Oldest Bible teaches that Jesus was human not God - God's servant, not God's son.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT8_faUmR1w

You shouldn't post stuff like that true colors, Gandalf may get upset.

True Colours wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 3:29am:

Oldest Bible teaches that Jesus was human not God - God's servant, not God's son. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT8_faUmR1w

The guy in the YT, produced a TV series for the BBC, presenting early Christianity from a 'humanist'/atheist point of view, which suggests that Jesus was a man [true], that Jesus was not divine, that Jesus own family did not see Jesus as divine, and that [if Jesus was not divine, then] Jesus was not resurected from the dead [3 days after his execution].

You who read this can believe, whatever you want to believe.

Because you live/were born in this country, you have an opportunity to examine the evidence, and to read the testimonies in the New Testament.







Luke 23:55
And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
56  And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Luke 24:1
Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2  And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3  And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
4  And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
5  And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
6  He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
7  Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
8  And they remembered his words,
9  And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
10  It was Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles.
11  And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.

Luke 24:13
And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
14  And they talked together of all these things which had happened.
15  And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.
16  But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
17  And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?
18  And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?
19  And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:
20  And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.
21  But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.
22  Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre;
23  And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive.
24  And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not.
25  Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
26  Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
27  And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.



1 Corinthians 15:4
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5  And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6  After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7  After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8  And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9  For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.


1 Corinthians 1:21
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.






The redeemer of God's people, is Yeshua.

Orthodox Rabbi Reveals Name of Messiah "JESUS","Yehoshua"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0DTT3u2JZ8

little known fact: the "jesus is son of God" movement was just one small sect in early christianity - and by no means mainstream.


shockresist wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 6:33am:

You shouldn't post stuff like that true colors, Gandalf may get upset.

There are plenty of valid islamic topics that are worth discussing without needing to drag in other religions. It just reeks of deflection.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 9:51am:

little known fact: the "jesus is son of God" movement was just one small sect in early christianity - and by no means mainstream. shockresist wrote on Jul 30th, 2013 at 6:33am: You shouldn't post stuff like that true colors, Gandalf may get upset. There are plenty of valid islamic topics that are worth discussing without needing to drag in other religions. It just reeks of deflection.

The fact is that early Christianity was [and imo, the true followers of Jesus ALWAYS REMAINED, members of] a Jewish sect.

Some even claim that early Christianity was a continuation of the authentic [approved by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob] 'Jewish religion'.     ::)

Jewish Rabbi Admits Muslims Worship The One True God


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFjkmDe_EE4

True Colours wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 10:19am:

Jewish Rabbi Admits Muslims Worship The One True God https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFjkmDe_EE4

Jewish Rabbi admits Muslims worship the True God

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Christians Confused, But Muslims & Jews Pray the Way of Prophets.

Genesis 17:3. `And Abram fell on his face

Genesis 17:7 "Then Abraham fell upon his face...

Numbers 16:22  ...[Moses and Aaron] fell upon their faces

Numbers 20:6 And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces...


Joshua 5:14. `And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship.'

Matthew 26:39. `And he [jesus] went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed.'

Revelations 7:11-12 ...and [the angels] fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God

Matthew 17:6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face..."




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0sk9l6Q2lI

Jews & Muslims praying like Prophets. What Are Christians Doing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aHWASyMjwg

Errr.. so some jews "falling on their face" in worship proves that islam is right?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

Errr.. so some jews "falling on their face" in worship proves that islam is right?

Clear evidence of Mohammad pilfering the jewish prayer for his religion if you ask me. :)

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3311/1gcu.jpg

Proof that Christianity is a false religion

http://christianclippers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Holy-Bible-300x239.jpg

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

Errr.. so some jews "falling on their face" in worship proves that islam is right?

No, but it should make people like Yadda wonder what the heck they themselves are doing.

I have been to church - they sing songs, drink wine, eat bread.  Is that worship or a party?

You think Yadda would ever pause and question his own beliefs??  ;D ;D ;D

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30^th, 2013 at 6:02pm:

You think Yadda would ever pause and question his own beliefs??  ;D ;D ;D

Perhaps not Yadda - although I hate to write anyone off. However, there might be some Christians out there reading this who are genuinely interested in the truth.