http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/18083780/boat-arrivals-to-top-50-000-carr/

Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" and that the advertising blitz to promote its deal before an election was "outrageous".

"Mr Rudd said back in 2007 that government advertising just before an election is a 'cancer' and he wanted to stop it," he told Network Ten on Sunday.

"Well, the cancer is alive and well under Kevin Rudd."

Hard working Australians who worked all their lives paying taxes to now fund the lifestyle of these asylum seekers in PNG for the rest of their lives

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:20am:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/18083780/boat-arrivals-to-top-50-000-carr/ Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" and that the advertising blitz to promote its deal before an election was "outrageous". "Mr Rudd said back in 2007 that government advertising just before an election is a 'cancer' and he wanted to stop it," he told Network Ten on Sunday. "Well, the cancer is alive and well under Kevin Rudd."

FD should ban liars like you from posting here. The pertinent words
HOCKEY
ALLEGED
COULD
Lying moron. Smell the fear. ::) ::) ::)

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:20am:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/18083780/boat-arrivals-to-top-50-000-carr/ Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" and that the advertising blitz to promote its deal before an election was "outrageous". "Mr Rudd said back in 2007 that government advertising just before an election is a 'cancer' and he wanted to stop it," he told Network Ten on Sunday. "Well, the cancer is alive and well under Kevin Rudd."

Hahahahaha! Of course hockey is up there lying - they ahvent changed their tactics from gillard.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:22am:

Hard working Australians who worked all their lives paying taxes to now fund the lifestyle of these asylum seekers in PNG for the rest of their lives

I wonder if they'd get paid in AUS$ or PNG sea shells or whatever they use? You could live pretty well on a aussie dole payout in PNG. I doubt medicare would help them much. Probably a better than usual witch doctor.

skippy. wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:24am:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 11:20am: http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/18083780/boat-arrivals-to-top-50-000-carr/ Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" and that the advertising blitz to promote its deal before an election was "outrageous". "Mr Rudd said back in 2007 that government advertising just before an election is a 'cancer' and he wanted to stop it," he told Network Ten on Sunday. "Well, the cancer is alive and well under Kevin Rudd." FD should ban liars like you from posting here. The pertinent words HOCKEY ALLEGED COULD Lying moron. Smell the fear. ::) ::) ::)

Macca still thinks that if you tell a lie often enough then it becomes the truth.Have you noticed the amount of lies Macca tells seems to be growing?

Quote:

Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives"

Hockey is a liar.

scope wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:30am:

Macca still thinks that if you tell a lie often enough then it becomes the truth.Have you noticed the amount of lies Macca tells seems to be growing?

Everybody has noticed.


http://cf.chucklesnetwork.agj.co/items/7/3/1/6/you-smell-that-fear.jpg

If you just rocked up to PNG with no land , no house, no tribe, no job then what are you going to live on. I doubt they have much in the way os support systems for the needy in PNG. Of course Australia is going to have to support these resettled refugges.

Mr Hockey said..blah blah blah..what does Maqqa expect the Coalition who are all running scared to say about Labor policies?
Anyway..the people will stop coming so almost no one will end up in New Guinea

Big Dave wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:40am:

If you just rocked up to PNG with no land , no house, no tribe, no job then what are you going to live on. I doubt they have much in the way os support systems for the needy in PNG. Of course Australia is going to have to support these resettled refugges.

They'll have to get jobs, or starve, just like normal people. ::)

Big Dave wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:40am:

If you just rocked up to PNG with no land , no house, no tribe, no job then what are you going to live on. I doubt they have much in the way os support systems for the needy in PNG. Of course Australia is going to have to support these resettled refugges.

Nobody is saying there will be no support BUT that doesn't give Macca a license to lie in the thread topic.

Maybe Macca's first language is not English so that could be the reason for so many piss poor thread titles.

Seriously..how many reffos do the neo cons think will stay in New Guinea?
Im putting the number at...ZERO

adelcrow wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Seriously..how many reffos do the neo cons think will stay in New Guinea? Im putting the number at...ZERO

They have already said this will stop them, Afghans have already said they will no longer try. The loony right are angry they want to see babies heads smashed against rocks.

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:20am:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/18083780/boat-arrivals-to-top-50-000-carr/ Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" and that the advertising blitz to promote its deal before an election was "outrageous". "Mr Rudd said back in 2007 that government advertising just before an election is a 'cancer' and he wanted to stop it," he told Network Ten on Sunday. "Well, the cancer is alive and well under Kevin Rudd."

Pathetic, just pathetic. Another botched Labor policy. If these people are sent back they’ll get Medicare and Centrelink benefits for the rest of their llves.

SHAME LABOR SHAME.

The cancer is worse under Rudd.

I just hope Mr Abbott gets in and puts a stop to this.

skippy. wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 12:20pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 12:17pm: Seriously..how many reffos do the neo cons think will stay in New Guinea? Im putting the number at...ZERO They have already said this will stop them, Afghans have already said they will no longer try. The loony right are angry they want to see babies heads smashed against rocks.

Yes, but this will continue in the backward, tinted countries, Skippy.

Once they get their hands on our dole and health care payments they’ll never work again, mark my words.

Sure their wives and daughters are guaranteed to be raped and murdered by wandering rascal gangs but Im sure collecting the dole is more than enough incentive to stay in New Guinea  ;D
Yep..the neo cons are officially sh!tting themselves  ;D

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:20am:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/18083780/boat-arrivals-to-top-50-000-carr/ Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" and that the advertising blitz to promote its deal before an election was "outrageous". "Mr Rudd said back in 2007 that government advertising just before an election is a 'cancer' and he wanted to stop it," he told Network Ten on Sunday. "Well, the cancer is alive and well under Kevin Rudd."

Slow news day?

Hockey also alleged he could lose weight naturally. 

Big Dave wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:29am:

I wonder if they'd get paid in AUS$ or PNG sea shells or whatever they use? You could live pretty well on a aussie dole payout in PNG. I doubt medicare would help them much. Probably a better than usual witch doctor.

Good point. Social security would be cheaper in PNG than in Australia. Residential property would be 6 times cheaper. Average income is only US $2,300 (16 times smaller). I am sure many Papuans would be happy to share their homes with these newcomers if there aren't any extra homes available. Papuans are more generous and charitable than Australians. In the mean time, they could find a job and earn a living there.

we are all one big interconnected family of humanity, excluding any part of us from security and protection is irrational and unscientific..,, :)

scope wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:30am:

skippy. wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 11:24am: Maqqa wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 11:20am: http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/18083780/boat-arrivals-to-top-50-000-carr/ Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" and that the advertising blitz to promote its deal before an election was "outrageous". "Mr Rudd said back in 2007 that government advertising just before an election is a 'cancer' and he wanted to stop it," he told Network Ten on Sunday. "Well, the cancer is alive and well under Kevin Rudd." FD should ban liars like you from posting here. The pertinent words HOCKEY ALLEGED COULD Lying moron. Smell the fear. ::) ::) ::) Macca still thinks that if you tell a lie often enough then it becomes the truth.Have you noticed the amount of lies Macca tells seems to be growing?

I remember Rudd saying Climate Change was the greatest moral challenge and now he's gone into hiding

From 2009 to 2013 Labor have told you there would be a Budget Surplus - they think they lie to you enough and for long enough then a surplus might appear

So if you support Labor's tactics then you should support me when I use the same tactics

So if you do not condemn Labor for lying - then you have no reason to condemn me (given than I am lying)

With Afghan asylum seekers indicating they don't want to go to PNG, Hockey is trying to make the place sound as appealing as possible.

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:20am:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/18083780/boat-arrivals-to-top-50-000-carr/ Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" and that the advertising blitz to promote its deal before an election was "outrageous". "Mr Rudd said back in 2007 that government advertising just before an election is a 'cancer' and he wanted to stop it," he told Network Ten on Sunday. "Well, the cancer is alive and well under Kevin Rudd."

But if the policy works, and the boats stop, there will be no one to claim centrelink now will there.

The desperation is alive and well!

Quote:

So if you do not condemn Labor for lying - then you have no reason to condemn me (given than I am lying)

What sort of weird shite is that?  'He lied, so it's okay that I do as well.'

:D

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:23pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 11:20am: http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/18083780/boat-arrivals-to-top-50-000-carr/ Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" and that the advertising blitz to promote its deal before an election was "outrageous". "Mr Rudd said back in 2007 that government advertising just before an election is a 'cancer' and he wanted to stop it," he told Network Ten on Sunday. "Well, the cancer is alive and well under Kevin Rudd." But if the policy works, and the boats stop, there will be no one to claim centrelink now will there. The desperation is alive and well!

Labor also said there would be no carbon tax

Labor also said there would be a surplus in 2013

Aussie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:26pm:

Quote: So if you do not condemn Labor for lying - then you have no reason to condemn me (given than I am lying) What sort of weird shite is that?  'He lied, so it's okay that I do as well.' :D

where did I say it was ok

I said if you don't condemn the ALP for lying then you have no business in condemning me for lying

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 3:23pm: Maqqa wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 11:20am: http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/article/18083780/boat-arrivals-to-top-50-000-carr/ Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" and that the advertising blitz to promote its deal before an election was "outrageous". "Mr Rudd said back in 2007 that government advertising just before an election is a 'cancer' and he wanted to stop it," he told Network Ten on Sunday. "Well, the cancer is alive and well under Kevin Rudd." But if the policy works, and the boats stop, there will be no one to claim centrelink now will there. The desperation is alive and well! Labor also said there would be no carbon tax Labor also said there would be a surplus in 2013

Abbott said a carbon tax would be the best way to reduce carbon emissions
Abbott also said Rudd could never stop the boats
Abbott said he will always do what's best for the country( ;D ;D ;D)

your point?

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 3:26pm: Quote: So if you do not condemn Labor for lying - then you have no reason to condemn me (given than I am lying) What sort of weird shite is that?  'He lied, so it's okay that I do as well.' :D where did I say it was ok I said if you don't condemn the ALP for lying then you have no business in condemning me for lying

of course he does ...

labor is not putting up stupid comments on a forum he's writing on, you are. :D

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 3:26pm: Quote: So if you do not condemn Labor for lying - then you have no reason to condemn me (given than I am lying) What sort of weird shite is that?  'He lied, so it's okay that I do as well.' :D where did I say it was ok I said if you don't condemn the ALP for lying then you have no business in condemning me for lying

I condemn Labor for lying. In the strongest possible terms.

SHAME LABOR SHAME.

Typical.

corporate_whitey wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 1:11pm:

we are all one big interconnected family of humanity, excluding any part of us from security and protection is irrational and unscientific..,, :)

Nooooooooooooooooooooo..................... It's too expensive! We're going to go broke!!!!!!!!!! :o :(

we must collectivize to ensure our human righs security and protection and abolish private property...I will not live by the dictates of the totalitarian right and the 'market'... 8-)

From what Ive heard today the Libs are trying to convince asylum seekers to keep coming by boat to test Kevins new system.
Do we need any more evidence that they dont care about the asylum seekers or the Australian people.

adelcrow wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:54pm:

From what Ive heard today the Libs are trying to convince asylum seekers to keep coming by boat to test Kevins new system. Do we need any more evidence that they dont care about the asylum seekers or the Australian people.

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Big Dave wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:40am:

If you just rocked up to PNG with no land , no house, no tribe, no job then what are you going to live on. I doubt they have much in the way os support systems for the needy in PNG. Of course Australia is going to have to support these resettled refugges.

Perhaps they could get a people smuggler to take them to Indonesia....

Mmmm now theres a thought.....

Who owns a boat?

adelcrow wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:54pm:

From what Ive heard today the Libs are trying to convince asylum seekers to keep coming by boat to test Kevins new system. Do we need any more evidence that they dont care about the asylum seekers or the Australian people.

From what I've heard today Kevin Rudd is sending out communications telling everyone he's Abbott and they should keep coming to Australia ion leaky boats

PROTECTION AND SECURITY IS A HUMAN RIGHT, FREE THE REFUGEES, ABOLISH PRIVACY... 8-)

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:18pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 4:54pm: From what Ive heard today the Libs are trying to convince asylum seekers to keep coming by boat to test Kevins new system. Do we need any more evidence that they dont care about the asylum seekers or the Australian people. From what I've heard today Kevin Rudd is sending out communications telling everyone he's Abbott and they should keep coming to Australia ion leaky boats

When the asylum seekers here start dobbing in the people who got them here to collect the $200,000 reward there wont be any smugglers left  ;D
$200,000 will be a nice house deposit for a reffo family  :D

adelcrow wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 4:54pm:

From what Ive heard today the Libs are trying to convince asylum seekers to keep coming by boat to test Kevins new system. Do we need any more evidence that they dont care about the asylum seekers or the Australian people.

Yes. How odd. I saw Abbott give a short press conference.

We have Rudd telling the people smugglers not to bring the asylum seekers to Australia because they will never get to live here.

Then we have Abbott calling a press conference to tell the people smugglers that's not quite true, keep bringing them in, they can stay here after all.

He's deliberately trying to sabotage Rudd's new deal by blatantly encouraging people smugglers. Who cares so much about the poor souls who drown at sea? not Tony.

There will be few boats arrive once they know they're going to be sent to PNG and combined with the reward for the smugglers - it will slow the trade right down.

It's a strong deterrant - like the Pacific Solution. The right whingers have been braying for years for Abbott to revamp Howard's old policies. They should be happy even if Rudd did come up with the idea first.

mantra wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:32pm:

There will be few boats arrive once they know they're going to be sent to PNG and combined with the reward for the smugglers - it will slow the trade right down. It's a strong deterrant - like the Pacific Solution. The right whingers have been braying for years for Abbott to revamp Howard's old policies. They should be happy even if Rudd did come up with the idea first.

This isn’t the Pacific Solution at all. It’s residency in another country.

The Pacific Solution was a network of offshore prisons. This is resettlement.

Not only is it a humanitarian solution, it’s a disincentive - who wants to live in New Guinea?

This week, we’ll see.

I’ll put a grand down on no boats by Friday.

Big Dave wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:40am:

If you just rocked up to PNG with no land , no house, no tribe, no job then what are you going to live on. I doubt they have much in the way os support systems for the needy in PNG. Of course Australia is going to have to support these resettled refugges.

100% correct...

and yet some of the nincompoops on here like Skippy think that PNG will welcome these economic bludgers with open arms, take them in, build houses for them, give them welfare to live on, pay for all medical expenses, build new hospitals to care for them and pay for their funeral when they die…

like DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Australians will flip the bill for all of this and it’ll cost us more BILLIONS of dollars…. We already have the first boatload…

Afghans don’t pay their money up front and say they might not go…. The Iranians (who led the RIOT in Naru) foolishly pay their money up front… $8000 … and there are thousands of them waiting their turn… they say that they’ve already paid their money so they are coming….

Looks like they may get on a boat earlier if the afghans decide to go back home… we’d have to wait and see…

At the end of the day when they start finding out Australia will pay for their welfare etc for the rest of their lives it’ll be back up to 50,000 illegal economic bludgers Per annum living off the Australian people ..

Or


Turning Indonesian ships, that are Indonesian Flagged and who are crewed by Indonesians back to whence they came will do the same job...and this but won’t cost a cent!!!!… it is perfectly Legal for us to do no matter what “scare” campaign Labor are running against it…

Its not Rocker Surgery…

True Blue... wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 6:02pm:

Big Dave wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 11:40am: If you just rocked up to PNG with no land , no house, no tribe, no job then what are you going to live on. I doubt they have much in the way os support systems for the needy in PNG. Of course Australia is going to have to support these resettled refugges. 100% correct... and yet some of the nincompoops on here like Skippy think that PNG will welcome these economic bludgers with open arms, take them in, build houses for them, give them welfare to live on, pay for all medical expenses, build new hospitals to care for them and pay for their funeral when they die… like DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Australians will flip the bill for all of this and it’ll cost us more BILLIONS of dollars…. We already have the first boatload… Afghans don’t pay their money up front and say they might not go…. The Iranians (who led the RIOT in Naru) foolishly pay their money up front… $8000 … and there are thousands of them waiting their turn… they say that they’ve already paid their money so they are coming…. Looks like they may get on a boat earlier if the afghans decide to go back home… we’d have to wait and see… At the end of the day when they start finding out Australia will pay for their welfare etc for the rest of their lives it’ll be back up to 50,000 illegal economic bludgers Per annum living off the Australian people .. Or Turning Indonesian ships, that are Indonesian Flagged and who are crewed by Indonesians back to whence they came will do the same job...and this but won’t cost a cent!!!!… it is perfectly Legal for us to do no matter what “scare” campaign Labor are running against it… Its not Rocker Surgery…

The asylum seekers that will choose to live the rest of their lives on PNG will be pretty close to zero..99.99999999999% of them will opt to go home rather than end up living where their lives will be sh!t so there will be no cost to PNG.
In fact if the Libs decided to stop inviting people smugglers to test out the system the boats would stop tomorrow. Any more boats will be because of Abbott, Morrison and Hockey and their decision to play politics with peoples lives

True Blue... wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 6:02pm:

Big Dave wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 11:40am: If you just rocked up to PNG with no land , no house, no tribe, no job then what are you going to live on. I doubt they have much in the way os support systems for the needy in PNG. Of course Australia is going to have to support these resettled refugges. 100% correct... and yet some of the nincompoops on here like Skippy think that PNG will welcome these economic bludgers with open arms, take them in, build houses for them, give them welfare to live on, pay for all medical expenses, build new hospitals to care for them and pay for their funeral when they die… like DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Australians will flip the bill for all of this and it’ll cost us more BILLIONS of dollars…. We already have the first boatload… Afghans don’t pay their money up front and say they might not go…. The Iranians (who led the RIOT in Naru) foolishly pay their money up front… $8000 … and there are thousands of them waiting their turn… they say that they’ve already paid their money so they are coming…. Looks like they may get on a boat earlier if the afghans decide to go back home… we’d have to wait and see… At the end of the day when they start finding out Australia will pay for their welfare etc for the rest of their lives it’ll be back up to 50,000 illegal economic bludgers Per annum living off the Australian people .. Or Turning Indonesian ships, that are Indonesian Flagged and who are crewed by Indonesians back to whence they came will do the same job...and this but won’t cost a cent!!!!… it is perfectly Legal for us to do no matter what “scare” campaign Labor are running against it… Its not Rocker Surgery…

It seems beyond you Blue.  You have missed the whole point completely!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcml6qTRx71rxevt4o1_400.jpg

Rocker surgery is needed when your off your rocker  ;D

well for a start crow...

they'll have to build their new possessing Buildings and Housing to house them... maybe a Mess Hall.. phones so that they can rack up millions of dollars of phone calls back home.... a million dollars on smokes... the list goes on... it just doesn't stop...

then they'll end up in Australia anyways...

this is all smoke and mirrors by Kevin Kardashian..

and like I said... just turn the buggars back and if wont cost one extra cent...

do you guys even know how many boats Howard turned back before they stopped?

huh?

I do...

just 4 .............. WOW RIGHT!!  :o

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:40pm:

Not only is it a humanitarian solution, it’s a disincentive - who wants to live in New Guinea?

If they want to get to Australia from Papua New Guinea, they will need to pay an extra fee: you will need to give us your clothes and get there naked. You will then spend one year as a prostitute dancing around poles. If you're a man, we will force you to watch your wife get raped. Your children will have naked pictures of them uploaded onto the Internet. :D


True Blue... wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 6:02pm:

and yet some of the nincompoops on here like Skippy think that PNG will welcome these economic bludgers with open arms, take them in, build houses for them, give them welfare to live on, pay for all medical expenses, build new hospitals to care for them and pay for their funeral when they die…

Papuans are nice people. They aren't selfish, stingy and materialistic like us Australians. That's why their mean incomes are so low compared to our's. :D

If you put politics aside and look at this dispassionately; it could go two ways.

1. Rudd could have created an economic hell hole which will cost this Country untold billions on top of the 12 billion dollars Rudd has already cost us because he f....d up a boat policy that was truly working and...let 46,000 bludgers in on us.


Scenario 2

2. Rudd could have pulled off a genuinely clever bit of work. The last place on earth Country Shoppers would want to go to would be PNG, however for a genuine refugee it may well represent freedom.

The word will be well and truly out from everywhere from Indonesia to downtown Afghanistan etc.

WE will now see what a damper this move has.

There is a real possibility it could stem the tide.

Either way you look at it, Rudd is either fixing his first f.... up or creating a bigger one.

red baron wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:17pm:

If you put politics aside and look at this dispassionately; it could go two ways. 1. Rudd could have created an economic hell hole which will cost this Country untold billions on top of the 12 billion dollars Rudd has already cost us because he f....d up a boat policy that was truly working and...let 46,000 bludgers in on us. Scenario 2 2. Rudd could have pulled off a genuinely clever bit of work. The last place on earth Country Shoppers would want to go to would be PNG, however for a genuine refugee it may well represent freedom. The word will be well and truly out from everywhere from Indonesia to downtown Afghanistan etc. WE will now see what a damper this move has. There is a real possibility it could stem the tide. Either way you look at it, Rudd is either fixing his first f.... up or creating a bigger one.

Mr Baron, would you like another go at that post, looking at it dispassionately?

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Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives"

A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION
If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER

( ... even as the panic sets in, Joe was being careful with his words - choosing "could" - over "would")

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:36pm:

Quote: Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER ( ... even as the panic sets in, Joe was being careful with his words - choosing "could" - over "would")

You got a reference for that or like everyone else (who possesses brains) shouldn't you be waiting for the details?

If they get the full dole over there they will be living like kings and I cannot see the locals liking that too much.

As with everything Rudd, devil is in the detail and implementation and so far he has not got a good record.  Belay that, he has a shocking record.   

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:43pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 7:36pm: Quote: Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER ( ... even as the panic sets in, Joe was being careful with his words - choosing "could" - over "would") You got a reference for that or like everyone else (who possesses brains) shouldn't you be waiting for the details? If they get the full dole over there they will be living like kings and I cannot see the locals liking that too much. As with everything Rudd, devil is in the detail and implementation and so far he has not got a good record.  Belay that, he has a shocking record.

a reference for what? the fact that it's a baseless assumption? ... you just said we need to wait for the details ... or do you think Hockey got all the details ahead of everyone else?

adelcrow wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 6:28pm:

Rocker surgery is needed when your off your rocker  ;D

I thought that was when I rebuilt the top half of my car's motor....

;)

red baron wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:17pm:

If you put politics aside and look at this dispassionately; it could go two ways. 1. Rudd could have created an economic hell hole which will cost this Country untold billions on top of the 12 billion dollars Rudd has already cost us because he f....d up a boat policy that was truly working and...let 46,000 bludgers in on us. Scenario 2 2. Rudd could have pulled off a genuinely clever bit of work. The last place on earth Country Shoppers would want to go to would be PNG, however for a genuine refugee it may well represent freedom. The word will be well and truly out from everywhere from Indonesia to downtown Afghanistan etc. WE will now see what a damper this move has. There is a real possibility it could stem the tide. Either way you look at it, Rudd is either fixing his first f.... up or creating a bigger one.

Crikey!!
I'd hate to see how you would have worded that if you hadn't put politics aside and looked at this dispassionately......

;)

True Blue... wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:02pm:

do you guys even know how many boats Howard turned back before THEY stopped? huh? I do... just 4 .............. WOW RIGHT!!  :o

do you know how many ( ... Vietnamese) boats Hawke turned back before they stopped ?


Not a ONE, in nine years

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:45pm:

Datalife wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 7:43pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 7:36pm: Quote: Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER ( ... even as the panic sets in, Joe was being careful with his words - choosing "could" - over "would") You got a reference for that or like everyone else (who possesses brains) shouldn't you be waiting for the details? If they get the full dole over there they will be living like kings and I cannot see the locals liking that too much. As with everything Rudd, devil is in the detail and implementation and so far he has not got a good record.  Belay that, he has a shocking record.    a reference for what? the fact that it's a baseless assumption? ... you just said we need to wait for the details ... or do you think Hockey got all the details ahead of everyone else?

No dimwit, a reference to the assertion that those being resettled in PNG having no access to medicare or centrelink.

I cannot believe I just had to explain that to you.  You are dumber than I initially thought.

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:36pm:

Quote: Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER ( ... even as the panic sets in, Joe was being careful with his words - choosing "could" - over "would")

Not an 'assumption', Buzz!

An out and out LIE!!

Will be interesting to see how many times he repeats the lie, and how loud.

:)

Check out the self professed humanitarians supporting dumping thousands of desperate people onto an impoverished third world nation by a rich nation in order to win an election?

I thought your sell out price may have been slightly higher gents.

Shame.

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:43pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 7:36pm: Quote: Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER ( ... even as the panic sets in, Joe was being careful with his words - choosing "could" - over "would") You got a reference for that or like everyone else (who possesses brains) shouldn't you be waiting for the details? If they get the full dole over there ...

NO-ONE gets the dole - living outside of Australian territories
Once PROCESSED - and settled in New Guinea ( ... or rejected and sent packing) they are no longer Australia's responsibility

Karnal wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 5:40pm:

mantra wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 5:32pm: There will be few boats arrive once they know they're going to be sent to PNG and combined with the reward for the smugglers - it will slow the trade right down. It's a strong deterrant - like the Pacific Solution. The right whingers have been braying for years for Abbott to revamp Howard's old policies. They should be happy even if Rudd did come up with the idea first. This isn’t the Pacific Solution at all. It’s residency in another country. The Pacific Solution was a network of offshore prisons. This is resettlement. Not only is it a humanitarian solution, it’s a disincentive - who wants to live in New Guinea? This week, we’ll see. I’ll put a grand down on no boats by Friday.

I know it's not the Pacific Solution (my ambiguous wording),  but it should be just as effective. You might be right about the boats stopping. PNG is definitely a place no-one would go to willingly for resettlement.

As our refugee intake has now increased to 20 or 25,000 - staying in a camp in Indonesia waiting in line to be brought here safely will look like a good alternative.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:05pm:

Check out the self professed humanitarians supporting dumping thousands of desperate people onto an impoverished third world nation by a rich nation in order to win an election? I thought your sell out price may have been slightly higher gents. Shame.

The government has given Indonesia a lot of money for the upkeep of their refugee camps. They are at least safe there until they get a place here.

People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink

#####

Yes, and will get PNG citizenship, then simply waltz into Australia.

Another trick from "ME TOO" Rudd.

This stupid scheme will end up like all his other ones, a dismal failure.
It's only for 12 months...until after the election.

After 12 months PNG will likely say truthfully that it's been a disaster and cancel it.
And the boats will poor in again...100,000 asylum seekers in his first term.
Well maybe 90,000...given the delay in the first half of next year.

bambu wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:33pm:

People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink ##### Yes, and will get PNG citizenship, then simply waltz into Australia. Another trick from "ME TOO" Rudd. This stupid scheme will end up like all his other ones, a dismal failure. It's only for 12 months...until after the election. After 12 months PNG will likely say truthfully that it's been a disaster and cancel it. And the boats will poor in again...100,000 asylum seekers in his first term. Well maybe 90,000...given the delay in the first half of next year.

He must have got that one from Howard .... over 90% of the refugees on Tampa ended up here anyway, mostly through NZ. I didn't see you bitch about it then ...

besides, they'll have a visa this time, and valid ID ... isn't that what you were worried about?

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 7:45pm: Datalife wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 7:43pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 7:36pm: Quote: Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER ( ... even as the panic sets in, Joe was being careful with his words - choosing "could" - over "would") You got a reference for that or like everyone else (who possesses brains) shouldn't you be waiting for the details? If they get the full dole over there they will be living like kings and I cannot see the locals liking that too much. As with everything Rudd, devil is in the detail and implementation and so far he has not got a good record.  Belay that, he has a shocking record.    a reference for what? the fact that it's a baseless assumption? ... you just said we need to wait for the details ... or do you think Hockey got all the details ahead of everyone else? No dimwit, a reference to the assertion that those being resettled in PNG having no access to medicare or centrelink. I cannot believe I just had to explain that to you.  You are dumber than I initially thought.

As it currently stands, residents of PNG do not get access to Australia's Medicare or centre link, right? now unless you have other information you can reference that would make you suspect this to no longer be the case, why would you assume it has changed? 

If you want dumb all you need is a mirror ... or a clean micro fibre cloth and a few minutes polishing up the monitor you are looking at.

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:26pm:

bambu wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 8:33pm: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink ##### Yes, and will get PNG citizenship, then simply waltz into Australia. Another trick from "ME TOO" Rudd. This stupid scheme will end up like all his other ones, a dismal failure. It's only for 12 months...until after the election. After 12 months PNG will likely say truthfully that it's been a disaster and cancel it. And the boats will poor in again...100,000 asylum seekers in his first term. Well maybe 90,000...given the delay in the first half of next year. He must have got that one from Howard .... over 90% of the refugees on Tampa ended up here anyway, mostly through NZ. I didn't see you bitch about it then ... besides, they'll have a visa this time, and valid ID ... isn't that what you were worried about?

Try 43% ended up here, the rest went home or elsewhere.

Valid ID and a visa? issued by PNG :)

We'll still have to house them and pay them welfare for life.
They still won't speak english and will likely never work.

We simply don't need them at all.

All Rudd's scheme is doing is sending them for a jungle holiday in PNG before settlement here.

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:31pm:

As it currently stands, residents of PNG do not get access to Australia's Medicare or centre link, right? now unless you have other information you can reference that would make you suspect this to no longer be the case, why would you assume it has changed?

I make no assumptions, that is why I have said several times I will wait on details.

Those making assumptions are the idiots or maybe just psychic claiming that they will not be able to access benefits. 

Once more dumbo, I do not know, nor do I presume to know, unlike the clowns like yourself making proclamations in advance of anything about implementation what benefits they might receive and for how long.

I hope that is simple enough for you to understand.  But possibly not, you do seem especially thick.

And I will laugh like a fvucking drain at those stating that they will not get benefits IF it turns out that those resettled can access financial benefits provided by the oz taxpayer. 

Once more dickhead cos you seem to be a slow learner I don't know nor do I presume to know, unlike your idiot self.

bambu wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 9:26pm: bambu wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 8:33pm: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink ##### Yes, and will get PNG citizenship, then simply waltz into Australia. Another trick from "ME TOO" Rudd. This stupid scheme will end up like all his other ones, a dismal failure. It's only for 12 months...until after the election. After 12 months PNG will likely say truthfully that it's been a disaster and cancel it. And the boats will poor in again...100,000 asylum seekers in his first term. Well maybe 90,000...given the delay in the first half of next year. He must have got that one from Howard .... over 90% of the refugees on Tampa ended up here anyway, mostly through NZ. I didn't see you bitch about it then ... besides, they'll have a visa this time, and valid ID ... isn't that what you were worried about? Try 43% ended up here, the rest went home or elsewhere. Valid ID and a visa? issued by PNG :) We'll still have to house them and pay them welfare for life. They still won't speak english and will likely never work. We simply don't need them at all. All Rudd's scheme is doing is sending them for a jungle holiday in PNG before settlement here.

do you even know what you want?

you didn't want boat people - tick
didn't want people drowning - tick
didn't want Malaysia - tick
you didn't want people without id - tick
you didn't want other to decide who could come to Australia - tick

you got everything you wanted and you're still whinging? Maybe we should just close all the borders?

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 9:31pm:   As it currently stands, residents of PNG do not get access to Australia's Medicare or centre link, right? now unless you have other information you can reference that would make you suspect this to no longer be the case, why would you assume it has changed?  I make no assumptions, that is why I have said several times I will wait on details. Those making assumptions are the idiots or maybe just psychic claiming that they will not be able to access benefits.  Once more dumbo, I do not know, nor do I presume to know, unlike the clowns like yourself making proclamations in advance of anything about implementation what benefits they might receive and for how long. I hope that is simple enough for you to understand.  But possibly not, you do seem especially thick. And I will laugh like a fvucking drain at those stating that they will not get benefits IF it turns out that those resettled can access financial benefits provided by the oz taxpayer.  Once more dickhead cos you seem to be a slow learner I don't know nor do I presume to know, unlike your idiot self.

no, the claim was that they cannot claim .... and they can't. Should the legislation ever change I'm sure Skip will change that statement .. he's seems smarter than you.

Maybe next time you shouldn't just disagree for the sake of it.

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:57pm:

Maybe next time you shouldn't just disagree for the sake of it.

eh?  I have been consistent in saying from my very first post when this was announced that the devil will be in the detail.  I made no clams about what the program details are cos I don't know.

And neither, bozo, do you.  But despite your ignorance you are still happy to declare that those resettled will not be able to access benefits.

I admit I don't know.

You presume to know.

Big difference.  You may be right. Maybe the policy does not include benefits but I sure as poo aint going on your say so cos you have no basis for saying so.

Or do you want to pretend you have knowledge of the policy that has not been revealed? 

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 10:09pm:

And neither, bozo, do you.  But despite your ignorance you are still happy to declare that those resettled will not be able to access benefits.

you'll have no problem putting up my said comment then, will you?

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 10:22pm:

Datalife wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 10:09pm: And neither, bozo, do you.  But despite your ignorance you are still happy to declare that those resettled will not be able to access benefits. you'll have no problem putting up my said comment then, will you?

Here ya go bozo,


Quote:

As it currently stands, residents of PNG do not get access to Australia's Medicare or centre link, right? now unless you have other information you can reference that would make you suspect this to no longer be the case, why would you assume it has changed?

and again


Quote:

no, the claim was that they cannot claim .... and they can't.

And you were defending this


Quote:

A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER

I don't assume nothing, I don't know what the policy includes but you seem pretty smacking sure it doesn't include oz government benefits.

Time will tell.  You may be right.  I don't know, and if you were not so much of an idiot you would admit you don't know either. 

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 8:05pm:

Check out the self professed humanitarians supporting dumping thousands of desperate people onto an impoverished third world nation by a rich nation in order to win an election? I thought your sell out price may have been slightly higher gents. Shame.

I was never humanitarian anyway. This is a football game we're watching here and one team has to win. ;)


bambu wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:39pm:

Try 43% ended up here, the rest went home or elsewhere. Valid ID and a visa? issued by PNG :)

The good thing about getting them to live in PNG is that we're getting another government to evaluate them before our government does. It reduces the workload by half.


bambu wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:39pm:

We'll still have to house them and pay them welfare for life. We simply don't need them at all. All Rudd's scheme is doing is sending them for a jungle holiday in PNG before settlement here.

I don't think it was any different under the Howard Government. They can be let loose in PNG society where they can rob and steal and support themselves without social security -- or beg. At least it won't be our problem as much as it used to be. :D ;)


bambu wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:39pm:

They still won't speak english and will likely never work.

I think that only applies to refugees. If they fail to prove they are refugees, they will have to pass an English literacy test. They will have to stay in PNG until they pass the test.

ua New Guinea villagers the new refugee victims
PETER MICHAEL IN PORT MORESBY THE COURIER-MAIL

Papua New Guinea villagers
Chiildren at the Hanuabada stilt village in Port Moresby. Picture: Brian Cassey Source: CourierMail
GIDEON Mahiro is one of about 3000 whose home is in line to be bulldozed to make way for a new refugee processing centre.

His shanty town, opposite the airport in Port Moresby, has been identified as a potential new site where genuine asylum seekers would be resettled in Papua New Guinea under the deal.

The 47-year-old electrician, a father-of-seven, sees brutal irony in his family being dispossessed of their tiny shack to make way for boatpeople out of Manus Island detention centre.

MORE: Rudd asylum-seeker deal half-baked



"It is a big headache," said Mr Mahiro, who trained for his trade at TAFE in Queensland.

Papua New Guinea villagers
Children at a squatter settlement next to Jackson Airport, Port Moresby. The site that has been earmarked for a refugee processing centre. About 4000 poeple live on the site and may face eviction from their homes. Picture: Brian Cassey
"If the government wants to bulldoze us out of our homes, they can do it without a humanitarian thought," said Mr Mahiro, of the ATS settlement.

"They will send armed police in to forcibly evict us, they will raze this entire township to the ground, and me and my children, and thousands of others will be left without anywhere to live."

He paints a bleak picture of law and order, high unemployment and a desperate housing shortages in the nation's capital.

"I'm educated, middle-class, but this is a very expensive, dangerous, and difficult place to make a living.

"I think the PNG government has taken the big carrot of billions in aid funding, hoping the boatpeople will not come."



charity doesnt begin at home apparently!

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 3:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 3:26pm: Quote: So if you do not condemn Labor for lying - then you have no reason to condemn me (given than I am lying) What sort of weird shite is that?  'He lied, so it's okay that I do as well.' :D where did I say it was ok I said if you don't condemn the ALP for lying then you have no business in condemning me for lying

Obviously you admit you are lying then

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

bambu wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 9:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 9:26pm: bambu wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 8:33pm: People sent to PNG to end up on Centrelink ##### Yes, and will get PNG citizenship, then simply waltz into Australia. Another trick from "ME TOO" Rudd. This stupid scheme will end up like all his other ones, a dismal failure. It's only for 12 months...until after the election. After 12 months PNG will likely say truthfully that it's been a disaster and cancel it. And the boats will poor in again...100,000 asylum seekers in his first term. Well maybe 90,000...given the delay in the first half of next year. He must have got that one from Howard .... over 90% of the refugees on Tampa ended up here anyway, mostly through NZ. I didn't see you bitch about it then ... besides, they'll have a visa this time, and valid ID ... isn't that what you were worried about? Try 43% ended up here, the rest went home or elsewhere. Valid ID and a visa? issued by PNG :) We'll still have to house them and pay them welfare for life. They still won't speak english and will likely never work. We simply don't need them at all. All Rudd's scheme is doing is sending them for a jungle holiday in PNG before settlement here.

The ppl that will be sent to PNG are the genuine refugees. After the boats stop there wont be any.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

cods wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 6:07am:

ua New Guinea villagers the new refugee victims PETER MICHAEL IN PORT MORESBY THE COURIER-MAIL Papua New Guinea villagers Chiildren at the Hanuabada stilt village in Port Moresby. Picture: Brian Cassey Source: CourierMail GIDEON Mahiro is one of about 3000 whose home is in line to be bulldozed to make way for a new refugee processing centre. His shanty town, opposite the airport in Port Moresby, has been identified as a potential new site where genuine asylum seekers would be resettled in Papua New Guinea under the deal. The 47-year-old electrician, a father-of-seven, sees brutal irony in his family being dispossessed of their tiny shack to make way for boatpeople out of Manus Island detention centre. MORE: Rudd asylum-seeker deal half-baked "It is a big headache," said Mr Mahiro, who trained for his trade at TAFE in Queensland. Papua New Guinea villagers Children at a squatter settlement next to Jackson Airport, Port Moresby. The site that has been earmarked for a refugee processing centre. About 4000 poeple live on the site and may face eviction from their homes. Picture: Brian Cassey "If the government wants to bulldoze us out of our homes, they can do it without a humanitarian thought," said Mr Mahiro, of the ATS settlement. "They will send armed police in to forcibly evict us, they will raze this entire township to the ground, and me and my children, and thousands of others will be left without anywhere to live." He paints a bleak picture of law and order, high unemployment and a desperate housing shortages in the nation's capital. "I'm educated, middle-class, but this is a very expensive, dangerous, and difficult place to make a living. "I think the PNG government has taken the big carrot of billions in aid funding, hoping the boatpeople will not come." charity doesnt begin at home apparently!

this is what a lot of us have been saying cod.... 100% spot on


but apparently, if you write in big pink writing, you can start calling everyone a liar on this issue...

should I hold my breath awaiting an apology??

[quote author=bambu link=1374369630/64#64 date=1374406796

Valid ID and a visa? issued by PNG :)

We'll still have to house them and pay them welfare for life.

quote]


Sorry Bambi, a valid visa from PNG does not entitle anyone to settle in Oz, they would not be classed as a refugee you idiot!!

Not sure where you get the fact that we will pay for their welfare for life    Mmm now lets see was it Alan Jones or Bud Abbott

True Blue... wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 7:05am:

should I hold my breath ... ??

Please, DO


( ... or one BETTER)





http://mspoki.tvnet.lv/upload/articles/38/387901/images/Darwina-balvas-2-dala-2.jpg

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 10:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 10:22pm: Datalife wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 10:09pm: And neither, bozo, do you.  But despite your ignorance you are still happy to declare that those resettled will not be able to access benefits. you'll have no problem putting up my said comment then, will you? Here ya go bozo, Quote: As it currently stands, residents of PNG do not get access to Australia's Medicare or centre link, right? now unless you have other information you can reference that would make you suspect this to no longer be the case, why would you assume it has changed? and again [quote]no, the claim was that they cannot claim .... and they can't.

And you were defending this


Quote:

A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER

I don't assume nothing, I don't know what the policy includes but you seem pretty smacking sure it doesn't include oz government benefits.

Time will tell.  You may be right.  I don't know, and if you were not so much of an idiot you would admit you don't know either.  [/quote]

In none of those comments have I claimed they will not be able to claim in the future ... I've said they cannot claim NOW, as the law currently stands ....  are you dam chinese or something?

Maqqa wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 11:22am:

Hard working Australians who worked all their lives paying taxes to now fund the lifestyle of these asylum seekers in PNG for the rest of their lives

bump

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 12:41pm:

In none of those comments have I claimed they will not be able to claim in the future ... I've said they cannot claim NOW, as the law currently stands ....  are you dam chinese or something?

LOL, I am not talking about NOW ya peanut.  I have been consistently saying I am awaiting details to see what Rudds PNG resettlement policy will consist of in the FUTURE.

You know that policy that was announced just the other day and we are still waiting the fine print?

It may be that they do not get benefits.  I simple do not know and neither, my idiot friend do you.

I really cannot make it any clearer than that.

Datalife wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22nd, 2013 at 12:41pm:   In none of those comments have I claimed they will not be able to claim in the future ... I've said they cannot claim NOW, as the law currently stands ....  are you dam chinese or something? LOL, I am not talking about NOW ya peanut.  I have been consistently saying I am awaiting details to see what Rudds PNG resettlement policy will consist of in the FUTURE. You know that policy that was announced just the other day and we are still waiting the fine print? It may be that they do not get benefits.  I simple do not know and neither, my idiot friend do you. I really cannot make it any clearer than that.

I don't know if you are thick or just plain stupid ... I have always said the details are yet to be released, but as it stands NOW the comment was correct ... they cannot get the dole.

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 4:05pm:

I don't know if you are thick or just plain stupid ... I have always said the details are yet to be released, but as it stands NOW the comment was correct ... they cannot get the dole.

We appear to be in furious agreement then,  so I have no clue why you dipped your oar in here which kicked the whole thing off. 


Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 7:45pm: Datalife wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 7:43pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 21st, 2013 at 7:36pm: Quote: Mr Hockey also alleged people sent to PNG by Labor could end up on Centrelink and MediCare "for the rest of their lives" A TOTALLY baseless ASSUMPTION If these refugees are settled in New Guinea - they have NO ACCESS to EITHER ( ... even as the panic sets in, Joe was being careful with his words - choosing "could" - over "would") You got a reference for that or like everyone else (who possesses brains) shouldn't you be waiting for the details? If they get the full dole over there they will be living like kings and I cannot see the locals liking that too much. As with everything Rudd, devil is in the detail and implementation and so far he has not got a good record.  Belay that, he has a shocking record.    a reference for what? the fact that it's a baseless assumption? ... you just said we need to wait for the details ... or do you think Hockey got all the details ahead of everyone else? No dimwit, a reference to the assertion that those being resettled in PNG having no access to medicare or centrelink. I cannot believe I just had to explain that to you.  You are dumber than I initially thought.

Quote:

You are dumber than I initially thought.

http://crappypictures.com/images/2012/08/broken-record2.gif

Datalife wrote on Jul 21^st, 2013 at 7:43pm:

If they get the full dole over there they will be living like kings  ...

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me4qteTmbm1qgfv7q.gif

HAHAHA!!!! WHERE DO YOU FIND THESE PICS FOR EVERY OCCASION?????

Alinta wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 5:54pm:

HAHAHA!!!! WHERE DO YOU FIND THESE PICS FOR EVERY OCCASION?????

Dunno about Mr Peccarry, but I start at Google Image (bung in what you want in the search block.....eg 'pissing myself laughing gif') and see what pops up.