On Q&A last night Sophie Mirabella referred to Abbott as "Tony Rudd".

What would Freud make of that?

Will she be forced to resign?

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 2:11am:

On Q&A last night Sophie Mirabella referred to Abbott as "Tony Rudd". What would Freud make of that? Will she be forced to resign?

She's probably just thankful that she wasn't in the cot with one of them when she slipped up.

i reckon sophie would wear a fairly large slip  , maybe an 18 or a 20

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 6:56am:

i reckon sophie would wear a fairly large slip  , maybe an 18 or a 20

I'm shocked!

What sort of women do you hang out with aquascoot? I'm sure women under the age of 85 don't wear slips, they went out of fashion after the war, the second one of course, before that they were very popular and a chaste maiden would not venture out without her petticoat.

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 2:11am:

On Q&A last night Sophie Mirabella referred to Abbott as "Tony Rudd". What would Freud make of that? Will she be forced to resign?

What a horrible piece of work she is.

I don't want her sacked though: she's another good reason for swinging voters to vote Labor.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 7:31am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 2:11am: On Q&A last night Sophie Mirabella referred to Abbott as "Tony Rudd". What would Freud make of that? Will she be forced to resign? What a horrible piece of work she is. I don't want her sacked though: she's another good reason for swinging voters to vote Labor.

Hear! Hear!

She was hopeless last night, shot down in flames, a fumbling cow.

The libs really need to get their act together.

I was very surprised how well  Tanya Plibersek carried herself, she seems genuine.

I wish I could trust the Labor Party handling our finances, its still the hurdle.

people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain.

why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know).

just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves.
its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;)

De-registered User wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:25am:

She was hopeless last night, shot down in flames. The libs really need to get their act together.

One person makes a slip-up and the entire party is falling to pieces? Too funny, hilarious!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

De-registered User wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:25am:

She was hopeless last night, shot down in flames, a fumbling cow.

That's Sophie.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:28am:

people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;)

Its not a "leftard show". They make sure the audience is well balanced. I suppose for you "well balanced" is leftard though.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:29am:

De-registered User wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:25am: She was hopeless last night, shot down in flames. The libs really need to get their act together. One person makes a slip-up and the entire party is falling to pieces? Too funny, hilarious!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What I said wasn't only directed at her slip up, I agree anyone can slip up but she was all round hopeless last night. I'm a LIB supporter and calling it how I see it without being biased.

I want better polies all round on all sides, I want my vote to be for the better party to lead our country. I'm sick and tired voting for the party that is not as bad as the other.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:36am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Its not a "leftard show". They make sure the audience is well balanced. I suppose for you "well balanced" is leftard though. SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Our polies should be able to handle any type of audience.

I remember Howard addressing a sea of rednecks when he introduced gun laws, the little pecker did very well.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:33am:

De-registered User wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:25am: She was hopeless last night, shot down in flames, a fumbling cow. That's Sophie.

You Comrades  are showing your hypocrisy slips again.... :-?

Isn't misogyny supposed to be a bad, bad thing? :-/

But now that Juliar has been assassinated by her own faceless men, it's now open season to slag the bags.... ;D

Swagman wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:33am: De-registered User wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:25am: She was hopeless last night, shot down in flames, a fumbling cow. That's Sophie. You Comrades  are showing your hypocrisy slips again.... :-? Isn't misogyny supposed to be a bad, bad thing? :-/ But now that Juliar has been assassinated by her own faceless men, it's now open season to slag the bags.... ;D

She's being ridiculed because she's Sophie: not because she's a woman.

::)

Swagman wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:33am: De-registered User wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:25am: She was hopeless last night, shot down in flames, a fumbling cow. That's Sophie. You Comrades  are showing your hypocrisy slips again.... :-? Isn't misogyny supposed to be a bad, bad thing? :-/ But now that Juliar has been assassinated by her own faceless men, it's now open season to slag the bags.... ;D

If its directed at a women its now called misogyny, if its direct at a man its just politics.

Its all one big "SKINLESS SAUSAGE" to me  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

De-registered User wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:43am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:36am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Its not a "leftard show". They make sure the audience is well balanced. I suppose for you "well balanced" is leftard though. SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg Our polies should be able to handle any type of audience. I remember Howard addressing a sea of rednecks when he introduced gun laws, the little pecker did very well.

Yes, and the Leftards condemned him when he wore a bullet proof vest. Can't win with Leftards...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:12am:

De-registered User wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:43am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:36am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Its not a "leftard show". They make sure the audience is well balanced. I suppose for you "well balanced" is leftard though. SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg Our polies should be able to handle any type of audience. I remember Howard addressing a sea of rednecks when he introduced gun laws, the little pecker did very well. Yes, and the Leftards condemned him when he wore a bullet proof vest. Can't win with Leftards...

Have you got that proof of 17 million p/boat for me yet?

As for Sophie, I heard her on the radio this morning on what I expect was a sound bite from last night in regards to the prospect of Rudd recalling Parliament for an ETS.
"Voters are confused, & need an election"

Sophie I'm not confused & I'm not stupid I know there will be an election before the 30/11/2013.
Seems they all are sweating about not just having to bash Gillard to win now.
Liberal Party talking points
*We need an election ASAP to provide certainty

Swagman wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:33am: De-registered User wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:25am: She was hopeless last night, shot down in flames, a fumbling cow. That's Sophie. You Comrades  are showing your hypocrisy slips again.... :-? Isn't misogyny supposed to be a bad, bad thing? :-/ But now that Juliar has been assassinated by her own faceless men, it's now open season to slag the bags.... ;D

I agree, Swagman.

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 2:11am:

On Q&A last night Sophie Mirabella referred to Abbott as "Tony Rudd". What would Freud make of that? Will she be forced to resign?

oh peter ... fancy a thread on a slip of the tongue thought you were better than that...

looks like you are waiting with baited breath for every slip up..

did anyone mention Kevs integrity????

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:52am:

Swagman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:33am: De-registered User wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:25am: She was hopeless last night, shot down in flames, a fumbling cow. That's Sophie. You Comrades  are showing your hypocrisy slips again.... :-? Isn't misogyny supposed to be a bad, bad thing? :-/ But now that Juliar has been assassinated by her own faceless men, it's now open season to slag the bags.... ;D She's being ridiculed because she's Sophie: not because she's a woman. ::)

you  honestly think gillard was ridiculed because she was a women ..LOL>>>...how about LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE..

Is Sophie still trying to rip that old fella off for all his dough?

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:40am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 2:11am: On Q&A last night Sophie Mirabella referred to Abbott as "Tony Rudd". What would Freud make of that? Will she be forced to resign? oh peter ... fancy a thread on a slip of the tongue thought you were better than that... looks like you are waiting with baited breath for every slip up.. did anyone mention Kevs integrity????

Anyone forget this???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6NpUvKCgD4

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:40am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 2:11am: On Q&A last night Sophie Mirabella referred to Abbott as "Tony Rudd". What would Freud make of that? Will she be forced to resign? oh peter ... fancy a thread on a slip of the tongue thought you were better than that... looks like you are waiting with baited breath for every slip up.. did anyone mention Kevs integrity????

It was funny and Freudian. Definitely worth a mention. If a Labor minister had called Rudd Kevin Abbott your mates would have been all over it. Right?

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:28am:

people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;)

47% of last night audience were liberal voters ..... you are starting to sound like Sophie

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:45am:

cods wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:40am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 2:11am: On Q&A last night Sophie Mirabella referred to Abbott as "Tony Rudd". What would Freud make of that? Will she be forced to resign? oh peter ... fancy a thread on a slip of the tongue thought you were better than that... looks like you are waiting with baited breath for every slip up.. did anyone mention Kevs integrity???? Anyone forget this??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6NpUvKCgD4

like many other aussies we actually like this vid in a weird way, its funny and shows that his human. It needs to be put to bed pretty quick.

He swears and blames dickheads in the embassy, he sounds like middle management blaming floor workers for poor productivity, is Rudd a Liberal underneath?

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:28am:

people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;)

Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference.

It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears.

cods wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:52am: Swagman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:45am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:33am: De-registered User wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:25am: She was hopeless last night, shot down in flames, a fumbling cow. That's Sophie. You Comrades  are showing your hypocrisy slips again.... :-? Isn't misogyny supposed to be a bad, bad thing? :-/ But now that Juliar has been assassinated by her own faceless men, it's now open season to slag the bags.... ;D She's being ridiculed because she's Sophie: not because she's a woman. ::) you  honestly think gillard was ridiculed because she was a women ..LOL>>>...how about LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE..

No, when did I say that?   :-/

You need a little lie down I think dear.

You're hallucinating.

::)

I was out last night & missed Q&A.

I hope they repeat it.
Does anyone know when?

Thursday night Q&A will be good - straight from Jakarta
when Rudd will be in town.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:07am:

I was out last night & missed Q&A. I hope they repeat it. Does anyone know when?

Watch it now:

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3780235.htm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:07am:

I was out last night & missed Q&A. I hope they repeat it. Does anyone know when? Thursday night Q&A will be good - straight from Jakarta when Rudd will be in town.

Don't they normally repeat it late on Friday or Saturday night? I'm not sure which day, but I do know I've seen the repeats often whilst channel surfing .... if you want to see Sophie make an ass of herself it's a good episode to watch

Kat wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:31am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 2:11am: On Q&A last night Sophie Mirabella referred to Abbott as "Tony Rudd". What would Freud make of that? Will she be forced to resign? What a horrible piece of work she is. I don't want her sacked though: she's another good reason for swinging voters to vote Labor. Hear! Hear!

What is horrible about her?

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:55am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears.

Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:07am: I was out last night & missed Q&A. I hope they repeat it. Does anyone know when? Watch it now: http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3780235.htm

Thanks Greg  - highest marks!
I'll watch it today.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:13am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:08am: [quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1372695082/28#28 date=1372723637]I was out last night & missed Q&A. I hope they repeat it. Does anyone know when? Watch it now: Thanks Greg  - highest marks! I'll watch it today.

Don't forget to see Sampson the totalitarian wanting to ban all discussion on asylum seekers for the election. At least Jones pulled him into line and said you can't ban free speech. 

Bobby. wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:07am:

I was out last night & missed Q&A. I hope they repeat it. Does anyone know when? Thursday night Q&A will be good - straight from Jakarta when Rudd will be in town.

I recorded it and so shall watch it soon. its on again around lunchtime anyway isnt it?

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:53am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) 47% of last night audience were liberal voters ..... you are starting to sound like Sophie

that show is the essence of the ruling intellectual elite.
gawd, that poof tony jones even looks like kevvy.
the panel are universally dispicable and the righties that go on there are mad, as they are just served up for redicule by tony and his leftie feminazi panelists.

stay away ;) ;)

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 11:36am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:53am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) 47% of last night audience were liberal voters ..... you are starting to sound like Sophie that show is the essence of the ruling intellectual elite. gawd, that poof tony jones even looks like kevvy. the panel are universally dispicable and the righties that go on there are mad, as they are just served up for redicule by tony and his leftie feminazi panelists. stay away ;) ;)

me thinks you is a bit bonkers .....

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:45am:

cods wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:40am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 2:11am: On Q&A last night Sophie Mirabella referred to Abbott as "Tony Rudd". What would Freud make of that? Will she be forced to resign? oh peter ... fancy a thread on a slip of the tongue thought you were better than that... looks like you are waiting with baited breath for every slip up.. did anyone mention Kevs integrity???? Anyone forget this??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6NpUvKCgD4

Sh1t happens.

John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 11:41am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 11:36am: John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:53am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) 47% of last night audience were liberal voters ..... you are starting to sound like Sophie that show is the essence of the ruling intellectual elite. gawd, that poof tony jones even looks like kevvy. the panel are universally dispicable and the righties that go on there are mad, as they are just served up for redicule by tony and his leftie feminazi panelists. stay away ;) ;) me thinks you is a bit bonkers .....

this may well be the case.

but so is sofie for going on that show. it is the equivalent of a digger walking into a taliban ambush.

stay in your fox hole sofie

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:27am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:07am: I was out last night & missed Q&A. I hope they repeat it. Does anyone know when? Thursday night Q&A will be good - straight from Jakarta when Rudd will be in town. I recorded it and so shall watch it soon. its on again around lunchtime anyway isnt it? SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Yes it's on now


Quote:

Q&A Todd Sampson, Sophie Mirabella, Tanya Plibersek, Sue Cato & Neil Lawrence  (Repeat)  1pm - 2pm ABC1 Tonight Tony Jones is joined by advertising CEO Todd Sampson, Shadow Minister for Innovation and Industry Sophie Mirabella, commentator and spin doctor Sue Cato, and Kevin 07 campaign creator Neil Lawrence.

John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:53am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) 47% of last night audience were liberal voters ..... you are starting to sound like Sophie

Closer to 40% by the end of the night.

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 1:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:53am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) 47% of last night audience were liberal voters ..... you are starting to sound like Sophie Closer to 40% by the end of the night.

;D

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 1:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:53am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) 47% of last night audience were liberal voters ..... you are starting to sound like Sophie Closer to 40% by the end of the night.

;D ;D

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:12am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green?

Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel.

And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs.

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 1:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:53am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) 47% of last night audience were liberal voters ..... you are starting to sound like Sophie Closer to 40% by the end of the night.

;) ;) ;) brilliant

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 4:51pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs.

that hand wringing little skinny bloke from the gruen transfer. you reckon he's a liberal  :D :D :D :D :D :D.
his erection had the desk levitating in front of him every time jones mentioned "rudd"   he's a died in the wool , card carrying communist

aquascoot wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 5:01pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. that hand wringing little skinny bloke from the gruen transfer. you reckon he's a liberal  :D :D :D :D :D :D. his erection had the desk levitating in front of him every time jones mentioned "rudd"   he's a died in the wool , card carrying communist

actually, he said he's unlikely to vote for either lib or labor and he'll most likely to vote for Palmers new party

MOTR wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 1:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:53am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) 47% of last night audience were liberal voters ..... you are starting to sound like Sophie Closer to 40% by the end of the night.

Good One!!!!

;) ;) ;) ;)

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 4:51pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs.

Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading.

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 7:49pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading.

Palmer says pretty much the same thing ... does that make him a lefty to?

John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:02pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:49pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading. Palmer says pretty much the same thing ... does that make him a lefty to?

Socially, he is a leftist. Economically, not at all.

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:02pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:49pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading. Palmer says pretty much the same thing ... does that make him a lefty to? Socially, he is a leftist. Economically, not at all.

I just love how you try to justify his position ..... he is and always has been a liberal .... he's probably donated more money to the liberal party than you've earned. That makes him a righty in my book. The fact that he is a righty with a conscience makes him a rare commodity.

John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:06pm:

I just love how you try to justify his position ..... he is and always has been a liberal .... he's probably donated more money to the liberal party than you've earned. That makes him a righty in my book. The fact that he is a righty with a conscience makes him a rare commodity.

He left the Liberal party. I am sure you're aware of this?

Anyway, when was the last time QandA had 4 Liberal panellists and 1 Labor/Green?

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:06pm: I just love how you try to justify his position ..... he is and always has been a liberal .... he's probably donated more money to the liberal party than you've earned. That makes him a righty in my book. The fact that he is a righty with a conscience makes him a rare commodity. He left the Liberal party. I am sure you're aware of this? Anyway, when was the last time QandA had 4 Liberal panellists and 1 Labor/Green?

When was the first time?

8-)

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 8:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:06pm: I just love how you try to justify his position ..... he is and always has been a liberal .... he's probably donated more money to the liberal party than you've earned. That makes him a righty in my book. The fact that he is a righty with a conscience makes him a rare commodity. He left the Liberal party. I am sure you're aware of this? Anyway, when was the last time QandA had 4 Liberal panellists and 1 Labor/Green?

a life long righty does not suddenly become a lefty just because he left the liberal party .....

anyway, when was the last time Q&A had 4 labor panellists and one lib?

John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:27pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:10pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:06pm: I just love how you try to justify his position ..... he is and always has been a liberal .... he's probably donated more money to the liberal party than you've earned. That makes him a righty in my book. The fact that he is a righty with a conscience makes him a rare commodity. He left the Liberal party. I am sure you're aware of this? Anyway, when was the last time QandA had 4 Liberal panellists and 1 Labor/Green? a life long righty does not suddenly become a lefty just because he left the liberal party ..... anyway, when was the last time Q&A had 4 labor panellists and one lib?

Last night.

There has never been 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green. God bless our ABC.

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:27pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:10pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:06pm: I just love how you try to justify his position ..... he is and always has been a liberal .... he's probably donated more money to the liberal party than you've earned. That makes him a righty in my book. The fact that he is a righty with a conscience makes him a rare commodity. He left the Liberal party. I am sure you're aware of this? Anyway, when was the last time QandA had 4 Liberal panellists and 1 Labor/Green? a life long righty does not suddenly become a lefty just because he left the liberal party ..... anyway, when was the last time Q&A had 4 labor panellists and one lib? Last night. There has never been 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green. God bless our ABC.

but we've already established that Sampson is not a labor guy, and Kato most likely is not. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, repeating your first mistake does not give it any further credibility.

John Smith wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:35pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:31pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:27pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:10pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:06pm: I just love how you try to justify his position ..... he is and always has been a liberal .... he's probably donated more money to the liberal party than you've earned. That makes him a righty in my book. The fact that he is a righty with a conscience makes him a rare commodity. He left the Liberal party. I am sure you're aware of this? Anyway, when was the last time QandA had 4 Liberal panellists and 1 Labor/Green? a life long righty does not suddenly become a lefty just because he left the liberal party ..... anyway, when was the last time Q&A had 4 labor panellists and one lib? Last night. There has never been 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green. God bless our ABC. but we've already established that Sampson is not a labor guy, and Kato most likely is not. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, repeating your first mistake does not give it any further credibility.

They seem to all have their tongue up Rudd's arse all night, and hiss and spit at Sophie. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, repeating your first mistake does not give it any further credibility

no one watches that show bar rusted on

gays
aetheists
feminists
human rights hand wringers
and enviro nazis.

mirabella shouldnt be on a show like that.

she should go on alan cola or tiki fullertons show "business lateline' where she can be quized about liberal policies to help get small business moving.

a libbo going on that show is the equivalent of bill shorten appearing on a business show.

youre the  ENEMY of the panel. they know it and they are just going to try to mock you.  actually i'd like to see shorten or conroy on a business show , that would be just a good laugh.

stay home sophie darling,  let them rant on to their audience of a few thousand . i bet most of australia were were watching packed to the rafters or the tennis.

when they ring up a libbo to go on Q and A, he should say,  not until you get youre ratings up. this is a campaign now and we cant be affording to go on these non rating shows. ;) ;)

Mr/s Ubermensch, help me out here.  Who on the Q&A Panel last night were Members of the ALP?

Bump one.

I never stated anyone were members of the ALP.

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:13pm:

I never stated anyone were members of the ALP.

So, what was your problem with last night's Panel?

Do I have to repeat myself again?

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 10:17pm:

Do I have to repeat myself again?

Humour an Old Fart.

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 7:49pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading.

She kept lying

the reason asylum seekers shouldn't be an election thing is because its a minor issue compared to other more important issues that should be brought up @ an election.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 9:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:27pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:10pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:06pm: I just love how you try to justify his position ..... he is and always has been a liberal .... he's probably donated more money to the liberal party than you've earned. That makes him a righty in my book. The fact that he is a righty with a conscience makes him a rare commodity. He left the Liberal party. I am sure you're aware of this? Anyway, when was the last time QandA had 4 Liberal panellists and 1 Labor/Green? a life long righty does not suddenly become a lefty just because he left the liberal party ..... anyway, when was the last time Q&A had 4 labor panellists and one lib? Last night. There has never been 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green. God bless our ABC.

When has there been 4 labours and 1 liberal/green?

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 6:39am:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:49pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading. She kept lying the reason asylum seekers shouldn't be an election thing is because its a minor issue compared to other more important issues that should be brought up @ an election. SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

interesting bob carr is now calling them by their correct name

country shoppers.  me thinks western sydney disagree with you, putty cat

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2013 at 7:31am:

What a horrible piece of work she is.

SOPHIE Mirabella can lay claim to a new, but likely unwelcome gift, bestowed yesterday by outgoing federal independent MP Tony Windsor.

Mr Windsor gave the member for Indi “the nasty prize” via an appearance yesterday morning on the ABC TV program Insiders with fellow independent Rob Oakeshott.

His remarks quickly stirred up a frenzy on social media.

Mr Windsor — who announced his resignation from politics just hours before the leadership battle between Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd reached its climax on Wednesday evening — declared Mrs Mirabella would be the person he would least miss in the Parliament.

He then threw his support behind Indi’s independent candidate, Cathy McGowan.

“She (Mrs Mirabella) wins the nasty prize. The people of Indi, just have a look at your representative and see how much better you could do,” he said.

Mr Windsor even offered his help to Ms McGowan’s election campaign, “now that I’ve got some time on my hands”.

Ms McGowan said she was thrilled “someone of national prominence has seen what’s happening in Indi”, but hoped any tit-for-tat remarks wouldn’t distract from the focus of the campaign.

“I’m part of a community movement (Voices for Indi) that has seen what’s been going in politics the past few years, and really wants it to be different,” she said.

“What we’re trying to do is build up respect for representatives and make our issues heard in Canberra.”

Other candidates for the seat of Indi were quick to voice their approval of Mr Windsor’s remarks, despite him clearly throwing his support behind Ms McGowan and not themselves.

Labor candidate Robyn Walsh said Mr Windsor’s judgement was based on “his observations of her performance” after working alongside Mrs Mirabella for many years.


“The whole idea of representative democracy is that you look at the people standing to represent your electorate, and judge which of them is the best for the job,” she said.

“Unfortunately, there are few people in Indi who have tried to work with Ms Mirabella in the past who would disagree with his opinion of her.”

Greens candidate Jenny O’Connor said: “Sophie Mirabella is such a deeply unpopular political figure, it is time for the people of Indi to use their vote to change their representation.

“Even though there are differences in our approach, we (Greens and independents) are all strongly united in wanting to change our representation from Sophie Mirabella to someone who is truly representative of the people of Indi,” she said


http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/1607598/windsor-gives-mirabella-the-nasty-prize/

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 6:39am:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:49pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading. She kept lying the reason asylum seekers shouldn't be an election thing is because its a minor issue compared to other more important issues that should be brought up @ an election. SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Minor? It puts the lives of our Naval and Customs personnel at risk when we have to rescue these people. It puts the entire country at risk when some of these people have been found to carry TB and other diseases previously eradicated in this country. It costs nearly $13m per boat to process everyone on it. The people that do make it alive then take up places on our refugee intake quota, meaning genuine refugees miss out on a better life here and country-shoppers take their place. So far, more than 13,000 have arrived this year already, with more than 40,000 on over 700 boats since Rudd scrapped the Pacific Solution. The annual cost to taxpayers has blown out from less than $100m per year to more than $1.5bn per year.

Yeah, just a minor issue... ::) ::) ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 7:07am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:39am: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:49pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading. She kept lying the reason asylum seekers shouldn't be an election thing is because its a minor issue compared to other more important issues that should be brought up @ an election. SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg interesting bob carr is now calling them by their correct name country shoppers.  me thinks western sydney disagree with you, putty cat

The only reason the pollies say its an "important issue" is because it is a dog whistle. Its not an important issue compared to other issues facing aussies. Dunno what bob carr has to do with it though.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 7:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:39am: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:49pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading. She kept lying the reason asylum seekers shouldn't be an election thing is because its a minor issue compared to other more important issues that should be brought up @ an election. SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg Minor? It puts the lives of our Naval and Customs personnel at risk when we have to rescue these people. It puts the entire country at risk when some of these people have been found to carry TB and other diseases previously eradicated in this country. It costs nearly $13m per boat to process everyone on it. The people that do make it alive then take up places on our refugee intake quota, meaning genuine refugees miss out on a better life here and country-shoppers take their place. So far, more than 13,000 have arrived this year already, with more than 40,000 on over 700 boats since Rudd scrapped the Pacific Solution. The annual cost to taxpayers has blown out from less than $100m per year to more than $1.5bn per year. Yeah, just a minor issue... ::) ::) ::)

Its a small (comparatively) number of ppl that are held in quarantine for a long time. There are other more important issues facing aussies like education and housing and NBN etc . . . .

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 6:39am:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:49pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading. She kept lying the reason asylum seekers shouldn't be an election thing is because its a minor issue compared to other more important issues that should be brought up @ an election. SOB

Border sovereignty isn't a minor issue, nor is spending billions of dollars on uninvited people.

Who kept lying?

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 7:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:31am: What a horrible piece of work she is. SOPHIE Mirabella can lay claim to a new, but likely unwelcome gift, bestowed yesterday by outgoing federal independent MP Tony Windsor. Mr Windsor gave the member for Indi “the nasty prize” via an appearance yesterday morning on the ABC TV program Insiders with fellow independent Rob Oakeshott. His remarks quickly stirred up a frenzy on social media. Mr Windsor — who announced his resignation from politics just hours before the leadership battle between Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd reached its climax on Wednesday evening — declared Mrs Mirabella would be the person he would least miss in the Parliament. He then threw his support behind Indi’s independent candidate, Cathy McGowan. “She (Mrs Mirabella) wins the nasty prize. The people of Indi, just have a look at your representative and see how much better you could do,” he said. Mr Windsor even offered his help to Ms McGowan’s election campaign, “now that I’ve got some time on my hands”. Ms McGowan said she was thrilled “someone of national prominence has seen what’s happening in Indi”, but hoped any tit-for-tat remarks wouldn’t distract from the focus of the campaign. “I’m part of a community movement (Voices for Indi) that has seen what’s been going in politics the past few years, and really wants it to be different,” she said. “What we’re trying to do is build up respect for representatives and make our issues heard in Canberra.” Other candidates for the seat of Indi were quick to voice their approval of Mr Windsor’s remarks, despite him clearly throwing his support behind Ms McGowan and not themselves. Labor candidate Robyn Walsh said Mr Windsor’s judgement was based on “his observations of her performance” after working alongside Mrs Mirabella for many years. “The whole idea of representative democracy is that you look at the people standing to represent your electorate, and judge which of them is the best for the job,” she said. “Unfortunately, there are few people in Indi who have tried to work with Ms Mirabella in the past who would disagree with his opinion of her.” Greens candidate Jenny O’Connor said: “Sophie Mirabella is such a deeply unpopular political figure, it is time for the people of Indi to use their vote to change their representation. “Even though there are differences in our approach, we (Greens and independents) are all strongly united in wanting to change our representation from Sophie Mirabella to someone who is truly representative of the people of Indi,” she said

Are you and the Border Mail sexists and misogynists?

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:12am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:39am: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:49pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading. She kept lying the reason asylum seekers shouldn't be an election thing is because its a minor issue compared to other more important issues that should be brought up @ an election. SOB Border sovereignty isn't a minor issue, nor is spending billions of dollars on uninvited people. Who kept lying?

Sophie was lying - thats why the others kept calling her out on it.

The issue isnt "border sovereignty" its asylum seekers which we agreed to accept into australia and their mode of travel. There are relatively few of them and they dont effect many ppl @ all. Some issues effect us all though and should be addressed - eg education and disability and NBN etc . . .

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

I don't think you're aware of how the average person feels about this issue. It's a major vote loser. It might not effect you at all, but people feel strongly when the integrity of our borders have been put in to question. The borders of a country are similar to the borders of your house; you don't allow anyone to waltz in, you invite them and/or they ask for permission first.

What the UN conventions or some lawyers say on this is irrelevant. People will always place their security above that of perceived outsiders.

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:14am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 7:40am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:31am: What a horrible piece of work she is. SOPHIE Mirabella can lay claim to a new, but likely unwelcome gift, bestowed yesterday by outgoing federal independent MP Tony Windsor. Mr Windsor gave the member for Indi “the nasty prize” via an appearance yesterday morning on the ABC TV program Insiders with fellow independent Rob Oakeshott. His remarks quickly stirred up a frenzy on social media. Mr Windsor — who announced his resignation from politics just hours before the leadership battle between Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd reached its climax on Wednesday evening — declared Mrs Mirabella would be the person he would least miss in the Parliament. He then threw his support behind Indi’s independent candidate, Cathy McGowan. “She (Mrs Mirabella) wins the nasty prize. The people of Indi, just have a look at your representative and see how much better you could do,” he said. Mr Windsor even offered his help to Ms McGowan’s election campaign, “now that I’ve got some time on my hands”. Ms McGowan said she was thrilled “someone of national prominence has seen what’s happening in Indi”, but hoped any tit-for-tat remarks wouldn’t distract from the focus of the campaign. “I’m part of a community movement (Voices for Indi) that has seen what’s been going in politics the past few years, and really wants it to be different,” she said. “What we’re trying to do is build up respect for representatives and make our issues heard in Canberra.” Other candidates for the seat of Indi were quick to voice their approval of Mr Windsor’s remarks, despite him clearly throwing his support behind Ms McGowan and not themselves. Labor candidate Robyn Walsh said Mr Windsor’s judgement was based on “his observations of her performance” after working alongside Mrs Mirabella for many years. “The whole idea of representative democracy is that you look at the people standing to represent your electorate, and judge which of them is the best for the job,” she said. “Unfortunately, there are few people in Indi who have tried to work with Ms Mirabella in the past who would disagree with his opinion of her.” Greens candidate Jenny O’Connor said: “Sophie Mirabella is such a deeply unpopular political figure, it is time for the people of Indi to use their vote to change their representation. “Even though there are differences in our approach, we (Greens and independents) are all strongly united in wanting to change our representation from Sophie Mirabella to someone who is truly representative of the people of Indi,” she said Are you and the Border Mail sexists and misogynists?

The Border Mail article was written by a WOMAN - based on the comments of two MEN - and backed by another WOMAN

ME - I just POSTED it


YOU work it out

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:24am:

I don't think you're aware of how the average person feels about this issue. It's a major vote loser. It might not effect you at all, but people feel strongly when the integrity of our borders have been put in to question. The borders of a country are similar to the borders of your house; you don't allow anyone to waltz in, you invite them and/or they ask for permission first. What the UN conventions or some lawyers say on this is irrelevant. People will always place their security above that of perceived outsiders.

Of course im aware of how the "average person" is told what to think by the media. That is why this relatively minor issue has been blown out of all proportion. Its a dog whistle.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:28am:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:24am: I don't think you're aware of how the average person feels about this issue. It's a major vote loser. It might not effect you at all, but people feel strongly when the integrity of our borders have been put in to question. The borders of a country are similar to the borders of your house; you don't allow anyone to waltz in, you invite them and/or they ask for permission first. What the UN conventions or some lawyers say on this is irrelevant. People will always place their security above that of perceived outsiders. Of course im aware of how the "average person" is told what to think by the media. That is why this relatively minor issue has been blown out of all proportion. Its a dog whistle. SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

i'm hoping we get some korean assylum seekers soon. they have some good cat recipes you know

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:28am:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:24am: I don't think you're aware of how the average person feels about this issue. It's a major vote loser. It might not effect you at all, but people feel strongly when the integrity of our borders have been put in to question. The borders of a country are similar to the borders of your house; you don't allow anyone to waltz in, you invite them and/or they ask for permission first. What the UN conventions or some lawyers say on this is irrelevant. People will always place their security above that of perceived outsiders. Of course im aware of how the "average person" is told what to think by the media. That is why this relatively minor issue has been blown out of all proportion. Its a dog whistle. SOB

Boat arrivals haven't been reported in the mainstream media for months.
Anyway, your refusal to take this issue seriously is one of the major reasons Labor is looking at defeat. Gillard refused to take any strong action on it and now look where she is.

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:28am:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:14am: buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 7:40am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:31am: What a horrible piece of work she is. SOPHIE Mirabella can lay claim to a new, but likely unwelcome gift, bestowed yesterday by outgoing federal independent MP Tony Windsor. Mr Windsor gave the member for Indi “the nasty prize” via an appearance yesterday morning on the ABC TV program Insiders with fellow independent Rob Oakeshott. His remarks quickly stirred up a frenzy on social media. Mr Windsor — who announced his resignation from politics just hours before the leadership battle between Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd reached its climax on Wednesday evening — declared Mrs Mirabella would be the person he would least miss in the Parliament. He then threw his support behind Indi’s independent candidate, Cathy McGowan. “She (Mrs Mirabella) wins the nasty prize. The people of Indi, just have a look at your representative and see how much better you could do,” he said. Mr Windsor even offered his help to Ms McGowan’s election campaign, “now that I’ve got some time on my hands”. Ms McGowan said she was thrilled “someone of national prominence has seen what’s happening in Indi”, but hoped any tit-for-tat remarks wouldn’t distract from the focus of the campaign. “I’m part of a community movement (Voices for Indi) that has seen what’s been going in politics the past few years, and really wants it to be different,” she said. “What we’re trying to do is build up respect for representatives and make our issues heard in Canberra.” Other candidates for the seat of Indi were quick to voice their approval of Mr Windsor’s remarks, despite him clearly throwing his support behind Ms McGowan and not themselves. Labor candidate Robyn Walsh said Mr Windsor’s judgement was based on “his observations of her performance” after working alongside Mrs Mirabella for many years. “The whole idea of representative democracy is that you look at the people standing to represent your electorate, and judge which of them is the best for the job,” she said. “Unfortunately, there are few people in Indi who have tried to work with Ms Mirabella in the past who would disagree with his opinion of her.” Greens candidate Jenny O’Connor said: “Sophie Mirabella is such a deeply unpopular political figure, it is time for the people of Indi to use their vote to change their representation. “Even though there are differences in our approach, we (Greens and independents) are all strongly united in wanting to change our representation from Sophie Mirabella to someone who is truly representative of the people of Indi,” she said Are you and the Border Mail sexists and misogynists? The Border Mail article was written by a WOMAN - based on the comments of two MEN - and backed by another WOMAN ME - I just POSTED it YOU work it out

Weave and dodge. Sexists and misogynists always do.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:16am:

The issue isnt "border sovereignty" its asylum seekers which we agreed to accept into australia and their mode of travel. There are relatively few of them and they dont effect many ppl @ all.

There is a great misconception among Australians ( ... particularly those from Sydney's western suburbs) that every person of middle eastern or Sri Lankan appearance they see in their neighbourhood and streets has arrived in the country via an unauthorised fishing boat

The TRUTH is, for every 100 of "these people" they point the figure at - around 1 or 2 of them are "boat people"
The other 98 or 99 have come to Australia on regular immigration and refugee programs

So even if Tony Abbott's "Stop the Boats" slogan had any effect ( ... which the experts agree WON'T), the result wouldn't even be noticed

There is also the perception that people ought to arrive via the channels set up by the government.

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:12am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:39am: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 7:49pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 4:51pm: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 10:12am: Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 9:55am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 2nd, 2013 at 8:28am: people like sophie shouldnt go on leftard shows like that. theyve got nothing to gain. why serve yourself up to the ruling feminist intellectual elite (tony jones does have a vagina you know). just tell em to f*ck off and let em have their little bukake party all to themselves. its not as if any of the wankers that like that sort of show are going to listen to a word sophie says ;) Righties love to call Q&A "leftard". They never produce a skerrick of evidence, but that makes no difference. It's just one of those things they believe, it makes them feel better, the poor old dears. Every panel member last night except for Sophie was either a Labor or Green supporter. Has the panel ever been stacked with 4 Liberals and 1 Labor/Green? Ever heard of the Cato Institute, an ultra right think tank? Sue Cato was on the panel. And I doubt an advertising CEO is a socialist, he certainly didn't sound like one. So rather then 4-1, it was 3-2 to the Libs. Don't be dishonest. Did you even listen to them speak? Sampson and Cato started to hiss and spit every time Sophie spoke. Sampson even went as far as to say that he wanted the subject of asylum seekers banned from the election because he didn't like the direction it was heading. She kept lying the reason asylum seekers shouldn't be an election thing is because its a minor issue compared to other more important issues that should be brought up @ an election. SOB Border sovereignty isn't a minor issue, nor is spending billions of dollars on uninvited people. Who kept lying?

yeah, like our sovereignty is under threat ...... seriously now, that's your argument?

The Cato Institute describes itself as dedicated to "individual liberty, free markets and limited government"

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:25am:

There is also the perception that people ought to arrive via the channels set up by the government.

You mean like the ABC? :D

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:12am:

Border sovereignty isn't a minor issue, nor is spending billions of dollars on uninvited people.

Border sovereignty isn't the issue.

Money isn't the issue.

People drowning is the issue.

Interesting to see where your priorities lie.

John Smith wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:30am:

yeah, like our sovereignty is under threat ...... seriously now, that's your argument?

What a "progressive" thinks about this and what the average Australian thinks are worlds apart. A "progressive" probably wouldn't care if 50 million rocked up. But the average Australian does. Whether or not you think they are immoral changes nothing.

Again, your grammar is very poor. You sound like a 13 year old attempting to act "cool" with his friends: It's like ... you know ... just so ... wrong, man! These people ... man ... should do want they want ... man ... and not worry about what people think; like, you know?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:53am:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:12am: Border sovereignty isn't a minor issue, nor is spending billions of dollars on uninvited people. Border sovereignty isn't the issue. Money isn't the issue. People drowning is the issue. Interesting to see where your priorities lie.

What is your solution to the issue?

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:54am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:30am: yeah, like our sovereignty is under threat ...... seriously now, that's your argument? What a "progressive" thinks about this and what the average Australian thinks are worlds apart. A "progressive" probably wouldn't care if 50 million rocked up. But the average Australian does. Whether or not you think they are immoral changes nothing. Again, your grammar is very poor. You sound like a 13 year old attempting to act "cool" with his friends: It's like ... you know ... just so ... wrong, man! These people ... man ... should do want they want ... man ... and not worry about what people think; like, you know?

;D ;D ;D
:D :D :D


do you know what pathetic sounds like

(I'll give you a clue, read your last post)

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:55am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:53am: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:12am: Border sovereignty isn't a minor issue, nor is spending billions of dollars on uninvited people. Border sovereignty isn't the issue. Money isn't the issue. People drowning is the issue. Interesting to see where your priorities lie. What is your solution to the issue?

I wish I had one.

Obviously we need to stop them getting on the boats in the first place.

Achieving that isn't as easy at it sounds.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:53am:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:12am: Border sovereignty isn't a minor issue, nor is spending billions of dollars on uninvited people. Border sovereignty isn't the issue. Money isn't the issue. People drowning is the issue. Interesting to see where your priorities lie.

RUBBISH,   

$5 billion spent on these country shoppers.
that could have saved literally 100,000 african kids who are innocent.

damm these selfish country shoppers .
they are economic up graders, carr said it greg, think he was lying.

i care far more for starving kids then drowning selfish fools.
send the money to africa. let the fools fend for themselves.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:53am: Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:12am: Border sovereignty isn't a minor issue, nor is spending billions of dollars on uninvited people. Border sovereignty isn't the issue. Money isn't the issue. People drowning is the issue. Interesting to see where your priorities lie. RUBBISH,

No.  People (including children) drowning is the issue.

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:58am:

$5 billion spent on these country shoppers. that could have saved literally 100,000 african kids who are innocent.

Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:01am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:58am: $5 billion spent on these country shoppers. that could have saved literally 100,000 african kids who are innocent. Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent.

Who takes their money and puts them on totally unseaworthy "boats", yes the people smugglers, and who encourages the people smugglers because of weak border protection as a result of piss poor pathetic labor government policies?

Yes, the labor government is responsible for the drownings of these people because of their incompetence and apathy. It has been more concerned with holding onto government and making excuses than protecting Australia's borders.

Peccahead, you really need to think before opening your big mouth.

Socrates wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:13am:

Peccahead, you really need to think before opening your big mouth.

I did think.

Result: my comment was 100% correct.

"Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent."

Tell that to the people smugglers who KRUDD & GILLARD have encouraged through their incompetence.

Socrates wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:24am:

Tell that to the people smugglers who KRUDD & GILLARD have encouraged through their incompetence.

I think the people smugglers already know that children on asylum seeker boats are innocent.

They take their payment from the adults, not the children.

However, if you think it will help:

Attention people smugglers! - "Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent."

There we go.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:27am:

Socrates wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:24am: Tell that to the people smugglers who KRUDD & GILLARD have encouraged through their incompetence. I think the people smugglers already know that children on asylum seeker boats are innocent. They take their payment from the adults, not the children. However, if you think it will help: Attention people smugglers! - "Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent." There we go.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-04/powerful-people-smugglers-caught-living-in-australia/4050506

IDIOT!

Socrates wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:27am: Socrates wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:24am: Tell that to the people smugglers who KRUDD & GILLARD have encouraged through their incompetence. I think the people smugglers already know that children on asylum seeker boats are innocent. They take their payment from the adults, not the children. However, if you think it will help: Attention people smugglers! - "Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent." There we go. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-04/powerful-people-smugglers-caught-living-in-australia/4050506

How does that link change the fact that children on asylum seeker boats are innocent?

Border sovereignty isn't the issue.

Money isn't the issue.

People drowning is the issue.

Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent.

The issue in reality is really our policy on boat people, we either stop them once and for all or make our boarders redundant.

For me, I'm with John Howard 'We decide who comes to our country"
I say "STOP THE BOATS!"

and if it provokes war, "SHOW ME WHERE TO GO TO GET TO THE FRONT LINE"

People smugglers set up business in Australia

The ABC has revealed that people smugglers connected with a deadly disaster at sea are now residing in Australia under refugee visas. A Four Corners investigation has uncovered evidence that at least six experienced people smugglers came to Australia by boat,  won refugee status and were released from detention to cities across Australia.  At least some of them went on to set up lucrative people-smuggling deals from inside Australia.  The man behind establishing people smugglers in Australia, Abu Ali al Kuwaiti, is also linked to an asylum boat that disappeared on its way to Australia.

In November 2010, 97 men, women and children boarded a fishing boat in North Jakarta, but disappeared on the ocean, never to be heard from again. The passengers were mostly from Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan.

No-one knows the name of the lost boat or reported it missing, and the people smugglers who sent the boat lied about the loss to collect final payments from the relatives. The operation was run by a network of agents working for Abu Ali al Kuwaiti, who is based in Indonesia, and another smuggler.

In this few years ... there is many, many smugglers or agents, they enter Australia, and now they live in Australia. At the beginning of 2010, Abu Ali al Kuwaiti and other top Iraqi smugglers met in Jakarta to discuss expanding their business in Australia. They planned to send a group of their best operators to Australia by boat.

Continued.......

Two inside sources have confirmed that among those at the meeting was powerful smuggler, Captain Emad, also known as Abu Khalid, who is now based in Canberra.

The sources say also present were Mohammad Basrawi and his brother Watheq, and Abdullah al Sharifi, also known as Abu Mishal, who is from Yemen and claims to be 36.

"Emad, he's the head of the smugglers, he's the head of the snake. He's very clever, and all the technique of the other smugglers, even we can call them famous smugglers in Indonesia or Malaysia, all of them under his technique," he said.

The plan was an audacious one - to send the agents and a smuggler all on one boat posing as genuine asylum seekers.

The smugglers pooled their expertise on how to avoid detection on the way and to deceive the Australian authorities once they arrive.

According to Border Protection Command, Captain Emad's boat was intercepted on January 13, 2010, five nautical miles north of Christmas Island.

The authorities did not uncover his deception and the boat was listed as having 43 passengers and no crew.

Once on Christmas Island, Captain Emad's plan to become an Australian resident continued without a hitch. Emad, he's the head of the smugglers, he's the head of the snake. He's very clever. He had brought his daughter-in-law and her young child with him on the boat, so they were moved to the family compound to await interviews with the Department of Immigration.

Four Corners understands the name Emad used to enter Australia was Ali al Abassi.

On April 20, 2010, only three months after the boat arrived, the Department of Immigration gave Emad a protection visa and Australian residence. He was one of the first passengers on the boat to be released from detention.

Four Corners can reveal Captain Emad then set up base in Canberra.

His wife, three adult children and their dependents all got refugee status as well - using different names from those they used in Malaysia and Indonesia.

Captain Emad's wife lives in Kaleen, while his daughters live in Lyneham and Dunlop. His son lives in Hawker.

The adults were all provided with public housing.

Continued.....


According to members of the family, they claimed their father had died in Iraq.

When Four Corners tracked Captain Emad down at the Gungahlin shopping centre in north Canberra, the successful perfume shop owner and top Iraqi people smuggler was giving every appearance of leading a modest life, supervising trolleys.

He refused to answer questions, saying not to disturb him.

Another of the men at the original meeting in Jakarta - Abdullah al Sharifi - got his protection visa and Australian residence after nine months. He celebrated his new status with other passengers from the boat at Sydney Harbour.

According to passengers on Emad's boat, in detention in Australia, Abdullah al Sharifi talked openly about his work as a smuggler with Captain Emad in Malaysia and Indonesia.
"He said, 'I was with Captain Emad in Malaysia. He brought me here for free and we work together at this smuggling business'," passenger Rahim said. It is not clear what Captain Emad told Australian immigration officials to convince them he was a genuine refugee in need of protection. What is known is that before he set up shop in Indonesia, he had spent a large portion of his life in downtown Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia.

His legitimate business in Malaysia was perfume. By 2005 he owned four perfume shops in Kuala Lumpur and he still owns at least one.

He had also previously worked as a ship's captain, moving freight around Asia.

Captain Emad is well known in Bokit Bintang and other shopkeepers were quite open about his whereabouts, telling Four Corners he and his whole family were now in Australia.

Everyone defended about the boats, asylum seekers, smugglers - some of them make them heroes. But no-one defended the women and the children who lost their life in the sea.

Having discovered the Iraqi smuggling boss had successfully relocated to Australia, Four Corners turned its attention to finding Captain Emad and his agents. Working with Four Corners, as he did in Indonesia in 2010,  Hussain Nasir was determined to expose the networks operating in his newly adopted country. "In this few years ... there is many, many smugglers or agents, they enter Australia, and now they live in Australia," he said.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:01am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:58am: $5 billion spent on these country shoppers. that could have saved literally 100,000 african kids who are innocent. Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent.

parents who put their children on  leaky boats. are guilty of child abuse and neglect.

they should have these children removed from them upon their arrival in oz. this seems sensible. they are unfit parents.

Socrates wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 11:00am:

In November 2010, 97 men, women and children boarded a fishing boat in North Jakarta, but disappeared on the ocean, never to be heard from again. The passengers were mostly from Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan.

Innocent children drowning.

My point exactly.

It has to stop.

Continued.....


In a café at Sydney's central station, with the help of another man, Hussain set up a meeting with agent Mahdi Afsoon Avwaz, who claims to be 20 and is originally from Iran. Hussain posed as a relative of family members wanting to come to Australia by boat. Four Corners filmed the meeting from a nearby balcony. "Mahdi Afsoon, he's a smuggler, but he was an agent for one of the biggest smugglers in Indonesia. Around two years he worked with him and his name Mohammad al Basrawi," Hussain said.  Mohammad Basrawi was Captain Emad's partner; they sent Afsoon to Australia by boat in 2010. Iranian Afsoon was accepted as a refugee later that year.  He told Hussain how many passengers he had brought to Australia since then. "Madhi Afsoon, he told me that he bring around 300 passengers to Australia including his family. And he told me that the last boat he organised before two week or three weeks ago arrived in Australia and a boat was carrying 57 passengers - Iraqi and Kurdish - and three crew," Hussain said.

He told Hussain the cost of the trip for his relatives would be $11,300 each. Afsoon rang the smuggler based in Australia about the best way to handle the money. The smuggler he rang was Captain Emad. "He called him and he let me hear his voice and he open a speaker and he discussed with him about the trip and the passenger and the money," Hussain said. "Captain Emad, he was very careful about the phone Mahdi Afsoon [was] using because he asked him in first question, what the kind of your mobile phone? It is iPhone? He told him no.

"[Madhi] he said, if you pay today or tomorrow, I'm ready at any time and we have already trip at 15 days, maybe two weeks or twenty days there will be move[ment]."

Captain Emad's caution and cunning have protected his operations since he arrived in Australia. The relatives of the 97 passengers who disappeared in 2010 are still waiting for the smugglers to tell them what really happened to the passengers.MThe people smugglers who sent the boat lied about the loss of lives to collect final payments from relatives.

You keep repeating yourself.........the people smugglers can stop the innocents from drowning, and the Labor government can stop the people smugglers!

It is their smacking job to stop them!

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:01am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:58am: $5 billion spent on these country shoppers. that could have saved literally 100,000 african kids who are innocent. Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent.

the kids can stay.  send the parents back.  the kids dont deserve such selfish parents who wish to endanger them for economic ends

Whats it all got to do with sophie?

SOB

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aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 11:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:01am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:58am: $5 billion spent on these country shoppers. that could have saved literally 100,000 african kids who are innocent. Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent. parents who put their children on  leaky boats. are guilty of child abuse and neglect. they should have these children removed from them upon their arrival in oz. this seems sensible. they are unfit parents.

Yes, it certainly does seem to be unfair treatment of the children (from our perspective).

However, we don't know what their circumstances were like back home.

I certainly don't like the idea of kids being herded onto these boats though.

Stopping people from drowning is my main issue.

Socrates wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 11:07am:

You keep repeating yourself.........the people smugglers can stop the innocents from drowning, and the Labor government can stop the people smugglers! It is their smacking job to stop them!

Correct.

I've never said anything to the contrary.

Greggie

get with the program son.

457 visa holders  =  good blokes  =  hard workers  =  we should welcome them  (labor hate them)

assylum seekers  =  selfish country shoppers  =  centrelink inhabitants  =  we should not welcome them

the australian public will vote on this issue soon, and i think youre kidding yourself if you think more than the rusted on assylum industry dont see it my way.

thankfully, we live in a democracy and crazies like yourself dont get to dictate policy.

when even the do gooders like carr and rudd are calling them country shoppers, you need to wisen up son. ;) ;)

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 11:26am:

Greggie get with the program son. 457 visa holders  =  good blokes  =  hard workers  =  we should welcome them  (labor hate them) assylum seekers  =  selfish country shoppers  =  centrelink inhabitants  =  we should not welcome them the australian public will vote on this issue soon, and i think youre kidding yourself if you think more than the rusted on assylum industry dont see it my way. thankfully, we live in a democracy and crazies like yourself dont get to dictate policy. when even the do gooders like carr and rudd are calling them country shoppers, you need to wisen up son. ;) ;)

Let's just recap on what I've said:

"Stopping people from drowning is my main issue."

"Obviously we need to stop them getting on the boats in the first place."

You think that a policy of stopping people getting on the boats in the first place and therefore stopping them from drowning is crazy?  Really?  What's your policy: watch more people die?  Sick.

I think you may need to "wisen up son".

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 11:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:01am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:58am: $5 billion spent on these country shoppers. that could have saved literally 100,000 african kids who are innocent. Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent. parents who put their children on  leaky boats. are guilty of child abuse and neglect. they should have these children removed from them upon their arrival in oz. this seems sensible. they are unfit parents.

That's what they said about the abo's all those years ago.
Sounds like another future lost generation suing the gov.There's no way I want another Gov to put themselves in a position to sorry again, it cost too much.

Anyway this thread has gone way off course.

De-registered User wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 2:09pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:03am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:01am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:58am: $5 billion spent on these country shoppers. that could have saved literally 100,000 african kids who are innocent. Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent. parents who put their children on  leaky boats. are guilty of child abuse and neglect. they should have these children removed from them upon their arrival in oz. this seems sensible. they are unfit parents. That's what they said about the abo's all those years ago. Sounds like another future lost generation suing the gov.There's no way I want another Gov to put themselves in a position to sorry again, it cost too much. Anyway this thread has gone way off course.

indeed,  more off course than those country shoppers heading for christmas island.
more off course than the whales that beached themselves on fraser island this morning (speaking of which ,sofie isnt holidaying up there is she ;))

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aquascoot wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 2:23pm:

De-registered User wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:09pm: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:03am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:01am: aquascoot wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:58am: $5 billion spent on these country shoppers. that could have saved literally 100,000 african kids who are innocent. Children on asylum seeker boats are innocent. parents who put their children on  leaky boats. are guilty of child abuse and neglect. they should have these children removed from them upon their arrival in oz. this seems sensible. they are unfit parents. That's what they said about the abo's all those years ago. Sounds like another future lost generation suing the gov.There's no way I want another Gov to put themselves in a position to sorry again, it cost too much. Anyway this thread has gone way off course. indeed,  more off course than those country shoppers heading for christmas island. more off course than the whales that beached themselves on fraser island this morning (speaking of which ,sofie isnt holidaying up there is she ;))

She could be after her abortion the other night. The Lib's are due to a bit of house cleaning as well, lets hope.

... and matching Sophie's slippers


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