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Message started by woof woof on Jun 14th, 2013 at 9:19pm

Title: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by woof woof on Jun 14th, 2013 at 9:19pm
Today he was asked what wa shis biggest mistake??

I wa sexpecting him to say dismantling the pacific solution??

but no,

He comes out with, Not pressing ahead with a carbon price??

So here we have the wanna be labor leader, stating that he basically supports in full the CT, how can he be so thick??

It is 1 of a few policies that is the death knell for labor??

So if he gets the leadership, all the libs need do is say, a vote for Rudd is a vote for keeping the CT.


On that note I say Rudd is toast, I reckon he'll lose his seat?

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by Armchair_Politician on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:13pm
That he didn't even mention the dismantling of the Pacific Solution in his list of mistakes that he made as PM shows just how far out of touch the imbecile is. Why anyone would want this self-obsessed incompetent back is beyond me.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by John Smith on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:15pm
But it was true ... the day he decided not to go to a DD on the ETS was the day it all started to unravel for him.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by woof woof on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:40pm
Rudds answe gives an insight into his all about me attitude,

rather than give an answer that was in relation to what was his biggest mistake for our country, he trots out what was the biggest mistake for his career??


No wonder more than half of labor hate him.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by Maqqa on Jun 14th, 2013 at 11:41pm
You are right woof

Another nail in the Rudd4PM coffin

If they ever allow him back into the chair before the election - I can see the LIBs dragging this interview out just like they did with the "There will be no carbon tax" interview

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by FriYAY on Jun 15th, 2013 at 12:10am

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:15pm:
But it was true ... the day he decided not to go to a DD on the ETS was the day it all started to unravel for him.


Yep, pussied out...

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:07am

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:15pm:
But it was true ... the day he decided not to go to a DD on the ETS was the day it all started to unravel for him.


John Smith

But it never really unravelled for him, it did for the ALP who decided to stupidly boot out a popular PM.

After that it has been a conga line of dumb mistakes.

This created the situation where Abbott will become PM.

You must be so proud of the party you are rusted on to.

I can throw you a can of WD-40 if your ideologically retarded brain wants to experience reality.


Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:12am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:13pm:
That he didn't even mention the dismantling of the Pacific Solution in his list of mistakes that he made as PM shows just how far out of touch the imbecile is. Why anyone would want this self-obsessed incompetent back is beyond me.


Armchair_Politician

And the hundreds of initiatives and promises that he lied about or never happened ?

He set an agenda that no government could met let a long an incompetent dysfunctional ALP led one.

Rudd was a far bigger liar than Gillard but a competent campaigner.


Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:23am

woof woof wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 9:19pm:
Today he was asked what wa shis biggest mistake??

I wa sexpecting him to say dismantling the pacific solution??

but no,
He comes out with, Not pressing ahead with a carbon price??
So here we have the wanna be labor leader, stating that he basically supports in full the CT, how can he be so thick??
It is 1 of a few policies that is the death knell for labor??
So if he gets the leadership, all the libs need do is say, a vote for Rudd is a vote for keeping the CT.
On that note I say Rudd is toast, I reckon he'll lose his seat?


woof woof

Rudd talks with a fork tongue, you know when he is lying, his lips are moving.

Politically border control has done enough damage on its own (just in Sydney's west) the CT was a toss of the coin issue at the time as opinion about the CT was drifting away. Gillard stupidly lied about it which has caused its eventual death, the CT will either be removed or suffer a death of a thousand cuts. The fact that she lied about it and inflicted it in an undemocratically way has destroyed the idea for at least a generation.

Based on the polling most seem to say he will hold on, if he does loose his seat it won't be by much, he is on a 8+% margin.

He is a good campaigner and he will get a big sympathy vote, while QLD looks like a disaster area for the ALP (Rudd might be the only one left) I would not write him off.

But no one saw the QLD state election disaster, everyone was suggesting the swing was going to be 6-8% which is huge ...... it was over 16%.




Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by Kat on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:41am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:13pm:
That he didn't even mention the dismantling of the Pacific Solution in his list of mistakes that he made as PM shows just how far out of touch the imbecile is. Why anyone would want this self-obsessed incompetent back is beyond me.



Because it wasn't a mistake, despite what the carnts on the right think. IF they ever think.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:51am

Kat wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:41am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:13pm:
That he didn't even mention the dismantling of the Pacific Solution in his list of mistakes that he made as PM shows just how far out of touch the imbecile is. Why anyone would want this self-obsessed incompetent back is beyond me.



Because it wasn't a mistake, despite what the carnts on the right think. IF they ever think.


Kat

So your OK with the ALP losing about 10 seats in Sydney alone and many more just on this issue alone ?

So why do you despise democracy ?




Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:02am

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:07am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:15pm:
But it was true ... the day he decided not to go to a DD on the ETS was the day it all started to unravel for him.


John Smith

But it never really unravelled for him, it did for the ALP who decided to stupidly boot out a popular PM.

After that it has been a conga line of dumb mistakes.

This created the situation where Abbott will become PM.

You must be so proud of the party you are rusted on to.

I can throw you a can of WD-40 if your ideologically retarded brain wants to experience reality.


so you don't think being demoted from PM to foreign minister to back bencher is unravelling? I'd hate to see what you consider to be unravelling then.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:05am

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:07am:
You must be so proud of the party you are rusted on to.


It still the only party to ever bring in any meaningful reform that benefits the country rather than simply looking out for their rich media and mining mates. Yep, I am proud.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by adelcrow on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:09am
Of course Rudd is stupid because if he was smart he would spend his days on forums whining about his life instead of working hard and being worth many millions of dollars kevin 07 is ssooooo stupid  ;D

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by skippy. on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:12am
The conga line conveniently forget Rudd won an election with a mandate to price carbon. It is the dogs of the Liberal party like phoney tony the women basher that sold out by refusing to support it. What sucks is this country is being dictated to by morons that think they know more than Expert scientists. We should throw the deniers in chaf bags and dump them out to sea for the sake of our kids.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:34am

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:02am:

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:07am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:15pm:
But it was true ... the day he decided not to go to a DD on the ETS was the day it all started to unravel for him.


John Smith

But it never really unravelled for him, it did for the ALP who decided to stupidly boot out a popular PM.

After that it has been a conga line of dumb mistakes.

This created the situation where Abbott will become PM.

You must be so proud of the party you are rusted on to.

I can throw you a can of WD-40 if your ideologically retarded brain wants to experience reality.


so you don't think being demoted from PM to foreign minister to back bencher is unravelling? I'd hate to see what you consider to be unravelling then.


John Smith

So you think the ALP being wiped out losing 20-40+ seats is normal ?


Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2013 at 11:11am

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:34am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:02am:

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:07am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:15pm:
But it was true ... the day he decided not to go to a DD on the ETS was the day it all started to unravel for him.


John Smith

But it never really unravelled for him, it did for the ALP who decided to stupidly boot out a popular PM.

After that it has been a conga line of dumb mistakes.

This created the situation where Abbott will become PM.

You must be so proud of the party you are rusted on to.

I can throw you a can of WD-40 if your ideologically retarded brain wants to experience reality.


so you don't think being demoted from PM to foreign minister to back bencher is unravelling? I'd hate to see what you consider to be unravelling then.


John Smith

So you think the ALP being wiped out losing 20-40+ seats is normal ?


What has that to do with anything? Rudd was asked what was his biggest mistake, not what was the final outcome of everything that has gone wrong.

besides, show me where I said it is normal?

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by Dnarever on Jun 15th, 2013 at 11:34am
Had Rudd pushed for an early election on a ETS he would probably still be in power and the Liberals would likely still be on the nose looking at another election defeat next year, Abbott would be driving a Taxi or a Mr Whippy truck.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by miketrees on Jun 15th, 2013 at 12:32pm
I see the problem here Woofee.

You see what Rudd said in terms of reality.

Rudd would see it in terms of how he can gain votes from not too bright people.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 15th, 2013 at 12:39pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 11:11am:

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:34am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:02am:

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:07am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:15pm:
But it was true ... the day he decided not to go to a DD on the ETS was the day it all started to unravel for him.


John Smith

But it never really unravelled for him, it did for the ALP who decided to stupidly boot out a popular PM.

After that it has been a conga line of dumb mistakes.

This created the situation where Abbott will become PM.

You must be so proud of the party you are rusted on to.

I can throw you a can of WD-40 if your ideologically retarded brain wants to experience reality.


so you don't think being demoted from PM to foreign minister to back bencher is unravelling? I'd hate to see what you consider to be unravelling then.


John Smith

So you think the ALP being wiped out losing 20-40+ seats is normal ?


What has that to do with anything? Rudd was asked what was his biggest mistake, not what was the final outcome of everything that has gone wrong.

besides, show me where I said it is normal?


John Smith

That Rudd will have the last laugh after the ALP get wiped out under Gillard ?

If that is not important to a rusted on like you then I can't help you, maybe you need lithium.


Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by Maqqa on Jun 15th, 2013 at 12:43pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 11:34am:
Had Rudd pushed for an early election on a ETS he would probably still be in power and the Liberals would likely still be on the nose looking at another election defeat next year, Abbott would be driving a Taxi or a Mr Whippy truck.



Had Howard not introduce Workchoices then Gillard would be Thomo's lawyer

Had....had....had

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 15th, 2013 at 1:02pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 11:34am:
Had Rudd pushed for an early election on a ETS he would probably still be in power and the Liberals would likely still be on the nose looking at another election defeat next year, Abbott would be driving a Taxi or a Mr Whippy truck.


Dnarever

Do you seriously think a DD election on an ETS which support was drifting away from would have been a politically smart move ?

Geez your getting desperate.

Rudd ran away from the ETS as fast as he could, he knew it was a bad idea politically.


Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by Dnarever on Jun 15th, 2013 at 1:06pm

miketrees wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 12:32pm:
I see the problem here Woofee.

You see what Rudd said in terms of reality.

Rudd would see it in terms of how he can gain votes from not too bright people.



Why would he be looking for conservative votes?

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by miketrees on Jun 15th, 2013 at 1:24pm
Well yes lots of leftards are indeed conservative

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by woof woof on Jun 15th, 2013 at 5:24pm
Interesting someone said they didn't see the qld result coming??


I could have told you Qld labor was ging to get smashed.

Fed labor is going to get smashed even harder.

Just wait and see.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by Dnarever on Jun 15th, 2013 at 5:56pm

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 1:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 11:34am:
Had Rudd pushed for an early election on a ETS he would probably still be in power and the Liberals would likely still be on the nose looking at another election defeat next year, Abbott would be driving a Taxi or a Mr Whippy truck.


Dnarever

Do you seriously think a DD election on an ETS which support was drifting away from would have been a politically smart move ?

Geez your getting desperate.

Rudd ran away from the ETS as fast as he could, he knew it was a bad idea politically.


Do you seriously think a DD election on an ETS

Not sure that a DD was required as soon as Gillard was in place she called an election but even a DD while the ETS was still by far the majority wish would have not been an issue.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by John Smith on Jun 15th, 2013 at 6:07pm

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 12:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 11:11am:

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:34am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 10:02am:

RightSadFred wrote on Jun 15th, 2013 at 8:07am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 14th, 2013 at 10:15pm:
But it was true ... the day he decided not to go to a DD on the ETS was the day it all started to unravel for him.


John Smith

But it never really unravelled for him, it did for the ALP who decided to stupidly boot out a popular PM.

After that it has been a conga line of dumb mistakes.

This created the situation where Abbott will become PM.

You must be so proud of the party you are rusted on to.

I can throw you a can of WD-40 if your ideologically retarded brain wants to experience reality.


so you don't think being demoted from PM to foreign minister to back bencher is unravelling? I'd hate to see what you consider to be unravelling then.


John Smith

So you think the ALP being wiped out losing 20-40+ seats is normal ?


What has that to do with anything? Rudd was asked what was his biggest mistake, not what was the final outcome of everything that has gone wrong.

besides, show me where I said it is normal?


John Smith

That Rudd will have the last laugh after the ALP get wiped out under Gillard ?

If that is not important to a rusted on like you then I can't help you, maybe you need lithium.


you seem to be in la la land or someplace like that ..... Rudd was asked what was [b]HIS [/b ]biggest mistake ... he gave his answer. What has the next election got to do with his mistake?

what do you think is rudds biggest mistake? the next election results?  ;D ;D

they aren't a mistake, they are the result of the last 3 years.

Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by RightSadFred on Jun 15th, 2013 at 9:54pm
John Smith

But Rudd is a two faced liar and your and idiot if you believe him.

Your the fool if you want the party you are rusted on to to cop it under Gillard.

I am all for the comedy, repercussions and the obvious rewriting of history that Gillard will do.

Seems the only role left for Gillard is the patsy in a comedy routine.


Title: Re: Is Rudd really that stupid??
Post by iceyone on Jun 15th, 2013 at 11:22pm
Abbott isn't a liar either?

Is that a core or non core promise?

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