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Menu at Mal Brough’s fundraiser.

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The media was buzzing all day yesterday about that menu. The mock menu allegedly created for a Mal Brough fundraiser back in March. The menu that refers to a number of Labor MPs ― but specifically to Prime Minister Julia Gillard in a highly offensive and sexist way. And by “media”, I mean all the media. Newspapers, TV, social media, radio ― it’s been everywhere,. Meanwhile, other stories  ‒ such as the 260 Target workers made redundant in Geelong ‒ seem to have slipped through the cracks. Last night, there was a twist in the tale. Apparently, Joe Richards ‒ the owner of the restaurant at which the fundraiser was held ‒ has claimed responsibility for the menu, and says it was an “in-joke” that was not used at the fundraiser at all. As reported on The Age website, Richards wrote a letter to Brough explaining the situation after seeing it reported on the evening news. Bullshit! And here’s why: At midday, this story, written by Latika Bourke, was released on the ABC website, with the headline screaming: ‘Liberal National Party candidate Mal Brough apologises for ‘offensive and sexist’ menu which mocked Julia Gillard’s body’. http://youtu.be/AexULbF5POY The third paragraph of the article states: ‘Mr Brough says the menu was drawn up by a non-party member who thought it would be “humorous” and “didn’t mean any harm by it,” but is now “deeply apologetic”.’ So. at midday, Brough was aware that the menu had been drawn up by a non-party member, who was now deeply apologetic. But wait … how could Brough have known this, if Richards didn’t contact him until later in the day? Remember, Richards didn’t write his letter to Brough until after seeing the story on the evening news. And in his letter, which was subsequently distributed by the LNP, he stated the following: As you know no one at the dinner was privy to such a menu, and it is so unfortunate that an in-house joke between myself and my son has caused you great problems and embarrassment. How, then, could Brough have known that Richards ‒ a non-party member ‒ was responsible for the menu when the ABC article was published at midday? It doesn’t add up. Brough made statements, reported at midday, containing details that he couldn’t have known until later in the day ― if he and Richards are to be believed. Unless it is just a flimsy fabrication to protect a highly protected candidate. I’ll let you be the judge of that.

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‘Smokin’ Joe Richards: menu author and LNP donor. (Image courtesy Courier-Mail.)

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/the-mal-brough-menugate-cover-up/

Brough is a liar, he will suit the phoney Tony Liberal party to a T.

Why don't you guys drop it...

You've been blown out of the water by the truth...

Pathetic.  :D

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

Why don't you guys drop it... You've been blown out of the water by the truth... Pathetic.  :D

The only thing blown out of the water is the pathetic attempt to cover ones arse from the Liberals.

Move along nothing to see here, yet if it was a labor fundraiser mocking say Bishop, we'd require an election I'm sure.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:36am: Why don't you guys drop it... You've been blown out of the water by the truth... Pathetic.  :D The only thing blown out of the water is the pathetic attempt to cover ones arse from the Liberals. Move along nothing to see here, yet if it was a labor fundraiser mocking say Bishop, we'd require an election I'm sure.

Conspiranut.

You know, very often the truth as unpalatable as it is to you and the mindless minions, is the simple explanation.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:36am: Why don't you guys drop it... You've been blown out of the water by the truth... Pathetic.  :D The only thing blown out of the water is the pathetic attempt to cover ones arse from the Liberals. Move along nothing to see here, yet if it was a labor fundraiser mocking say Bishop, we'd require an election I'm sure.

Of course we would. Ms Bishop is above reproach. She's a fine lady.

We're talking about JuLiar here.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

Why don't you guys drop it... You've been blown out of the water by the truth... Pathetic.  :D

Pathetic, just pathetic.

so now we find that the menu was made by a non-liberal member and not even given out at the event?? until yesterday it had been seen by almost no one?

what a serious scandal... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

Why don't you guys drop it... You've been blown out of the water by the truth... Pathetic.  :D

Don't you like the truth being told just ask yourself why did Brough apology yesterday afternoon after the story broke and he didn't know who done the menu.

If he seen the menu before the story broke why didn't he apology when he seen it.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

so now we find that the menu was made by a non-liberal member and not even given out at the event?? until yesterday it had been seen by almost no one? what a serious scandal... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It was made by Richards that donate money to the Liberal National Party.

So are you happy that someone that donate money to the Liberal National Party can say or print anything they want without any comeback

John S wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:39am:

Unless it is just a flimsy fabrication to protect a highly protected candidate.

"Flimsy" indeed.

Hard to imagine how anyone could fall for this.

Well, anyone except Grendel.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KVKKwb_yFDo/UBXNvKrNSLI/AAAAAAAACjM/yMmkLCJJ6N0/s1600/gullible+(1).jpg

Well done Grendel, well done   ;D

The conga line of phony Tony cheers squad members do not care if Liberal do things that are dishonest or uncouth or illegal for that matter, they only care if it is non Liberals that do that. Read the apologists here, pathetic.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

so now we find that the menu was made by a non-liberal member and not even given out at the event?? until yesterday it had been seen by almost no one? what a serious scandal... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No as outlined by the above timeline of actual statements, we see the Liberals firstly denigrating the PM in a sexual way(which goes to my outrage comments yesterday), then LYING to cover it up.

The blatant LYING is the serious scandal, especially seeing the onus put on HONESTY by the current Opp Leader.

And to top it off supposedly intelligent principled posters such as yourself want to just sweep it under the carpet >:(

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:36am: Why don't you guys drop it... You've been blown out of the water by the truth... Pathetic.  :D The only thing blown out of the water is the pathetic attempt to cover ones arse from the Liberals. Move along nothing to see here, yet if it was a labor fundraiser mocking say Bishop, we'd require an election I'm sure.

Oh come on Smithy, you can't be so naive as to this sort of thing hasn't/doesn't happen among Labor as well???
The only difference is, they are either smart enough, or (so far) lucky enough, that it doesn't get posted on social media..

Sigh....  ::)


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No as outlined by the above timeline of actual statements, we see the Liberals firstly denigrating the PM in a sexual way(which goes to my outrage comments yesterday), then LYING to cover it up.

Yet no Libs denigrated anyone, in any way.  Nor did they lie to cover it up.  If you accept the reported facts.


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The blatant LYING is the serious scandal, especially seeing the onus put on HONESTY by the current Opp Leader.

The scandal is your inability to accept the facts.


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And to top it off supposedly intelligent principled posters such as yourself want to just sweep it under the carpet Angry

As opposed to the more feral posters such as yourself who thought they had a bone and now won't let it go.
Rather pathetic if you ask me.

skippy. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

The conga line of phony Tony cheers squad members do not care if Liberal do things that are dishonest or uncouth or illegal for that matter, they only care if it is non Liberals that do that..

Congratulations, you finally got something right....

http://anybodythere.net/yabbfiles/Smilies/applause.gif

...and ditto back at ya  ;)

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:34am:

Sigh....  ::) Quote: No as outlined by the above timeline of actual statements, we see the Liberals firstly denigrating the PM in a sexual way(which goes to my outrage comments yesterday), then LYING to cover it up. Yet no Libs denigrated anyone, in any way.  Nor did they lie to cover it up.  If you accept the reported facts. [quote]The blatant LYING is the serious scandal, especially seeing the onus put on HONESTY by the current Opp Leader.

The scandal is your inability to accept the facts.


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And to top it off supposedly intelligent principled posters such as yourself want to just sweep it under the carpet Angry

As opposed to the more feral posters such as yourself who thought they had a bone and now won't let it go.
Rather pathetic if you ask me.[/quote]


I'm here to help, Grendel:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-u4KEPbwYX9s/TcNwWEw9ubI/AAAAAAAAOaw/d_VzdJ4_XVk/s1600/gullible+2.jpg

Let me know how you go.

Cheers   ;)

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:40am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:36am: Why don't you guys drop it... You've been blown out of the water by the truth... Pathetic.  :D The only thing blown out of the water is the pathetic attempt to cover ones arse from the Liberals. Move along nothing to see here, yet if it was a labor fundraiser mocking say Bishop, we'd require an election I'm sure.

Really smithy??


"We ran this story online through the day so gave it a fair bit of coverage. However later in the day, the restaurant owner cleared up the story and stated it was an in-house joke that had not been seen by the Liberal National members for the dinner so it was a bit of something out of nothing really.

Still worth us reporting but obviously in light of the explanation, it warrants nothing more than about the page 9 which is where we have it in the hardcopy editions"

Damon Johnston, Editor Herald Sun
(Speaking on Triple M radio)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:38am:

However later in the day, the restaurant owner cleared up the story ...

http://mahakhalid.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/hook-line-sinker.gif

;D

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:32am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:40am: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:36am: Why don't you guys drop it... You've been blown out of the water by the truth... Pathetic.  :D The only thing blown out of the water is the pathetic attempt to cover ones arse from the Liberals. Move along nothing to see here, yet if it was a labor fundraiser mocking say Bishop, we'd require an election I'm sure. Oh come on Smithy, you can't be so naive as to this sort of thing hasn't/doesn't happen among Labor as well??? The only difference is, they are either smart enough, or (so far) lucky enough, that it doesn't get posted on social media..

If it was there to be found they would have found it by now.
Remember the outrage & howls of resign when the affair between Abbott & the Chin was joked about?
Yet move along, nothing to see here when its at a liberal function.

PS don't forget to berate me & make the focus on the fact I alluded to Credlin's HUGE chin.

Far more scandalous & disrespectful than speaking about Gillard's tits & vagina

skippy. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

The conga line of phony Tony cheers squad members do not care if Liberal do things that are dishonest or uncouth or illegal for that matter, they only care if it is non Liberals that do that.

Exactly. JuLiar is the dishonest, uncouth and illegal one - a barren woman.

DITCH THE WITCH.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:58am: so now we find that the menu was made by a non-liberal member and not even given out at the event?? until yesterday it had been seen by almost no one? what a serious scandal... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D No as outlined by the above timeline of actual statements, we see the Liberals firstly denigrating the PM in a sexual way(which goes to my outrage comments yesterday), then LYING to cover it up. The blatant LYING is the serious scandal, especially seeing the onus put on HONESTY by the current Opp Leader. And to top it off supposedly intelligent principled posters such as yourself want to just sweep it under the carpet >:(

the story is that the menu was made by one man and NOT distributed at the event. the only way we even know of its existence is that someone took a photo of it in a back room. So... are you going to pretend that there are rude and insulting documents and comments made about both sides by a variety of people around the country that are equally insulting or worse?

IM struggling to see the implication that the Libs were behind it since it is manifestly obvious that they didn't even see it.

Think about some of the obscene things said on ozpolitic about abbott or Gillard or a host of people. does that make the media??  and it is certainly seen by more people than this menu was before someone publicised it.

Should I copy some of Skippy's comments and send them into the daily telegraph?  he is more vile than this menu.

PERSPECTIVE PEOPLE.

and by contrast Gillard expresses her hatred of all men and her blatant sexism and you say...

very little.

The best thing about this is the Freudian slip in the title...

Pec!
Pec, Pec, Pec...

Oh dear are the facts I present bothering you?
Is that why the use of "gratuitous abuse"  ;D ;D ;D

Grow up
Pec.

The votes are in and on Sept 15 Gillard and Co will be out.

"There will be no Carbon Tax under the government I lead."

"Misogyny, sexism, every day from this Leader of the Opposition."

"Failure is not an option and we will not fail."

"Game on!"

These will be recorded in history as the Gillard epithets.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

the story is that the menu was made by one man and NOT distributed at the event.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KufRxIwLj6A/T7SJdM2gPXI/AAAAAAAAAaw/8Qer7b7pbaQ/s1600/bridge+for+sale.jpg

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:21am: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:58am: so now we find that the menu was made by a non-liberal member and not even given out at the event?? until yesterday it had been seen by almost no one? what a serious scandal... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D No as outlined by the above timeline of actual statements, we see the Liberals firstly denigrating the PM in a sexual way(which goes to my outrage comments yesterday), then LYING to cover it up. The blatant LYING is the serious scandal, especially seeing the onus put on HONESTY by the current Opp Leader. And to top it off supposedly intelligent principled posters such as yourself want to just sweep it under the carpet >:( the story is that the menu was made by one man and NOT distributed at the event. the only way we even know of its existence is that someone took a photo of it in a back room. So... are you going to pretend that there are rude and insulting documents and comments made about both sides by a variety of people around the country that are equally insulting or worse? IM struggling to see the implication that the Libs were behind it since it is manifestly obvious that they didn't even see it. Think about some of the obscene things said on ozpolitic about abbott or Gillard or a host of people. does that make the media??  and it is certainly seen by more people than this menu was before someone publicised it. Should I copy some of Skippy's comments and send them into the daily telegraph?  he is more vile than this menu. PERSPECTIVE PEOPLE. and by contrast Gillard expresses her hatred of all men and her blatant sexism and you say... very little.

Yeah thanks for totally ignoring the fact that I said the scandal was the lying & arse covering.

Lets get back to Gillard accusing someone of something like Abbott & his mates attitude to women, with NO apparent evidence.

Karnal wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

skippy. wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:17am: The conga line of phony Tony cheers squad members do not care if Liberal do things that are dishonest or uncouth or illegal for that matter, they only care if it is non Liberals that do that. Exactly. JuLiar is the dishonest, uncouth and illegal one - a barren woman. DITCH THE WITCH.

That is so funny and typical of the right. Have you bothered scrutinising Julie Bishop lately? She is also barren and on top of that has begun frothing at the mouth exactly like Abbott. She'll be stepping into his shoes when Abbott's not around and the rest of us will have to tolerate her. She's as burnt out as the rest of the Shadow cabinet.

https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/79097888/0__6380002_00.jpg

Is it true that in the future people that are in complete denial of the truth will be known as doing a "greggerypeccary" or doin' a Pec!  :D

;D ;D ;D

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:02am:

Is it true that in the future people that are in complete denial of the truth will be known as doing a "greggerypeccary" or doin' a Pec!  :D ;D ;D ;D

http://fork-handles.1091203.n5.nabble.com/file/n4475/are_you_gullible__by_amdphreak-d4ve0rb.png

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:32am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:40am: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:36am: Why don't you guys drop it... You've been blown out of the water by the truth... Pathetic.  :D The only thing blown out of the water is the pathetic attempt to cover ones arse from the Liberals. Move along nothing to see here, yet if it was a labor fundraiser mocking say Bishop, we'd require an election I'm sure. Oh come on Smithy, you can't be so naive as to this sort of thing hasn't/doesn't happen among Labor as well??? The only difference is, they are either smart enough, or (so far) lucky enough, that it doesn't get posted on social media.. If it was there to be found they would have found it by now. Remember the outrage & howls of resign when the affair between Abbott & the Chin was joked about? Yet move along, nothing to see here when its at a liberal function. PS don't forget to berate me & make the focus on the fact I alluded to Credlin's HUGE chin. Far more scandalous & disrespectful than speaking about Gillard's tits & vagina

Hmmm I'm just surprised that you don't think that there are any humans working for/supporting the Labor party....

And if it (any derogatory references to Lib pollies) remained as inter-office or between two people, then it couldn't be 'found out'.

And I can't berate you for 'Credlin's huge chin' since I have no idea ( or interest) in the particualr reference...

I've had the pleasure of meeting Julie Bishop in the last year at an Australian-American Chamber of Commerce event that she guest speaker'd along with Josh Frydenberg.

She was informative about the oil and gas industry, she understood the concerns of industry and the pressure we are under on costs and spoke really well of easing the burdens we face on regulation redtape and lack of grant fundings.

I was nothing other than impressed with her.

She also looked immaculate for 7am.

So mantra, your comments really don't match the person I met at all.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

I've had the pleasure of meeting Julie Bishop in the last year at an Australian-American Chamber of Commerce event that she guest speaker'd along with Josh Frydenberg. She was informative about the oil and gas industry, she understood the concerns of industry and the pressure we are under on costs and spoke really well of easing the burdens we face on regulation redtape and lack of grant fundings. I was nothing other than impressed with her. She also looked immaculate for 7am. So mantra, your comments really don't match the person I met at all.

What that got to do with what the thread about dickhead.

Get back to South Africa where you belong and pray for Nelson Mandela he needs all your prayers

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

I was nothing other than impressed with her. She also looked immaculate for 7am. So mantra, your comments really don't match the person I met at all.

Yes I'm sure she does make a good first impression when she's in the public arena Andrei, but you're fortunate you don't see her splattered all over our media spitting and snarling. She has lost her dignity, but that's no surprise. She still hasn't quite recovered from her stint under the Howard government where she was constantly under a gag order. Howard kept a tight leash on his ministers and you can liken them now to guard dogs taken off their leashes and given freedom for the first time.

Abbott might have to resort to doing the same if she can't control herself, although that might be a problem because who will control Abbott?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:51am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:21am: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:58am: so now we find that the menu was made by a non-liberal member and not even given out at the event?? until yesterday it had been seen by almost no one? what a serious scandal... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D No as outlined by the above timeline of actual statements, we see the Liberals firstly denigrating the PM in a sexual way(which goes to my outrage comments yesterday), then LYING to cover it up. The blatant LYING is the serious scandal, especially seeing the onus put on HONESTY by the current Opp Leader. And to top it off supposedly intelligent principled posters such as yourself want to just sweep it under the carpet >:( the story is that the menu was made by one man and NOT distributed at the event. the only way we even know of its existence is that someone took a photo of it in a back room. So... are you going to pretend that there are rude and insulting documents and comments made about both sides by a variety of people around the country that are equally insulting or worse? IM struggling to see the implication that the Libs were behind it since it is manifestly obvious that they didn't even see it. Think about some of the obscene things said on ozpolitic about abbott or Gillard or a host of people. does that make the media??  and it is certainly seen by more people than this menu was before someone publicised it. Should I copy some of Skippy's comments and send them into the daily telegraph?  he is more vile than this menu. PERSPECTIVE PEOPLE. and by contrast Gillard expresses her hatred of all men and her blatant sexism and you say... very little. Yeah thanks for totally ignoring the fact that I said the scandal was the lying & arse covering. Lets get back to Gillard accusing someone of something like Abbott & his mates attitude to women, with NO apparent evidence.

because you say so?  the evidence support the explanation. NO ONE at the event has said they ever saw it.

u r better than this.

John S wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:04am: I've had the pleasure of meeting Julie Bishop in the last year at an Australian-American Chamber of Commerce event that she guest speaker'd along with Josh Frydenberg. She was informative about the oil and gas industry, she understood the concerns of industry and the pressure we are under on costs and spoke really well of easing the burdens we face on regulation redtape and lack of grant fundings. I was nothing other than impressed with her. She also looked immaculate for 7am. So mantra, your comments really don't match the person I met at all. What that got to do with what the thread about dickhead. Get back to South Africa where you belong and pray for Nelson Mandela he needs all your prayers

I see why you mainly copy and paste other peoples comments. your grammar, spelling and basic sentence construction is sub-standard.

Gillard unleashes misogynist terrorists and rapist boaties into the community en masse and all people worry about is a stupid f#ckin menu, I weep for this country.  :'(

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:19am:

NO ONE at the event has said they ever saw it.

No yesterdays line was they couldn't remember it, not they didn't see it.

In fact Brough apoligised for something he now apparently knew nothing about


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‘Mr Brough says the menu was drawn up by a non-party member who thought it would be “humorous” and “didn’t mean any harm by it,” but is now “deeply apologetic”.’

But you keep cheering for your footy team, just like those Bulldog supporters who blamed the girl at Coffs Habour, just like Im sure it was a set up of Tamou with the high range drink driving etc etc.
Anything can be excused in the name of money or winning >:(

I love how righties are so willing to put side their self proclaimed honesty and integrity for the sake of the cause.

They will still splutter with outrage whenever their veracity is questioned, but have too little decency to do the right thing over even minor issues like this.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:19am: NO ONE at the event has said they ever saw it. No yesterdays line was they couldn't remember it, not they didn't see it. In fact Brough apoligised for something he now apparently knew nothing about Quote: ‘Mr Brough says the menu was drawn up by a non-party member who thought it would be “humorous” and “didn’t mean any harm by it,” but is now “deeply apologetic”.’ But you keep cheering for your footy team, just like those Bulldog supporters who blamed the girl at Coffs Habour, just like Im sure it was a set up of Tamou with the high range drink driving etc etc. Anything can be excused in the name of money or winning >:(

seriously??? that is your argument?  if they had seen it they WOULD have remembered it. The only credible explanation is that they hadn't seen it.

you are better than to be sucked into the vortex of pro-labor idiocy that spends a couple days debating a stupid menu that no one saw while the economy slides down the toilet. it is in fact the ultimate commentary on Labor losing the plot that sexism and a stupid menu occupy their days - neither of which are a problem to anyone at all.

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:36am:

I love how righties are so willing to put side their self proclaimed honesty and integrity for the sake of the cause. They will still splutter with outrage whenever their veracity is questioned, but have too little decency to do the right thing over even minor issues like this.

That's rubbish Mozz.
No one in their right mind LW or otherwise would keep on about this menu thing now the facts are out.  That is rusted-on denial or the way of Conspiranuts.

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:36am:

I love how righties are so willing to put side their self proclaimed honesty and integrity for the sake of the cause. They will still splutter with outrage whenever their veracity is questioned, but have too little decency to do the right thing over even minor issues like this.

and what is 'the right thing'. every lib supporter on here has acknowledged that the menu was offensive. But we also acknowledge that nobody at the Lib even even saw it thus making this nothing more than some nobody making a crude joke and it being posted online. How, does this even rate more than a 30 second comment?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:04am:

I've had the pleasure of meeting Julie Bishop in the last year at an Australian-American Chamber of Commerce event that she guest speaker'd along with Josh Frydenberg. She was informative about the oil and gas industry, she understood the concerns of industry and the pressure we are under on costs and spoke really well of easing the burdens we face on regulation redtape and lack of grant fundings. I was nothing other than impressed with her. She also looked immaculate for 7am. So mantra, your comments really don't match the person I met at all.

mantra is a LW prog hater, Andrei... she still obsesses over Howard and what she thinks of Abbott is largely unrepeatable.  Don't expect logic or rationality there.

i can provide quotes.  ;D

From the source in the Opening Post:


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‘Mr Brough says the menu was drawn up by a non-party member who thought it would be “humorous” and “didn’t mean any harm by it,” but is now “deeply apologetic”.’ So. at midday, Brough was aware that the menu had been drawn up by a non-party member, who was now deeply apologetic. But wait … how could Brough have known this, if Richards didn’t contact him until later in the day? Remember, Richards didn’t write his letter to Brough until after seeing the story on the evening news. And in his letter, which was subsequently distributed by the LNP, he stated the following: As you know no one at the dinner was privy to such a menu, and it is so unfortunate that an in-house joke between myself and my son has caused you great problems and embarrassment. How, then, could Brough have known that Richards ‒ a non-party member ‒ was responsible for the menu when the ABC article was published at midday? It doesn’t add up. Brough made statements, reported at midday, containing details that he couldn’t have known until later in the day ― if he and Richards are to be believed. Unless it is just a flimsy fabrication to protect a highly protected candidate. I’ll let you be the judge of that.

The story does not stack up.  Someone is lying.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:40am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:31am: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:19am: NO ONE at the event has said they ever saw it. No yesterdays line was they couldn't remember it, not they didn't see it. In fact Brough apoligised for something he now apparently knew nothing about Quote: ‘Mr Brough says the menu was drawn up by a non-party member who thought it would be “humorous” and “didn’t mean any harm by it,” but is now “deeply apologetic”.’ But you keep cheering for your footy team, just like those Bulldog supporters who blamed the girl at Coffs Habour, just like Im sure it was a set up of Tamou with the high range drink driving etc etc. Anything can be excused in the name of money or winning >:( seriously??? that is your argument?  if they had seen it they WOULD have remembered it. The only credible explanation is that they hadn't seen it. you are better than to be sucked into the vortex of pro-labor idiocy that spends a couple days debating a stupid menu that no one saw while the economy slides down the toilet. it is in fact the ultimate commentary on Labor losing the plot that sexism and a stupid menu occupy their days - neither of which are a problem to anyone at all.

Yes I am & I'm also better than to blindly accept a hastily cobbled together excuse as the gospel truth.
Can I ask the difference between this & Slipper?
Quite a few are pointing out the similarities, private joke between 2 people released to the media.
Where are your posts urging the opposition to get on with the job of holding the government to account instead of focusing on a private vulgar joke?

I'm better, I thought you were too.

uh huh...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/head_up_your_ass2.jpg

thanks to KJT for reminding me.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:46am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:04am: I've had the pleasure of meeting Julie Bishop in the last year at an Australian-American Chamber of Commerce event that she guest speaker'd along with Josh Frydenberg. She was informative about the oil and gas industry, she understood the concerns of industry and the pressure we are under on costs and spoke really well of easing the burdens we face on regulation redtape and lack of grant fundings. I was nothing other than impressed with her. She also looked immaculate for 7am. So mantra, your comments really don't match the person I met at all. mantra is a LW prog hater, Andrei... she still obsesses over Howard and what she thinks of Abbott is largely unrepeatable.  Don't expect logic or rationality there. i can provide quotes.  ;D

Is it possible for you to actually post anything political instead of your usual off topic rhetoric. Attack the post - not the poster.

The rusted on denial you speak of seems to be coming pretty much from the Abbott supporters.
Yesterday we had all the libs singing from the same handbook that they had been coached to by the party spin doctors.
"infantile prank", I don't remember seeing that" etc.
There was no, outraged denial, as we would certainly have gotten if they really did have no knowledge of this menu, as they now claim.

The restaurant owner taking the fall now seems way to pat and the only people who would accept his story without question are those prepared to put their own common sense aside because it is easier than asking the relevant questions that this demands.

If it was a private joke between him and his sons, how did staff get a hold of printed copies?
Did he make any copies to share his clever joke with any people other than his sons?
If so, who, when, and where?

I do not take this man's word, because what he has said so far, does not make adequate sense.

John S wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:04am: I've had the pleasure of meeting Julie Bishop in the last year at an Australian-American Chamber of Commerce event that she guest speaker'd along with Josh Frydenberg. She was informative about the oil and gas industry, she understood the concerns of industry and the pressure we are under on costs and spoke really well of easing the burdens we face on regulation redtape and lack of grant fundings. I was nothing other than impressed with her. She also looked immaculate for 7am. So mantra, your comments really don't match the person I met at all. What that got to do with what the thread about dickhead. Get back to South Africa where you belong and pray for Nelson Mandela he needs all your prayers

It was a direct response to a post made by Mantra you imbecile.

LW is correct though, your English is utterly atrocious.
My 5 year old has a better command than you.

You may want to start with the sentence at the bottom of all your posts - unless you really don't have "a problems".

My favourite from you still remains though your references to the former German leader "Hilter".

People like you really shouldn't post on public forums.

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

The rusted on denial you speak of seems to be coming pretty much from the Abbott supporters. Yesterday we had all the libs singing from the same handbook that they had been coached to by the party spin doctors. "infantile prank", I don't remember seeing that" etc. There was no, outraged denial, as we would certainly have gotten if they really did have no knowledge of this menu, as they now claim. The restaurant owner taking the fall now seems way to pat and the only people who would accept his story without question are those prepared to put their own common sense aside because it is easier than asking the relevant questions that this demands. If it was a private joke between him and his sons, how did staff get a hold of printed copies? Did he make any copies to share his clever joke with any people other than his sons? If so, who, when, and where? I do not take this man's word, because what he has said so far, does not make adequate sense.

You may want to refer to the Editor of the Herald Sun Damon Johnston, Mozza.

He rated it this morning as "nothing more than a Page 9 story".

lol

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:11pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:03pm: The rusted on denial you speak of seems to be coming pretty much from the Abbott supporters. Yesterday we had all the libs singing from the same handbook that they had been coached to by the party spin doctors. "infantile prank", I don't remember seeing that" etc. There was no, outraged denial, as we would certainly have gotten if they really did have no knowledge of this menu, as they now claim. The restaurant owner taking the fall now seems way to pat and the only people who would accept his story without question are those prepared to put their own common sense aside because it is easier than asking the relevant questions that this demands. If it was a private joke between him and his sons, how did staff get a hold of printed copies? Did he make any copies to share his clever joke with any people other than his sons? If so, who, when, and where? I do not take this man's word, because what he has said so far, does not make adequate sense. You may want to refer to the Editor of the Herald Sun Damon Johnston, Mozza. He rated it this morning as "nothing more than a Page 9 story".

The "Herald Sun".

;D

That's the "news"paper with an Andrew Bolt column, right?

;D

This gets funnier by the day.

"The restaurant owner and the editor of the Herald Sun said so. It must be true!"

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:11pm: mozzaok wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:03pm: The rusted on denial you speak of seems to be coming pretty much from the Abbott supporters. Yesterday we had all the libs singing from the same handbook that they had been coached to by the party spin doctors. "infantile prank", I don't remember seeing that" etc. There was no, outraged denial, as we would certainly have gotten if they really did have no knowledge of this menu, as they now claim. The restaurant owner taking the fall now seems way to pat and the only people who would accept his story without question are those prepared to put their own common sense aside because it is easier than asking the relevant questions that this demands. If it was a private joke between him and his sons, how did staff get a hold of printed copies? Did he make any copies to share his clever joke with any people other than his sons? If so, who, when, and where? I do not take this man's word, because what he has said so far, does not make adequate sense. You may want to refer to the Editor of the Herald Sun Damon Johnston, Mozza. He rated it this morning as "nothing more than a Page 9 story". The "Herald Sun". ;D That's the "news"paper with an Andrew Bolt column, right? ;D This gets funnier by the day. "The restaurant owner and the editor from the Herald Sun said so - it must be true!"

That's right. Alan doesn't think it's a story either. It's just typical leftard temper-tantrums.

A complete distraction from real political issues - as usual. Meanwhile, JuLiar is getting away with the most atrocious pants suits and those ridiculous Dame Edna Everage glasses. To think she represents our country like this.

SHAME LABOR SHAME.

Brough should stand down from pre selection  and Matty should replace him, it is the only honourable thing to do. It won't happen though, phoney Tony is too afraid of Matty taking the leadership.

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

The rusted on denial you speak of seems to be coming pretty much from the Abbott supporters. Yesterday we had all the libs singing from the same handbook that they had been coached to by the party spin doctors. "infantile prank", I don't remember seeing that" etc. There was no, outraged denial, as we would certainly have gotten if they really did have no knowledge of this menu, as they now claim. The restaurant owner taking the fall now seems way to pat and the only people who would accept his story without question are those prepared to put their own common sense aside because it is easier than asking the relevant questions that this demands. If it was a private joke between him and his sons, how did staff get a hold of printed copies? Did he make any copies to share his clever joke with any people other than his sons? If so, who, when, and where? I do not take this man's word, because what he has said so far, does not make adequate sense.

no Mozz...  it is the denial in the face of reality.

What this man has said makes complete sense.

skippy. wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:26pm:

Brough should stand down from pre selection  and Matty should replace him, it is the only honourable thing to do. It won't happen though, phoney Tony is too afraid of Matty taking the leadership.

Agreed, Skippy. Mr Brough has already apologized. He should fall on his sword and allow Matty to take the seat. It's the only honourable thing to do.

I doubt Mr Abbott would be too happy, but if the Libs intend to govern in the interest of all Australians, they should preselect Matty - from Dunedin.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:26pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:03pm: The rusted on denial you speak of seems to be coming pretty much from the Abbott supporters. Yesterday we had all the libs singing from the same handbook that they had been coached to by the party spin doctors. "infantile prank", I don't remember seeing that" etc. There was no, outraged denial, as we would certainly have gotten if they really did have no knowledge of this menu, as they now claim. The restaurant owner taking the fall now seems way to pat and the only people who would accept his story without question are those prepared to put their own common sense aside because it is easier than asking the relevant questions that this demands. If it was a private joke between him and his sons, how did staff get a hold of printed copies? Did he make any copies to share his clever joke with any people other than his sons? If so, who, when, and where? I do not take this man's word, because what he has said so far, does not make adequate sense. no Mozz...  it is the denial in the face of reality. What this man has said makes complete sense.

Yet the reality says Brough or the owner is lying.  Brough made a statement at midday BEFORE the fall guy made his. YET the fall guy says he had no contact with Brough, so who is lying, Einstein?

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:44am:

That's rubbish Mozz. No one in their right mind LW or otherwise would keep on about this menu thing now the facts are out.  That is rusted-on denial or the way of Conspiranuts.

LOL

"the facts"   ;D

An email from the restaurant owner who hosted the Liberal Party dinner?

A restaurant owner who thought the menu was funny?

LOL

The guy has zero credibility.

"facts"   ;D  You're a funny guy Grendel.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:26pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:03pm: The rusted on denial you speak of seems to be coming pretty much from the Abbott supporters. Yesterday we had all the libs singing from the same handbook that they had been coached to by the party spin doctors. "infantile prank", I don't remember seeing that" etc. There was no, outraged denial, as we would certainly have gotten if they really did have no knowledge of this menu, as they now claim. The restaurant owner taking the fall now seems way to pat and the only people who would accept his story without question are those prepared to put their own common sense aside because it is easier than asking the relevant questions that this demands. If it was a private joke between him and his sons, how did staff get a hold of printed copies? Did he make any copies to share his clever joke with any people other than his sons? If so, who, when, and where? I do not take this man's word, because what he has said so far, does not make adequate sense. no Mozz...  it is the denial in the face of reality. What this man has said makes complete sense.

Utter Bulltish, this man is obviously lying, and what is worse is it is a dumb, crap lie.
IF HE WASN'T SUCH AN OBVIOUS FREAKIN CRETIN, HE COULD HAVE COME UP WITH A BETTER LIE, A CREDITABLE LIE.

His lie is predicated upon it being a private joke for him and his sons.

If you look at the whole menu, you might see down the bottom, "You will be served Liberal amounts of wine", does that sound like a joke intended for his son, or a joke to impress his liberal party buddies?

I do not believe this guy's story, and I doubt many, or any, reasonable people would.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:26pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:03pm: The rusted on denial you speak of seems to be coming pretty much from the Abbott supporters. Yesterday we had all the libs singing from the same handbook that they had been coached to by the party spin doctors. "infantile prank", I don't remember seeing that" etc. There was no, outraged denial, as we would certainly have gotten if they really did have no knowledge of this menu, as they now claim. The restaurant owner taking the fall now seems way to pat and the only people who would accept his story without question are those prepared to put their own common sense aside because it is easier than asking the relevant questions that this demands. If it was a private joke between him and his sons, how did staff get a hold of printed copies? Did he make any copies to share his clever joke with any people other than his sons? If so, who, when, and where? I do not take this man's word, because what he has said so far, does not make adequate sense. no Mozz...  it is the denial in the face of reality. What this man has said makes complete sense.

Absolute nonsense. Any Liberal fundraiser that didn't take the fight to Labor and Juliar's hideous red box would not be doing its job - raising funds for Mr Brough's preselection campaign and attacking the opposition's body parts.

Thoughts?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:10pm:

John S wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:14am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:04am: I've had the pleasure of meeting Julie Bishop in the last year at an Australian-American Chamber of Commerce event that she guest speaker'd along with Josh Frydenberg. She was informative about the oil and gas industry, she understood the concerns of industry and the pressure we are under on costs and spoke really well of easing the burdens we face on regulation redtape and lack of grant fundings. I was nothing other than impressed with her. She also looked immaculate for 7am. So mantra, your comments really don't match the person I met at all. What that got to do with what the thread about dickhead. Get back to South Africa where you belong and pray for Nelson Mandela he needs all your prayers It was a direct response to a post made by Mantra you imbecile. LW is correct though, your English is utterly atrocious. My 5 year old has a better command than you. You may want to start with the sentence at the bottom of all your posts - unless you really don't have "a problems". My favourite from you still remains though your references to the former German leader "Hilter". People like you really shouldn't post on public forums.

So you would be happy if only people with liberal views post on message boards? just goes to show how much of a dickhead you are andrei

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:33pm:

I do not believe this guy's story, and I doubt many, or any, reasonable people would.

Not even the Liberal sycophants in here believe it.

However, they'll continue to pretend to believe it for as long as it takes.

Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation.

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Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation.

That may be true, but it certainly indicates what utter flippin morons they have advising them.
I could have come up with a better lie in five minutes, that would have made them all look like heroes, and EVERYONE would have believed it.

Meanwhile another boat load of taliban misogynists sails into the harbour compliments of gillard.

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation.

This may be true, Alec, but you must admit that Matty is now the preferred candidate for Mr Brough's seat.

Thoughts?

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:48pm: Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation. That may be true, but it certainly indicates what utter flippin morons they have advising them. I could have come up with a better lie in five minutes, that would have made them all look like heroes, and EVERYONE would have believed it.

Like what?
If it was a lie it was a good one that was effective. Not justifiable by any means, but it has deflected the blame off of them.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:52am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:40am: Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:31am: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 11:19am: NO ONE at the event has said they ever saw it. No yesterdays line was they couldn't remember it, not they didn't see it. In fact Brough apoligised for something he now apparently knew nothing about Quote: ‘Mr Brough says the menu was drawn up by a non-party member who thought it would be “humorous” and “didn’t mean any harm by it,” but is now “deeply apologetic”.’ But you keep cheering for your footy team, just like those Bulldog supporters who blamed the girl at Coffs Habour, just like Im sure it was a set up of Tamou with the high range drink driving etc etc. Anything can be excused in the name of money or winning >:( seriously??? that is your argument?  if they had seen it they WOULD have remembered it. The only credible explanation is that they hadn't seen it. you are better than to be sucked into the vortex of pro-labor idiocy that spends a couple days debating a stupid menu that no one saw while the economy slides down the toilet. it is in fact the ultimate commentary on Labor losing the plot that sexism and a stupid menu occupy their days - neither of which are a problem to anyone at all. Yes I am & I'm also better than to blindly accept a hastily cobbled together excuse as the gospel truth. Can I ask the difference between this & Slipper? Quite a few are pointing out the similarities, private joke between 2 people released to the media. Where are your posts urging the opposition to get on with the job of holding the government to account instead of focusing on a private vulgar joke? I'm better, I thought you were too.

The story as told is the only really credible version of the truth. It is not really conceivable that the Libs would do it on their own as it is both out of character and paying to Gillards only perceived strength. That nobody has come forward - nobody -to say that the menu was distributed adds credibility to the story that it was never seen. You might like to believe such things but the facts and motivations of all involved fit the story as told.

Slipper has a long, sordid story of such behaviour of which the text is only one of dozens such incidents. THAT is why it is different.

According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it.

A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing?

What a surprise....     ::)

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 1:18pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:57pm: Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:48pm: Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation. That may be true, but it certainly indicates what utter flippin morons they have advising them. I could have come up with a better lie in five minutes, that would have made them all look like heroes, and EVERYONE would have believed it. Like what? If it was a lie it was a good one that was effective.

Exactly. We'll need a few more like this if we're going to overthrow the vile JuLiar. The woman can't lie straight in bed.

Take the blue tie issue. When was the last time we saw Mr Abbott in a blue tie?

Speedos,yes, but if I'm not mistaken his ties usually have some colour in them.

Thoughts?

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 1:31pm:

The story as told is the only really credible version of the truth.

PIGS ASS!


longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 1:31pm:

It is not really conceivable that the Libs would do it on their own as it is both out of character and paying to Gillards only perceived strength.

Until a few years ago I didn't think using the death of a parent was acceptable for anyone with ANY decency, let alone fit to be used as a joke/motivational talk at a Liberal Party Function by a "Well Respected"(???????) Broadcaster.
But there you go.


longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 1:31pm:

That nobody has come forward - nobody -to say that the menu was distributed adds credibility to the story that it was never seen

It was a liberal fund raiser as pointed out above why would they play into her hands?


longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 1:31pm:

You might like to believe such things but the facts and motivations of all involved fit the story as told.

Again, PIGS ASS, you might want to wrap it quickly & neatly but reasonable people will habour suspicions as they should.
Anyway don't worry its all a non story now anyway, it doesn't fit the Tony for PM mantra the corporate media want.
Had it been a Labor or Union function we could expect at least 3 weeks & miles of column inches of reporting.


longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 1:31pm:

Slipper has a long, sordid story of such behaviour of which the text is only one of dozens such incidents. THAT is why it is different.

Fully Known & endorsed by the Liberal Party & Tony Abbott himself, right up until the point he put self interest before Abbott's interest.

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation.

LOL

No it didn't.

Nobody believes a word of that email: not even the Libs.

Surely you're not that gullible.

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 1:31pm:

The story as told is the only really credible version of the truth.

http://the-yoga-connection.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Health-Benefits-of-Laughter-Yoga.png

Yes, Smithy, but Alan was only pointing out the truth. These fundraisers are an integral part of our democracy. If we didn't have Liberal fundraisers, how would these chaps get to speak out against the vile JuLiar?

PLEASE EXPLAIN.

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 1:38pm:

According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     ::)

Can you provide that quote? 

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation.

absolutely correct.
now they just look stupid.  at least they are maintaining a consistent look with the electorate.
who is advising julia,  honestly, is it the guys from the chaser doing some strange skit ;)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:31pm: The story as told is the only really credible version of the truth. http://the-yoga-connection.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Health-Benefits-of-Laughter-Yoga.png

you are correct greg, 

i'm laughing my head off at labor for continuing to run this. they truly are becoming laughable. 

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 3:44pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:48pm: Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation. absolutely correct. now they just look stupid.  at least they are maintaining a consistent look with the electorate. who is advising julia,  honestly, is it the guys from the chaser doing some strange skit ;)

Or a Liberal plant?

Thoughts?

far from apperaing statesman like and leadership material, labor are looking like brats in a kindergarden sand pit who are having a spat over a toy.

IT IS CHILDISH
THE ELECTORATE ARE OVER IT
YOU ARE LOSING VOTES EVERY TIME YOU MENTION IT.

Karnal wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 3:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 3:44pm: Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:48pm: Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation. absolutely correct. now they just look stupid.  at least they are maintaining a consistent look with the electorate. who is advising julia,  honestly, is it the guys from the chaser doing some strange skit ;) Or a Liberal plant? Thoughts?

karnal, despite your sarcasm (which i find very funny) you are a smart guy.
now, do you think labour look petty and childish carrying on about this.
an honest answer please.

btw, i do sometimes wonder about a liberal plant in her dept. ;)

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 3:17pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:31pm: The story as told is the only really credible version of the truth. http://the-yoga-connection.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Health-Benefits-of-Laughter-Yoga.png you are correct greg,

I know.  It's not like that's anything unusual, by the way.

The Libs have found their Lee Majors and all the little sycophants are buying his story.

This is hilarious.   ;D

The relevant function was in Brisbane on the 28th March.  Guess who else was in Brisbane that day.

Yep, good ol' Tone!

The time line tells all.  Either Richards is lying or Brough is.  Their stories are diametrically opposed.

Brough is coming under pressure locally.  There is a LNP function in his Fisher Electorate on Saturday, and I know there are Members who are asking out loud why they need to put up with the scandals which seem to centre around Brough when they could endorse someone with no baggage and still hold the seat.

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 1:38pm:

According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     ::)

Van Onselen is anti-Abbott
how soon they forget.  ::)

BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring.

Datalife wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     ::) Can you provide that quote?

Looks like no.  Ok, can ANYONE find this quote or what Freedman is talking about?

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:48pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     ::) Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  ::) BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring.

Van Onselen is like the electorate in general - he is anti-Abbott-Gillard.

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:37pm:

The relevant function was in Brisbane on the 28th March.  Guess who else was in Brisbane that day. Yep, good ol' Tone! The time line tells all.  Either Richards is lying or Brough is.  Their stories are diametrically opposed. Brough is coming under pressure locally.  There is a LNP function in his Fisher Electorate on Saturday, and I know there are Members who are asking out loud why they need to put up with the scandals which seem to centre around Brough when they could endorse someone with no baggage and still hold the seat.

yep truly amazing how yesterday good 'ol Tone can't remember but surely one of his 100s of advisors could've done the same liberal party web search.  Idiots.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:48pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     ::) Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  ::) BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring. Van Onselen is like the electorate in general - he is anti-Abbott-Gillard.

I guess that's why his anti-Abbott articles run about 10-1 then  ;D

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:37pm: The relevant function was in Brisbane on the 28th March.  Guess who else was in Brisbane that day. Yep, good ol' Tone! The time line tells all.  Either Richards is lying or Brough is.  Their stories are diametrically opposed. Brough is coming under pressure locally.  There is a LNP function in his Fisher Electorate on Saturday, and I know there are Members who are asking out loud why they need to put up with the scandals which seem to centre around Brough when they could endorse someone with no baggage and still hold the seat. yep truly amazing how yesterday good 'ol Tone can't remember but surely one of his 100s of advisors could've done the same liberal party web search.  Idiots.

oh dear a good old web search eh...  that tells you where Tony Abbott was 24 hours of the day.  I have no doubt he cannot recollect where he's been everyday for the last year or so.

I have no doubt that Hockey, Abbott and Glasson were together for part of the day but it is possible that Hockey went to the Brough event and Abbott went elsewhere.

But...   it is more interesting that Tony's twitter feed no longer has days 28/29/30/31 March....  :)

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:02pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:52pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:37pm: The relevant function was in Brisbane on the 28th March.  Guess who else was in Brisbane that day. Yep, good ol' Tone! The time line tells all.  Either Richards is lying or Brough is.  Their stories are diametrically opposed. Brough is coming under pressure locally.  There is a LNP function in his Fisher Electorate on Saturday, and I know there are Members who are asking out loud why they need to put up with the scandals which seem to centre around Brough when they could endorse someone with no baggage and still hold the seat. yep truly amazing how yesterday good 'ol Tone can't remember but surely one of his 100s of advisors could've done the same liberal party web search.  Idiots. oh dear a good old web search eh...  that tells you where Tony Abbott was 24 hours of the day.  I have no doubt he cannot recollect where he's been everyday for the last year or so. But...   it is more interesting that Tony's twitter feed no longer has days 28/29/30/31 March....  :)

well we sure as hell know he was in Brisbane with Hockey.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:51pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:48pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     ::) Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  ::) BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring. Van Onselen is like the electorate in general - he is anti-Abbott-Gillard. I guess that's why his anti-Abbott articles run about 10-1 then  ;D

Really? You'd like to present the evidence of that? Or will ti be "go have a look" and quickly scorrow away?  As much as I  don't like how Van Onselen reports, he is very much one of the few who is not pro-either and instead is just like the electorate, wanting a decent prime minister who isn't a wankjob or just plain incompetent.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:04pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 5:02pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:52pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:37pm: The relevant function was in Brisbane on the 28th March.  Guess who else was in Brisbane that day. Yep, good ol' Tone! The time line tells all.  Either Richards is lying or Brough is.  Their stories are diametrically opposed. Brough is coming under pressure locally.  There is a LNP function in his Fisher Electorate on Saturday, and I know there are Members who are asking out loud why they need to put up with the scandals which seem to centre around Brough when they could endorse someone with no baggage and still hold the seat. yep truly amazing how yesterday good 'ol Tone can't remember but surely one of his 100s of advisors could've done the same liberal party web search.  Idiots. oh dear a good old web search eh...  that tells you where Tony Abbott was 24 hours of the day.  I have no doubt he cannot recollect where he's been everyday for the last year or so. But...   it is more interesting that Tony's twitter feed no longer has days 28/29/30/31 March....  :) well we sure as hell know he was in Brisbane with Hockey.

you best read what I wrote again.

Oh and your reply was hardly anything like a refutation or explanation.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:04pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 5:02pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:52pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:37pm: The relevant function was in Brisbane on the 28th March.  Guess who else was in Brisbane that day. Yep, good ol' Tone! The time line tells all.  Either Richards is lying or Brough is.  Their stories are diametrically opposed. Brough is coming under pressure locally.  There is a LNP function in his Fisher Electorate on Saturday, and I know there are Members who are asking out loud why they need to put up with the scandals which seem to centre around Brough when they could endorse someone with no baggage and still hold the seat. yep truly amazing how yesterday good 'ol Tone can't remember but surely one of his 100s of advisors could've done the same liberal party web search.  Idiots. oh dear a good old web search eh...  that tells you where Tony Abbott was 24 hours of the day.  I have no doubt he cannot recollect where he's been everyday for the last year or so. But...   it is more interesting that Tony's twitter feed no longer has days 28/29/30/31 March....  :) well we sure as hell know he was in Brisbane with Hockey.

you best read what I wrote again.

Oh and your reply was hardly anything like a refutation or explanation.

I hate this site... fgs

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:05pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 5:00pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:51pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:48pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     ::) Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  ::) BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring. Van Onselen is like the electorate in general - he is anti-Abbott-Gillard. I guess that's why his anti-Abbott articles run about 10-1 then  ;D Really? You'd like to present the evidence of that? Or will ti be "go have a look" and quickly scorrow away?  As much as I  don't like how Van Onselen reports, he is very much one of the few who is not pro-either and instead is just like the electorate, wanting a decent prime minister who isn't a wankjob or just plain incompetent.

the evidence is in his articles since Abbott got the job....  I suggest you go read them or better yet get someone not so biased to read them...  I will yet again be vindicated.  ;D

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 5:05pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 5:00pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:51pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:48pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     ::) Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  ::) BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring. Van Onselen is like the electorate in general - he is anti-Abbott-Gillard. I guess that's why his anti-Abbott articles run about 10-1 then  ;D Really? You'd like to present the evidence of that? Or will ti be "go have a look" and quickly scorrow away?  As much as I  don't like how Van Onselen reports, he is very much one of the few who is not pro-either and instead is just like the electorate, wanting a decent prime minister who isn't a wankjob or just plain incompetent. the evidence is in his articles since Abbott got the job....  I suggest you go read them or better yet get someone not so biased to read them...  I will yet again be vindicated.  ;D

;D  looks like I guessed correct.

Datalife wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

Datalife wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 3:23pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     ::) Can you provide that quote?  Looks like no.  Ok, can ANYONE find this quote or what Freedman is talking about?

Still nothing? 

*note to self*  Take everything that Peter Freedman says in future with a great deal of skepticism towards its veracity.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 3:14pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:48pm: Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation. LOL No it didn't. Nobody believes a word of that email: not even the Libs. Surely you're not that gullible.

That's your opinion. Unless you have evidence to suggest that noone believes that email to be true...

Quote:

Grin  looks like I guessed correct.

no alevine  you are wrong as usual
and lazy just like Greens
why come here if you don't want to put in even a bit of effort and simply just spout rubbish instead.

John S wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:39am:

http://www.independentaustralia.net/Wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/LibMenu.jpg Menu at Mal Brough’s fundraiser. Quote: The media was buzzing all day yesterday about that menu. The mock menu allegedly created for a Mal Brough fundraiser back in March. The menu that refers to a number of Labor MPs ― but specifically to Prime Minister Julia Gillard in a highly offensive and sexist way. And by “media”, I mean all the media. Newspapers, TV, social media, radio ― it’s been everywhere,. Meanwhile, other stories  ‒ such as the 260 Target workers made redundant in Geelong ‒ seem to have slipped through the cracks. Last night, there was a twist in the tale. Apparently, Joe Richards ‒ the owner of the restaurant at which the fundraiser was held ‒ has claimed responsibility for the menu, and says it was an “in-joke” that was not used at the fundraiser at all. As reported on The Age website, Richards wrote a letter to Brough explaining the situation after seeing it reported on the evening news. Bullshit! And here’s why: At midday, this story, written by Latika Bourke, was released on the ABC website, with the headline screaming: ‘Liberal National Party candidate Mal Brough apologises for ‘offensive and sexist’ menu which mocked Julia Gillard’s body’. http://youtu.be/AexULbF5POY The third paragraph of the article states: ‘Mr Brough says the menu was drawn up by a non-party member who thought it would be “humorous” and “didn’t mean any harm by it,” but is now “deeply apologetic”.’ So. at midday, Brough was aware that the menu had been drawn up by a non-party member, who was now deeply apologetic. But wait … how could Brough have known this, if Richards didn’t contact him until later in the day? Remember, Richards didn’t write his letter to Brough until after seeing the story on the evening news. And in his letter, which was subsequently distributed by the LNP, he stated the following: As you know no one at the dinner was privy to such a menu, and it is so unfortunate that an in-house joke between myself and my son has caused you great problems and embarrassment. How, then, could Brough have known that Richards ‒ a non-party member ‒ was responsible for the menu when the ABC article was published at midday? It doesn’t add up. Brough made statements, reported at midday, containing details that he couldn’t have known until later in the day ― if he and Richards are to be believed. Unless it is just a flimsy fabrication to protect a highly protected candidate. I’ll let you be the judge of that. http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/08/12/1226114/045272-joe-richards.jpg ‘Smokin’ Joe Richards: menu author and LNP donor. (Image courtesy Courier-Mail.) http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/the-mal-brough-menugate-cover-up/

So Brough did know about the menu???

:-? :-? :-?

Indeed he clearly did Mr Perth.

Brough said he did not see it.
Hockey said he did not see it.
Richards says he created it and it was not distributed at the event
The media confronted Brough and said there was a menu, at "his" event... and showed/told him what it said.
He apologised for any offence and condemned it out of hand.
End of story.

Quote:

and showed/told him what it said.

Which one was it?  Facts you say are your currency, Mr Grendel.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:48pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring.

He co wrote the Howard book.

Was he anti Abbott before or after he worked for him?

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:51pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:48pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring. Van Onselen is like the electorate in general - he is anti-Abbott-Gillard. I guess that's why his anti-Abbott articles run about 10-1 then

Looking at his Australian articles it seems about 30 against Labor and around 2 mildly critical of a Lib.

Have a look if you doubt it.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/peter-van-onselen

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 6:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 3:14pm: Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 12:48pm: Regardless of whether it was true or not,, the email from the restaurant owner really took the wind out of the sails of Labor. They have nothing now, just speculation. LOL No it didn't. Nobody believes a word of that email: not even the Libs. Surely you're not that gullible. That's your opinion. Unless you have evidence to suggest that noone believes that email to be true...

Don't be silly.

Not even you believe that email: there's no way you're that gullible.

There's no way anyone would be that gullible.

Lies, lies, and more lies.  This has Liberal Party written all over it.

What a sad, pathetic bunch of filth they are.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:08pm:

Brough said he did not see it. Hockey said he did not see it. Richards says he created it and it was not distributed at the event The media confronted Brough and said there was a menu, at "his" event... and showed/told him what it said. He apologised for any offence and condemned it out of hand. End of story.

http://www.bubblews.com/assets/images/news/691468116_1362752921.jpg


"End of story"      ;D

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.81713.1329428063!/img/httpImage/gal-stupid-clinton-bill.jpg

He said it Grendel.  It must be true.  End of story.

;D

You're delightful Grendel, really.

It's disgusting that this correctly labelled, infantile, humour, is the sort of stuff that senior Libs find funny.
We know their cover up story is utter bulltish, and shame on anyone too biased by political prejudice to admit it.
I do believe that smokin joe probably wrote it, but I also believe there were a bunch of overpaid, overfed, and over intoxicated liberal blokes guffawing at it at Brough's dinner function for twenty die hard lib supporters ready to open their wallets for the cause.

They would have felt safe with no outsiders, maybe that they didn't tip well enough, was what brought them undone?

I've been to a Liberal fundraiser Mozza last year.

Our local Managing Director is a member of the Liberal 200 Club and invited a few of us along as a table for the company.

Actually the guys who attend are all pretty good.

As it happens, the person sat alongside me was one of our girls at work. Her dad's in the Liberals in QLD.

Nice food, normal menu, nice booze and some good speeches.

Dunno about you, but it sounds like a good time to me eh?  :)

And I would say that whilst I didn't find it roll on the floor laughter stuff, I thought it was mildly amusing and completely harmless.

And I'm not even a Liberal.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

And I would say that whilst I didn't find it roll on the floor laughter stuff, I thought it was mildly amusing and completely harmless. And I'm not even a Liberal.

No. You’re a leftard.

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:12pm:

We know their cover up story is utter bulltish, and shame on anyone too biased by political prejudice to admit it.

There's not a person alive who believes the cover up email.

However, there's also not a single wretched Liberal supporter alive who would ever have the balls to admit it.

Just when you thought they couldn't get any lower ...

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

... I thought it was mildly amusing ...

Enough said.

This is what we're dealing with here folks.   ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:22pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 8:12pm: We know their cover up story is utter bulltish, and shame on anyone too biased by political prejudice to admit it. There's not a person alive who believes the cover up email. However, there's also not a single wretched Liberal supporter alive who would ever have the balls to admit it. Just when you thought they couldn't get any lower ...

they can get lower greg,  by showing themselves to be sooky  cry babies, federal labor will get lower, probably to about 28 %.  ;)

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Labor identities linked to Julia Gillard menu gate row LABOR powerbroker Bill Ludwig and former state Labor MP Con Sciacca are close associates of Brisbane businessman Joe Richards, who admitted writing the offensive menu at a fundraiser for LNP candidate Mal Brough. Both sides of politics have distanced themselves from the menu, which made crude references to Prime Minister Julia Gillard's body. Mr Richards has donated to the LNP but also has close ties with Labor figures in Queensland. Mr Ludwig refused to comment on the menu and said he did not attend the fundraiser. Asked about his well-known relationship with Mr Richards, Mr Ludwig said he was friends with "many people". The menu was leaked the day after Ms Gillard delivered a blistering speech claiming the Coalition would "banish" women from public life and make abortion a "political plaything" if it won the election. The opposition claims it did not authorise the offensive document and has distributed an email from Mr Richards apologising for the "mock menu". [...] http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/labor-identities-linked-to-julia-gillard-menu-gate-row/story-fnihsrk2-1226663209949

Did Joe Ludwig or Con  Sciacca order anything on the menu? What did they eat? Things that make you go mmmmmmmmmm.

oooops.

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:12pm:

It's disgusting that this correctly labelled, infantile, humour, is the sort of stuff that senior Libs find funny. We know their cover up story is utter bulltish, and shame on anyone too biased by political prejudice to admit it. I do believe that smokin joe probably wrote it, but I also believe there were a bunch of overpaid, overfed, and over intoxicated liberal blokes guffawing at it at Brough's dinner function for twenty die hard lib supporters ready to open their wallets for the cause. They would have felt safe with no outsiders, maybe that they didn't tip well enough, was what brought them undone?

You should stop posting unsupported rubbish.  ::)
People will think you really believe it and your credibility will forever be shot.

Yeah Mozzaok, leave the unsupported rubbish to Gretel Grendel

Dnarever wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:39pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:48pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring. He co wrote the Howard book. Was he anti Abbott before or after he worked for him?

After...  didn't you know?

You people really need to bone up on your Australian politics.

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:12pm:

It's disgusting that this correctly labelled, infantile, humour, is the sort of stuff that senior Libs find funny.

Not surprising in the slightest though.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:08pm:

Brough said he did not see it. Hockey said he did not see it. Richards says he created it and it was not distributed at the event The media confronted Brough and said there was a menu, at "his" event... and showed/told him what it said. He apologised for any offence and condemned it out of hand. End of story.

not quite

https://twitter.com/geeksrulz/status/345066412483674112/photo/1

Dnarever wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 5:00pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:51pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:48pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring. Van Onselen is like the electorate in general - he is anti-Abbott-Gillard. I guess that's why his anti-Abbott articles run about 10-1 then  Looking at his Australian articles it seems about 30 against Labor and around 2 mildly critical of a Lib. Have a look if you doubt it. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/peter-van-onselen

Don't have to... I've been reading them for years... how many did you go back, a few current ones critical of labor doesn't make them the modal tenure of his articles.

He's been anti Abbott since they parted company.
Anyone with  any sense can assure you of that.

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:43pm:

Yeah Mozzaok, leave the unsupported rubbish to Gretel Grendel

I hear he did well at the recent award ceremony:

http://www.foe.co.uk/imgs/TalkingRubbish_313.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/head_up_your_ass2.jpg

:)

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 7:50pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 5:00pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:51pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:48pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 1:38pm: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it. A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing? What a surprise....     Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  BTW the menu is pathetic and well worth ignoring. Van Onselen is like the electorate in general - he is anti-Abbott-Gillard. I guess that's why his anti-Abbott articles run about 10-1 then  Looking at his Australian articles it seems about 30 against Labor and around 2 mildly critical of a Lib. Have a look if you doubt it. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/peter-van-onselen Don't have to... I've been reading them for years... how many did you go back, a few current ones critical of labor doesn't make them the modal tenure of his articles. He's been anti Abbott since they parted company. Anyone with  any sense can assure you of that.

Thats like claiming that Joe Hockey is anti Abbott. .... Hockey might prefer Turnbull over Abbott, but that hardly makes Hockey left leaning now does it?

Well John...  you'll have to actually read all his articles first.
like I have. ;)

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:55pm:

Well John...  you'll have to actually read all his articles first. like I have. ;)

reading is one thing, understanding whats written in front of you is another.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 8:22pm:

mozzaok wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 8:12pm: We know their cover up story is utter bulltish, and shame on anyone too biased by political prejudice to admit it. There's not a person alive who believes the cover up email. However, there's also not a single wretched Liberal supporter alive who would ever have the balls to admit it. Just when you thought they couldn't get any lower ...

So you have proof of this? Awesome, sharing is caring.

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 8:22pm: mozzaok wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 8:12pm: We know their cover up story is utter bulltish, and shame on anyone too biased by political prejudice to admit it. Just when you thought they couldn't get any lower ... So you have proof of this? Awesome, sharing is caring.

No, unfortunately I don't have proof that they can't get any lower.

Actually, my guess is that we'll see even more disgusting incidents from that filth before the year is out.

But hey, that's the Liberal Party for you.

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:55pm: Well John...  you'll have to actually read all his articles first. like I have. ;) reading is one thing, understanding whats written in front of you is another.

Come on - give him a chance.

http://www.sterlingtimes.org/dick_and_dora2.jpg

John Smith wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:55pm: Well John...  you'll have to actually read all his articles first. like I have. ;) reading is one thing, understanding whats written in front of you is another.

First in my class at English...  I'm fine thanks.
Comprehension aok.
How about you?  ;D

You need to stop making excuses all the time
1/ It bores me
2/ It isn't the truth.

Alec...  Pec doesn't have anything.
Oh...  except his mindless bias.

Even posting facts get ignored.

http://www.fourwinds10.net/resources/uploads/images/stupidity.jpg

I figure there is no real point in addressing him personally.  A waste of time and effort, better placed elsewhere.

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 8:22pm: mozzaok wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 8:12pm: We know their cover up story is utter bulltish, and shame on anyone too biased by political prejudice to admit it. There's not a person alive who believes the cover up email. However, there's also not a single wretched Liberal supporter alive who would ever have the balls to admit it. Just when you thought they couldn't get a9ny lower ... So you have proof of this? Awesome, sharing is caring.

PROOF PLEASE, LEFTARDS.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:58pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:55pm: Well John...  you'll have to actually read all his articles first. like I have. ;) reading is one thing, understanding whats written in front of you is another. First in my class at English...  .

Really? Matty came first in English too.

I hope you two weren’t in the same class, Grendel. Which school.was that?

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

A waste of time and effort, better placed elsewhere.

Absolutely, like your remedial English classes at night school.

Good to hear you came first in your class.  Well done you.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uAqV7ZQSy-Y/TsqvvD9vUiI/AAAAAAAAAlM/nk-K6MIOcy0/s1600/gold_star-850.jpg

http://media2.apnonline.com.au/img/media/images/2013/06/13/twitter_t620.png

Its already dying down. Another 10 pages here won't change that fact.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:24pm:

Even posting facts get ignored.

Post one, and we'll see what happens.

So far, all you've posted are lies.

Over to you princess ...

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:52pm:

Its already dying down. Another 10 pages here won't change that fact.

True.
This is really not an important issue at all.

What is important is the fact the Government has increased debt by 334% in their time in power and failed to deliver a single surplus in their entire time of office.

Let's weigh up a Government's performance or concentrate on what a menu in a restaurant said eh?

I know what Gillard would be hoping but it's not going to happen love.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 11:37pm:

Phallic Baldwin wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:52pm: Its already dying down. Another 10 pages here won't change that fact. True. This is really not an important issue at all. What is important is the fact the Government has increased debt by 334% in their time in power and failed to deliver a single surplus in their entire time of office. Let's weigh up a Government's performance or concentrate on what a menu in a restaurant said eh? I know what Gillard would be hoping but it's not going to happen love.

Liberal State Governments are also running deficits and racking up debt Andre.....If the Federal Government has no excuse for running deficits how do you justify the States being in the same predicament.....Troy Buzwell will be the first WA treasurer to deliver a deficit in two decades.....Care to explain how this could happen when the Liberals are supposed to be good economic managers???

:-? :-? :-?

No political party are great economic managers - they all run deficits and spend tax payers money on their interests.

Staff member raises some pertinent points that the MSM didn't bother to investigate.

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The big story here is why the media have dropped the issue of senior libs lying to cover their behaviour?
Has anyone tried to verify the fairytale sold as facts that Grendel deems to be all he needs to know?


Has the person responsible for the tweet been interviewed to verify their story?
Have other staff present been interviewed?

Maybe coming first in English class is not enough to facilitate a capacity for critical thinking?
I doubt that is the case though, I am afraid it is as I speculated earlier, that some people should be ashamed of their position, because it is held not because they believe it true, but because it is politically expedient.

Labor could learn a lot about muddying the waters from the Libs.

The Libs look to be as dirty and dishonest as you could imagine on this but have put enough mud in the water for the media to work with and diseminate in their support and more than enough to make the fiathfull happy and content with the majority of the uneducated population just left too confused to bother.

Great job caught in the bogger with their pants down and come out smelling of roses.

The post was on Hoopla and the poster is being contacted by the sites admins to ascertain the veracity of the claims.

You are right Mozzoak, the issue here is about the lying and cover up of this cheap schoolboy vulgarity. Pathetic and cowardly.

Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:58pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:55pm: Well John...  you'll have to actually read all his articles first. like I have. ;) reading is one thing, understanding whats written in front of you is another. First in my class at English...  I'm fine thanks. Comprehension aok. How about you?  ;D You need to stop making excuses all the time 1/ It bores me 2/ It isn't the truth.

Your the one who seems to think that one thing means another. He may prefer Turnbull or some other lib to Abbott, but that certainly doesn't make him left leaning. Tell me again how you came first in English

(by the way, your kindergarten results don't count)

Dr Brown wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

The post was on Hoopla and the poster is being contacted by the sites admins to ascertain the veracity of the claims. You are right Mozzoak, the issue here is about the lying and cover up of this cheap schoolboy vulgarity. Pathetic and cowardly.

Schoolboy? How dare you. Mr Brough is an ex-Howard minister with years of experience in federal politics.

But of course, his preselection needs a little tweaking. Matty is a politician of far higher standing in the community.

His return will be thunderous.

John Smith wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:01am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:19pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:58pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:55pm: Well John...  you'll have to actually read all his articles first. like I have. ;) reading is one thing, understanding whats written in front of you is another. First in my class at English...  I'm fine thanks. Comprehension aok. How about you?  ;D You need to stop making excuses all the time 1/ It bores me 2/ It isn't the truth. Your the one who seems to think that one thing means another. He may prefer Turnbull or some other lib to Abbott, but that certainly doesn't make him left leaning. Tell me again how you came first in English (by the way, your kindergarten results don't count)

Grendel: What country were you in when you studied english? I think I see some mid Asian engrish in your accent.

Dnarever wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:08am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:01am: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:19pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:58pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:55pm: Well John...  you'll have to actually read all his articles first. like I have. ;) reading is one thing, understanding whats written in front of you is another. First in my class at English...  I'm fine thanks. Comprehension aok. How about you?  ;D You need to stop making excuses all the time 1/ It bores me 2/ It isn't the truth. Your the one who seems to think that one thing means another. He may prefer Turnbull or some other lib to Abbott, but that certainly doesn't make him left leaning. Tell me again how you came first in English (by the way, your kindergarten results don't count) Grendel: What country were you in when you studied english? I think I see some mid Asian engrish in your accent.

Did I say left leaning?
OMG...  nope.

Whom is having English problems John?

BTW Turnbull is a prog mod in the Libs he should be leader of the labor party.  that would solve a few problems he certainly doesn't represent conservative views within the liberal party.  That's why so many labor supporters favour him.

Excuse me DNA whilst I ignore your stupidity.

Oh and Mozz the reason the media have dropped this is because they've realised it is a dead issue no matter how hard rusted-on progs want to make more of the beat-up.  ;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 10:40pm:

http://media2.apnonline.com.au/img/media/images/2013/06/13/twitter_t620.png

Apparently she never worked there.

Now that is a pretty big and provable lie if it is a lie.

So far the media have continued to follow the facts and the issue is a dead end.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/head_up_your_ass2.jpg

pec, pec, pec....

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:40pm: http://media2.apnonline.com.au/img/media/images/2013/06/13/twitter_t620.png Apparently she never worked there. Now that is a pretty big and provable lie if it is a lie. So far the media have continued to follow the facts and the issue is a dead end. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/head_up_your_ass2.jpg pec, pec, pec....

So how do you know this?

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:08am: John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:01am: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:19pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:58pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:55pm: Well John...  you'll have to actually read all his articles first. like I have. ;) reading is one thing, understanding whats written in front of you is another. First in my class at English...  I'm fine thanks. Comprehension aok. How about you?  ;D You need to stop making excuses all the time 1/ It bores me 2/ It isn't the truth. Your the one who seems to think that one thing means another. He may prefer Turnbull or some other lib to Abbott, but that certainly doesn't make him left leaning. Tell me again how you came first in English (by the way, your kindergarten results don't count) Grendel: What country were you in when you studied english? I think I see some mid Asian engrish in your accent. Did I say left leaning? OMG...  nope. Whom is having English problems John? BTW Turnbull is a prog mod in the Libs he should be leader of the labor party.  that would solve a few problems he certainly doesn't represent conservative views within the liberal party.  That's why so many labor supporters favour him. Excuse me DNA whilst I ignore your stupidity. Oh and Mozz the reason the media have dropped this is because they've realised it is a dead issue no matter how hard rusted-on progs want to make more of the beat-up.  ;D

Excuse me DNA whilst I ignore your stupidity.

That’s OK: My Joke about your engrish or the fact that I don't rate Turnbull as much of an improvement over Abbott?

that would solve a few problems he certainly doesn't represent conservative views within the liberal party.

No he is not represented by the distance to the right the Liberals have moved the past decade and a half, He would be more in the traditional Peacock, Frazer, Menzies type moderate right mould.

Dr Brown wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:00am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:51am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:40pm: http://media2.apnonline.com.au/img/media/images/2013/06/13/twitter_t620.png Apparently she never worked there. Now that is a pretty big and provable lie if it is a lie. So far the media have continued to follow the facts and the issue is a dead end. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/head_up_your_ass2.jpg pec, pec, pec.... So how do you know this?

Ah don't you think it would be easy to prove one way or another?
Richard's said she never worked there.
He'd be sticking his neck right out if she did.
Not that I think he's the brightest light-bulb on the xmas tree.

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:40pm: http://media2.apnonline.com.au/img/media/images/2013/06/13/twitter_t620.png Apparently she never worked there.

More lies from the restaurant owner.

And Grendel takes it hook, line and sinker once again.   ;D


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_LXxSHtFuqSo/TH6Cx8ikHOI/AAAAAAAAAZY/PsuAwBP6E3o/s1600/Do+you+want+to+buy+a+bridge.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 11:47am:

Grendel wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:51am: [quote author=greggerypeccary link=1371076799/133#133 date=1371127226] Apparently she never worked there. More lies from the restaurant owner. And Grendel takes it hook, line and sinker once again.   ;D

you are an idiot...

Is that you and the bridge you bought.

You need to start posting evidence or those things you claim to work with FACTS...

so far, hot air and "gratuitous abuse" is all you've been capable of.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2546/4013529197_ab6316ecf7.jpg

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

you are an idiot...

Personal insults now.

Showing your true colours there my boy.

Tsk tsk   ::)


http://www.sydesjokes.com/pictures/g/gullibility_test.jpg

Pec, pec, pec...

all you post are insults.  ::)

mostly to people's intelligence.  :)

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 6:29pm:

Pec, pec, pec... all you post are insults.  ::)

No insults, just good advice.

This is totally legit:

http://storecoach.com/bridge-for-sale.jpg


A restaurant owner told me it was all above board, so it must be a genuine sale.

Let me know how you go.  Cheers   ;)

http://www.allmystery.de/i/t33d4df_shot_down_owned.gif

yet again you keep proving me right.  ;D ;D ;D

Grendel wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 1:49am:

http://www.allmystery.de/i/t33d4df_shot_down_owned.gif yet again you keep proving me right.  ;D ;D ;D

Absolutely.

I keep proving that you're the most gullible person in this forum.  That's right.

How did the bridge sale go?  Did you have to swallow to seal the deal?

Grendel wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 10:48am:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:08am: John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:01am: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 10:19pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:58pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 9:55pm: Well John...  you'll have to actually read all his articles first. like I have. ;) reading is one thing, understanding whats written in front of you is another. First in my class at English...  I'm fine thanks. Comprehension aok. How about you?  ;D You need to stop making excuses all the time 1/ It bores me 2/ It isn't the truth. Your the one who seems to think that one thing means another. He may prefer Turnbull or some other lib to Abbott, but that certainly doesn't make him left leaning. Tell me again how you came first in English (by the way, your kindergarten results don't count) Grendel: What country were you in when you studied english? I think I see some mid Asian engrish in your accent. Did I say left leaning? OMG...  nope. so you agree he is right leaning then, and your first point was a waste of time? Whom is having English problems John? you, you seem to get easily confused BTW Turnbull is a prog mod in the Libs he should be leader of the labor party.  that would solve a few problems he certainly doesn't represent conservative views within the liberal party.  That's why so many labor supporters favour him. Excuse me DNA whilst I ignore your stupidity. Oh and Mozz the reason the media have dropped this is because they've realised it is a dead issue no matter how hard rusted-on progs want to make more of the beat-up.  ;D

Quote:

Did I say left leaning? OMG...  nope.

so you agree he is right leaning then, and your first point was a waste of time?

Ah I never spoke of his political leanings at all.  I said he was anti-Abbott.  He doesn't like Abbott his articles show that in their bias.


Quote:

Whom is having English problems John?

you, you seem to get easily confused

yet I just easily showed you are the confused one

This was the original comment that sparked your stupidity


Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it.A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing?What a surprise....

this was your response


Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:48pm:

Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.

the fact that he may prefer other liberals ahead of Abbott does not make him anti liberal. I personally don't think Jenny Macklin would make a good PM, but that doesn't mean my comments are going to be pro Abbott if she were to suddenly become leader of the labor party. 

Like I said, your original comment was wrong, it was just more chaff to hide the bullsh1t that is Gretel Grendel.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 1:44pm:

This was the original comment that sparked your stupidity

My stupidity? Yet you are the one misquoting and failing to comprehend plain English.


Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it.A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing?What a surprise....

Ah that was not my words....  so don't attribute them to me.


Quote:

this was your response[quote] Grendel wrote on Jun 13th, 2013 at 4:48pm: Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.  yep... [quote]the fact that he may prefer other liberals ahead of Abbott does not make him anti liberal. I personally don't think Jenny Macklin would make a good PM, but that doesn't mean my comments are going to be pro Abbott if she were to suddenly become leader of the labor party.  Like I said, your original comment was wrong, it was just more chaff to hide the bullsh1t that is Gretel Grendel.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm sorry... you just proved yourself wrong...  once again.


Grendel wrote on Jun 13^th, 2013 at 4:48pm:

Van Onselen is anti-Abbott how soon they forget.

Your quote of my words...  please show me where, I said Van Onselen was of the Left or anti-liberal?  Keep buildin’ them strawmen… you still won’t win the argument, with lies.

You felt a need to point out that he was anti Abbott like it had some sort of relevence to Gregorys post. .... it wasn't me building strawmen ... I simply callled you up on it.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

You felt a need to point out that he was anti Abbott like it had some sort of relevence to Gregorys post. .... it wasn't me building strawmen ... I simply callled you up on it.

:D :D :D

So you are backing down now?
without apologising... ::)

Fine.

I merely pointed out that VO is biased/prejudiced against Abbott.
Do you think that affects his portrayal of the Coalition?


Quote:

According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it.A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing?What a surprise....

I also commented further on that.
But my VO comment is totally relevant.
He has been very critical of Abbott... since Abbott came into the leadership.  The above quote paints an entirely different picture now doesn't it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2013 at 6:50pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 6:29pm: Pec, pec, pec... all you post are insults.  ::) No insults, just good advice. This is totally legit: http://storecoach.com/bridge-for-sale.jpg A restaurant owner told me it was all above board, so it must be a genuine sale. Let me know how you go.  Cheers   ;)

http://storecoach.com/bridge-for-sale.jpg


How much is your bridge and will it reach over Grendels river?

Grendel wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 3:03pm: You felt a need to point out that he was anti Abbott like it had some sort of relevence to Gregorys post. .... it wasn't me building strawmen ... I simply callled you up on it. :D :D :D So you are backing down now? without apologising... ::) Fine. I merely pointed out that VO is biased/prejudiced against Abbott. Do you think that affects his portrayal of the Coalition? Quote: According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it.A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing?What a surprise....  I also commented further on that. But my VO comment is totally relevant. He has been very critical of Abbott... since Abbott came into the leadership.  The above quote paints an entirely different picture now doesn't it.

Who's backing down? simple English escapes you doesn't it?  the whole time I was trying to tell you that your comment was irrelevant, and it still is ... it doesn't matter if he is anti abbott, he is still pro liberal ....

stop taking whatever drugs you are taking.

Whilst you are arguing I asked for a reference for this, from the person who wrote it, or from anyone else who can find it.

I couldn't find it.  You may be arguing about nothing cos so far and unless proven wrong I have tagged it as bullshit. 


Quote:

According to today's Australian, Peter van Onselen received a copy of the menu and ignored it.A senior writer on a pro Liberal newspaper receives a good story critical of the Libs and does nothing?What a surprise....

Ok
Your an idiot John
there happy now?

At no time have I stated that Van Onselen was pro or anti Liberal.

You gotta admit what being anti-Abbott has gotta mean in terms of the articles he writes though.  ;D ;D ;D
and it wasn't what the writer of the quote I commented on was inferring  ;D

Quote:

But Brough now insists he apologised not because he had seen the menu, but because the distribution of it at the function was presented to him as “a fait accompli”. “I wasn’t to know that [the document] wasn’t there,” Brough said on Thursday. Apologising, he said, “was the decent thing to do” in the circumstances. [quote]“I never saw any menu. [But there] could well have been something I hadn’t seen. There are 20 people in a room. You get confronted with a document that is real and told that it’s happened, only to find out that it hasn’t happened,” Brough said.

Peter freedman said it was in The Australian on june 13th.


Quote:

The man who first released the picture of the offending menu to social media sites, David Carter, said he had seen the menu on the Facebook page of the restaurant’s executive chef. Carter said he “tried to send a message” to both the prime minister via her Facebook page, and News Limited commentator Peter van Onselen, because he was concerned about the content.

So far no confirmation.  Carter the ALP acolyte who’d rather be raped by a pitbull with rabies than have Abbott as PM, says he tried to send a message.

So far I haven't seen PVO saying any such thing.
So far.  But I may have missed it in the age of paper pay per view.

Quote:

The photo was originally posted by Twitter user @Chef09876, who gave his name only as “Dave” when contacted by The Australian Financial Review. He said he had seen the image on the Facebook page of another employee from the restaurant and decided to share it on the social network. “I just copied it. I tried to tweet it after the function, to send it to Julia Gillard, the Labor party, [Sky news presenter] Peter Van Onselen gee I wonder why he'd send it to that Liberal stalwart PVO  ;D and Kevin Rudd, my local member, but I didn’t get a reply from any of them. I don’t know if they were too busy to notice them at the time,’’ he said. “Dave” has subsequently clarified on Twitter that he did not attempt to contact Mr Rudd.

A truly reliable and unbiased source if I have ever seen one.  ;D ;D ;D

Grendel wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Ok Your an idiot John there happy now? At no time have I stated that Van Onselen was pro or anti Liberal. You gotta admit what being anti-Abbott has gotta mean in terms of the articles he writes though.  ;D ;D ;D and it wasn't what the writer of the quote I commented on was inferring  ;D

so you normally reply to peoples comments by making your own random unrelated comments that you pluck out of thin air ? and you call me an idiot ..... you moron!

Grendel wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 7:11pm:

Quote: The photo was originally posted by Twitter user @Chef09876, who gave his name only as “Dave” when contacted by The Australian Financial Review. He said he had seen the image on the Facebook page of another employee from the restaurant and decided to share it on the social network. “I just copied it. I tried to tweet it after the function, to send it to Julia Gillard, the Labor party, [Sky news presenter] Peter Van Onselen gee I wonder why he'd send it to that Liberal stalwart PVO  ;D and Kevin Rudd, my local member, but I didn’t get a reply from any of them. I don’t know if they were too busy to notice them at the time,’’ he said. “Dave” has subsequently clarified on Twitter that he did not attempt to contact Mr Rudd. A truly reliable and unbiased source if I have ever seen one.  ;D ;D ;D

the guy who originally posted the photo? of course he's unreliable ...

not like your sources right? each one peddling in 2nd and 3rd hand information that a friend of a friend of the neighbours dog told them , they are much more reliable right?   I repeat, you are a moron.

Glad to see people still concerned with the major issues facing Australia!

<head in hands>

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:06pm:

Glad to see people still concerned with the major issues facing Australia! <head in hands>

not sure if you've noticed or not, but no one gives a sh1t what you think!

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:06pm:

Glad to see people still concerned with the major issues facing Australia! <head in hands>

Go start a Thread about them, Mr Hicks.  This Thread is about extremely poor conduct within the LNP.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:07pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:06pm: Glad to see people still concerned with the major issues facing Australia! <head in hands> not sure if you've noticed or not, but no one gives a sh1t what you think!

And we give a sh1t what you think why?

You and I are as Aussie as each other and its about what's right for this country.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion in our country.

I note in most threads you still seem incapable of making a point without insulting others.
What is it with your lot and bad manners?

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:06pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 7:11pm: Quote: The photo was originally posted by Twitter user @Chef09876, who gave his name only as “Dave” when contacted by The Australian Financial Review. He said he had seen the image on the Facebook page of another employee from the restaurant and decided to share it on the social network. “I just copied it. I tried to tweet it after the function, to send it to Julia Gillard, the Labor party, [Sky news presenter] Peter Van Onselen gee I wonder why he'd send it to that Liberal stalwart PVO  ;D and Kevin Rudd, my local member, but I didn’t get a reply from any of them. I don’t know if they were too busy to notice them at the time,’’ he said. “Dave” has subsequently clarified on Twitter that he did not attempt to contact Mr Rudd. A truly reliable and unbiased source if I have ever seen one.  ;D ;D ;D the guy who originally posted the photo? of course he's unreliable ... not like your sources right? each one peddling in 2nd and 3rd hand information that a friend of a friend of the neighbours dog told them , they are much more reliable right?   I repeat, you are a moron.

Wassup Johnboy?
No one coming to your rescue?
I can tell you why...  but you are in denial.

All I can say is that if I'm a moron...  what does that make you?  ;D

Grendel wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:27pm:

All I can say is that if I'm a moron...  what does that make you?  ;D

It makes him a perfectly normal individual.

Glad to see you admitted you're a moron though.  Good for you.




(did you buy that bridge yet?  It's totally legit: a restaurant owner told me so, and you know how reliable they are)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:07pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:06pm: Glad to see people still concerned with the major issues facing Australia! <head in hands> not sure if you've noticed or not, but no one gives a sh1t what you think! And we give a sh1t what you think why? You and I are as Aussie as each other and its about what's right for this country. Everyone is entitled to their opinion in our country. I note in most threads you still seem incapable of making a point without insulting others. What is it with your lot and bad manners?

the difference however, is that I don't give a bugger if anyone gives a sh1t ...  you on the other hand, you want people to noitice how wonderful and brilliant you are, and I'll bet that for you, being regarded as irrelevant must really burn you up. Thats why you spend so much time telling us how wonderful you are ... no one else will do it so you hope that someone may notice if you prompt them, but even then, no one has noticed or they've laughed at you . You really are a sad fvcker Andrei

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

I note in most threads you still seem incapable of making a point without insulting others

hypocrite ... how many times have you called me a wog you pathetic fvcker!

Grendel wrote on Jun 15^th, 2013 at 8:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:06pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 7:11pm: Quote: The photo was originally posted by Twitter user @Chef09876, who gave his name only as “Dave” when contacted by The Australian Financial Review. He said he had seen the image on the Facebook page of another employee from the restaurant and decided to share it on the social network. “I just copied it. I tried to tweet it after the function, to send it to Julia Gillard, the Labor party, [Sky news presenter] Peter Van Onselen gee I wonder why he'd send it to that Liberal stalwart PVO  ;D and Kevin Rudd, my local member, but I didn’t get a reply from any of them. I don’t know if they were too busy to notice them at the time,’’ he said. “Dave” has subsequently clarified on Twitter that he did not attempt to contact Mr Rudd. A truly reliable and unbiased source if I have ever seen one.  ;D ;D ;D the guy who originally posted the photo? of course he's unreliable ... not like your sources right? each one peddling in 2nd and 3rd hand information that a friend of a friend of the neighbours dog told them , they are much more reliable right?   I repeat, you are a moron. Wassup Johnboy? No one coming to your rescue? I can tell you why...  but you are in denial. All I can say is that if I'm a moron...  what does that make you?  ;D

why would I want anyone to come to my rescue? What makes you think I need rescuing? It's not like you had anything worthwhile to say, instead you spent the whole post just having a go at me.

But like Gregory says, good on you for admitting you are a moron ... progress at last.