So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date.

The little dancing pony in Canberra is trying to find a date when all the planets align so that he can have another 3 years of stuffing this Country over.

The longer it is until the Election, the better the public have a chance to get over Kevin's little Halo act and see him for what he is...

An incompetent who has butchered our border protection and who has run us into 300 billion dollars debt to the Chinese.

he did give out the impression he wanted an early election... this of course before his reincarnation..funny that. its a bit like his integrity when push comes to shove it all disappears..for gods sake get it over and done with...
I for one am sick of the crap[ and the name calling.not sure what policies are about anymore as most dont eventuate anyway...as for promises well they are well and truly done for thanks to gillard...

so whats to VOTE for??? anyone know?

at least Tony hasnt had to bribe anyone to be on his front bench by pretending to have turned over a new leaf... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

trust me I am a new man.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Most socalled experts expect him to bring it forward to August because

-  To reduce the time his comrades have of scoring another own goal

-  If he miraculously does get re-elected he can attend APEC as the 'Mesiah' and this time Obama will have to salute him... ;D


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/saluteL0404_468x287-1.jpg

Rudd is not an idiot.
He needs to see what the polls are like in a few weeks
so that he can make a decision of when to go to an election.

You can't blame him for using the best time to suit labor.
The Libbos would do the same thing.

red baron wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:32am:

So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. The little dancing pony in Canberra is trying to find a date when all the planets align so that he can have another 3 years of stuffing this Country over. The longer it is until the Election, the better the public have a chance to get over Kevin's little Halo act and see him for what he is... An incompetent who has butchered our border protection and who has run us into 300 billion dollars debt to the Chinese.

Whilst I don't like the Rudd Party I think it is a could tactic hold off on the election date. It could work both ways. If he can come up with better solutions it would only benefit all Australians in the way of better politics.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:43am:

Rudd is not an idiot. He needs to see what the polls are like in a few weeks so that he can make a decision of when to go to an election. You can't blame him for using the best time to suit labor. The Libbos would do the same thing.

Ok so the latest possible date for the election is 30 Nov so maybe he wants to delay it so he can attend APEC and Lord it up on the taxpayer

gee, the election will be some time between now and the end of November ....


everyone happy now?

Rudd hides the election date.

Works well for the No-alition just means they can keep putting off releasing policies.

Gotta be happy about that Red imagine if they had to explain something in more depth than 3 words.

You'd get a nasty headache love :-?

red baron wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:32am:

So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date.

An election has not been called yet.

There is no need to call an election yet.

We have until November 30.

No one is hiding anything.

There is nothing to see here.

Swagman wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am: Rudd is not an idiot. He needs to see what the polls are like in a few weeks so that he can make a decision of when to go to an election. You can't blame him for using the best time to suit labor. The Libbos would do the same thing. Ok so the latest possible date for the election is 30 Nov so maybe he wants to delay it so he can attend APEC and Lord it up on the taxpayer

Rudd needs a bit more time to fix up the problems caused by Julia.

I would say that he'll go late - around November.

I just love how when Gillard called the date early, all you heard from the morons on here was that it created uncertainty, businesses were putting everything on hold

now Rudd, who has only been back for a few days,  is biding his time before announcing the date and you hear the same bloody excuses

John Smith wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:53am:

I just love how when Gillard called the date early, all you heard from the morons on here was that it created uncertainty, businesses were putting everything on hold now Rudd, who has only been back for a few days,  is biding his time before announcing the date and you hear the same bloody excuses

Exactly.

It's such a non-issue.

Gillard did not officially call an election.

We have until November 30.

There is no Parliamentary crisis, or any other sort of crisis in this country: everything is running relatively well.

The election will be called when our Prime Minister decides which is the best time.

Nothing to see here.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:05am:

Gillard did not officially call an election

my bad ..... wrong choice of words

http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2012/12/2013-federal-election-calender.html

I seem to remember many cheering because Howard was holding on to the job by  his claws till the last possible moment before calling an election??

red baron wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:32am:

So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. The little dancing pony in Canberra is trying to find a date when all the planets align so that he can have another 3 years of stuffing this Country over. The longer it is until the Election, the better the public have a chance to get over Kevin's little Halo act and see him for what he is... An incompetent who has butchered our border protection and who has run us into 300 billion dollars debt to the Chinese.

Red red red. Name One PM that has not decided the timing of an election?  Or shut up. You sound much brighter when you don't post.

red baron wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:32am:

So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. The little dancing pony in Canberra is trying to find a date when all the planets align so that he can have another 3 years of stuffing this Country over. The longer it is until the Election, the better the public have a chance to get over Kevin's little Halo act and see him for what he is... An incompetent who has butchered our border protection and who has run us into 300 billion dollars debt to the Chinese.

You ppl complained when gillard gave a date now you are complaing you dont have a date. Make up your minds.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 11:35am:

red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. The little dancing pony in Canberra is trying to find a date when all the planets align so that he can have another 3 years of stuffing this Country over. The longer it is until the Election, the better the public have a chance to get over Kevin's little Halo act and see him for what he is... An incompetent who has butchered our border protection and who has run us into 300 billion dollars debt to the Chinese. You ppl complained when gillard gave a date now you are complaing you dont have a date. Make up your minds. SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Who complained?  Well apart from Labor party members who thought (and correctly as it turned out) that giving away the date so far out would cede a major advantage to the opposition and would tend to freeze business activity. 

If however by "you ppl" you mean the coalition and supporters, I don't think you would have found many of them complaining.   It was a magnificent own-goal only bettered the next morning when she was back to announce two new frontbench resignations.

With that own goal and Hewsons early release of Fightback you can be assured than any intelligent and thinking govt will never concede such an advantage and for no good reason ever again.

red baron wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:32am:

So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. The little dancing pony in Canberra is trying to find a date when all the planets align so that he can have another 3 years of stuffing this Country over. The longer it is until the Election, the better the public have a chance to get over Kevin's little Halo act and see him for what he is... An incompetent who has butchered our border protection and who has run us into 300 billion dollars debt to the Chinese.

Whats your problem today?  Rudd is doing what all PMs before him had done and that is exercising his right to call an election when he wants.  Not when tony wants.

red baron wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:32am:

So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. The little dancing pony in Canberra is trying to find a date when all the planets align so that he can have another 3 years of stuffing this Country over. The longer it is until the Election, the better the public have a chance to get over Kevin's little Halo act and see him for what he is... An incompetent who has butchered our border protection and who has run us into 300 billion dollars debt to the Chinese.

Wait...so everyone bagged Julia for stopping the whole "when's the election" guessing game by clearly setting the date months ago.

But now Kev is in and the guessing game is back - and you people are still complaining!!!!

WTF do you want?

The smell of fear is strong in here!

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 12:52pm:

The smell of fear is strong in here!

It's permeated the entire forum.

Fascinating to watch.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 1:02pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:52pm: The smell of fear is strong in here! It's permeated the entire forum. Fascinating to watch.

You should see the Austerity post for desperation..I'm surprised you haven't called it yet.

Or do you only get ya knickers all knotted when its the other team  ;D ;D

Rider wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 1:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:02pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:52pm: The smell of fear is strong in here! It's permeated the entire forum. Fascinating to watch. You should see the Austerity post for desperation..I'm surprised you haven't called it yet. Or do you only get ya knickers all knotted when its the other team  ;D ;D

"ya knickers all knotted"?

What are you talking about?

I'm not upset about anything: quite the opposite.

I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the Libs panic.

It's wonderful.

I dont understand why Tony needs a date.  He has been in election mode for four years anyway, and you dont need an election date in order to accept an invitation for a debate on the economy.

Verge wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 2:17pm:

I dont understand why Tony needs a date.  He has been in election mode for four years anyway, and you dont need an election date in order to accept an invitation for a debate on the economy.

welcome back verge :)

red baron wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:32am:

So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. The little dancing pony in Canberra is trying to find a date when all the planets align so that he can have another 3 years of stuffing this Country over. The longer it is until the Election, the better the public have a chance to get over Kevin's little Halo act and see him for what he is... An incompetent who has butchered our border protection and who has run us into 300 billion dollars debt to the Chinese.

Or maybe vice versa???

;)

cods wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:37am:

he did give out the impression he wanted an early election... this of course before his reincarnation..funny that. its a bit like his integrity when push comes to shove it all disappears..for gods sake get it over and done with... I for one am sick of the crap[ and the name calling.not sure what policies are about anymore as most dont eventuate anyway...as for promises well they are well and truly done for thanks to gillard... so whats to VOTE for??? anyone know? at least Tony hasnt had to bribe anyone to be on his front bench by pretending to have turned over a new leaf... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D trust me I am a new man.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When??

:)

So sneaky little Kevin needs time to run around with band aids, plunging the million holes in the S.S. Labor.

Hallelujah , the Titanic lives! But only just.

The more time that Kevin takes, the more he will be revealed as a little dancing pony with no substance. His track record is abysmal, what evidence is there to suggest that he has anything new in his bag. Only the faces have changed, it is still a greatly divided Party and is hanging on by its rocky old legs.

Abbott needs to come in with the sword and give Labor a quick clean kill, then he can get on with repairing the Country, I don't envy him that job.

red baron wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:08pm:

So sneaky little Kevin needs time to run around with band aids, plunging the million holes in the S.S. Labor. Hallelujah , the Titanic lives! But only just. The more time that Kevin takes, the more he will be revealed as a little dancing pony with no substance. His track record is abysmal, what evidence is there to suggest that he has anything new in his bag. Only the faces have changed, it is still a greatly divided Party and is hanging on by its rocky old legs. Abbott needs to come in with the sword and give Labor a quick clean kill, then he can get on with repairing the Country, I don't envy him that job.

So if the longer it goes on the better for Abbott, why do you care if he hasnt declared a date as yet?

Verge wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:12pm:

red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:08pm: So sneaky little Kevin needs time to run around with band aids, plunging the million holes in the S.S. Labor. Hallelujah , the Titanic lives! But only just. The more time that Kevin takes, the more he will be revealed as a little dancing pony with no substance. His track record is abysmal, what evidence is there to suggest that he has anything new in his bag. Only the faces have changed, it is still a greatly divided Party and is hanging on by its rocky old legs. Abbott needs to come in with the sword and give Labor a quick clean kill, then he can get on with repairing the Country, I don't envy him that job. So if the longer it goes on the better for Abbott, why do you care if he hasnt declared a date as yet?

Because he knows the exact opposite is true ;)

And welcome back Verge, it will be nice to have a sensible centre right poster, I hope the hiatus was by choice not thru misfortune.

Aug, Sept or Oct..whats the difference?
Personally I dont give a toss when the election is.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:49am:

red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here.

So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time.

Dnarever wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 10:17am:

I seem to remember many cheering because Howard was holding on to the job by  his claws till the last possible moment before calling an election??

but he announced one election data 6 weeks out, not a FAKE date 9 months out and then change their mind and their PM.

amateur hour.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time.

Yes and the economy is doing great with the uncertainty thanks to Tony's SCRAP THIS and SCRAP THAT sloganeering.

skippy. wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 11:33am:

red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. The little dancing pony in Canberra is trying to find a date when all the planets align so that he can have another 3 years of stuffing this Country over. The longer it is until the Election, the better the public have a chance to get over Kevin's little Halo act and see him for what he is... An incompetent who has butchered our border protection and who has run us into 300 billion dollars debt to the Chinese. Red red red. Name One PM that has not decided the timing of an election?  Or shut up. You sound much brighter when you don't post.

Rudd in 2010 and Gillard in 2013

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 2:10pm:

Rider wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:02pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:52pm: The smell of fear is strong in here! It's permeated the entire forum. Fascinating to watch. You should see the Austerity post for desperation..I'm surprised you haven't called it yet. Or do you only get ya knickers all knotted when its the other team  ;D ;D "ya knickers all knotted"? What are you talking about? I'm not upset about anything: quite the opposite. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the Libs panic. It's wonderful.

this supposed liberal 'panic' is interesting. would you care to point out a single post that has panic in it. The margin has shrunk as predicted but Abbott remains firmly in front so not only am I not panicking I dont see anyone else on her doing so or in public life. IN fact I dont see any analysts even predicting Rudd will win.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time.

melielongtime, don't you get tired of writing that sort of garbage?  Sept 14 was Gillard's whom, I think you actually know, is no longer PM.  The election date is now Rudd's to nominate and just like all his predecessors, he will name the date when he wants to as is his right.

Verge wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:12pm:

red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:08pm: So sneaky little Kevin needs time to run around with band aids, plunging the million holes in the S.S. Labor. Hallelujah , the Titanic lives! But only just. The more time that Kevin takes, the more he will be revealed as a little dancing pony with no substance. His track record is abysmal, what evidence is there to suggest that he has anything new in his bag. Only the faces have changed, it is still a greatly divided Party and is hanging on by its rocky old legs. Abbott needs to come in with the sword and give Labor a quick clean kill, then he can get on with repairing the Country, I don't envy him that job. So if the longer it goes on the better for Abbott, why do you care if he hasnt declared a date as yet?

Because I for one run a business that has had govt paralysis causing it some difficulty.  Private enterprise sales are up 15% but govt is down 40% and most of the reduction came as soon as the election was announced even tho it turns out it isnt going to be the election data anyhow.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:10pm: Rider wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:02pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:52pm: The smell of fear is strong in here! It's permeated the entire forum. Fascinating to watch. You should see the Austerity post for desperation..I'm surprised you haven't called it yet. Or do you only get ya knickers all knotted when its the other team  ;D ;D "ya knickers all knotted"? What are you talking about? I'm not upset about anything: quite the opposite. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the Libs panic. It's wonderful. this supposed liberal 'panic' is interesting. would you care to point out a single post that has panic in it. The margin has shrunk as predicted but Abbott remains firmly in front so not only am I not panicking I dont see anyone else on her doing so or in public life. IN fact I dont see any analysts even predicting Rudd will win.

And yet the Lib supporters are fearful.

It's delightful.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time.

An election wasn't officially called.

The Prime Minister will call one when he sees fit.

I predict it will be a Saturday.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time. Yes and the economy is doing great with the uncertainty thanks to Tony's SCRAP THIS and SCRAP THAT sloganeering.

love that hypocrisy... you complain with the libs dont have policies and when they announce on that involves change (imagine that!) you complain yet again.  I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does.  the trouble is at this rate, the election campaign could end up be almost the entire year!!!  labor stuffups because they are more interesting in political advantage than the economy.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:50pm:

Verge wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:12pm: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:08pm: So sneaky little Kevin needs time to run around with band aids, plunging the million holes in the S.S. Labor. Hallelujah , the Titanic lives! But only just. The more time that Kevin takes, the more he will be revealed as a little dancing pony with no substance. His track record is abysmal, what evidence is there to suggest that he has anything new in his bag. Only the faces have changed, it is still a greatly divided Party and is hanging on by its rocky old legs. Abbott needs to come in with the sword and give Labor a quick clean kill, then he can get on with repairing the Country, I don't envy him that job. So if the longer it goes on the better for Abbott, why do you care if he hasnt declared a date as yet? Because I for one run a business that has had govt paralysis causing it some difficulty.  Private enterprise sales are up 15% but govt is down 40% and most of the reduction came as soon as the election was announced even tho it turns out it isnt going to be the election data anyhow.

.

Poor Greggerry, living in the rarefied air along with such luminaries as Skippy, John Smith etc.

Enjoy your false dawn, savour it, drink it because it is the only cup of joy to pass by your lips between now and the Election.

Election night will be the stuff of the slashing of wrists for Labor tragics.

So enjoy the false dawn, because that's exactly what it is a false dawn for a false prophet .i.e. KRudd

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time. melielongtime, don't you get tired of writing that sort of garbage?  Sept 14 was Gillard's whom, I think you actually know, is no longer PM.  The election date is now Rudd's to nominate and just like all his predecessors, he will name the date when he wants to as is his right.

The red-headed bitch was the first to name a date that wasnt actually the date and 9 months in advance to boot.  So the economy goes into election-mode paralysis only for 6 months later the election campaign is now OFF. And worse, it is subject to the decision-free zone that is Rudd.  What are the chances that Rudd is even able to make that decision without the GG doing it for him?  Do you recall Rudd actually making a decision in the past without 15 enquiries?

Quote:

I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does.

WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:18pm:

Verge wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:12pm: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:08pm: So sneaky little Kevin needs time to run around with band aids, plunging the million holes in the S.S. Labor. Hallelujah , the Titanic lives! But only just. The more time that Kevin takes, the more he will be revealed as a little dancing pony with no substance. His track record is abysmal, what evidence is there to suggest that he has anything new in his bag. Only the faces have changed, it is still a greatly divided Party and is hanging on by its rocky old legs. Abbott needs to come in with the sword and give Labor a quick clean kill, then he can get on with repairing the Country, I don't envy him that job. So if the longer it goes on the better for Abbott, why do you care if he hasnt declared a date as yet? Because he knows the exact opposite is true ;) And welcome back Verge, it will be nice to have a sensible centre right poster, I hope the hiatus was by choice not thru misfortune.

Purely through choice.

I decided to make the comeback as I do enjoy a bit of political banter and I love seeing people get whipped up in a frenzy over the issues that truly dont matter (boat people, same sex marriage) all the while ignoring the big ticket issues like Gonski and the NDIS.

The thought of an Abbott lead government scares the living crap out of me, but sadly the change to Rudd has happened so late it is now too late for the Libs to change to Turnbull then we could have had a great PM.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:53pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:46pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time. Yes and the economy is doing great with the uncertainty thanks to Tony's SCRAP THIS and SCRAP THAT sloganeering. love that hypocrisy... you complain with the libs dont have policies and when they announce on that involves change (imagine that!) you complain yet again.  I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does.  the trouble is at this rate, the election campaign could end up be almost the entire year!!!  labor stuffups because they are more interesting in political advantage than the economy.

Sloganeering isn't policy.  SCRAP THIS and SCRAP THAT leaves uncertainty because there is very limited to NO policy to back up the slogan, leaving business sitting around trying to understand whats going on.  Tony needs to stop hiding and come out with his complete plans so that Australian business and the electorate can actually go through what is bound to be a jigsaw and work out exactly how f**cked we're going to be afterwards.

Only the true left can get us out of the mess we are in...

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:49pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time. melielongtime, don't you get tired of writing that sort of garbage?  Sept 14 was Gillard's whom, I think you actually know, is no longer PM.  The election date is now Rudd's to nominate and just like all his predecessors, he will name the date when he wants to as is his right. The red-headed bitch was the first to name a date that wasnt actually the date and 9 months in advance to boot.  So the economy goes into election-mode paralysis only for 6 months later the election campaign is now OFF. And worse, it is subject to the decision-free zone that is Rudd.  What are the chances that Rudd is even able to make that decision without the GG doing it for him?  Do you recall Rudd actually making a decision in the past without 15 enquiries?

Better to have enquiries than do what wankjob women hating tony does and sit on the toilet until a thought bubble appears.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:53pm:

I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does.

If that's the major discussion point I'd suggest that they're not very good business people.

The election will be held by November 30 this year.

There's no uncertainty about that.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:49pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time. melielongtime, don't you get tired of writing that sort of garbage?  Sept 14 was Gillard's whom, I think you actually know, is no longer PM.  The election date is now Rudd's to nominate and just like all his predecessors, he will name the date when he wants to as is his right. The red-headed bitch was the first to name a date that wasnt actually the date and 9 months in advance to boot.  So the economy goes into election-mode paralysis only for 6 months later the election campaign is now OFF. And worse, it is subject to the decision-free zone that is Rudd.  What are the chances that Rudd is even able to make that decision without the GG doing it for him?  Do you recall Rudd actually making a decision in the past without 15 enquiries?

So what your saying is Tony Abbott should have voted with Labor for an ETS back in 2010?

Is that it, new leaders must abide by what the old leaders promised?

That's debatable 40% of my business is government based its ticking along nicely, but I'll accept every industry has its own requirements, but its hardly the WHOLE economy

Then you've got no worries have you, the only thing that changes is the election date & that can ONLY be pushed out to the 30/11/12, which again his already ruled out 3 Saturdays both footy code grand final w/ends & the 14/9/13.
there's no time to form committees or have inquiries

So relax, remember that Fear you said you couldn't see, read your post.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:46pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:33am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. The little dancing pony in Canberra is trying to find a date when all the planets align so that he can have another 3 years of stuffing this Country over. The longer it is until the Election, the better the public have a chance to get over Kevin's little Halo act and see him for what he is... An incompetent who has butchered our border protection and who has run us into 300 billion dollars debt to the Chinese. Red red red. Name One PM that has not decided the timing of an election?  Or shut up. You sound much brighter when you don't post. Rudd in 2010 and Gillard in 2013

Wow, you are on your stupid pills. Ok I'll entertain your stupidity, it's akin to saying Turnbull will decide when this election is, see? It's stupid. The PM THAT IS IN POWER WHEN AN ELECTION IS DUE CALLS THE DATE, FMD, has it come to this that we have to change your smacking nappy for you?

The election is when it is and only a fool would get their knickers in a knot over a month here or there.
Im putting my money on the date being Sept 14th to be announced once Kevin and his Ministers have got policies and strategies bedded down.
We all know that no matter who gets in that there will be massive cuts in govt spending so anyone with a business that relies on govt contracts had better get plan B out of the bottom drawer.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:48pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:10pm: Rider wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:02pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:52pm: The smell of fear is strong in here! It's permeated the entire forum. Fascinating to watch. You should see the Austerity post for desperation..I'm surprised you haven't called it yet. Or do you only get ya knickers all knotted when its the other team  ;D ;D "ya knickers all knotted"? What are you talking about? I'm not upset about anything: quite the opposite. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the Libs panic. It's wonderful. this supposed liberal 'panic' is interesting. would you care to point out a single post that has panic in it. The margin has shrunk as predicted but Abbott remains firmly in front so not only am I not panicking I dont see anyone else on her doing so or in public life. IN fact I dont see any analysts even predicting Rudd will win. And yet the Lib supporters are fearful. It's delightful.

lovely circular argument. you say there is panic because... you say there is panic.  It is at least consistent with your previous posts on illegal vs unlawful.  I suppose you ahve a new definition of 'panic' as well as your new definition of 'unlawful'.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time. An election wasn't officially called. The Prime Minister will call one when he sees fit. I predict it will be a Saturday.

the economy deigns to differ. The economy responded to the sep 14 election called in January.  But at least we hae yet another labor lie to add to the very long list.

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Quote: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does. WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime.

if you were ever in business esp small business you would know that everytime an election is called, business slows down. Every time.  I dont know why, but that doesnt stop it from being true.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time.

pathetic ...

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 4:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:53pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:46pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time. Yes and the economy is doing great with the uncertainty thanks to Tony's SCRAP THIS and SCRAP THAT sloganeering. love that hypocrisy... you complain with the libs dont have policies and when they announce on that involves change (imagine that!) you complain yet again.  I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does.  the trouble is at this rate, the election campaign could end up be almost the entire year!!!  labor stuffups because they are more interesting in political advantage than the economy. Sloganeering isn't policy.  SCRAP THIS and SCRAP THAT leaves uncertainty because there is very limited to NO policy to back up the slogan, leaving business sitting around trying to understand whats going on.  Tony needs to stop hiding and come out with his complete plans so that Australian business and the electorate can actually go through what is bound to be a jigsaw and work out exactly how f**cked we're going to be afterwards.

apparently it WAS policy in 2007 when it was 'SCRAP WORKCHOICES'. and remember that there was no actual IR policy at the time, just scrap workchoices.

so... wrong again.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:57pm: Quote: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does. WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime. if you were ever in business esp small business you would know that everytime an election is called, business slows down. Every time.  I dont know why, but that doesnt stop it from being true.

Just imagine how slow things are gonna get when Mr Abbott hold a DD every 6 mths  :D

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 5:01pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:55pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:49pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time. melielongtime, don't you get tired of writing that sort of garbage?  Sept 14 was Gillard's whom, I think you actually know, is no longer PM.  The election date is now Rudd's to nominate and just like all his predecessors, he will name the date when he wants to as is his right. The red-headed bitch was the first to name a date that wasnt actually the date and 9 months in advance to boot.  So the economy goes into election-mode paralysis only for 6 months later the election campaign is now OFF. And worse, it is subject to the decision-free zone that is Rudd.  What are the chances that Rudd is even able to make that decision without the GG doing it for him?  Do you recall Rudd actually making a decision in the past without 15 enquiries? Better to have enquiries than do what wankjob women hating tony does and sit on the toilet until a thought bubble appears.

surely you are not (insert mocking laugh) actually defending the Rudd methodology of how not to make a decision of any kind while working you and your staff to death  doing so?  EVERYBODY who has worked with Rudd has said that he is incapable of making any decisions other than those that directly impact him and his ego.  REmember the 'greatest moral challeng of our time'??

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:57pm: Quote: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does. WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime. if you were ever in business esp small business you would know that everytime an election is called, business slows down. Every time.  I dont know why, but that doesnt stop it from being true.

Well, I guess owning a legal practice is being in 'small business,' and I'm certain that owning and operating Cabs also is in 'small business.'  All I've ever seen is the usual seasonal cycles.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 5:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:53pm: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does.  If that's the major discussion point I'd suggest that they're not very good business people. The election will be held by November 30 this year. There's no uncertainty about that.

you've not been anywhere near business have you?  Its not about being good or bad business but elections cause most people top be hesitant in spending esp on big ticket items and so a lot of business across the board note a very obvious drop-off in trade.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 5:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:55pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:49pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:49am: red baron wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:32am: So sneaky little Kevin is hiding the election date. An election has not been called yet. There is no need to call an election yet. We have until November 30. No one is hiding anything. There is nothing to see here. So the announcement of a sept 14 election date turns out to be just another failed labor announcement.  the economy stumbles under the paralysis of an election campaign for the past 6 months only to find it wasnt an election campaign after all.. ONly labor could possibly mess so much up at the same time. melielongtime, don't you get tired of writing that sort of garbage?  Sept 14 was Gillard's whom, I think you actually know, is no longer PM.  The election date is now Rudd's to nominate and just like all his predecessors, he will name the date when he wants to as is his right. The red-headed bitch was the first to name a date that wasnt actually the date and 9 months in advance to boot.  So the economy goes into election-mode paralysis only for 6 months later the election campaign is now OFF. And worse, it is subject to the decision-free zone that is Rudd.  What are the chances that Rudd is even able to make that decision without the GG doing it for him?  Do you recall Rudd actually making a decision in the past without 15 enquiries? So what your saying is Tony Abbott should have voted with Labor for an ETS back in 2010? Is that it, new leaders must abide by what the old leaders promised? That's debatable 40% of my business is government based its ticking along nicely, but I'll accept every industry has its own requirements, but its hardly the WHOLE economy Then you've got no worries have you, the only thing that changes is the election date & that can ONLY be pushed out to the 30/11/12, which again his already ruled out 3 Saturdays both footy code grand final w/ends & the 14/9/13. there's no time to form committees or have inquiries So relax, remember that Fear you said you couldn't see, read your post.

individal examples prove nothing - such as your business. But the paralysois during election campaigns is well known.  that is why business was so angry at the 9 month campaign that has now turned into the 'who knows when' campaign which in true Rudd style is the only decision he made that could possibly make  Gillards election dates decision WORSE

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:57pm: Quote: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does. WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime. if you were ever in business esp small business you would know that everytime an election is called, business slows down. Every time.  I dont know why, but that doesnt stop it from being true.

I spent 15 yrs running a business where 90% of my work was govt. based, rarely was it affected by elections, what rubbish. End of financial year presented more problems for me than an election, and even then, that was only for a couple of weeks whilst old budgets ended and new ones were kicked off.  ...... . That may be the case with your business, but don't try to imply that it applies to businesses in general. Most govt. contracts are awarded and budgets determined long before an election is called.  The fact that an election is called doesn't change the contracts entered into previously.  If your contract has expired with months to go until an election, you should maybe blame yourself ... you knew 3 yrs ago that there would be an election this year.

Who are those who're desperate for an election date ?  What's their point ?

Are they like kids who want Christmas or their birthday to hurry up ?

Whoopty doo, huh.  The day when most Aussies trudge up to the local school and made doodles on bits of paper

Gee, the world will change, right ?

An election will make everyone's problems just go away !

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 6:17pm:

you've not been anywhere near business have you?

LOL  If only you knew.



longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 6:17pm:

Its not about being good or bad business but elections cause most people to be hesitant in spending esp on big ticket items and so a lot of business across the board note a very obvious drop-off in trade.

Nonsense.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 6:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:50pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:48pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:10pm: Rider wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:02pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:52pm: The smell of fear is strong in here! It's permeated the entire forum. Fascinating to watch. You should see the Austerity post for desperation..I'm surprised you haven't called it yet. Or do you only get ya knickers all knotted when its the other team  ;D ;D "ya knickers all knotted"? What are you talking about? I'm not upset about anything: quite the opposite. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the Libs panic. It's wonderful. this supposed liberal 'panic' is interesting. would you care to point out a single post that has panic in it. The margin has shrunk as predicted but Abbott remains firmly in front so not only am I not panicking I dont see anyone else on her doing so or in public life. IN fact I dont see any analysts even predicting Rudd will win. And yet the Lib supporters are fearful. It's delightful. lovely circular argument. you say there is panic because... you say there is panic.  It is at least consistent with your previous posts on illegal vs unlawful.  I suppose you ahve a new definition of 'panic' as well as your new definition of 'unlawful'.

One only has to look at the new threads started in the last few days by Maqqa and red baron.

The fear and panic is real.

I'm loving it.

My local cafe is up in arms over this. You know what they said to me the other day - "would you like chicken salt on the potato cakes.". You can tell they are furious.

Verge wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:49pm:

My local cafe is up in arms over this. You know what they said to me the other day - "would you like chicken salt on the potato cakes.". You can tell they are furious.

Yes, apparently not knowing when the next federal election is going to be held will cause all sorts of problems and confusion.  Chicken salt indeed.

Next time you're getting some potato cakes just let them know that there are two things that they can be certain of:

1. The election will be on a Saturday.

2. It will be no later than November 30, 2013.


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Verge wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:49pm:

My local cafe is up in arms over this. You know what they said to me the other day - "would you like chicken salt on the potato cakes.". You can tell they are furious.

oh how I'd love a potato cake right about now.  But my cafe has shut doors until such time as Rudd announces an election - they are too worried. ;)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:11pm:

Verge wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:49pm: My local cafe is up in arms over this. You know what they said to me the other day - "would you like chicken salt on the potato cakes.". You can tell they are furious. oh how I'd love a potato cake right about now.  But my cafe has shut doors until such time as Rudd announces an election - they are too worried. ;)

Well, you could fly to New Zealand and buy a potato cake (choice bro!), however, the airports have all been closed.

It's just too risky to fly until the airlines know exactly when the election will be held. 

My local butcher is worse. He sato me the other day - "it's a cold one today". Poor man is going into shock over the whole thing

;D ;D

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:26pm:

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You know why Rudd is so liked in the elecotrate - it''s because all the cartoons of him resemble TinTin.  How can one hatte TinTin?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 9:29pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 9:26pm: http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/07/02/1226673/352421-130703-leak.jpeg You know why Rudd is so liked in the elecotrate - it''s because all the cartoons of him resemble TinTin.  How can one hatte TinTin?

Yep, you just beat me to it. Good find, sprint. ;D

Verge wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:49pm:

My local cafe is up in arms over this. You know what they said to me the other day - "would you like chicken salt on the potato cakes.". You can tell they are furious.

You think they were upset, I was offered vinegar on my chips!

Sneaky little Kevin wants debates but he won't announce an election date.

You naughty little miscreant Kevin, you can't have it both ways.

Now he has admitted that he made mistakes with 'the boats' policy.

Mistake..uhhh yes..that's one way of putting it..45,000 mistakes actually Kev.

Not too many of us make mistakes that big, that is a King Kong size mistake.

Difference between Kevvie and Tin Tin....Tin Tin had a brain.

red baron wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:21am:

Sneaky little Kevin wants debates but he won't announce an election date.

I'll guarantee you he will announce an election date before November 30 this year.

Where's the problem?

Why do you Libs keep going on about an election date?

Just another distraction.

This was Howard's favourite game so the coalition have nothing to complain about.

Just like every prime minister before him - Rudd will go to the election when it suits him best.

I expect an election date will be announced some time in July - especially if the polls turn in the ALP's favour.

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 6:16pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:12pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:57pm: Quote: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does. WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime. if you were ever in business esp small business you would know that everytime an election is called, business slows down. Every time.  I dont know why, but that doesnt stop it from being true. Well, I guess owning a legal practice is being in 'small business,' and I'm certain that owning and operating Cabs also is in 'small business.'  All I've ever seen is the usual seasonal cycles.

I did say that some industries are immune to the election-slowdown.  Industries that operate on anything like discretionary expenditure like retail or any services that can be delayed.  If you do criminal law then they are going to need a lawyer regardless to the election.  But you might forgo that new car or that training or a new TV for a few months or longer. But you wont put off getting your drains unclogged for example.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:17pm: you've not been anywhere near business have you?  LOL  If only you knew. longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:17pm: Its not about being good or bad business but elections cause most people to be hesitant in spending esp on big ticket items and so a lot of business across the board note a very obvious drop-off in trade. Nonsense.

nonsense because it didnt happen to YOU?  As mentioned previously, the election-induced slowdown is known through the retail and services sector.  Pretending it isnt true does you not good.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:08pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:50pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:48pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:10pm: Rider wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:54pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:02pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 12:52pm: The smell of fear is strong in here! It's permeated the entire forum. Fascinating to watch. You should see the Austerity post for desperation..I'm surprised you haven't called it yet. Or do you only get ya knickers all knotted when its the other team  ;D ;D "ya knickers all knotted"? What are you talking about? I'm not upset about anything: quite the opposite. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the Libs panic. It's wonderful. this supposed liberal 'panic' is interesting. would you care to point out a single post that has panic in it. The margin has shrunk as predicted but Abbott remains firmly in front so not only am I not panicking I dont see anyone else on her doing so or in public life. IN fact I dont see any analysts even predicting Rudd will win. And yet the Lib supporters are fearful. It's delightful. lovely circular argument. you say there is panic because... you say there is panic.  It is at least consistent with your previous posts on illegal vs unlawful.  I suppose you ahve a new definition of 'panic' as well as your new definition of 'unlawful'. One only has to look at the new threads started in the last few days by Maqqa and red baron. The fear and panic is real. I'm loving it.

a swag of threads by Maqqa is new????  And this time he is complaining about Rudd... how exactly is that even out of character?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:38am:

red baron wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 8:21am: Sneaky little Kevin wants debates but he won't announce an election date. I'll guarantee you he will announce an election date before November 30 this year. Where's the problem? Why do you Libs keep going on about an election date? Just another distraction.

maybe, just maybe because for the entire yer the date was sept 14 and now it is...

?????

Say what you want about Howard but he announced an election date ONCE and then dissolved parliament and got on with it.  Labor announces a date almost a year ahead and then tru to form reneges on the promise.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:28pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:17pm: you've not been anywhere near business have you?  LOL  If only you knew. longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:17pm: Its not about being good or bad business but elections cause most people to be hesitant in spending esp on big ticket items and so a lot of business across the board note a very obvious drop-off in trade. Nonsense. nonsense because it didnt happen to YOU?  As mentioned previously, the election-induced slowdown is known through the retail and services sector.  Pretending it isnt true does you not good.

Only selected services, and those who are backed by government funding.

Retail has slowed as the savings ratio remained high at 10.6 per cent, while dwelling investment remained unchanged.

Consumers are remaining reasonably cautious and trying to reduce debt. Its not because of an election date.

We also knew there would be an election date before November 30, so whether it is August, Sept, Oct or November doesnt really matter.

IF ANYTHING IT SUGGESTS TONY'S PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT WALK IN AND SLASH AND BURN APPROACH HAS PEOPLE FAR MORE WORRIED THAN A CONTINUATION OF THE SAME.

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:52am:

This was Howard's favourite game so the coalition have nothing to complain about. Just like every prime minister before him - Rudd will go to the election when it suits him best. I expect an election date will be announced some time in July - especially if the polls turn in the ALP's favour.

Id say there is a good change Rudd will read the morgan poll and think labor is in front and call and election.  But of course that would require a DECISION and thats not exactly Mr Magoo's atrength, is it?

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:30am:

maybe, just maybe because for the entire yer the date was sept 14 and now it is...

Suggested date.

No election was called.

It still might be that date.

It will be sometime between now and November 30.

There's nothing to see here.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:31am:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 8:52am: This was Howard's favourite game so the coalition have nothing to complain about. Just like every prime minister before him - Rudd will go to the election when it suits him best. I expect an election date will be announced some time in July - especially if the polls turn in the ALP's favour. Id say there is a good change Rudd will read the morgan poll and think labor is in front and call and election.  But of course that would require a DECISION and thats not exactly Mr Magoo's atrength, is it?

They'll wait until they see galaxy and news poll.

It's still the coalitions to win, however they aren't as sure of the result now.

If Kevin does manage to win (somehow) it will be all about Tony Abbott more than what people think of the ALP.

This might shape up as a mirror to 1993 - The ALP are returned with a 1.5% swing (+6 to the ALP) only to be booted out at the next election.

Of course this is probably all moot as it's still the coalitions to lose (55% chance they'll still win!)

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 11:43am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:31am: Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 8:52am: This was Howard's favourite game so the coalition have nothing to complain about. Just like every prime minister before him - Rudd will go to the election when it suits him best. I expect an election date will be announced some time in July - especially if the polls turn in the ALP's favour. Id say there is a good change Rudd will read the morgan poll and think labor is in front and call and election.  But of course that would require a DECISION and thats not exactly Mr Magoo's atrength, is it? They'll wait until they see galaxy and news poll. It's still the coalitions to win, however they aren't as sure of the result now. If Kevin does manage to win (somehow) it will be all about Tony Abbott more than what people think of the ALP. This might shape up as a mirror to 1993 - The ALP are returned with a 1.5% swing (+6 to the ALP) only to be booted out at the next election. Of course this is probably all moot as it's still the coalitions to lose (55% chance they'll still win!)

Not according to the latest Morgan Poll its not.

KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short.

Socrates wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 12:37pm:

KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short.

That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week?

Are swinging voters actually laborites?

Verge wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 12:09pm:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 11:43am: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:31am: Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 8:52am: This was Howard's favourite game so the coalition have nothing to complain about. Just like every prime minister before him - Rudd will go to the election when it suits him best. I expect an election date will be announced some time in July - especially if the polls turn in the ALP's favour. Id say there is a good change Rudd will read the morgan poll and think labor is in front and call and election.  But of course that would require a DECISION and thats not exactly Mr Magoo's atrength, is it? They'll wait until they see galaxy and news poll. It's still the coalitions to win, however they aren't as sure of the result now. If Kevin does manage to win (somehow) it will be all about Tony Abbott more than what people think of the ALP. This might shape up as a mirror to 1993 - The ALP are returned with a 1.5% swing (+6 to the ALP) only to be booted out at the next election. Of course this is probably all moot as it's still the coalitions to lose (55% chance they'll still win!) Not according to the latest Morgan Poll its not.

the same polling group that gave Gillard a 5% lead 8 months ago???  Might as well rtust a yahoo poll with that level of credibility.

Verge wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 12:40pm:

Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:37pm: KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short. That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week? Are swinging voters actually laborites?

We are talking about the same thing?  He's not coming up with an election date for the above reasons. If we are to rely on polls, and for arguments sake, let's say they are accurate, why not use the opportunity to name the election date?

Socrates wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 1:14pm:

Verge wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:37pm: KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short. That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week? Are swinging voters actually laborites? We are talking about the same thing?  He's not coming up with an election date for the above reasons. If we are to rely on polls, and for arguments sake, let's say they are accurate, why not use the opportunity to name the election date?

I can not think of one PM who announced an election date well before it was called. All he is doing so far is the same as every preceding PM.

If he did announce it the idiots would complain about that. . . .

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Dnarever wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 1:19pm:

Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:14pm: Verge wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:37pm: KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short. That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week? Are swinging voters actually laborites? We are talking about the same thing?  He's not coming up with an election date for the above reasons. If we are to rely on polls, and for arguments sake, let's say they are accurate, why not use the opportunity to name the election date? I can not think of one PM who announced an election date well before it was called. All he is doing so far is the same as every preceding PM.

seriously????  GILLARD?????  sept 14???

you have turned into quite a disapporintment.  you now post like adelcrow whose contributions fail as toilet paper.

Socrates wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 1:14pm:

Verge wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:37pm: KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short. That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week? Are swinging voters actually laborites? We are talking about the same thing?  He's not coming up with an election date for the above reasons. If we are to rely on polls, and for arguments sake, let's say they are accurate, why not use the opportunity to name the election date?

Considering you all accuse him of being a micro manager, shouldnt he be given time to consult before making a decision on the date?

Socrates wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 12:37pm:

KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can.

The election will be held on a Saturday.  That's a certainty.

The election will be held no later than November 30 this year.  That's a certainty.

This is a non-issue.  That's a certainty.

The Liberal Party are in panic mode.  That's a certainty.

Verge wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 4:20pm:

Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:14pm: Verge wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:37pm: KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short. That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week? Are swinging voters actually laborites? We are talking about the same thing?  He's not coming up with an election date for the above reasons. If we are to rely on polls, and for arguments sake, let's say they are accurate, why not use the opportunity to name the election date? Considering you all accuse him of being a micro manager, shouldnt he be given time to consult before making a decision on the date?

I just realised that you are a NEW member and not the old verge.  Makes senses since you post nothing like him.

Yes Longy,
the old Verge was very smart but this guy is like a lamb amongst wolves.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

Yes Longy, the old Verge was very smart but this guy is like a lamb amongst wolves.

Id say his last siz months was spent:
1) in jail
2) mandatory detention in the psych ward
3) too poor to afford interent

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 6:32pm: Yes Longy, the old Verge was very smart but this guy is like a lamb amongst wolves. Id say his last siz months was spent: 1) in jail 2) mandatory detention in the psych ward 3) too poor to afford interent

Yes he's not the brightest candle on the cake but we'll teach him.
How come he got the name Verge?

Bobby. wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2013 at 8:43am:

Rudd is not an idiot. He needs to see what the polls are like in a few weeks so that he can make a decision of when to go to an election. You can't blame him for using the best time to suit labor. The Libbos would do the same thing.

The so-called Libbos aren't In Charge of Australia. YET! KRudd is a show pony and you obviously approve of him spending OUR money, showing off?

White Dove wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am: Rudd is not an idiot. He needs to see what the polls are like in a few weeks so that he can make a decision of when to go to an election. You can't blame him for using the best time to suit labor. The Libbos would do the same thing. The so-called Libbos aren't In Charge of Australia. YET! KRudd is a show pony and you obviously approve of him spending OUR money, showing off?

No - are you on Prozac?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:38am:

red baron wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 8:21am: Sneaky little Kevin wants debates but he won't announce an election date. I'll guarantee you he will announce an election date before November 30 this year. Where's the problem? Why do you Libs keep going on about an election date? Just another distraction.

To justify Abbott's gutless refusal to front up to a debate.

No budgie in the smugglers, Tony???

;)

Bobby. wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:12pm:

White Dove wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 8:06pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am: Rudd is not an idiot. He needs to see what the polls are like in a few weeks so that he can make a decision of when to go to an election. You can't blame him for using the best time to suit labor. The Libbos would do the same thing. The so-called Libbos aren't In Charge of Australia. YET! KRudd is a show pony and you obviously approve of him spending OUR money, showing off? No - are you on Prozac?

Not yet.  ;)

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 10:24am:

Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:16pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:12pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:57pm: Quote: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does. WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime. if you were ever in business esp small business you would know that everytime an election is called, business slows down. Every time.  I dont know why, but that doesnt stop it from being true. Well, I guess owning a legal practice is being in 'small business,' and I'm certain that owning and operating Cabs also is in 'small business.'  All I've ever seen is the usual seasonal cycles. I did say that some industries are immune to the election-slowdown.  Industries that operate on anything like discretionary expenditure like retail or any services that can be delayed.  If you do criminal law then they are going to need a lawyer regardless to the election.  But you might forgo that new car or that training or a new TV for a few months or longer. But you wont put off getting your drains unclogged for example.

In 40-odd years I never experienced an 'election-slowdown'.
EOFY......Yes.
Good time to carry out maintenance.

Run down to Christmas shutdown....Yes.
'Nother good time for maintenance.

Never had an 'election-slowdown'.

:)

White Dove wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 8:12pm: White Dove wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 8:06pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am: Rudd is not an idiot. He needs to see what the polls are like in a few weeks so that he can make a decision of when to go to an election. You can't blame him for using the best time to suit labor. The Libbos would do the same thing. The so-called Libbos aren't In Charge of Australia. YET! KRudd is a show pony and you obviously approve of him spending OUR money, showing off? No - are you on Prozac? Not yet.  ;)

But your replies seem to draw a long bow.

forgiven

namaste

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 4:17pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:19pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:14pm: Verge wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:37pm: KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short. That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week? Are swinging voters actually laborites? We are talking about the same thing?  He's not coming up with an election date for the above reasons. If we are to rely on polls, and for arguments sake, let's say they are accurate, why not use the opportunity to name the election date? I can not think of one PM who announced an election date well before it was called. All he is doing so far is the same as every preceding PM. seriously????  GILLARD?????  sept 14??? you have turned into quite a disapporintment.  you now post like adelcrow whose contributions fail as toilet paper.

I sort of meant an election which took place and Gillard was the obvious exception - I mistakenly thought you smart enough to understand that I was excluding Julia with the statement ???

Verge wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 4:20pm:

Considering you all accuse him of being a micro manager, shouldnt he be given time to consult before making a decision on the date?

Following this statement where he basically owned about half the conservatives it was stated that supposedly new verge is dumb. It asks the question of how dumb are his critics.

Lobo wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:24am: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:16pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:12pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:57pm: Quote: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does. WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime. if you were ever in business esp small business you would know that everytime an election is called, business slows down. Every time.  I dont know why, but that doesnt stop it from being true. Well, I guess owning a legal practice is being in 'small business,' and I'm certain that owning and operating Cabs also is in 'small business.'  All I've ever seen is the usual seasonal cycles. I did say that some industries are immune to the election-slowdown.  Industries that operate on anything like discretionary expenditure like retail or any services that can be delayed.  If you do criminal law then they are going to need a lawyer regardless to the election.  But you might forgo that new car or that training or a new TV for a few months or longer. But you wont put off getting your drains unclogged for example. In 40-odd years I never experienced an 'election-slowdown'. EOFY......Yes. Good time to carry out maintenance. Run down to Christmas shutdown....Yes. 'Nother good time for maintenance. Never had an 'election-slowdown'. :)

Exactly.

This "election date uncertainty" is the biggest load of crap I've seen in quite some time.

Try harder Libs.

The Libs are using the lack of a date as an excuse to keep Abbott away from a policy debate.

They know the chances of him sticking his foot in his gob are very high.

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 6:03am:

The Libs are using the lack of a date as an excuse to keep Abbott away from a policy debate. They know the chances of him sticking his foot in his gob are very high.

Hahahha He thinks he is great though so he will do it

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

So sneaky little Kevin wants to hide his election date.

Most probably later rather that  sooner after the Federal Government was blamed for the deaths of 3 people attributed directly to them because of their indecent haste in the pink batts fiasco.

Still remember that, Indians wandering up and down your street wanting to put in new insulation whether you needed it or not.

Then came the deaths and what started out a circus got very bad indeed.

Rudd apologised, I'm sure that helps out the bereaved families no end.

Bobby. wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 7:59pm: Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 6:32pm: Yes Longy, the old Verge was very smart but this guy is like a lamb amongst wolves. Id say his last siz months was spent: 1) in jail 2) mandatory detention in the psych ward 3) too poor to afford interent Yes he's not the brightest candle on the cake but we'll teach him. How come he got the name Verge?

Because I deactivated my account Bobby thats why, and when I went to log in it said I didnt have a valid username, so I had to re-register.

Im sure a mod if they could be bothered would be able to find out it is the same email address for both accounts.

As for you teaching me, pfft, please.

Maybe a few of you need to take a step back and evaluate your own political views for a while and stop listening to each others spin.

Lobo wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 8:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:24am: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:16pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:12pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:57pm: Quote: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does. WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime. if you were ever in business esp small business you would know that everytime an election is called, business slows down. Every time.  I dont know why, but that doesnt stop it from being true. Well, I guess owning a legal practice is being in 'small business,' and I'm certain that owning and operating Cabs also is in 'small business.'  All I've ever seen is the usual seasonal cycles. I did say that some industries are immune to the election-slowdown.  Industries that operate on anything like discretionary expenditure like retail or any services that can be delayed.  If you do criminal law then they are going to need a lawyer regardless to the election.  But you might forgo that new car or that training or a new TV for a few months or longer. But you wont put off getting your drains unclogged for example. In 40-odd years I never experienced an 'election-slowdown'. EOFY......Yes. Good time to carry out maintenance. Run down to Christmas shutdown....Yes. 'Nother good time for maintenance. Never had an 'election-slowdown'. :)

what industry does your business operate in?  I never said it was across the board, but it is quite genuine in sectors with  disctretionary purchases.

Dnarever wrote on Jul 4^th, 2013 at 9:08pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 4:17pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:19pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:14pm: Verge wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:37pm: KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short. That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week? Are swinging voters actually laborites? We are talking about the same thing?  He's not coming up with an election date for the above reasons. If we are to rely on polls, and for arguments sake, let's say they are accurate, why not use the opportunity to name the election date? I can not think of one PM who announced an election date well before it was called. All he is doing so far is the same as every preceding PM. seriously????  GILLARD?????  sept 14??? you have turned into quite a disapporintment.  you now post like adelcrow whose contributions fail as toilet paper. I sort of meant an election which took place and Gillard was the obvious exception - I mistakenly thought you smart enough to understand that I was excluding Julia with the statement ???

Gillard is the ONLY person to do so and to therefore presume that your comment excluded her is silly if not pitiful.  the entire point of the topic was that only one PM - Gillard - has done so.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 12:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 9:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 4:17pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:19pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:14pm: Verge wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:37pm: KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short. That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week? Are swinging voters actually laborites? We are talking about the same thing?  He's not coming up with an election date for the above reasons. If we are to rely on polls, and for arguments sake, let's say they are accurate, why not use the opportunity to name the election date? I can not think of one PM who announced an election date well before it was called. All he is doing so far is the same as every preceding PM. seriously????  GILLARD?????  sept 14??? you have turned into quite a disapporintment.  you now post like adelcrow whose contributions fail as toilet paper. I sort of meant an election which took place and Gillard was the obvious exception - I mistakenly thought you smart enough to understand that I was excluding Julia with the statement ??? Gillard is the ONLY person to do so and to therefore presume that your comment excluded her is silly if not pitiful.  the entire point of the topic was that only one PM - Gillard - has done so.

the entire point of the topic was that only one PM - Gillard - has done so


Quote:

Rudd's new game - hide the Election date

Your words seem to not relate to the facts.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 12:33pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 8:28pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:24am: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:16pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:12pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:57pm: Quote: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does. WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime. if you were ever in business esp small business you would know that everytime an election is called, business slows down. Every time.  I dont know why, but that doesnt stop it from being true. Well, I guess owning a legal practice is being in 'small business,' and I'm certain that owning and operating Cabs also is in 'small business.'  All I've ever seen is the usual seasonal cycles. I did say that some industries are immune to the election-slowdown.  Industries that operate on anything like discretionary expenditure like retail or any services that can be delayed.  If you do criminal law then they are going to need a lawyer regardless to the election.  But you might forgo that new car or that training or a new TV for a few months or longer. But you wont put off getting your drains unclogged for example. In 40-odd years I never experienced an 'election-slowdown'. EOFY......Yes. Good time to carry out maintenance. Run down to Christmas shutdown....Yes. 'Nother good time for maintenance. Never had an 'election-slowdown'. :) what industry does your business operate in?  I never said it was across the board, but it is quite genuine in sectors with  disctretionary purchases.

Manufacturing....

Not mine any more, son took over ten years ago.

And you are the only one I have seen/heard refer to an "election-slowdown".

Asked the lad what one was, and he hadn't heard of it either.
He's off to a dinner tonight and is going to poll the attendees to see how many have heard of it.

:)

Dnarever wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 1:19pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 5th, 2013 at 12:34pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 9:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 4:17pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:19pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:14pm: Verge wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:37pm: KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short. That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week? Are swinging voters actually laborites? We are talking about the same thing?  He's not coming up with an election date for the above reasons. If we are to rely on polls, and for arguments sake, let's say they are accurate, why not use the opportunity to name the election date? I can not think of one PM who announced an election date well before it was called. All he is doing so far is the same as every preceding PM. seriously????  GILLARD?????  sept 14??? you have turned into quite a disapporintment.  you now post like adelcrow whose contributions fail as toilet paper. I sort of meant an election which took place and Gillard was the obvious exception - I mistakenly thought you smart enough to understand that I was excluding Julia with the statement ??? Gillard is the ONLY person to do so and to therefore presume that your comment excluded her is silly if not pitiful.  the entire point of the topic was that only one PM - Gillard - has done so. the entire point of the topic was that only one PM - Gillard - has done so Quote: Rudd's new game - hide the Election date Your words seem to not relate to the facts.

you mean because there is ANOTHER PM that has announced an election date well in advanced and then have it evaporate??? it has only ever happened ONCE which is now - a fact you seem to have repeated trouble accepting.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 4:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 5th, 2013 at 1:19pm: Your words seem to not relate to the facts. you mean because there is ANOTHER PM that has announced an election date well in advanced and then have it evaporate??? it has only ever happened ONCE which is now - a fact you seem to have repeated trouble accepting.

You think that Rudd should be tied to the previous announcement and isn't entitled to make his own decision??

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 4:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 5th, 2013 at 1:19pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 5th, 2013 at 12:34pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 9:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 4:17pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:19pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 1:14pm: Verge wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:40pm: Socrates wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:37pm: KRUDD 's strategy is to maintain a state of uncertainty for as long as he can. This creates doubt and the usual simpletons look towards a reassuring liar like him who promotes illogical solutions to problems he created in the first place. The average Laborite has the attention span of a gnat and the gullibility of a three year old child, they are desperate to believe in anything which a convincing philistine like KRUDD tells them. Their memories are extremely short. That doesnt make sense as their primary support has jumped how many percent in a week? Are swinging voters actually laborites? We are talking about the same thing?  He's not coming up with an election date for the above reasons. If we are to rely on polls, and for arguments sake, let's say they are accurate, why not use the opportunity to name the election date? I can not think of one PM who announced an election date well before it was called. All he is doing so far is the same as every preceding PM. seriously????  GILLARD?????  sept 14??? you have turned into quite a disapporintment.  you now post like adelcrow whose contributions fail as toilet paper. I sort of meant an election which took place and Gillard was the obvious exception - I mistakenly thought you smart enough to understand that I was excluding Julia with the statement ??? Gillard is the ONLY person to do so and to therefore presume that your comment excluded her is silly if not pitiful.  the entire point of the topic was that only one PM - Gillard - has done so. the entire point of the topic was that only one PM - Gillard - has done so Quote: Rudd's new game - hide the Election date Your words seem to not relate to the facts. you mean because there is ANOTHER PM that has announced an election date well in advanced and then have it evaporate??? it has only ever happened ONCE which is now - a fact you seem to have repeated trouble accepting.

what exactly are you trying to argue? If you think Rudd should keep Gillards date, you are an idiot.

I could also claim that Abbott, having taken over from Turnbull, should uphold all of Turnbulls promises. Something which we both know will never happen no matter how many lifetimes you wait.

Lobo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 5th, 2013 at 12:33pm: Lobo wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 8:28pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 10:24am: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:16pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:12pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:57pm: Quote: I have a lot of business contacts and the major discusion point among them is to get this damned election done and dusted because business is suffering by the indecision just as ever election campaign does. WTF difference does it make to them when the election is held?  Please explain, melielongtime. if you were ever in business esp small business you would know that everytime an election is called, business slows down. Every time.  I dont know why, but that doesnt stop it from being true. Well, I guess owning a legal practice is being in 'small business,' and I'm certain that owning and operating Cabs also is in 'small business.'  All I've ever seen is the usual seasonal cycles. I did say that some industries are immune to the election-slowdown.  Industries that operate on anything like discretionary expenditure like retail or any services that can be delayed.  If you do criminal law then they are going to need a lawyer regardless to the election.  But you might forgo that new car or that training or a new TV for a few months or longer. But you wont put off getting your drains unclogged for example. In 40-odd years I never experienced an 'election-slowdown'. EOFY......Yes. Good time to carry out maintenance. Run down to Christmas shutdown....Yes. 'Nother good time for maintenance. Never had an 'election-slowdown'. :) what industry does your business operate in?  I never said it was across the board, but it is quite genuine in sectors with  disctretionary purchases. Manufacturing.... Not mine any more, son took over ten years ago. And you are the only one I have seen/heard refer to an "election-slowdown". Asked the lad what one was, and he hadn't heard of it either. He's off to a dinner tonight and is going to poll the attendees to see how many have heard of it. :)

Result of poll, longy....

Not one person at the dinner has ever heard of an "election-slowdown".
Owners, managers, accountants, from 100+ down to 2-man (woman) operations.

Guess you might have coined a new phrase, longy.....

:)

Maybe the slow down hapens when people need time off work to post on the internet about the upcoming election

Verge wrote on Jul 7^th, 2013 at 7:52pm:

Maybe the slow down hapens when people need time off work to post on the internet about the upcoming election

Could have a point there, verge....

Though in longy's case, that's a 'gimme'......

;)