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Message started by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:01am

Title: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:01am
Greens pledge to help farmers save energy

THE Australian Greens have strengthened their grab for the rural vote at this year's federal election, pledging $100 million in grants for farmers to save electricity and install solar and wind power.

Greens leader Christine Milne will release the Greens' new farm energy policy in a speech to the NSW Farmers annual conference in Sydney today, building on her claim that the Greens are the political party most in tune with the interests of farmers and regional Australia.

Senator Milne said yesterday the $100m farm energy program would become a policy priority pushed by the Greens after this year's federal election, regardless of who wins power.

She claimed only the Greens were prepared to help farmers switch to cleaner energy sources and cut their power bills.

"That's because Tony Abbott doesn't believe in climate change, and Kevin Rudd has to find billions to fund his backflip on carbon pricing," she said.

Farmers in the dairy, horticulture, irrigated cropping and intensive piggery and poultry industries often have sky-high power bills, as they rely on electricity to cool fruit and vegetable storage sheds, power irrigation pumps, chill and sterilise milk vats, drive milking machines and heat laying and pig sheds. "These farmers have high energy usage and need additional help on the farm to upgrade their equipment to save money and become more efficient," Senator Milne said.

"The Greens understand that and recognise the potential for renewable energy to help farmers lower their costs and increase their business sustainability."

Senator Milne said the grants would be open to food producers and farmers as an extension of the existing and successful Clean Technology, Food and Foundry Grants program, funded through government low-carbon and climate change initiatives but restricted to manufacturers and food processors.

Farmers must be able to demonstrate high-energy usage and the ability to upgrade equipment to improve energy efficiency, or to install renewable energy systems such as wind turbines or solar panels to run their power-intensive operations, to qualify for the Greens' grants.

Senator Milne said Australia's agricultural sector was expected to be one of the hardest hit by climate change.

"Government assistance to increase the resilience of the sector and Australia's food security by improving overall sustainability by targeting improved energy efficiency, water use efficiency and increased deployment of renewable energy is in the public interest," she said.

"Switching to renewable energy and increasing energy efficiency also builds Australia's reputation for clean, green and high quality food."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/greens-pledge-to-help-farmers-save-energy/story-e6frg6xf-1226679846791

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:53am
what about the poor people in the cities greeny?? cant be bothered with them I guess no votes there..$100 million... should go far...

wheres it coming from.. out of greenies taxes I bet?

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by skippy. on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:57am

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:53am:
what about the poor people in the cities greeny?? cant be bothered with them I guess no votes there..$100 million... should go far...

wheres it coming from.. out of greenies taxes I bet?

You been living under a rock? People in the cities have had sh it loads of handouts for solar, just drive around any city and look at the panels on roofs.
This is a good idea, I'm not surprised the loony right are bagging it. ::)

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:59am
I really wish people would stop using the term, 'Government assistance' when it is clearly 'Tax Payer assistance'.

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:01am

skippy. wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:57am:

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:53am:
what about the poor people in the cities greeny?? cant be bothered with them I guess no votes there..$100 million... should go far...

wheres it coming from.. out of greenies taxes I bet?

You been living under a rock? People in the cities have had sh it loads of handouts for solar, just drive around any city and look at the panels on roofs.
This is a good idea, I'm not surprised the loony right are bagging it. ::)

you talking about the solar panels subsided by those who rent and don't and cant have solar panels?

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:04am

skippy. wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:57am:

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:53am:
what about the poor people in the cities greeny?? cant be bothered with them I guess no votes there..$100 million... should go far...

wheres it coming from.. out of greenies taxes I bet?

You been living under a rock? People in the cities have had sh it loads of handouts for solar, just drive around any city and look at the panels on roofs.
This is a good idea, I'm not surprised the loony right are bagging it. ::)




no i havent forgotten again it was for the RICH.. you seem to have forgotten..

it helped those who could afford it anyway..

which was nice I am not knocking that at all.

but dont forget.. those that give can also take away..

and as already been pointed out..

IT ISNT THE GREENS THAT WILL BE FINDING THAT MONEY...IT WILL BE ALL OF US...

like now we poor people who cannot afford panels on our roof.. are paying through our electricity bills.... and we always will be..

so you see its still the poor paying for the rich.,


SOMEONE HAS TO PAY SKIPPY...

BUGGER ALL IS FREE

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:07am

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:59am:
I really wish people would stop using the term, 'Government assistance' when it is clearly 'Tax Payer assistance'.





WE NEED LAWS THAT MAKE THESE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE PROMISES EXPLAIN THAT..

EVEN IF THEY CLAIM THE MINING TAX WILL PAY FOR IT.. IN THE END WE WILL.


isnt the farm being taken over by the Chinese.??? oh they will be pleased.

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:10am
I think I may take up marijuana growing.only need a few acres

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:31am

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:10am:
I think I may take up marijuana growing.only need a few acres

I tried that once but the police seem to have a problem with my indoor farming, so I had to give it away

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:36am

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:07am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:59am:
I really wish people would stop using the term, 'Government assistance' when it is clearly 'Tax Payer assistance'.





WE NEED LAWS THAT MAKE THESE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE PROMISES EXPLAIN THAT..

EVEN IF THEY CLAIM THE MINING TAX WILL PAY FOR IT.. IN THE END WE WILL.


isnt the farm being taken over by the Chinese.??? oh they will be pleased.



How is direct inaction funded?

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:36am

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:31am:

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:10am:
I think I may take up marijuana growing.only need a few acres

I tried that once but the police seem to have a problem with my indoor farming, so I had to give it away



they do spoil sports.. however if you grow big trees first like a pine forest.. and then the other... it wouldnt be seen from the sky.. thats what gives it away...I am thinking one crop would do it for me..LOL ;) ;) Im not greedy

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:37am

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:10am:
I think I may take up marijuana growing.only need a few acres



So you are crying poor and support the coalition who will increase the cost of living.

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:41am

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:36am:

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:07am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:59am:
I really wish people would stop using the term, 'Government assistance' when it is clearly 'Tax Payer assistance'.





WE NEED LAWS THAT MAKE THESE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE PROMISES EXPLAIN THAT..

EVEN IF THEY CLAIM THE MINING TAX WILL PAY FOR IT.. IN THE END WE WILL.


isnt the farm being taken over by the Chinese.??? oh they will be pleased.



How is direct inaction funded?




greeny the world is not going to end tomorrow... BELIEVE ME it wont so stop PANICKING..


as I have said many times.. the way everything in the world is changing and at the rate its changing..  it wont be long before we have found the answer to all these problems you come up with..havent you noticed everything is changing almost daily..

would you really like to be dependent on a life saving machine...only to have it fail when the sun didnt shine?? or the wind didnt blow for days..or even weeks..

come on relax... it wont happen over night but it will happen..be positive for a change.. you are so negative.

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:42am

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:37am:

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:10am:
I think I may take up marijuana growing.only need a few acres



So you are crying poor and support the coalition who will increase the cost of living.




well what else is their to do at my age??? :P :P

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:44am

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:01am:
Greens pledge to help farmers save energy

THE Australian Greens have strengthened their grab for the rural vote at this year's federal election, pledging $100 million in grants for farmers to save electricity and install solar and wind power.

Greens leader Christine Milne will release the Greens' new farm energy policy in a speech to the NSW Farmers annual conference in Sydney today, building on her claim that the Greens are the political party most in tune with the interests of farmers and regional Australia.



Only the greens would think that the major energy cost to farming is running the beer fridge.  ;D


Here is a hint morons, tractors and farm machinery don't run on electricity and consumes vast amount of expensive energy in the form of a liquid.

Can you guess what it is?




Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 9:09am

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:41am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:36am:

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:07am:

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:59am:
I really wish people would stop using the term, 'Government assistance' when it is clearly 'Tax Payer assistance'.





WE NEED LAWS THAT MAKE THESE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE PROMISES EXPLAIN THAT..

EVEN IF THEY CLAIM THE MINING TAX WILL PAY FOR IT.. IN THE END WE WILL.


isnt the farm being taken over by the Chinese.??? oh they will be pleased.



How is direct inaction funded?




greeny the world is not going to end tomorrow... BELIEVE ME it wont so stop PANICKING..


as I have said many times.. the way everything in the world is changing and at the rate its changing..  it wont be long before we have found the answer to all these problems you come up with..havent you noticed everything is changing almost daily..

would you really like to be dependent on a life saving machine...only to have it fail when the sun didnt shine?? or the wind didnt blow for days..or even weeks..

come on relax... it wont happen over night but it will happen..be positive for a change.. you are so negative.



So on one hand you agree with adaptation and on the other oppose it.

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 9:09am

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:42am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:37am:

cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:10am:
I think I may take up marijuana growing.only need a few acres



So you are crying poor and support the coalition who will increase the cost of living.




well what else is their to do at my age??? :P :P



I'll pay that one.

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 9:13am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:44am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:01am:
Greens pledge to help farmers save energy

THE Australian Greens have strengthened their grab for the rural vote at this year's federal election, pledging $100 million in grants for farmers to save electricity and install solar and wind power.

Greens leader Christine Milne will release the Greens' new farm energy policy in a speech to the NSW Farmers annual conference in Sydney today, building on her claim that the Greens are the political party most in tune with the interests of farmers and regional Australia.



Only the greens would think that the major energy cost to farming is running the beer fridge.  ;D


Here is a hint morons, tractors and farm machinery don't run on electricity and consumes vast amount of expensive energy in the form of a liquid.

Can you guess what it is?



So what are tractors and farm machinery used to produce.

What happens if this requires refrigeration ... wait for the ice wagon?


icewagon43.jpg (95 KB | 34 )

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:08am

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 9:13am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:44am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:01am:
Greens pledge to help farmers save energy

THE Australian Greens have strengthened their grab for the rural vote at this year's federal election, pledging $100 million in grants for farmers to save electricity and install solar and wind power.

Greens leader Christine Milne will release the Greens' new farm energy policy in a speech to the NSW Farmers annual conference in Sydney today, building on her claim that the Greens are the political party most in tune with the interests of farmers and regional Australia.



Only the greens would think that the major energy cost to farming is running the beer fridge.  ;D


Here is a hint morons, tractors and farm machinery don't run on electricity and consumes vast amount of expensive energy in the form of a liquid.

Can you guess what it is?



So what are tractors and farm machinery used to produce.

What happens if this requires refrigeration ... wait for the ice wagon?




Wheat .... no, that's not it

sorghum and other cereals  ......... no not that either

sugar ......... nooooo

bananas ........, wait a minute, nup


Sheep, ........ no they go out live

Cattle & pigs ....... no same for them



Found one, dairy, the greens are going to save the dairy industry by spending $100 mil on solar panels for their milk vats. I wish I had clappy hands emoticon.


Another brilliant plan by the parlimentry retards. Everyone give them a resounding round of applause for being just brilliant.  ;D



Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:54am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:08am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 9:13am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:44am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:01am:
Greens pledge to help farmers save energy

THE Australian Greens have strengthened their grab for the rural vote at this year's federal election, pledging $100 million in grants for farmers to save electricity and install solar and wind power.

Greens leader Christine Milne will release the Greens' new farm energy policy in a speech to the NSW Farmers annual conference in Sydney today, building on her claim that the Greens are the political party most in tune with the interests of farmers and regional Australia.



Only the greens would think that the major energy cost to farming is running the beer fridge.  ;D


Here is a hint morons, tractors and farm machinery don't run on electricity and consumes vast amount of expensive energy in the form of a liquid.

Can you guess what it is?



So what are tractors and farm machinery used to produce.

What happens if this requires refrigeration ... wait for the ice wagon?




Wheat .... no, that's not it

sorghum and other cereals  ......... no not that either

sugar ......... nooooo

bananas ........, wait a minute, nup


Sheep, ........ no they go out live

Cattle & pigs ....... no same for them



Found one, dairy, the greens are going to save the dairy industry by spending $100 mil on solar panels for their milk vats. I wish I had clappy hands emoticon.


Another brilliant plan by the parlimentry retards. Everyone give them a resounding round of applause for being just brilliant.  ;D



How about fruit and veg.

Or doesn't stralia grow that sort of stuff !

Australia's Food Security starts with keeping farming profitable.

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:05am

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:54am:
How about fruit and veg.

Or doesn't stralia grow that sort of stuff !

Australia's Food Security starts with keeping farming profitable.



Then the greens should deal with the highest energy cost for ALL farmers and not just a minor one fore a very few. Or are they so used to ONLY helping the smallest amount of people possible that they couldn't possibley consider solutions to the major issues.


Look it's just another stupid greens policy, which once again has not been intellegently thought through. No need to try and justfy this policy disaster.



Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:11am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:05am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:54am:
How about fruit and veg.

Or doesn't stralia grow that sort of stuff !

Australia's Food Security starts with keeping farming profitable.



Then the greens should deal with the highest energy cost for ALL farmers and not just a minor one fore a very few. Or are they so used to ONLY helping the smallest amount of people possible that they couldn't possibley consider solutions to the major issues.


Look it's just another stupid greens policy, which once again has not been intellegently thought through. No need to try and justfy this policy disaster.



Sorted

Greens plan to lower power bills by $250

HOUSEHOLD electricity costs could drop by up to $250 a year under a Greens plan to establish a new independent body to drive down energy use during peak periods.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/greens-plan-to-lower-power-bills-by-250/story-fn59niix-1226650235248


This saving flows through the economy, benefiting everyone.

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:38pm

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:05am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:54am:
How about fruit and veg.

Or doesn't stralia grow that sort of stuff !

Australia's Food Security starts with keeping farming profitable.



Then the greens should deal with the highest energy cost for ALL farmers and not just a minor one fore a very few. Or are they so used to ONLY helping the smallest amount of people possible that they couldn't possibley consider solutions to the major issues.


Look it's just another stupid greens policy, which once again has not been intellegently thought through. No need to try and justfy this policy disaster.



Sorted

Greens plan to lower power bills by $250

HOUSEHOLD electricity costs could drop by up to $250 a year under a Greens plan to establish a new independent body to drive down energy use during peak periods.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/greens-plan-to-lower-power-bills-by-250/story-fn59niix-1226650235248


This saving flows through the economy, benefiting everyone.



And how exactly does 'maybe' lowering household electricity costs with a greens magic marker help the energy costs of farmers. I can't see the corelation between electricity costs and deisel costs, they are not even the same energy state.


Granted I only did high school economics so I might not be able to see the magic working here.





Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:47pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:38pm:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:11am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:05am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:54am:
How about fruit and veg.

Or doesn't stralia grow that sort of stuff !

Australia's Food Security starts with keeping farming profitable.



Then the greens should deal with the highest energy cost for ALL farmers and not just a minor one fore a very few. Or are they so used to ONLY helping the smallest amount of people possible that they couldn't possibley consider solutions to the major issues.


Look it's just another stupid greens policy, which once again has not been intellegently thought through. No need to try and justfy this policy disaster.



Sorted

Greens plan to lower power bills by $250

HOUSEHOLD electricity costs could drop by up to $250 a year under a Greens plan to establish a new independent body to drive down energy use during peak periods.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/greens-plan-to-lower-power-bills-by-250/story-fn59niix-1226650235248


This saving flows through the economy, benefiting everyone.



And how exactly does 'maybe' lowering household electricity costs with a greens magic marker help the energy costs of farmers. I can't see the corelation between electricity costs and deisel costs, they are not even the same energy state.


Granted I only did high school economics so I might not be able to see the magic working here.



You asked about the higher energy costs for all farmer ... do farmers live in houses and use electricity?

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 20th, 2013 at 10:16am

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:47pm:
You asked about the higher energy costs for all farmer ... do farmers live in houses and use electricity?



I hope to god you don't believe that farmers live in houses in the city and commute to ther jobs on the farm, but it would explain that post.

Saving $250 a year in housing energy cost isn't going to help farms with a operational energy costs in the tens of thousands or do the greens believe that every little thing makes a difference, no matter how pathetic?


You need to give up while you're still behind and people are only just laughing at you and your greens party.  ;D



Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by rabbitoh07 on Jul 20th, 2013 at 10:30am

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:59am:
I really wish people would stop using the term, 'Government assistance' when it is clearly 'Tax Payer assistance'.

Good point

Perhaps Tony and co should start telling everyone that their "Direct Action" is actually "Tax Payer Funded Direct Action"

ie  a GREAT BIG CARBON TAX

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by John Smith on Jul 20th, 2013 at 11:24am

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:44am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:01am:
Greens pledge to help farmers save energy

THE Australian Greens have strengthened their grab for the rural vote at this year's federal election, pledging $100 million in grants for farmers to save electricity and install solar and wind power.

Greens leader Christine Milne will release the Greens' new farm energy policy in a speech to the NSW Farmers annual conference in Sydney today, building on her claim that the Greens are the political party most in tune with the interests of farmers and regional Australia.



Only the greens would think that the major energy cost to farming is running the beer fridge.  ;D


Here is a hint morons, tractors and farm machinery don't run on electricity and consumes vast amount of expensive energy in the form of a liquid.

Can you guess what it is?


haven't you heard of solar powered tractors? and on the really big farms they have solar powered helicopters !!!

Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 20th, 2013 at 11:35am

John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 11:24am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:44am:

____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:01am:
Greens pledge to help farmers save energy

THE Australian Greens have strengthened their grab for the rural vote at this year's federal election, pledging $100 million in grants for farmers to save electricity and install solar and wind power.

Greens leader Christine Milne will release the Greens' new farm energy policy in a speech to the NSW Farmers annual conference in Sydney today, building on her claim that the Greens are the political party most in tune with the interests of farmers and regional Australia.



Only the greens would think that the major energy cost to farming is running the beer fridge.  ;D


Here is a hint morons, tractors and farm machinery don't run on electricity and consumes vast amount of expensive energy in the form of a liquid.

Can you guess what it is?


haven't you heard of solar powered tractors? and on the really big farms they have solar powered helicopters !!!



Gotta get me a couple of those for the weekend hobby farm.  :)



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