

Also, what about the comments made about Abbott's budgie smugglers? Okay to make fun of a man's anatomy, but not a woman'?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:48pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:42pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

:'(
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:22pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:20pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:12pm:

How surprising that you should ignore my post. ::)

See posts 73 and 76. See post 73. And use your brain, as best as you can. :)

I knew that you wouldn't be able to refute it.

Please address post #77, Matty. We require your thoughts on this one as well.

and I'd also like to be inspired with Matty's thoughts on post 68.

I agree. I should write that one down.

Food for thought, eh?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Datalife on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:50pm

FriYAY wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 3:56pm:

Gillard’s comments were dumb, the menu was dumb.

Perzactly. And Libs should be looking at abso-bloody-lutely everything and asking, how will this look when (not if) it hits the media.

Talk about an own goal.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:51pm

Mr Perth:

Quote:

Surely someone must have objected to the menu for it to become public.....

Your wish is my command.

Quote:

A former worker at the venue where the function was held said he released the menu on Twitter last night after he was upset by comments Joe Hockey made about abortion.

The worker said he first saw the menu when it was posted by a co-worker on Facebook. "I was just absolutely shocked,'' he said of his reaction.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:51pm

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:46pm:

Also, what about the comments made about Abbott's budgie smugglers? Okay to make fun of a man's anatomy, but not a woman'?

Good point, Matty. Describing a man like Mr Abbott as a trafficker in native wildlife is nothing more than libel. I've a good mind to report this one to the moderator if I see it again.

Sometimes the fun can go too far.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:52pm

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:46pm:

Also, what about the comments made about Abbott's budgie smugglers? Okay to make fun of a man's anatomy, but not a woman'?

Yes matty, these leftards wouldn't know good fashion if it hit them on the head!

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:53pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:38pm:

Good point, CL. Who do you see as an alternative leader of this country?

Bob Katter actually.
Apart from some very good policies, he is actually seen to be more inappropriate and tasteless by the lefties than Tony Abbott which I know is hard to believe, and I know that he would rub them up the wrong way and wouldn't give a toss about doing it.
However, seeing as there is no chance of the man in the hat leading the country, Abbott will have to do.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:54pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

I hadn't thought of that. For the campaign, you mean?

I'll need to give this some thought.

There's another member here with some promise - Phallic Baldwin.

Thoughts?

Yes, because they can't appreciate such wonderful humour as a fried chicken with short breasts and big thighs. They have no funny bone, these vile leftards!

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Jasignature on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:54pm

Gillard's ANTI-CHILDREN/Career Woman attitude is to denounce Family Man Abbott as an ignorant Australian
- because she IMPORTS children via Boats from overseas instead.

She is a corruption to Feminism
like Gays are to Celibacy.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:55pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:52pm:

matty wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:46pm:

Also, what about the comments made about Abbott's budgie smugglers? Okay to make fun of a man's anatomy, but not a woman'?

Yes matty, these leftards wouldn't know good fashion if it hit them on the head!

Exactly. Look at those jackets they dress up their idol, JuLiar in. I wouldn't dress my dog in one of those.

It would be good if Matty addressed the dress code question. I do think our parliamentarians should dress the part.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:56pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

I hadn't thought of that. For the campaign, you mean?

I'll need to give this some thought.

There's another member here with some promise - Phallic Baldwin.

Thoughts?

Yes, because they can't appreciate such wonderful humour as a fried chicken with short breasts and big thighs. They have no funny bone, these vile leftards!

Pathetic, just pathetic.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:59pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:54pm:

That's right, Jaisignature. JuLiar thinks she's so smart.

Let's watch Mr Abbott put a stop to JuLiar's little children-smuggling operation. Let's face it - it's nothing more than child slavery.

Only Mr Abbott can stop the boats.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:00pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

I hadn't thought of that. For the campaign, you mean?

I'll need to give this some thought.

There's another member here with some promise - Phallic Baldwin.

Thoughts?

Yes, because they can't appreciate such wonderful humour as a fried chicken with short breasts and big thighs. They have no funny bone, these vile leftards!

Ha! Sounds like JuLiar to me!

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:02pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:38pm:

Good point, CL. Who do you see as an alternative leader of this country?

Yes, but you haven't included people currently outside the parliament, including those without seats yet.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:02pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

I hadn't thought of that. For the campaign, you mean?

I'll need to give this some thought.

There's another member here with some promise - Phallic Baldwin.

Thoughts?

Yes, because they can't appreciate such wonderful humour as a fried chicken with short breasts and big thighs. They have no funny bone, these vile leftards!

Ha! Sounds like JuLiar to me!

oh and of course, the highlight of the "big red box." How could I forget. I mean, Karnal, that's pretty funny. How can these leftards not see its humour?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by philperth2010 on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:51pm:

Mr Perth:

Quote:

Surely someone must have objected to the menu for it to become public.....

Your wish is my command.

[quote]

A former worker at the venue where the function was held said he released the menu on Twitter last night after he was upset by comments Joe Hockey made about abortion.

The worker said he first saw the menu when it was posted by a co-worker on Facebook. "I was just absolutely shocked,'' he said of his reaction.

[/quote]

Thanks!!!

:) :) :)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Big Dave on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:08pm

She just announced on the news that liberal party members made fun of her dad dying. That's awful if true. BUT the prime minister should worry about her parties performance and keep the personal stuff out of the public sphere. It's just deflecting from her unpopularity and disdain for her crappy party. Dirty and low politics.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:09pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:29pm:

I hadn't thought of that. For the campaign, you mean?

I'll need to give this some thought.

There's another member here with some promise - Phallic Baldwin.

Thoughts?

Yes, because they can't appreciate such wonderful humour as a fried chicken with short breasts and big thighs. They have no funny bone, these vile leftards!

Ha! Sounds like JuLiar to me!

oh and of course, the highlight of the "big red box." How could I forget. I mean, Karnal, that's pretty funny. How can these leftards not see its humour?

I have no idea, but alleging that an animal welfare advocate like Mr Abbott would smuggle birds in his swimwear is beyond the pail.

How utterly contemptuous.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Neferti on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:11pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

The only person you are belittling is yourself.

I doubt it. You already proved that you are an effwit,

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:12pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:09pm:

[quote author=alevine link=1371003115/119#119 date=1371024175]

I have no idea, but alleging that an animal welfare advocate like Mr Abbott would smuggle birds in his swimwear is beyond the pail.

How utterly contemptuous.

They have nothing Karnal. Into the chaff bag, the lot of them!

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:13pm

Big Dave

Yes and Gillard is very very believable ?????

If all that is left is this dumb women's weekly type politics, the ALP are truly doomed.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:17pm

Big Dave wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:08pm:

Agreed, Big Dave. The woman should come out and acknowledge the part she played in her father’s death.

But no, she chooses instead to hit below the belt.

SHAME LABOR SHAME.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Big Dave on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:19pm

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:13pm:

Big Dave

Yes and Gillard is very very believable ?????

If all that is left is this dumb women's weekly type politics, the ALP are truly doomed.

It's a pity it's come to this rightsadfred. I want to see her make a press announcement detailing how she's going to stop the boat people death and money drain. Job security, hospitals. I'd even like to see her announce that old people are going to get a pension increase. I don't want to see this he said she said BS. It's belittles us.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:20pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:09pm:

They have nothing Karnal. Into the chaff bag, the lot of them!

Oh, they will be, Alevine, I can assure you.

They won’t be laughing when Mr Abbott gets in!

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Big Dave on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:23pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

[quote author=Big_Dave link=1371003115/121#121 date=1371024520]She just announced on the news that liberal party members made fun of her dad dying. That's awful if true. BUT the prime minister should worry about her parties performance and keep the personal stuff out of the public sphere. It's just deflecting from her unpopularity and disdain for her crappy party. Dirty and low politics.

Agreed, Big Dave. The woman should come out and acknowledge the part she played in her father’s death.

But no, she chooses instead to hit below the belt.

SHAME LABOR SHAME. [/quote I heard she poisoned him Karnal. For the sympathy vote.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:26pm

Big Dave

Gillard is her own worse enemy.

She is liar and a hypocrite at the same time....... she carries on about personal politics and then attacks Abbott personally denying him to have an opinion about a topic and suggesting he has done things that Gillard and her handbag brigade can not identify.

Religion is not my thing but the vast majority are religious and are perfectly entitled to have an opinion about Abortion..... males and females for that matter, I find her both incredibly hypocritical and a bigger sexist than anyone in the parliament, she can't even get her gutter women's weekly politics right, what would suggest to anyone that she is capable of handling any real issue. ?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by adelcrow on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:28pm

Bob Browns Bitch should stop the name calling and hang her head in shame for causing the death of her father.
Jewliar should take a leaf out of Mr Abbotts book and carry herself with the same dignity and aplomb that he has always displayed

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Big Dave on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:31pm

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:26pm:

I'm with you mate. I hope Abbott does the right thing for all Australians. Cheers mate.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:31pm

Big Dave wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:13pm:

Big Dave

Yes and Gillard is very very believable ?????

If all that is left is this dumb women's weekly type politics, the ALP are truly doomed.

Yet another pension increase?

And one should point out that in a true libertarian society the onus of job security is on the individual and the market, not on the government. Isn't it amazing how here we have all these people screaming smaller government, smaller governmetn, and in the same breath are relying their job security on the government?

The rest I would actually agree with you, I too would like to see Gillard act on her currently poor refugee policy - probably differently to how you'd like to see her act, but nonetheless there is agreeance there. The trouble is, she does make a valid point, does she not?

Male Prime Minister. Male Deputy Prime Minister. Male Treasurer. Male Education Minister. Male Health Minister. Female Foreign Affairs Minister. Male Immigration Minister. Male Defence Minister. Male Leader of the Senate. Male Human Services Minister. Male Attorney General. Male Climate Change Minister. Male, and slightly off-the-mark, Regional Development Minister. Male Communications Minister. Female Innovation, Industry and Science Minister.

That's the Tony Ministry. At least the senior positions. You don't see a problem with this? Our government is meant to be a representation of us, and here we have the VAST majority of his ministry to be male.

then we move on to his traditional view of maternity. Need we talk about it, or like the rest here, will you simply ignore the point that his maternity leave scheme, given its only for women (or at least that's what his policy currently states), guarantees that the family decision of who stays home with the child is determined by Tony, and not by the family? And then his gaffes. And then this menu.

I'd love to see Gillard talk about other issues. The problem is sexism in the Tony camp seems to be running around quite unchecked. And a good society debates problems within the society.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by red baron on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:32pm

Whilst unsavoury, the dinner menu is the stuff of childish pranks.

Now if only Gillard could get as passionate about the direction this Country is headed maybe we wouldn't be in the bloody awful mess we are in.

Has she got anything to say about how her Government have us 200 billion dollars in debt to the Chinese..No you won't find that one on the menu.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:34pm

red baron wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Not $300 billion? I have something to say: Big Dave says thank you to the Chinese for giving him the job security he wants his government to look after for him. :)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:35pm

Big Dave wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:13pm:

Big Dave

Yes and Gillard is very very believable ?????

If all that is left is this dumb women's weekly type politics, the ALP are truly doomed.

Yes, this is just what the leftards want to hear, Big Dave. More big spending. More Labor waste.

Mr Abbott will put a stop to it all, don’t you worry about that.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:36pm

red baron wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Hear hear.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:37pm

red baron wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Go start a Thread (...or find an existing one) on those issues. This one is about what seems to be endemic, entrenched sexism within the Liberal Party.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by philperth2010 on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:37pm

Quote:

Opposition treasury spokesman Joe Hockey was the guest of honour at the event, but said he could not recall seeing the menu.

I wonder if Hockey remembers what he ate???

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by longweekend58 on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:41pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

you can be a humourless weirdo. try getting the light-hearted joke on occasion or find someone to explain it to you.

Wong is deadest ugly and has a very masculine look. Pretty much nobody even disagrees with that.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:41pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

Quote:

Opposition treasury spokesman Joe Hockey was the guest of honour at the event, but said he could not recall seeing the menu.

I wonder if Hockey remembers what he ate???

::) ::) ::)

How could he? He and Brough didn't look at the menu. They starved. It's the only sensible conclusion one can make. As they didn't look at the menu. Nor discuss the menu with anyone their table. in fact, they just sat with eachother at the very end in a dark corner, and kept to themselves the whole night.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

I actually find Wong to be a very attractive person. Both outwards and inwards.

And it isn't funny, if it isn't funny. Especially when once again you're missing the point being made, and instead are continuing on your diatribe that Gillard has insulted all men.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:43pm

Big Dave wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:31pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:26pm:

I'm with you mate. I hope Abbott does the right thing for all Australians. Cheers mate.

He will, Big Dave. Just look at the state this country’s in - JuLiar should be on trial, not swanning around in those hideous jackets.

Good luck hoping she’ll address the real issues. Dream on, Dave.

The woman can’t even get her colours right. Blue and green?

Unbelievable.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by adelcrow on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:44pm

Holger said it for all of us "Women should shut up in public"..bravo Holger

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Maqqa on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:44pm

I love it...

The Party behind in the polls need the electorate to
(1) Stop listening to the Opposition
(2) Start listening to it's messages

Right now Gillard's behind in the polls and no one is listening to anyone

The only 3 message in the electorate at the moment are:
(1) Stop the boat - anti-Labor
(2) Carbon Tax - anti-Labor
(3) Deficits - anti-Labor

There is nothing out there at the moment that's hurting Abbott

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:48pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

I can’t recall ever seeing her in a skirt. Not once. I can’t imagine she’s shave her armpits either.

Disgusting. And this is our finance minister?

The only thing I’d order from her is chicken chow mein.

Chop chop.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:48pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:51pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

red baron wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Go start a Thread (...or find an existing one) on those issues. This one is about what seems to be endemic, entrenched sexism within the Liberal Party.

Can any one list the number of Liberal women in Australian politics who have held top jobs in Parliament. When you have failed, you will see another clear demonstration in proof that Liberals suppress women.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:55pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

red baron wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Go start a Thread (...or find an existing one) on those issues. This one is about what seems to be endemic, entrenched sexism within the Liberal Party.

Vanstone and Bishop. That's all who I can think of.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Big Dave on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:55pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

Penny Wong. She'd have hairier armpits than that sheila her sang 99 luft balloons. There should be a law against being butch in parliment.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:58pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:37pm:

red baron wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Go start a Thread (...or find an existing one) on those issues. This one is about what seems to be endemic, entrenched sexism within the Liberal Party.

There certainly is something quite clear here Aussie.
There are also no aliens in the Coalition either.
Obviously a clear demonstration in proof that Liberals suppress aliens.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:00pm

Quote:

There certainly is something quite clear here Aussie.
There are also no aliens in the Coalition either.
Obviously a clear demonstration in proof that Liberals suppress aliens.

That's pretty silly Mr Forme. There are no aliens in the ALP either.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:00pm

Excuse me, Ms Vanstone stopped the boats. Can anyone tell me what JuLiar’s done for this country?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:01pm

Excuse me, Ms Vanstone stopped the boats. Can anyone tell me what JuLiar’s done for this country?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:01pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:37pm:

How do you know it was not just some immature prat with bad taste and a poor sense of humour in charge of "menus"?

I reserve my judgement there, for now.
I agree 100% with what Abbott said about it.
Not the added lies from Gillard today, which can be confirmed by history and a quick google of the facts.

As for Gillard, she read the bloody thing. Immature, desperate, poor judgement, psycho written all over it.

hey the ABC News leads with what story... the anti-Abbott one... how unusual for Aunty.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:03pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:01pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 12:37pm:

And the Australian did not publish it until they could use "Abbott" in the headlines as much as possible.

Despite who made the menus, the point remains that Brough and Hockey were very well okay with them, and didn't utter a word until it was necessary to to safe face. They should both piss off because this speaks more of them than anything else. The intentions are clear. If they claim they didn't see the menus, or talk about menus DESIGNED for conversation, then they are clearly lying. And if their lying then it suggests they know they utterly f**ked up. But they actually f**ked up the moment they sat down and had their giggle.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:05pm

Quote:

Penny Wong. She'd have hairier armpits than that sheila her sang 99 luft balloons. There should be a law against being butch in parliment.

oi... lay off Penny. I like her. She is one of the sane ALP members. She, like Abbott, sticks to the party line, but she isn't a waste of space like so many in the ALP at the moment.

Please post an image to proove your assumptions.. and I do mean ass-umptions.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:06pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:05pm:

Quote:

Penny Wong. She'd have hairier armpits than that sheila her sang 99 luft balloons. There should be a law against being butch in parliment.

Hear Hear on Penny Wong. A very classy and smart individual.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:07pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:00pm:

Quote:

There certainly is something quite clear here Aussie.
There are also no aliens in the Coalition either.
Obviously a clear demonstration in proof that Liberals suppress aliens.

That's pretty silly Mr Forme. There are no aliens in the ALP either.

Chows don’t count? I know what four-legged pets Penny Wong would like to see on the menu.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:07pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:00pm:

Quote:

There certainly is something quite clear here Aussie.
There are also no aliens in the Coalition either.
Obviously a clear demonstration in proof that Liberals suppress aliens.

That's pretty silly Mr Forme. There are no aliens in the ALP either.

Chows don’t count? I know what four-legged pets Penny Wong would like to see on the menu.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:08pm

Quote:

Despite who made the menus, the point remains that Brough and Hockey were very well okay with them, and didn't utter a word until it was necessary to to safe face. They should both piss off because this speaks more of them than anything else. The intentions are clear. If they claim they didn't see the menus, or talk about menus DESIGNED for conversation, then they are clearly lying. And if their lying then it suggests they know they utterly f**ked up. But they actually f**ked up the moment they sat down and had their giggle.

really?

Hockey denies seeing them.
Hockey denies remembering them.
Brough apologised for them being their but denies organising them.
All so far completely plausible.

How many were there.
Did everyone receive one.
Why would a mature person even care about them.

I'd sack the dolt responsible. easy peasy.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:10pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:05pm:

Quote:

Penny Wong. She'd have hairier armpits than that sheila her sang 99 luft balloons. There should be a law against being butch in parliment.

Hear Hear on Penny Wong. A very classy and smart individual.

Penny is the only one I'd put forward for PM.
The rest are losers.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:13pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:08pm:

Quote:

It's all very plausible. Just like it's plausible that North Korea will become a democracy tomorrow.

And a mature person would point it out for what it is and make a stand against it.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:13pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:10pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:05pm:

Quote:

Penny Wong. She'd have hairier armpits than that sheila her sang 99 luft balloons. There should be a law against being butch in parliment.

Hear Hear on Penny Wong. A very classy and smart individual.

Penny is the only one I'd put forward for PM.
The rest are losers.

I'd almost agree but I also have a soft spot for Albanese and Combet.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:14pm

sorry site glitch

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:15pm

No alevine that is a ridiculous comparison.

There is a difference between possible and plausible.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:16pm

You have bad taste in men and politicians it seems alevine.

I can't post what I think of Albanese.
Combet is getting just as bad.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:17pm

Quote:

Hockey denies seeing them.
Hockey denies remembering them.

Wonder what he ordered his meal from?

Quote:

Brough apologised for them being their but denies organising them.

It was HIS function, HIS fundraiser, and HIS responsibility to check the menu.

Quote:

All so far completely plausible.

You really must not allow your political bias to permeate what you post.

Quote:

How many were there.
Did everyone receive one.

If I was paying $1000 to be there, I'd expect a Menu for myself right adjacent to my place name on the table in front of where I sat.

Quote:

Why would a mature person even care about them.

Because they are grossly offensive, and sexist, as Mr Abbott has confirmed.....after the event.

Quote:

I'd sack the dolt responsible. easy peasy.

I'm fine with that. Bye bye, Mal Brough.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:25pm

Quote:

Mr Brough has apologised and says the menu was written by a non-party member who thought it would be "humorous" but is now "deeply apologetic".

The Liberal National Party has released a statement saying the "content of the menu card was absolutely unacceptable and has no place at any LNP event."

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has also condemned it, but says it should "absolutely not" cast doubt on Mr Brough's pre-selection for the Sunshine Coast seat of Fisher.

"I think we should all be bigger and better than that; whether it's a tacky, scatological menu out the front of a Liberal Party event, whether it's squalid jokes told at union conference dinners with ministers present," the Opposition Leader said.

"Whatever it is, I think we should be better than that. I think we should be appealing to every Australian's best self as we go into this election."

We all know Labor are being hypocritical when it comes to this sort of thing.

Funny Emerson knew who leaked it and it was leaked months after it occurred almost the next day after Julia's rant. hmmm... 8-)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:28pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:15pm:

No alevine that is a ridiculous comparison.

There is a difference between possible and plausible.

Yes youre right. I retract then, it isn't playsible for reasons outline before, best by aussie

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:29pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:25pm:

Quote:

And funny it took headlines to see the denials come in.

And it's vastly different given that the jokes at the labor conference were condemned without it reaching headlines first.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:30pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:15pm:

No alevine that is a ridiculous comparison.

There is a difference between possible and plausible.

Yes youre right. I retract then, it isn't playsible for reasons outline before, best by aussie

Well he's wrong as usual, but I don't reply to him as he's a world class liar.

Never been to an organisation dinner I'd say.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:34pm

Quote:

And funny it took headlines to see the denials come in.

And it's vastly different given that the jokes at the labor conference were condemned without it reaching headlines first.

Why?
Harder to see if they are not headlines.
My opinion... the press kept beating it up so they had to respond.

Vastly different? What? what Labor conference?
what jokes?

I think you will find in a mostly LW media Labor are give a great deal of lassitude.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Dnarever on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:37pm

I suspect Abbott can't do anything about it.

More than likely Mal knows how Tony was involved in the Ashby put up job.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:37pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:15pm:

No alevine that is a ridiculous comparison.

There is a difference between possible and plausible.

Yes youre right. I retract then, it isn't playsible for reasons outline before, best by aussie

Well he's wrong as usual, but I don't reply to him as he's a world class liar.

Never been to an organisation dinner I'd say.

I've never been to a political party fundraiser but the organized events I've been too have always had one menu per seat. And not only that, but when you look at the menu it is highly likely to discuss the items with people on the table. Especially such a hilarious menu as this one. I'd accept the explanation by hockey and brough if it was one menu for the whole establishment and they didn't eat. Highly unlikely. If it was a pamphlet, maybe. But a menu? No way.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:39pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:37pm:

I suspect Abbott can't do anything about it.

More than likely Mal knows how Tony was involved in the Ashby put up job.

you better rush to the media then since you not only have proof no one else does you can prove your libel.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:40pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:15pm:

No alevine that is a ridiculous comparison.

There is a difference between possible and plausible.

Yes youre right. I retract then, it isn't playsible for reasons outline before, best by aussie

Well he's wrong as usual, but I don't reply to him as he's a world class liar.

Never been to an organisation dinner I'd say.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:41pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:37pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:15pm:

No alevine that is a ridiculous comparison.

There is a difference between possible and plausible.

Yes youre right. I retract then, it isn't playsible for reasons outline before, best by aussie

Well he's wrong as usual, but I don't reply to him as he's a world class liar.

Never been to an organisation dinner I'd say.

So are you now telling me you were there or at least know how things were arranged.

My experience has been that menus are not required due to there being a set menu.
Also the menu in question as I have recently posted was written by a non-party-member who thought it'd be funny.
Which may have occurred completely outside any party control.
Again all completely plausible.
Happy to condemn when the proof is in.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:43pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:34pm:

Quote:

And funny it took headlines to see the denials come in.

And it's vastly different given that the jokes at the labor conference were condemned without it reaching headlines first.

I think you'll find that the media is run by mostly rw editors.

And Im speaking of the hypocrisy you are claiming.

And it's important because it shows people simply trying to cover up their screw up as opposed to being genuinely disgusted themselves and genuinely against the sexist remarks.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:45pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:37pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:15pm:

No alevine that is a ridiculous comparison.

There is a difference between possible and plausible.

Yes youre right. I retract then, it isn't playsible for reasons outline before, best by aussie

Well he's wrong as usual, but I don't reply to him as he's a world class liar.

Never been to an organisation dinner I'd say.

It is a menu of choices. Set menus have specified choice, and even then a menu is presented per seat.

Point stands. Hockey mustnt have eaten, or sat at his table.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Dnarever on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:53pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:37pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:15pm:

No alevine that is a ridiculous comparison.

There is a difference between possible and plausible.

Yes youre right. I retract then, it isn't playsible for reasons outline before, best by aussie

Well he's wrong as usual, but I don't reply to him as he's a world class liar.

Never been to an organisation dinner I'd say.

My experience has been that menus are not required due to there being a set menu.

Rubbish - everything is vetted and approved by the organisers.

written by a non-party-member

Extremely unlikely.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Dnarever on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:58pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:41pm:

My experience has been that menus are not required due to there being a set menu.

Never had vagina served from a set menu, You obviously have more luck than me.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:58pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:41pm:

My experience has been that menus are not required due to there being a set menu.

Never had vagina served from a set menu, You obviously have more luck than me.

never required a menu when it was set ::) ::) ::)

The desperation of LW progs and gillard and her mob to make something out of this is truly pathetic... not to mention totally hypocritical.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:14pm

In the words of kevin Rudd... I think you all need to have a long cold shower over this, until we really know what happened.

meanwhile Julia can get her act together and stop acting like a troppo misandrist.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:16pm

Oh the plot thickens. The owner of the Restaurant says it was just a dummy menu. Wow, this owner will be a Liberal Party hack, and that is why the function was held there, or is someone gonna tell me that Brough held his $1000 per person LNP fundraiser at a restaurant owner by an ALP supporter?

Yeah, right. Wonder what Brough was busy apologising all day for? If it was just a one off dummy, that would have been the very first thing stated by Brough.

I expect certain ex-restaurant staff Members to be heard from soon enough.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:18pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

Heard this as well. Also interesting how a one of dummy got into the hands of a leaker. And it was "light hearted joking".

Your point is accurate. Brough could've said instantly it was a dummy but instead decides to go with his "I didn't see it".

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by miketrees on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:20pm

What a load of rubbish

I have three women in my house, they have no problem with the menu.

But there again they are mature intelligent women that are not facing political oblivion in a few months time.

This over offended labor people stunt will just make (if its possible) labor look even more stupid.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:22pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

.....and then....apologising for it.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Alec Trevelyan on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:24pm

Still wont change the outcome of the election.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:29pm

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

Still wont change the outcome of the election.

Not by itself.....but living as I do among the blue rinse Liberals in Fisher, I can tell you that Mr Brough is in some sh1tn over this, on top of the Ashby/Slipper stuff. His endorsement is in jeopardy at grass roots Branch Member level. They do not need Brough as their endorsed candidate. They could endorse anyone uncontroversial, and the LNP would still hold Fisher. They are tiring of the Slipper/Brough legacy.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:38pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-12/mal-brough-says-sorry-for-menu-jibe-at-gillard/4748516

Hard to be a LNP hack when not a member of the party.

This is just desperation time for the PROGS. They'll latch onto anything whilst the Titanic is going down

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by progressiveslol on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:41pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:37pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:28pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:15pm:

No alevine that is a ridiculous comparison.

There is a difference between possible and plausible.

Yes youre right. I retract then, it isn't playsible for reasons outline before, best by aussie

Well he's wrong as usual, but I don't reply to him as he's a world class liar.

Never been to an organisation dinner I'd say.

My experience has been that menus are not required due to there being a set menu.

Rubbish - everything is vetted and approved by the organisers.

written by a non-party-member

Extremely unlikely.

It certainly wasnt said by the leader of the opposition. You twits have nothing. Gillard is a sexist feninazi fabian experiment gone wrong

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:06pm

"The amazing twist comes after Mal Brough had earlier apologised for the menu, while Opposition leader Tony Abbott condemned it.

Mr Brough told the ABC earlier that the menu was drawn up by a non-party member who thought it would be "humorous" and "didn't mean any harm by it," but is now "deeply apologetic".

The former Howard government minister insisted he could not recall seeing the menu at the event for 20 people, held on March 28."

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:11pm

exactly so...
now the Uber dummies here can apologise or slink away

Quote:

The chairman of the restaurant which held the fundraiser says the menu was a private joke and Bough did not see it:

Dear Mal,

I have been following the rubbish that has been on the news today. I would like to confirm what actually happened: there were never any menus distributed on the tables or in the restaurant. I created a mock menu myself as a light-hearted joke, however as I said I never produced them for public distribution. Unfortunately a staff member saw the mock menu, and unbeknownst to myself, posted it on their facebook. It now appears that a third party for political reasons has distributed it, yet I can reassure you that no such menu was distributed on the night. As you know no one at the dinner was privy to such a menu, and it is so unfortunate that an in-house joke between myself and my son has caused you great problems and embarrassment.

Regards,

Joe Richards
Chairman

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:14pm

" "Dear Mal, I have been following the rubbish that has been on the news today,'' the letter from Joe Richards reads.

"I would like to confirm what actually happened: there were never any menus distributed on the tables or in the restaurant.

"I created a mock menu myself as a light-hearted joke, however as I said I never produced them for public distribution.

"Unfortunately a staff member saw the mock menu, and unbeknownst to myself, posted it on their Facebook.

"It now appears that a third party for political reasons has distributed it, yet I can reassure you that no such menu was distributed on the night.

"As you know no one at the dinner was privy to such a menu, and it is so unfortunate that an in-house joke between myself and my son has caused you great problems and embarrassment.''

So, if it was a private thing between Richards and his son......what was Brough apologising for?

This Richards is an LNP donor, and he is doing his best to save some LNP face. Pity it is all so obviously a sham, given Brough's and Abbott's apologies.

If it were as Richards now states, Brough and Abbott would today have said, "We know nothing about this. It is rubbish."

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by progressiveslol on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:16pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:11pm:

exactly so...
now the Uber dummies here can apologise or slink away

Quote:

Poetic jsnt it. Gillard looks even more pathetic after grilling abbott over this. Lol poetic. Join the dots you sexist gillard

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:28pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 7:16pm:

You have bad taste in men and politicians it seems alevine.

I can't post what I think of Albanese.
Combet is getting just as bad.

Exactly. Their ties are hideous.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:30pm

Denial is a disease...

http://www.smh.com.au/queensland/menu-comparing-pm-to-quail-an-inhouse-joke-says-restaurant-owner-20130612-2o4dg.html

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:34pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:14pm:

" "Dear Mal, I have been following the rubbish that has been on the news today,'' the letter from Joe Richards reads.

"I would like to confirm what actually happened: there were never any menus distributed on the tables or in the restaurant.

"I created a mock menu myself as a light-hearted joke, however as I said I never produced them for public distribution.

"Unfortunately a staff member saw the mock menu, and unbeknownst to myself, posted it on their Facebook.

"It now appears that a third party for political reasons has distributed it, yet I can reassure you that no such menu was distributed on the night.

"As you know no one at the dinner was privy to such a menu, and it is so unfortunate that an in-house joke between myself and my son has caused you great problems and embarrassment.''

[i]So, if it was a private thing between Richards and his son......what was Brough apologising for?

This Richards is an LNP donor, and he is doing his best to save some LNP face. Pity it is all so obviously a sham, given Brough's and Abbott's apologies.

If it were as Richards now states, Brough and Abbott would today have said, "We know nothing about this. It is rubbish."
[/i]

Bump.....because the page roll-over bug struck.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Datalife on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:53pm

So the luvvies are claiming conspiracy? That a story was cooked up with the owner to cover up Lib culpability?

Might be true. I have no clue and know no more than any other clowns here.

Now if true, that it is a conspiracy, with this level of scrutiny I would expect in the end for truth to out, and if indeed Libs cooked up a conspiracy with the owner they deserve to be pilloried. Trying to cover it up would be stupider than "authorising" it in the first place. Speaking of that, would it be too hard for those to claim it was authorised to post some sort of reference? Or is that claim a matter of imagination?

So now we wait. In the meantime I expect the luvvies will continue to thrash themselves into a lather of indignation whilst summoning the lone gunmen.

And the reason I will wait is cos it is pointless debating with morons who resort to conspiracy theories to maintain a position even after that position has been overtaken by other events.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:34pm

yep but at the moment I'd say it is more probable that the SMH article is the truth.

http://www.smh.com.au/queensland/menu-comparing-pm-to-quail-an-inhouse-joke-says-restaurant-owner-20130612-2o4dg.html

regardless of the twisting and mind yoga the LW progs are doing to make it not so

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:51am

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 10:34pm:

I see what the LNP Donor Restaurant Owner has had to say. However, his story is completely inconsistent with what both Brough and Abbott have said publicly, which was an apology. If matters had been as Richards now asserts, Brough would have said, "I know nothing about this matter. There was no Menu or document of the abusive kind. I'll make some enquiries and get back to you."

Instead, he apologised........because he was innocent, of course. I'm always apologising when I am innocent. You?

Yes, more will emerge, especially, I'd hope, from the staff who made the Menu public.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by philperth2010 on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:17am

The issue is about men who have no respect for woman and would find such offensive material humorous.....These people are so called business leaders and public figures who are supporting an entity that would allow such offensive material to be used to denigrate the Prime Minister.....Tony Abbott has lead campaign of personal abuse that has seen public debate dragged into the gutter.....Ditch the witch and Bob Browns bitch.....Juliar.....Baron and an atheist.....A beard and a lesbian.....The list of personal insults have been supported by members of the Liberal party and the party faithful.....Claiming the Liberal party has nothing to do with any of this is bullshit!!!

>:( >:( >:(

Men show their characters in nothing more clearly than in what they think laughable.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749 - 1832)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:23am

miketrees wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 8:20pm:

miketrees

Its just Womens Weekly politics BFD .... so your opponent might of said something nasty about you, its even funnier and more pathetic that restaurant owner did it.

Politicians are real people that apparently sniff seats, dance on tables in their underwear at party functions, get caught coming out of gay bars late at night even though they are married with kids, drive around late at night in Comm Cars picking up boys etc.......

So exactly how does the ALP think this will play out ?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by mantra on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:32am

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:51am:

They're all as bad as each other. There is such a disgusting ongoing witch hunt to hurt Gillard.

Whenever you turn onto 2GB all you hear are their RW broadcasters spitting and bitching. Gillard's evil, Gillard's sick, Gillard's a witch, Gillard, Gillard, Gillard...adnauseum. Alan Jones is the worst - he spits and snarls about her constantly. His message of hate just babbles on and on. It's sickening and those who spout this crap willl do more to turn people off Abbott than anything Gillard could do.

Mal Brough is as immature and vengeful as the rest of them. The menu should have been ignored because it's so typical of the abuse the right whingers are forever spouting.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:47am

This issue in the end like so many others will not work out well for Gillard.
Right now she looks the goose for shooting her mouth off before checking the facts of the matter.
She owes Mal Brough an apology as his innocence in the matter is now clear.
The restaurant owner has apologised for the 'joke', and clearly the liberal party members were unaware of the menu that wasn't distributed.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by John Smith on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:56am

Grendel wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:30pm:

Denial is a disease...

http://www.smh.com.au/queensland/menu-comparing-pm-to-quail-an-inhouse-joke-says-restaurant-owner-20130612-2o4dg.html

funny how it took him 3 months to come out with that and Brough and Abbott both previously felt a need to apologise for it ..... sunrise asked one of his staff this morning if the menu was on the tables at the function, the staff member replied that she couldn't answer, but you 'need to read between the lines'.

Sounds like a cover up to me.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by miketrees on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:05am

Are we talking about the same Gillardhead that backed Peter (the vagina whisperer)Slipper?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by mantra on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:07am

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:56am:

Yes it does. Possibly the restaurant was compensated well to take the blame. It's hard to imagine any restaurant owner compromising his business in that way. It will have repercussions. Half the population might detest Gillard - why - they wouldn't have a clue, but the other half dislikes Abbott.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by lisa.greek on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:12am

Poor Joe Hockey on the streets of Melbourne last night - looking as though he was about to cry. "She called me a fat man" he spoke to all who would listen - "She called me a fat man" he once again wailed out. Then he slowly waddled into the lonely foyer of his luxury hotel - leaving the waiting press eager to hear more ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by lisa.greek on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:15am

miketrees wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:05am:

Are we talking about the same Gillardhead that backed Peter (the vagina whisperer)Slipper?

Yep. The same Slipper that the Libs endorsed for over a decade. You know, the same Slipper that had Mr Abbott as part of his wedding party. The same Slipper that the Libs held in such high regard that they were happy to see him remain as deputy speaker? Yep, that's him - the high profile Liberal, Mr Peter Slipper ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:43am

Quote:

Mal Brough is as immature and vengeful as the rest of them. The menu should have been ignored because it's so typical of the abuse the right whingers are forever spouting.

:D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ignorance is bliss eh.

The smh article explains everything very well and it is entirely consistant with what Abbott, Hockey and Brough has said about it.

As for Brough apologising, well he obviously felt the need to cover his arse due to the media beat up, in case there was something to it, and as a person of good manners, decided the PM deserved an apology for what allegedly took place at an event held to fundraise for him. Nothing odd or bizzare about that.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:45am

The ALP and their mindless supporters have very short memories... the Net is flooded with anti-Abbott crap just pick a LW Prog website.

Forgot all about the Credlin joke at the Union get together haven't you all... you hypocrites.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:47am

lisa.greek wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:15am:

miketrees wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:05am:

Are we talking about the same Gillardhead that backed Peter (the vagina whisperer)Slipper?

A fine man. All he did was call ladies unmentionables seafood in a private text message to the dish, James Ashby.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:50am

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:43am:

[quote]

As for Brough apologising, well he obviously felt the need to cover his arse due to the media beat up, in case there was something to it, and as a person of good manners, decided the PM deserved an apology for what allegedly took place at an event held to fundraise for him. Nothing odd or bizzare about that.

Exactly. By apologizing for the matter, Mr Brough is no longer responsible.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:54am

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:34pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 9:14pm:

" "Dear Mal, I have been following the rubbish that has been on the news today,'' the letter from Joe Richards reads.

"I would like to confirm what actually happened: there were never any menus distributed on the tables or in the restaurant.

"I created a mock menu myself as a light-hearted joke, however as I said I never produced them for public distribution.

"Unfortunately a staff member saw the mock menu, and unbeknownst to myself, posted it on their Facebook.

"It now appears that a third party for political reasons has distributed it, yet I can reassure you that no such menu was distributed on the night.

"As you know no one at the dinner was privy to such a menu, and it is so unfortunate that an in-house joke between myself and my son has caused you great problems and embarrassment.''

[i]So, if it was a private thing between Richards and his son......what was Brough apologising for?

This Richards is an LNP donor, and he is doing his best to save some LNP face. Pity it is all so obviously a sham, given Brough's and Abbott's apologies.

If it were as Richards now states, Brough and Abbott would today have said, "We know nothing about this. It is rubbish."
[/i]

Bump.....because the page roll-over bug struck.

Perhaps because it happened on Brough's 'watch'??
It's not unusual for a certain type of person to make an apology (without accepting guilt) for the stupid actions of employees or people hired to do a job for them.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:41am

Dog and bone.... you need to drop it come on drop it... there's a good boy... put it down..

Quote:

Shadow treasurer Joe Hockey was the guest of honour at the March event, but has tweeted that he can't recall ever seeing the menu.

"It is offensive and inappropriate whenever it was put out and it is now," he said.

Mr Brough, a former Howard government minister who is seeking to return to parliament in a Queensland seat, has also defended his colleague, telling the ABC "Mr Hockey had nothing to do with it."

Mr Brough also insisted he could not recall seeing the menu at the event for 20 people, held on March 28.

Asked if it could see him disendorsed, or affect his preselection in any way, Mr Brough said that was a "ridiculous" suggestion.

"I didn't condone the menu nor did I authorise it...it should never have been written," he said.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 2:57pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:41am:

Dog and bone.... you need to drop it come on drop it... there's a good boy... put it down..

Quote:

Yes he saw nothing did nothing but still after spending half a day trying to work out a statement he ended up apologizing. That makes sense.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by longweekend58 on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 3:58pm

lisa.greek wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:15am:

miketrees wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:05am:

Are we talking about the same Gillardhead that backed Peter (the vagina whisperer)Slipper?

actually the libs were very UNhappy to have one of their party as deputy speaker and therefore sometimes unable to vote. Try and keep up with history as it actually happened, okay?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by longweekend58 on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:01pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:41am:

Dog and bone.... you need to drop it come on drop it... there's a good boy... put it down..

Quote:

Yes he saw nothing did nothing but still after spending half a day trying to work out a statement he ended up apologizing. That makes sense.

It's called personal integrity. it is not something you often see on the side of politics you support. when Gillard's office tried to organise a RIOT against Abbott did she apologise for it? of course not! it is not in her nature to take responsibility for anything that happens on her watch.

Integrity. Not something you find in the ALP.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:09pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:41am:

Dog and bone.... you need to drop it come on drop it... there's a good boy... put it down..

Quote:

Yes he saw nothing did nothing but still after spending half a day trying to work out a statement he ended up apologizing. That makes sense.

Personal Integrity and Brough? ;D ;D ;D ;D You've got to be joking. The man who weeded out his opponent for preselection through such means that resulted in a civil court case that went nowhere but and a 200,000$ legal bill for Slipper. BUt hey, just don't get on the wrong side of Brough. Interesting how it seems Slipper and Brough are almost alike when it comes to their opinions of women's vaginas and the sort. mm?

Yes, Brough has integrity. ;D So much integrity that he waits till midday to confirm his statement, then releases it BEFORE the letter from his MATE who he CAN CALL AT ANY TIME. Please. It isn't integrity. It's called Brough is a true wankjob who is not fit to be anywhere near the political arena - clearly he hasn't got over being booted out in 2007 and now its destruction for anything in his path.

And perhaps Gillard didn't need to apologise BECAUSE SHE ACTUALLY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT? See normally people aren't sympathetic or apologetic for things THEY DO NOT DO. They can be empathetic...perhaps... but that doesn't mean you categorically apologise.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by longweekend58 on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:15pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:41am:

Dog and bone.... you need to drop it come on drop it... there's a good boy... put it down..

Quote:

Yes he saw nothing did nothing but still after spending half a day trying to work out a statement he ended up apologizing. That makes sense.

your problem is quite simple. You can not, will not and am utterly incapable of believing any story or fact that might not harm the liberal party or Abbott. If Gillard claims tomorrow that Abbott is a paedophile, you will believe it and nothing will ever convince you otherwise. If you can twist any story to labors benefit you will regardless of logic, probability or even undeniable facts. You are a fool.

Its Occams Razor where the simplest solution is usually the right one or stated otherwise "when the plain sense makes sense, seek o other sense"

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by red baron on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:34pm

I would love to know how long Labor has been 'sitting' on this dinner menu story.

Isn't it coincidental that it happened way back in March but it hasn't surfaced until now, as we near the Federal Election. This stinks of a 'set up' otherwise the allegations would have broken long ago.

In the Ripley's Believe or Not category as far as timing goes, and as anyone knows, timing is not everything it is the only thing.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:15pm:

Quite the contrary, if Gillard called Tony a peado I'd tell her to get f**cked because there is absolutely no foundation or evidence to make such a claim. But when we have sneaky and dirty politicians within the Liberal Party that is led by the one and only Tony, and sexism is involved I do like to have a second look.

See, the canny observer actually looks at everything people say and do, not just what they want to hear. Brough has demonstrated himself to be quite a wank, and as such I would never give him the benefit of doubt. Tony has on too many occasions through his own policies and gaffes shown himself to be quite sexist. Not to mention his ministry and how he's surrounded himself with some of the biggest right wing male nutjobs in Australian politics today. Sorry, but if you'd actually observe rather than put the blinkers on and only believe what you want to believe, perhaps you'd notice that in fact there is quite a problem, and as such no Brough's mate's statement is going to conclude that undeniably Brough had no participation within the menu.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:11pm

Unfortunately alevine you seem to believe everything that comes out of the ALP/Green propaganda machine.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:14pm

red baron wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:34pm:

David Carter is a rabid LW feral. Take a look at his twitterblog some of it is really disgusting.
I think he has not worked there since October.
he has admitted he wasn't there in March.
Didn't see the menus
Hasn't spoken to anyone that did.
has no proof they were seen.
Just posted the menu he lifted without any good reason other than to sling mud.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:14pm

red baron wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:34pm:

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:22pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:11pm:

Unfortunately alevine you seem to believe everything that comes out of the ALP/Green propaganda machine.

not at all. most of the stuff I shake my head at. I'm just not liek you Grendel, who chooses to ignore everything unless Tony said it ;)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:25pm

Grenbel, I don't need any more proof beyond Brough's concession that he could identify it as the work of someone not in the LNP, and done in humour.

On the question of why Abbott's Office was involved in the email from Richards:

"He (Abbott) also defended Mr Richards' statement being distribute by his office.

"The restaurant owner, funnily enough, doesn't actually have a media staff and the email from the restaurant owner went to Joe Hockey, it went to Mal Brough, it went to my office and it's perfectly appropriate that my office should distribute it to people who need the facts and I think it's very important that the media should report the facts," he said."

Why send it to Hockey? Why not straight to Gillard, and cc to Brough?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by alevine on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:28pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:25pm:

I'd also like to know why he's apologising to Brough and not Gillard.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:05pm

Is this a reliable eye witness account? (There is a name the Media can chase.)

If so, Brough is phucked.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by rabbitoh07 on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:13pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 6:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

I not that you didn't identify Wong's gender. I admit, it is a coin-toss.

I can’t recall ever seeing her in a skirt. Not once. I can’t imagine she’s shave her armpits either.

Yes. Whereas Andy Robb comes up a treat in a skirt and blue tie. And his armpits are a smooth as Christopher Pyne's bum.

Stop THE boats.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:29pm

The local Sunshine Coast paper has now picked up on the recent revelation.

If she is telling the truth, as I said, Brough is phucked.

Quote:

THERE are fresh claims that the sexist menu targeting Julia Gillard at a Mal Brough fundraiser was handed out to guests.

A post, which is doing the rounds on Twitter, claims the menu was distributed and that the restaurant owner had taken the fall for Mr Brough.

Mr Brough has emphatically denied the claims, referring to restaurant owner Joe Richards' statement that the menu was a private joke between him and his son.

"I work at the Brisbane restaurant in question and let me assure everyone that the menu was indeed made public,'' blog on the Hoopla site from Sascha Taylor said.

"How lovely of the owner to fall on his sword like that,'' the comment says.

It goes on to say she had given her notice on Thursday morning in disgust.

APN was unable to reach Mr Richards or the restaurant on Thursday night to verify Ms Taylor worked at the restaurant.

An ABC correspondent tweeted he had spoken to Mr Richards who said that no staff member had quit and that he had never heard of Sascha Taylor.

Note the last paragraph.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:40pm

re the topic... to be anti_Gillard doesn't even have to involve any sexism...

just look at the PMs record. ::)

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:44pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:40pm:

re the topic... to be anti_Gillard doesn't even have to involve any sexism...

just look at the PMs record. ::)

Is that some sort of odd justification for the contents of the Menu?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:49pm

Oh and whilst the LW ignore the character of David Carter...

Quote:

THE Brisbane chef who claimed a menu demeaning Julia Gillard was used at an LNP fundraiser admits to making highly offensive tweets about Tony Abbott.

David Carter also revealed he was sacked months before the March 28 function and he had no evidence the menu was seen by guests, including Liberal National Party candidate Mal Brough or shadow treasurer Joe Hockey.

Mr Carter conceded today that he did not like Mr Abbott and had made derogatory references to him in tweets earlier this year.

The tweets, seen by The Australian, refer to Mr Abbott, pit bull terriers, rape and AIDS.

Quote:

Mr Carter, who got a copy of the menu from a friend's Facebook page, admitted he was sacked by Mr Richards last October.

He said Mr Richards had previously mocked up such menus, including for Labor Party functions.

Now there's an unbiased reliable witness if ever there was one.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:52pm

What was that?

He said Mr Richards had previously mocked up such menus, including for Labor Party functions.

So much for Richards being an LNP member or party stooge then eh.

Can't wait for those doozies to surface and hear the self-righteous indignation and apologies from labor.
;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Dnarever on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:59pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 2:57pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:41am:

Dog and bone.... you need to drop it come on drop it... there's a good boy... put it down..

Quote:

Yes he saw nothing did nothing but still after spending half a day trying to work out a statement he ended up apologizing. That makes sense.

He came out early blaming a not Liberal member and appologising before the restraunt guy took the fall.

The impression was that Mal knew what he was on about knew who supplied the menu and never made the claim that he hadn't seen the menu or didn't remember it when he was appologising for it.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:59pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:52pm:

Well, when and if they do, have at it.

But, all the rest from you is just silly stuff simply because both Richards and Brough ADMIT the offensive Menu under discussion is genuine, so Carter's credibility is not remotely relevant.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:09pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:52pm:

What was that?

He said Mr Richards had previously mocked up such menus, including for Labor Party functions.
;D ;D ;D

What a hideous individual this man must be. He worked for the Labor Party?

That proves he’s a liar. How can we be expected to believe a thing this leftard says?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:09pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:22pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:11pm:

Unfortunately alevine you seem to believe everything that comes out of the ALP/Green propaganda machine.

not at all. most of the stuff I shake my head at. I'm just not liek you Grendel, who chooses to ignore everything unless Tony said it ;)

I'm not a Tony fan alevine seems you are wrong yet again.

I just address the facts.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:10pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:22pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:11pm:

Unfortunately alevine you seem to believe everything that comes out of the ALP/Green propaganda machine.

not at all. most of the stuff I shake my head at. I'm just not liek you Grendel, who chooses to ignore everything unless Tony said it ;)

I'm not a Tony fan alevine seems you are wrong yet again.

I just address the facts.

I presume this is an ozpolitic glitch... is it ever going to get fixed?
Or am I doing something wrong ever 6 or so posts?

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:12pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:09pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:52pm:

What was that?

He said Mr Richards had previously mocked up such menus, including for Labor Party functions.
;D ;D ;D

What a hideous individual this man must be. He worked for the Labor Party?

That proves he’s a liar. How can we be expected to believe a thing this leftard says?

wasn't my point karnal... but you are welcome to yours.

Those who skim will never learn.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:14pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:09pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:22pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:11pm:

Unfortunately alevine you seem to believe everything that comes out of the ALP/Green propaganda machine.

not at all. most of the stuff I shake my head at. I'm just not liek you Grendel, who chooses to ignore everything unless Tony said it ;)

I'm not a Tony fan alevine seems you are wrong yet again.

I just address the facts.

Yes, leftard lies. We know the type of facts your type addresses.

What’s wrong with Mr Abbott? You tell me that.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Grendel on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:15pm

alevine
dna
I have already posted an explanation re broughs apology.
Seems most in the media are now getting it.
perhaps not the ABC. :D

but then...

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by Karnal on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:20pm

Pathetic, just pathetic.

Title: Re: Anti Gillard sexism
Post by miketrees on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:51pm

Gillardhead should be grateful they only made fun of her appearance.

Her true ugliness comes from her flawed character and treacherous nature.
She is ugly on the inside