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Message started by alevine on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:27pm

Title: The other side of Rudd?
Post by alevine on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:27pm

Quote:
Kevin Rudd is a man of surprises.
Shortly before the third anniversary of his famous apology to indigenous Australians, he received word an Aboriginal woman he knew named ''Nana'' Lorna Fejo was gravely ill.
He'd first met Nana in early 2008 - a week before penning the landmark oration of his first term as prime minister.

Kevin Rudd: a man of surprises. Photo: Jay Cronan
He was now foreign minister, and a large framed photo of him with Nana adorned the wall of his office from that historic day. They'd last caught up in person, privately, on the second anniversary.
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From his Blackberry, Rudd dialled her Darwin home. ''Hello Nana,'' he said. ''It's Kevin. I hear you're unwell.''
From across his desk, I heard Nana's loud and joyful response. Heaven knows what her reaction was to the flowers he sent afterwards.
As he wished Nana best for her recovery, I recall her parting plea: ''Please come back as prime minister.'' Two years on, Nana is still with us and now has her wish.
In his second prime ministership, Rudd's character has been seized on as an issue.
The Coalition has credible witnesses to bolster its attacks; the spliced words spoken by Labor ministers early last year.
Who could be more credible than politicians who knew him and worked with him? How about someone who knew him but doesn't have a political axe to grind?
For an enthralling year and a half when he was foreign minister, I saw Rudd at close quarters. I worked with him up to 15 hours a day. While I don't claim he's the messiah, the attack ads are just wrong. Australians ought to know the man for his strengths as well as his faults before we all vote. So here's the Kevin Rudd I know.
A workaholic? Absolutely. He has a greater capacity - and energy - for work than anyone I've known. But he's not a slave-driver. He made sure every one of his staff carved out proper time for their personal lives. He extended to us, and our loved ones, extraordinary generosity, hospitality, and kindness.
Consultative? I just don't get the claims he did not consult. His modus operandi was engagement and dialogue with every adviser from his team. He regularly talked with bureaucrats from government departments, with leaders from business and civil society. Policy wisdom for Rudd also resided with ''the people''. From a student on a university campus to a mother in a supermarket aisle, he listened attentively, often scribbling down notes.
Disorganised and chaotic? Not even close. Sound planning and strategic co-ordination was the order of each work day, though occasionally that was thrown by an earthquake rocking Japan or New Zealand, or the sudden tectonic shift of the Arab Spring.
An ego? You bet. Name me a successful person who hasn't got self-belief. For Rudd, it is his belief he can help frame a better tomorrow for Australians. He rightly believes our nation's bright future rests on the strength and depth of our connectedness to the world.
I saw such belief win the respect of many leaders behind closed doors, including on the day Ban Ki-moon visited Rudd at home.
Self-interested? Rudd's only interests were the needs of others, and particularly those living on the margins. Far from the cameras, and between a busy work schedule, it was edifying to see him carve out time to provide care and comfort to those who have no home. I saw this sort of encounter many times.
I vividly remember seeing him in Brisbane during the Queensland floods. As Rudd walked into a ruined home, standing alone and dazed in her lounge room was a lady named Patricia. She collapsed into his arms, sobbing uncontrollably. He held Patricia tight. It was a graceful, tender moment.
We are who we are when no one is watching. When Australians were not watching these past few years, I saw Rudd's character and dedication to improving their lives.
So often, I witnessed the unreported Rudd. That included one of his many meetings with unemployed middle-aged men around the country seeking job guidance from a certain charity. They were often surprised to find themselves sitting in a room alone with the former PM, who could reassure them first-hand that only a lucky few go through life without losing their job.
Time and distance allow me to share an authentic perspective - some reassurance to the public who have never lost the belief that he is a good man who is at the top to help those who have always been far removed from the commanding heights.
Daniel Street is a former international aid adviser to Kevin Rudd.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/listening-caring-rudd-has-always-been-here-to-help-20130708-2pm8u.html#ixzz2YWUqHH9r


Let the "Bias" shrills and bullcrap yelling commence :)

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by alevine on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:29pm
STOP THE BOATS!!!!!!!
AX THE TAX!

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by Dnarever on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:31pm
The other side of Rudd?

For those who don't want to walk around him and have a look for yourself.

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by adelcrow on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:34pm
But does he take a  film crew everytime he shakes a blackfellas hand?
Coz Mr Abbott is winning that game hand down  ;D

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by alevine on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:39pm

adelcrow wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:34pm:
But does he take a  film crew everytime he shakes a blackfellas hand?
Coz Mr Abbott is winning that game hand down  ;D

Whilst I would agree with you adlecrow that Tony pampers to the media, just like all politicans do, the one thing I think Tony is actually genuine about is reconciliation and improving indigenous relations.

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by Socrates on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:48pm
A new KRUDD......haven't we heard this claptrap before....a new Juliar....a new Kevvy and it goes on and on.......and on!

This is the "other side" of KRUDD.....
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Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by Grendel on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:53pm
Rudd and the aborigines  ::)

Give me a break there is no other side he uses things and people for his own aggrandizement.

Abbott spends time each year living on the land with aboriginals helping them in real ways and gaining understanding of their problems and lives from the coalface so to speak.  He doesn't brag about it or big note himself.

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by alevine on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:53pm

Socrates wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:48pm:
A new KRUDD......haven't we heard this claptrap before....a new Juliar....a new Kevvy and it goes on and on.......and on!

This is the "other side" of KRUDD.....

and here comes the first one.

Who's next?

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by adelcrow on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:55pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:39pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:34pm:
But does he take a  film crew everytime he shakes a blackfellas hand?
Coz Mr Abbott is winning that game hand down  ;D

Whilst I would agree with you adlecrow that Tony pampers to the media, just like all politicans do, the one thing I think Tony is actually genuine about is reconciliation and improving indigenous relations.


As long as he has a film crew with him

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by Grendel on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:58pm
You guys are having a lend of yourselves...  the media groupie here is Rudd...  he wins hands down ask anyone in the media  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by alevine on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:06pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:58pm:
You guys are having a lend of yourselves...  the media groupie here is Rudd...  he wins hands down ask anyone in the media  ;D ;D ;D


Aha.


http://theshovelnews.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/tony-abbott-hat.jpg?w=300&h=193


Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by Aussie on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:06pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:53pm:
Rudd and the aborigines  ::)

Give me a break there is no other side he uses things and people for his own aggrandizement.

Abbott spends time each year living on the land with aboriginals helping them in real ways and gaining understanding of their problems and lives from the coalface so to speak.  He doesn't brag about it or big note himself.


How do you know about it then?

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:10pm
So one international aid advisor has a high opinion of Rudd.  So what?  Everything he says about Rudd is diametrically opposite to what every other person who has worked with him says.

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by alevine on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:13pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:10pm:
So one international aid advisor has a high opinion of Rudd.  So what?  Everything he says about Rudd is diametrically opposite to what every other person who has worked with him says.

Politicians. It is a fair point to compare  a staffer vs a politician and realise where which one may be biased in their view. And we haven't heard from ALL OF RUDD"s staffers. Or have we?\

Fact is, all of this opinion of Rudd has come off the back of him losing in 2010 and from the words of the victors of the time, Juliar, Swan and their backers.  Who is to say that the victors didn't simply re-write history, and in fact it was Gillard's ambitions that got the better of her and she took her chance when she had it?

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by Grendel on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:56pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:53pm:
Rudd and the aborigines  ::)

Give me a break there is no other side he uses things and people for his own aggrandizement.

Abbott spends time each year living on the land with aboriginals helping them in real ways and gaining understanding of their problems and lives from the coalface so to speak.  He doesn't brag about it or big note himself.



You lot are still having a lend of yourselves anyone not being a rusted on dolt would acknowledge the facts.

You do yourself no credibility denying the truth.

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by alevine on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:59pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 3:53pm:
Rudd and the aborigines  ::)

Give me a break there is no other side he uses things and people for his own aggrandizement.

Abbott spends time each year living on the land with aboriginals helping them in real ways and gaining understanding of their problems and lives from the coalface so to speak.  He doesn't brag about it or big note himself.



You lot are still having a lend of yourselves anyone not being a rusted on dolt would acknowledge the facts.

You do yourself no credibility denying the truth.

You have a really poor way of trying to assert your views as facts. 

Instead of just saying "no credibility denying the truth" why don't you actually explain THROUGH PRIMARY SOURCES how you know Tony helps aborigines in real ways without bragging about it or big noting himself.

I tend to agree, but I'm really sick of this style of debate where you simply go back to "Oh you're denying the truth" without providing your source for the truth.

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by Neferti on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:05pm
Criminals and Psychopaths appear normal   ................

http://www.news.com.au/business/worklife/fivepoint-checklist-to-spotting-office-psychopaths/story-e6frfm9r-1226661576251

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:21pm
Nice article Alevine.

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by PZ547 on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:28pm
'The other side of Rudd'

implies but two sides


I would have bet money there are at least a dozen

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:32pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:10pm:
So one international aid advisor has a high opinion of Rudd.  So what?  Everything he says about Rudd is diametrically opposite to what every other person who has worked with him says.

Politicians. It is a fair point to compare  a staffer vs a politician and realise where which one may be biased in their view. And we haven't heard from ALL OF RUDD"s staffers. Or have we?\

Fact is, all of this opinion of Rudd has come off the back of him losing in 2010 and from the words of the victors of the time, Juliar, Swan and their backers.  Who is to say that the victors didn't simply re-write history, and in fact it was Gillard's ambitions that got the better of her and she took her chance when she had it?



seriously???  you now want to contend that the large numbers of people saying that Rudd is impossible to work with and a narcissist etc are all wrong and this one person is right???  There is virtually NO ONE in the ALP that is willing to say Rudd is a nice easy-going bloke. 

you were better at least working from a position that Rudd is disliked by his colleagues than trying to invent a new one.

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:34pm

PZ547 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:28pm:
'The other side of Rudd'

implies but two sides


I would have bet money there are at least a dozen


he rotates them according to who is talking to at the time.

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:38pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:34pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:28pm:
'The other side of Rudd'

implies but two sides


I would have bet money there are at least a dozen


he rotates them according to who is talking to at the time.


There would have to be a backside on all of them I would think.

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:41pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:10pm:
So one international aid advisor has a high opinion of Rudd.  So what?  Everything he says about Rudd is diametrically opposite to what every other person who has worked with him says.

Politicians. It is a fair point to compare  a staffer vs a politician and realise where which one may be biased in their view. And we haven't heard from ALL OF RUDD"s staffers. Or have we?\



Maybe you might ask the the female RAAF steward he abused because his idiot staffers forgot to order his special meal; she might have some insights into rudd and his behaviour.


You can always tell a lot about a person when they interact with wait staff and other service type professions.




Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by PZ547 on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:41pm
Giddy little swivel-head

Title: Re: The other side of Rudd?
Post by longweekend58 on Jul 10th, 2013 at 10:24am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 9th, 2013 at 4:10pm:
So one international aid advisor has a high opinion of Rudd.  So what?  Everything he says about Rudd is diametrically opposite to what every other person who has worked with him says.

Politicians. It is a fair point to compare  a staffer vs a politician and realise where which one may be biased in their view. And we haven't heard from ALL OF RUDD"s staffers. Or have we?\



Maybe you might ask the the female RAAF steward he abused because his idiot staffers forgot to order his special meal; she might have some insights into rudd and his behaviour.


You can always tell a lot about a person when they interact with wait staff and other service type professions.


very true.  people who treat service staff badly revela a great deal about their own character and it is mostly BAD.

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