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Message started by cods on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:47am

Title: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by cods on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:47am
A DAUGHTER repeatedly violently raped by her own father from the age of nine summons the courage to tell police what he did to her. He is let off by a NSW judge with a good behaviour bond as long as he attends a treatment program for incestuous paedophiles.

A boy born to a surrogate mother in Russia and bought for $8000 by the sperm donor and his Australian partner for their sexual gratification is subjected to vile abuse for six years from infancy.

A little boy constantly raped by the late serial paedophile priest Dennis McAlinden between the ages of five and nine tells his parish priest in Singleton about the rapes during his first confession.

He is given penance "apparently for his sin in being abused by that priest," says Julia Lonergan, SC, counsel assisting the NSW commission into child sexual abuse in the Hunter Valley's Catholic Church.

These are three stories of paedophile atrocities which appeared in this newspaper this week. There are countless others which haven't.

While the community regards paedophilia as the most heinous crime, it seems authorities do not, whether church leaders who allowed paedophiles free rein, or courts which fail to jail them.

Solicitor Greg Walsh was drafted in late by supporters of the 19-year-old woman referred to earlier, to try to force an appeal of her father's lenient sentence.

"She expected justice. She was not listened to," he said yesterday.

He has written letters of complaint to the NSW Attorney-General Greg Smith and the Director of Public Prosecutions Lloyd Babb.

"Someone has dropped the ball," he says.

"She's the most delightful girl. She has suffered the worst kind of breach of trust and the psychological impact is horrendous.

"Now it's all been made worse because the justice system let her down.

"She's had a number of psychiatric admissions to hospital because of this terrible abuse and but for the dedicated support of psychiatrists, psychologists and sexual assault workers she wouldn't be on this planet."

Walsh believes the court gave "undue weight to the views of the mother that restoration should occur in the family and that the offender should not go to jail".

"Restoration" means keeping the family together. But the young woman wants nothing to do with her father - or her mother who was allegedly present in the marital bed during some abuse, although she claimed to

be unaware.

The mother is aware now

of what her husband did to their little girl because he pleaded guilty. Yet still she supports him.

"The paramount interests were those of this young victim, not the mother," Walsh said.

The father is required to have treatment at Cedar Cottage, run by the Department of Health, which uses "evocative therapy, cognitive behaviour therapy and psycho-education that draws on the belief that 'abusive behaviour is most likely to cease if the perpetrator accepts full responsibility for his actions'."

Well it's a bit late now. His children are grown.

The damage to his daughter is done, and now justice needs to be done.

At least the Attorney-General axed Cedar Cottage last September.

"The community rightly expects those who engage in child sex assault to receive a custodial sentence," he wrote in a letter to Walsh last week. The DPP is yet to respond.

The problem is that this paedophile father was originally sentenced before September. But he was sentenced again on April 4 this year on additional related charges to which he pleaded guilty. That was the opportunity to give him serious jail time.

Serious jail time is what was delivered to American-Australian Mark Newton, 42, in a court in Indiana, USA.

He was sentenced to 40 years for the sexual abuse of the now eight-year-old boy he and his partner Peter Truong adopted from a Russian surrogate mother. (Truong has pleaded guilty and is awaiting sentencing in New Zealand.)

They were accused of making hardcore child porn with the little blonde boy for an international paedophile ring, The Boy Lovers network.

The boy, who had an Australian accent at age five, was brainwashed into believing the abuse was normal.

In a story for ABC radio in Cairns two years ago titled "Two dads are better than one putting gender on the agenda", the paedophiles and the boy are interviewed about their idyllic family life.

The story was taken offline yesterday but it was chilling.

The men complain about the obstacles which "homophobic" authorities put in their path, such as the two-year wait for a visa to bring the baby to Australia.

When they arrived, "we were held up for a couple of hours," by Customs, said Truong. "If one of us had been a woman we wouldn't have had the same suspicions or concerns."

Police were sent to their Cairns home to investigate. "They wanted to see the situation was right, that we had bottle sterilisers ... everything set up properly for raising a child," said Truong. "They didn't really tell us what their concerns were."

The reporter asked: "Do you think there was a suspicion, you are two guys, , there must be a paedophilic thing going on here?"

Newton answers, coolly: "Absolutely, absolutely, I am sure that was completely the case."

It was a missed opportunity to rescue the child.

In 2011, after police raided their home over connections to a child porn ring, the men complained to the media again of discrimination.

The boy is now reportedly in the care of extended family.

The normal person recoils in horror from these stories.

miranda devine.DT

Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by bobbythebat1 on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:53am
Hang em and hang em high.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc

Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by bogarde73 on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:56am
It's appalling cods and it goes on & on. There are men who unfortunately are animals and there are women who defend them.
Not only this, but what about the other kinds of criminals whom we constatly see being too leneiently dealt with because of 1. bleeding heart attitudes and 2. the cost of building more prisons.

Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:58am




Thanks to our 'learned' judges and their powerful supporters, Australia is a paedophiles paradise, even if you do get caught, you won't be facing any real punishment, if any at all.


Wouldn't mind seeing these sh1theads being held accountable for their decisions, like the rest of us are.  >:(



Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by bobbythebat1 on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:00am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 10:58am:
Thanks to our 'learned' judges and their powerful supporters, Australia is a paedophiles paradise, even if you do get caught, you won't be facing any real punishment, if any at all.


Wouldn't mind seeing these sh1theads being held accountable for their decisions, like the rest of us are.  >:(



Very true BigOl,
when they go to prison they get a separate area because the
other prisoners would kill them.

Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by cods on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:06am
[quote author=bigol64 link=1372812475/3#3 date=1372813113]



Thanks to our 'learned' judges and their powerful supporters, Australia is a paedophiles paradise, even if you do get caught, you won't be facing any real punishment, if any at all.


Wouldn't mind seeing these sh1theads being held accountable for their decisions, like the rest of us are.  >:(




one of the things I have always said. is


Laws are made by men with men in mind..

and for years I have not seen one thing to change my mind...look at judges dont tell me they are all innocents wouldnt even think of it I am sure...

why would you let a father off of this... he has broken every rule in the book of parenting..

the only thing worse is murder and then they only get a slap if that...

to say I am over it is putting it mildly surely there is a lobby group out there that gives a poo about our kids... I so want to do something..sitting here complaining  isnt enough.... how about at least 10 years mandatory and then they have top go through every effort to change before release..


why would you want to abuse a child?????
do the courts really believe this desire will go away when their own children are n o longer available these people are sick real sick they have no place in the  society that they have thumbed their noses at.

Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by Ubermensch on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:39am

cods wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:06am:
Laws are made by men with men in mind..

and for years I have not seen one thing to change my mind...look at judges dont tell me they are all innocents wouldnt even think of it I am sure...


It's not a male thing.
The law was enforced much more brutally in the past, and they were all written by men. Today's soft approach has more to do with the feminised movements since the 1960s.


Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:00pm
I will stop being so offensive.

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Oh noes, maybe I shouldn't have said that as freediver might punish me for getting out of line  ::)  :D :D

Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by PZ547 on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 5:10pm
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  :o :o

Oh noes, maybe I shouldn't have said that as freediver might punish me for getting out of line  ::)  :D :D[/quote]





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Your post implies a very sick mind

Disturbing

Hope all who visit or frequent this forum, plus the mods if there are any, take note of what you've written

Via your above post, you have rendered anything you have written in the past and anything you might write in the future as bereft of any redeeming qualities


Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by PZ547 on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 5:12pm

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:39am:

cods wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 11:06am:
Laws are made by men with men in mind..

and for years I have not seen one thing to change my mind...look at judges dont tell me they are all innocents wouldnt even think of it I am sure...


It's not a male thing.
The law was enforced much more brutally in the past, and they were all written by men. Today's soft approach has more to do with the feminised movements since the 1960s.




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BS ! 

The laws of the past might have been written by males of the past, but clearly, the males of the past were in possession of infinitely greater morality than the majority of males today


Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by PZ547 on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 5:17pm
Paedophilia, misogyny, corruption are the province overwhelmingly -- of males

Of males -- who don't seem to grasp they are modified females.  Who don't want to acknowledge their wrinkly little organ is in fact a modified, prolapsed uterus

Males, who are jealous of the female

Males, who are angry because they don't feel like men.  Who know, subconsciously, that they are second-rate, modified females.  Who rape and despoil in attempts to feel like real men (which is an oxymoron, because they're merely hybridised women) and in order to vent their jealousy and pointlessness

Won't be long before a few men are kept in zoos.  And history will demonstrate WHY they became redundant and why they HAD to become redundant

All that of course, will coincide with a utopian world of peace, populated by women and children and a very few token males

Men are no longer necessary

They've outlived their purpose

The world will decide it cannot afford to let men roam free.  Hence the zoos

Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by The Grappler on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:18pm
Utter rubbsiish so far.  The biggest problem with the courts is that they have no dedication to truth or justice in any way, see themselves as part of some thin blue line rather than the mandated Thick Black Line of Law, and are more interested in the chicanery of 'legal argument' and so forth, while figuring out the best way to remove dollars from the pockets of the ordinary person.

Anyone who has ever had anything to do with courts in this country knows they are just the greatest sort of legitimised thieves in the country.

As for the ranter above - a minimum of 36% of sexual assaults againnst children are by women - and that is the reported figure - I say it's much higher.  And children in the care of their mother and her 'new lion in the pride' are 7-8 times more likely to be abused, injured, neglected and/or killed.

Just because some guy posts a thing here citing men as the sole perpetrators of crimes he cites, does not mean they are the only ones by any stretch of the imagination - nor does it mean that all men are like that (unless they are the thieves called magistrates and judges, that is).

Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by Peter Freedman on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:02am
Isn't there something ironic about agreeing an individual is sick, but complaining because he is sent for treatment?

Title: Re: I have lost faith in our courts.
Post by ian on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:39am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:18pm:
Utter rubbsiish so far.  The biggest problem with the courts is that they have no dedication to truth or justice in any way, see themselves as part of some thin blue line rather than the mandated Thick Black Line of Law, and are more interested in the chicanery of 'legal argument' and so forth, while figuring out the best way to remove dollars from the pockets of the ordinary person.

Anyone who has ever had anything to do with courts in this country knows they are just the greatest sort of legitimised thieves in the country.

As for the ranter above - a minimum of 36% of sexual assaults againnst children are by women - and that is the reported figure - I say it's much higher.  And children in the care of their mother and her 'new lion in the pride' are 7-8 times more likely to be abused, injured, neglected and/or killed.

Just because some guy posts a thing here citing men as the sole perpetrators of crimes he cites, does not mean they are the only ones by any stretch of the imagination - nor does it mean that all men are like that (unless they are the thieves called magistrates and judges, that is).

youa re full of it. most of these crimes, 99 percent are committed by males. Why, I dont know but thats just the way it is.

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