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Title: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:01am
Greens pledge to help farmers save energy
THE Australian Greens have strengthened their grab for the rural vote at this year's federal election, pledging $100 million in grants for farmers to save electricity and install solar and wind power. Greens leader Christine Milne will release the Greens' new farm energy policy in a speech to the NSW Farmers annual conference in Sydney today, building on her claim that the Greens are the political party most in tune with the interests of farmers and regional Australia. Senator Milne said yesterday the $100m farm energy program would become a policy priority pushed by the Greens after this year's federal election, regardless of who wins power. She claimed only the Greens were prepared to help farmers switch to cleaner energy sources and cut their power bills. "That's because Tony Abbott doesn't believe in climate change, and Kevin Rudd has to find billions to fund his backflip on carbon pricing," she said. Farmers in the dairy, horticulture, irrigated cropping and intensive piggery and poultry industries often have sky-high power bills, as they rely on electricity to cool fruit and vegetable storage sheds, power irrigation pumps, chill and sterilise milk vats, drive milking machines and heat laying and pig sheds. "These farmers have high energy usage and need additional help on the farm to upgrade their equipment to save money and become more efficient," Senator Milne said. "The Greens understand that and recognise the potential for renewable energy to help farmers lower their costs and increase their business sustainability." Senator Milne said the grants would be open to food producers and farmers as an extension of the existing and successful Clean Technology, Food and Foundry Grants program, funded through government low-carbon and climate change initiatives but restricted to manufacturers and food processors. Farmers must be able to demonstrate high-energy usage and the ability to upgrade equipment to improve energy efficiency, or to install renewable energy systems such as wind turbines or solar panels to run their power-intensive operations, to qualify for the Greens' grants. Senator Milne said Australia's agricultural sector was expected to be one of the hardest hit by climate change. "Government assistance to increase the resilience of the sector and Australia's food security by improving overall sustainability by targeting improved energy efficiency, water use efficiency and increased deployment of renewable energy is in the public interest," she said. "Switching to renewable energy and increasing energy efficiency also builds Australia's reputation for clean, green and high quality food." http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/greens-pledge-to-help-farmers-save-energy/story-e6frg6xf-1226679846791 |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:53am
what about the poor people in the cities greeny?? cant be bothered with them I guess no votes there..$100 million... should go far...
wheres it coming from.. out of greenies taxes I bet? |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by skippy. on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:57am cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:53am:
You been living under a rock? People in the cities have had sh it loads of handouts for solar, just drive around any city and look at the panels on roofs. This is a good idea, I'm not surprised the loony right are bagging it. ::) |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:59am
I really wish people would stop using the term, 'Government assistance' when it is clearly 'Tax Payer assistance'.
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Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:01am skippy. wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:57am:
you talking about the solar panels subsided by those who rent and don't and cant have solar panels? |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:04am skippy. wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:57am:
no i havent forgotten again it was for the RICH.. you seem to have forgotten.. it helped those who could afford it anyway.. which was nice I am not knocking that at all. but dont forget.. those that give can also take away.. and as already been pointed out.. IT ISNT THE GREENS THAT WILL BE FINDING THAT MONEY...IT WILL BE ALL OF US... like now we poor people who cannot afford panels on our roof.. are paying through our electricity bills.... and we always will be.. so you see its still the poor paying for the rich., SOMEONE HAS TO PAY SKIPPY... BUGGER ALL IS FREE |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:07am BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:59am:
WE NEED LAWS THAT MAKE THESE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE PROMISES EXPLAIN THAT.. EVEN IF THEY CLAIM THE MINING TAX WILL PAY FOR IT.. IN THE END WE WILL. isnt the farm being taken over by the Chinese.??? oh they will be pleased. |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:10am
I think I may take up marijuana growing.only need a few acres
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Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:31am cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:10am:
I tried that once but the police seem to have a problem with my indoor farming, so I had to give it away |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:36am cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:07am:
How is direct inaction funded? |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:36am BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:31am:
they do spoil sports.. however if you grow big trees first like a pine forest.. and then the other... it wouldnt be seen from the sky.. thats what gives it away...I am thinking one crop would do it for me..LOL ;) ;) Im not greedy |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:37am cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:10am:
So you are crying poor and support the coalition who will increase the cost of living. |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:41am ____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:36am:
greeny the world is not going to end tomorrow... BELIEVE ME it wont so stop PANICKING.. as I have said many times.. the way everything in the world is changing and at the rate its changing.. it wont be long before we have found the answer to all these problems you come up with..havent you noticed everything is changing almost daily.. would you really like to be dependent on a life saving machine...only to have it fail when the sun didnt shine?? or the wind didnt blow for days..or even weeks.. come on relax... it wont happen over night but it will happen..be positive for a change.. you are so negative. |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by cods on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:42am ____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:37am:
well what else is their to do at my age??? :P :P |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by BigOl64 on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:44am ____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:01am:
Only the greens would think that the major energy cost to farming is running the beer fridge. ;D Here is a hint morons, tractors and farm machinery don't run on electricity and consumes vast amount of expensive energy in the form of a liquid. Can you guess what it is? |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 9:09am cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:41am:
So on one hand you agree with adaptation and on the other oppose it. |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 9:09am cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:42am:
I'll pay that one. |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 9:13am BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:44am:
So what are tractors and farm machinery used to produce. What happens if this requires refrigeration ... wait for the ice wagon? ![]() |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by BigOl64 on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:08am ____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 9:13am:
Wheat .... no, that's not it sorghum and other cereals ......... no not that either sugar ......... nooooo bananas ........, wait a minute, nup Sheep, ........ no they go out live Cattle & pigs ....... no same for them Found one, dairy, the greens are going to save the dairy industry by spending $100 mil on solar panels for their milk vats. I wish I had clappy hands emoticon. Another brilliant plan by the parlimentry retards. Everyone give them a resounding round of applause for being just brilliant. ;D |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:54am BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:08am:
How about fruit and veg. Or doesn't stralia grow that sort of stuff ! Australia's Food Security starts with keeping farming profitable. |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by BigOl64 on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:05am ____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 10:54am:
Then the greens should deal with the highest energy cost for ALL farmers and not just a minor one fore a very few. Or are they so used to ONLY helping the smallest amount of people possible that they couldn't possibley consider solutions to the major issues. Look it's just another stupid greens policy, which once again has not been intellegently thought through. No need to try and justfy this policy disaster. |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:11am BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:05am:
Sorted Greens plan to lower power bills by $250 HOUSEHOLD electricity costs could drop by up to $250 a year under a Greens plan to establish a new independent body to drive down energy use during peak periods. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/greens-plan-to-lower-power-bills-by-250/story-fn59niix-1226650235248 This saving flows through the economy, benefiting everyone. |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by BigOl64 on Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:38pm ____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 11:11am:
And how exactly does 'maybe' lowering household electricity costs with a greens magic marker help the energy costs of farmers. I can't see the corelation between electricity costs and deisel costs, they are not even the same energy state. Granted I only did high school economics so I might not be able to see the magic working here. |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by Greens_Win on Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:47pm BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:38pm:
You asked about the higher energy costs for all farmer ... do farmers live in houses and use electricity? |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by BigOl64 on Jul 20th, 2013 at 10:16am ____ wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 12:47pm:
I hope to god you don't believe that farmers live in houses in the city and commute to ther jobs on the farm, but it would explain that post. Saving $250 a year in housing energy cost isn't going to help farms with a operational energy costs in the tens of thousands or do the greens believe that every little thing makes a difference, no matter how pathetic? You need to give up while you're still behind and people are only just laughing at you and your greens party. ;D |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by rabbitoh07 on Jul 20th, 2013 at 10:30am BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 7:59am:
Good point Perhaps Tony and co should start telling everyone that their "Direct Action" is actually "Tax Payer Funded Direct Action" ie a GREAT BIG CARBON TAX |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by John Smith on Jul 20th, 2013 at 11:24am BigOl64 wrote on Jul 19th, 2013 at 8:44am:
haven't you heard of solar powered tractors? and on the really big farms they have solar powered helicopters !!! |
Title: Re: Greens' Farm Energy Policy Post by BigOl64 on Jul 20th, 2013 at 11:35am John Smith wrote on Jul 20th, 2013 at 11:24am:
Gotta get me a couple of those for the weekend hobby farm. :) |
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