BREAKING NEWS: TWO former high-profile Labor MPs, Eddie Obeid and Ian Macdonald, have been found by the NSW ICAC to have acted corruptly and referred for possible criminal charges.
Following the largest corruption investigation in NSW history, the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) today handed down three reports.
Commissioner David Ipp has recommended that Mr Obeid and Mr Macdonald be considered by the Department of Public Prosecution (DPP) for possible prosecution over their involvement in the Mount Penny coal mine.
Mr Obeids' son Moses, and businessmen Travers Duncan, John McGuigan, John Atkinson, John Kinghorn and Richard Poole were also found to have engaged in corrupt conduct.
Operation Jasper investigated reports that Mr Macdonald rigged a 2008 tender process to grant a coal licence over land at Mount Penny owned by the Obeid family.
It enabled the Obeids to make $30 million, with the prospect of earning at least $70 million more.




>:(

Thoughts?

Excellent!  As has happened with previous Labor MPs who have been caught with noses in the trough, they have been swiftly dealt with - and/or expelled from the party, as it should be.

Now, how about the Lib Premiers of Victoria and Queensland do the same for the trough dwellers in their party?

Karnal wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:39pm:

Thoughts?

Le sock de jour?   

No one has been removed from the party.
The findings only came out today.
Yes an enquiry should be held into Anna Bligh and that $20 mil dollars given to unions that day before she left I agree.
Now we just need to get Thomson and Gillard’s cases out in the open

Oh wouldn't the Public of New South Wales love to see those two in gaol uniform.

Sometimes I cling to the faint hope that there is Justice, occasionally.

Fully agree with the enquiry also.  But isn't the Lib MP in queensland who would possibly conduct that sunning himself down coast on the taxpayer teat - with the missus and kids in tow?

Dont know where anyone is sunbathing.

But i know the labor party is full of corruption and nothing short of a royal commission will do

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:53pm:

No one has been removed from the party. The findings only came out today. Yes an enquiry should be held into Anna Bligh and that $20 mil dollars given to unions that day before she left I agree. Now we just need to get Thomson and Gillard’s cases out in the open

did not hear about that one

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:11pm:

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:53pm: No one has been removed from the party. The findings only came out today. Yes an enquiry should be held into Anna Bligh and that $20 mil dollars given to unions that day before she left I agree. Now we just need to get Thomson and Gillard’s cases out in the open did not hear about that one

There'd be a very good reason for that Mr Cyclist.

Anna bligh gave $20mil to queensland racing the day before she quit.
The president of queensland racing is Bill ludwig

Bligh government's $20m transfer set to spark probe into Queensland racing industry

Vic wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:40pm:

Excellent!  As has happened with previous Labor MPs who have been caught with noses in the trough, they have been swiftly dealt with - and/or expelled from the party, as it should be. Now, how about the Lib Premiers of Victoria and Queensland do the same for the trough dwellers in their party?

did they pinch millions????and rob poor farmers?

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:23pm:

Vic wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:40pm: Excellent!  As has happened with previous Labor MPs who have been caught with noses in the trough, they have been swiftly dealt with - and/or expelled from the party, as it should be. Now, how about the Lib Premiers of Victoria and Queensland do the same for the trough dwellers in their party? did they pinch millions????and rob poor farmers?

Does it matter?  Is theft not theft?    While people in Qld are being FIRED by the Newman Government, his Minister is spending a bit of time with luvey on the taxpayer teat.  Are you happy with that?   

The good thing about Labor at the moment is that they are hell bent on reforming their party and getting rid of scum like these two.     The Liberals seem to endorse this behaviour - at the state level at least

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Anna bligh gave $20mil to queensland racing the day before she quit. The president of queensland racing is Bill ludwig Bligh government's $20m transfer set to spark probe into Queensland racing industry

wonder where she got that from.. I seem to remember they had to have a levy to pay for their flood damage...thanks to her ineptitude..and then they find that amount for racing yet.,..

just shows where priorities lie doesnt it?

Vic wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:26pm:

cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:23pm: Vic wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:40pm: Excellent!  As has happened with previous Labor MPs who have been caught with noses in the trough, they have been swiftly dealt with - and/or expelled from the party, as it should be. Now, how about the Lib Premiers of Victoria and Queensland do the same for the trough dwellers in their party? did they pinch millions????and rob poor farmers? Does it matter?  Is theft not theft?    While people in Qld are being FIRED by the Newman Government, his Minister is spending a bit of time with luvey on the taxpayer teat.  Are you happy with that?    The good thing about Labor at the moment is that they are hell bent on reforming their party and getting rid of scum like these two.     The Liberals seem to endorse this behaviour - at the state level at least

tell us who you are talking about..otherwise we only have your word for it...how do you know all this???..

reform.. do you really think the unions are going to sit back and watch their lifelong hold disappear.. they hate kev the con more than the righties do..

its all words with krudd.. whatever he does do either ends up broke/in chaos or he backflips..

he wont stop the corruption its far too entrenched..but it sucks people in I guess and that is the real point..

is THOMO still a member of the ALP?

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:31pm:

Vic wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:26pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:23pm: Vic wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:40pm: Excellent!  As has happened with previous Labor MPs who have been caught with noses in the trough, they have been swiftly dealt with - and/or expelled from the party, as it should be. Now, how about the Lib Premiers of Victoria and Queensland do the same for the trough dwellers in their party? did they pinch millions????and rob poor farmers? Does it matter?  Is theft not theft?    While people in Qld are being FIRED by the Newman Government, his Minister is spending a bit of time with luvey on the taxpayer teat.  Are you happy with that?    The good thing about Labor at the moment is that they are hell bent on reforming their party and getting rid of scum like these two.     The Liberals seem to endorse this behaviour - at the state level at least tell us who you are talking about..otherwise we only have your word for it...how do you know all this???.. It's been in the papers!!!! reform.. do you really think the unions are going to sit back and watch their lifelong hold disappear.. they hate kev the con more than the righties do.. Well, they are it seems - the reforms for the NSW ALP got consensus.  Notice that Rudd once again picked his front bench without ANY union involvement - as he did in 2007? its all words with krudd.. whatever he does do either ends up broke/in chaos or he backflips.. Right........   That's why he has a popularity % that is so low   ;D he wont stop the corruption its far too entrenched..but it sucks people in I guess and that is the real point.. I will give him the benefit of the doubt - if it works it will be good, if it doesnt' well I guess he tried and the Unions will again rule the roost is THOMO still a member of the ALP? I have no idea - as his many charges were accrued when he was in the HSU, and not as an MP, and he hasn't at this stage been found guilty in a court of law - therefore presumed innocent at this stage - is there any reason why he shouldn't be?

Vic wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:36pm:

cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:31pm: Vic wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:26pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:23pm: Vic wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:40pm: Excellent!  As has happened with previous Labor MPs who have been caught with noses in the trough, they have been swiftly dealt with - and/or expelled from the party, as it should be. Now, how about the Lib Premiers of Victoria and Queensland do the same for the trough dwellers in their party? did they pinch millions????and rob poor farmers? Does it matter?  Is theft not theft?    While people in Qld are being FIRED by the Newman Government, his Minister is spending a bit of time with luvey on the taxpayer teat.  Are you happy with that?    The good thing about Labor at the moment is that they are hell bent on reforming their party and getting rid of scum like these two.     The Liberals seem to endorse this behaviour - at the state level at least tell us who you are talking about..otherwise we only have your word for it...how do you know all this???.. It's been in the papers!!!! reform.. do you really think the unions are going to sit back and watch their lifelong hold disappear.. they hate kev the con more than the righties do.. Well, they are it seems - the reforms for the NSW ALP got consensus.  Notice that Rudd once again picked his front bench without ANY union involvement - as he did in 2007? its all words with krudd.. whatever he does do either ends up broke/in chaos or he backflips.. Right........   That's why he has a popularity % that is so low   ;D he wont stop the corruption its far too entrenched..but it sucks people in I guess and that is the real point.. I will give him the benefit of the doubt - if it works it will be good, if it doesnt' well I guess he tried and the Unions will again rule the roost is THOMO still a member of the ALP? I have no idea - as his many charges were accrued when he was in the HSU, and not as an MP, and he hasn't at this stage been found guilty in a court of law - therefore presumed innocent at this stage - is there any reason why he shouldn't be?

which papers I am housebound so only have the website and I cant be bothered reading them all......if its in the papers it isnt a secret

did they say we are funding his holiday??


yes the ALP wanted him gone the moment he said he would run as an independent.. he also claimed they promised him more money to pay for his lawyers which they deny...they said they were working on getting rid of him...at the moment he is only suspended which we all know means bugger all.

it sounds like a cult you dont just walk in and resign.. or likewise get the sack...its more involved than that.. more like an execution...sorry just joking.

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:42pm:

Vic wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:36pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:31pm: Vic wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:26pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:23pm: Vic wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:40pm: Excellent!  As has happened with previous Labor MPs who have been caught with noses in the trough, they have been swiftly dealt with - and/or expelled from the party, as it should be. Now, how about the Lib Premiers of Victoria and Queensland do the same for the trough dwellers in their party? did they pinch millions????and rob poor farmers? Does it matter?  Is theft not theft?    While people in Qld are being FIRED by the Newman Government, his Minister is spending a bit of time with luvey on the taxpayer teat.  Are you happy with that?    The good thing about Labor at the moment is that they are hell bent on reforming their party and getting rid of scum like these two.     The Liberals seem to endorse this behaviour - at the state level at least tell us who you are talking about..otherwise we only have your word for it...how do you know all this???.. It's been in the papers!!!! reform.. do you really think the unions are going to sit back and watch their lifelong hold disappear.. they hate kev the con more than the righties do.. Well, they are it seems - the reforms for the NSW ALP got consensus.  Notice that Rudd once again picked his front bench without ANY union involvement - as he did in 2007? its all words with krudd.. whatever he does do either ends up broke/in chaos or he backflips.. Right........   That's why he has a popularity % that is so low   ;D he wont stop the corruption its far too entrenched..but it sucks people in I guess and that is the real point.. I will give him the benefit of the doubt - if it works it will be good, if it doesnt' well I guess he tried and the Unions will again rule the roost is THOMO still a member of the ALP? I have no idea - as his many charges were accrued when he was in the HSU, and not as an MP, and he hasn't at this stage been found guilty in a court of law - therefore presumed innocent at this stage - is there any reason why he shouldn't be? which papers I am housebound so only have the website and I cant be bothered reading them all......if its in the papers it isnt a secret did they say we are funding his holiday?? yes the ALP wanted him gone the moment he said he would run as an independent.. he also claimed they promised him more money to pay for his lawyers which they deny...they said they were working on getting rid of him...at the moment he is only suspended which we all know means bugger all. it sounds like a cult you dont just walk in and resign.. or likewise get the sack...its more involved than that.. more like an execution...sorry just joking.

The man concerned is Jack Dempsey.  Here is one of the links.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/opposition-calls-for-jack-dempsey-trip-investigation-20130724-2qiwr.html

It's amazing that Mr Rudd is only NOW expressing surprise at Labor corruption.

He was made PM in 2007 because of an agreement between various Labor factions. Figuring significantly in this was the Sussex Street heavies.

It's also amazing that Foreign Minister Carr did not know anything about all this corruption. After all he was the NSW Labor Premier for 10 years.

There is no limits to the corruption of free market capitalism and a deregulated society.  What we need are more regulations and sanctions on business not less and then we will crack down on organized crime....

Free Market capitalism is morally degenerate and weak on law and order, only socialism will deal with organized crime in a timely manner...

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:37pm:

BREAKING NEWS: TWO former high-profile Labor MPs, Eddie Obeid and Ian Macdonald, have been found by the NSW ICAC to have acted corruptly and referred for possible criminal charges. Following the largest corruption investigation in NSW history, the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) today handed down three reports. Commissioner David Ipp has recommended that Mr Obeid and Mr Macdonald be considered by the Department of Public Prosecution (DPP) for possible prosecution over their involvement in the Mount Penny coal mine. Mr Obeids' son Moses, and businessmen Travers Duncan, John McGuigan, John Atkinson, John Kinghorn and Richard Poole were also found to have engaged in corrupt conduct. Operation Jasper investigated reports that Mr Macdonald rigged a 2008 tender process to grant a coal licence over land at Mount Penny owned by the Obeid family. It enabled the Obeids to make $30 million, with the prospect of earning at least $70 million more. >:(

I feel sorry for Joe 'the hammer' Votolio and Jimmy 'the rat' Bicchieri from the Mafia Recruitment Wing. They flew into Australia in the hope of finding some vile filth willing to join the Mafia crime empire. They took one look at our pollies and said even the Mafia wouldn't sink to the low depths that Australian pollies are capable of. They have flown back to the USA with no new recruits.

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:08pm:

But i know the labor party is full of corruption and nothing short of a royal commission will do

Have you got any proof of the labor party being full of corruption.

Tell us how you know that Rudd is corrupt how is John Robertson corrupt.

Put up or shut up dickhead

salad in wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 5:35pm:

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:37pm: BREAKING NEWS: TWO former high-profile Labor MPs, Eddie Obeid and Ian Macdonald, have been found by the NSW ICAC to have acted corruptly and referred for possible criminal charges. Following the largest corruption investigation in NSW history, the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) today handed down three reports. Commissioner David Ipp has recommended that Mr Obeid and Mr Macdonald be considered by the Department of Public Prosecution (DPP) for possible prosecution over their involvement in the Mount Penny coal mine. Mr Obeids' son Moses, and businessmen Travers Duncan, John McGuigan, John Atkinson, John Kinghorn and Richard Poole were also found to have engaged in corrupt conduct. Operation Jasper investigated reports that Mr Macdonald rigged a 2008 tender process to grant a coal licence over land at Mount Penny owned by the Obeid family. It enabled the Obeids to make $30 million, with the prospect of earning at least $70 million more. >:( I feel sorry for Joe 'the hammer' Votolio and Jimmy 'the rat' Bicchieri from the Mafia Recruitment Wing. They flew into Australia in the hope of finding some vile filth willing to join the Mafia crime empire. They took one look at our pollies and said even the Mafia wouldn't sink to the low depths that Australian pollies are capable of. They have flown back to the USA with no new recruits.

Did they look at liberal party pollies and seen they were all dickheads

John S wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 10:48pm:

salad in wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 5:35pm: labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:37pm: BREAKING NEWS: TWO former high-profile Labor MPs, Eddie Obeid and Ian Macdonald, have been found by the NSW ICAC to have acted corruptly and referred for possible criminal charges. Following the largest corruption investigation in NSW history, the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) today handed down three reports. Commissioner David Ipp has recommended that Mr Obeid and Mr Macdonald be considered by the Department of Public Prosecution (DPP) for possible prosecution over their involvement in the Mount Penny coal mine. Mr Obeids' son Moses, and businessmen Travers Duncan, John McGuigan, John Atkinson, John Kinghorn and Richard Poole were also found to have engaged in corrupt conduct. Operation Jasper investigated reports that Mr Macdonald rigged a 2008 tender process to grant a coal licence over land at Mount Penny owned by the Obeid family. It enabled the Obeids to make $30 million, with the prospect of earning at least $70 million more. >:( I feel sorry for Joe 'the hammer' Votolio and Jimmy 'the rat' Bicchieri from the Mafia Recruitment Wing. They flew into Australia in the hope of finding some vile filth willing to join the Mafia crime empire. They took one look at our pollies and said even the Mafia wouldn't sink to the low depths that Australian pollies are capable of. They have flown back to the USA with no new recruits. Did they look at liberal party pollies and seen they were all dickheads

"And seen they were..."

Goodness me your English is appalling.
What university did you go to again?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 10:53pm:

John S wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 10:48pm: salad in wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 5:35pm: labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:37pm: BREAKING NEWS: TWO former high-profile Labor MPs, Eddie Obeid and Ian Macdonald, have been found by the NSW ICAC to have acted corruptly and referred for possible criminal charges. Following the largest corruption investigation in NSW history, the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) today handed down three reports. Commissioner David Ipp has recommended that Mr Obeid and Mr Macdonald be considered by the Department of Public Prosecution (DPP) for possible prosecution over their involvement in the Mount Penny coal mine. Mr Obeids' son Moses, and businessmen Travers Duncan, John McGuigan, John Atkinson, John Kinghorn and Richard Poole were also found to have engaged in corrupt conduct. Operation Jasper investigated reports that Mr Macdonald rigged a 2008 tender process to grant a coal licence over land at Mount Penny owned by the Obeid family. It enabled the Obeids to make $30 million, with the prospect of earning at least $70 million more. >:( I feel sorry for Joe 'the hammer' Votolio and Jimmy 'the rat' Bicchieri from the Mafia Recruitment Wing. They flew into Australia in the hope of finding some vile filth willing to join the Mafia crime empire. They took one look at our pollies and said even the Mafia wouldn't sink to the low depths that Australian pollies are capable of. They have flown back to the USA with no new recruits. Did they look at liberal party pollies and seen they were all dickheads "And seen they were..." Goodness me your English is appalling. What university did you go to again?

How many times do I have to tell you I went to tech and learnt a trade and I work 40 hours a week and get the same hourly rate as you that has to work 50 to 60 hours a week

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 2:26pm:

It's amazing that Mr Rudd is only NOW expressing surprise at Labor corruption. He was made PM in 2007 because of an agreement between various Labor factions. Figuring significantly in this was the Sussex Street heavies. It's also amazing that Foreign Minister Carr did not know anything about all this corruption. After all he was the NSW Labor Premier for 10 years.

if rudd and carr were NOT aware of such corruption  they should have been.

they are seriously negligent in their duties by not knowing.

John S wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 11:04pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 10:53pm: John S wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 10:48pm: salad in wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 5:35pm: labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:37pm: BREAKING NEWS: TWO former high-profile Labor MPs, Eddie Obeid and Ian Macdonald, have been found by the NSW ICAC to have acted corruptly and referred for possible criminal charges. Following the largest corruption investigation in NSW history, the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) today handed down three reports. Commissioner David Ipp has recommended that Mr Obeid and Mr Macdonald be considered by the Department of Public Prosecution (DPP) for possible prosecution over their involvement in the Mount Penny coal mine. Mr Obeids' son Moses, and businessmen Travers Duncan, John McGuigan, John Atkinson, John Kinghorn and Richard Poole were also found to have engaged in corrupt conduct. Operation Jasper investigated reports that Mr Macdonald rigged a 2008 tender process to grant a coal licence over land at Mount Penny owned by the Obeid family. It enabled the Obeids to make $30 million, with the prospect of earning at least $70 million more. >:( I feel sorry for Joe 'the hammer' Votolio and Jimmy 'the rat' Bicchieri from the Mafia Recruitment Wing. They flew into Australia in the hope of finding some vile filth willing to join the Mafia crime empire. They took one look at our pollies and said even the Mafia wouldn't sink to the low depths that Australian pollies are capable of. They have flown back to the USA with no new recruits. Did they look at liberal party pollies and seen they were all dickheads "And seen they were..." Goodness me your English is appalling. What university did you go to again? How many times do I have to tell you I went to tech and learnt a trade and I work 40 hours a week and get the same hourly rate as you that has to work 50 to 60 hours a week

They obviously never taught English at this "tech".
You are quite clearly not very intelligent.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 11:15pm:

John S wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 11:04pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 10:53pm: John S wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 10:48pm: salad in wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 5:35pm: labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:37pm: BREAKING NEWS: TWO former high-profile Labor MPs, Eddie Obeid and Ian Macdonald, have been found by the NSW ICAC to have acted corruptly and referred for possible criminal charges. Following the largest corruption investigation in NSW history, the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) today handed down three reports. Commissioner David Ipp has recommended that Mr Obeid and Mr Macdonald be considered by the Department of Public Prosecution (DPP) for possible prosecution over their involvement in the Mount Penny coal mine. Mr Obeids' son Moses, and businessmen Travers Duncan, John McGuigan, John Atkinson, John Kinghorn and Richard Poole were also found to have engaged in corrupt conduct. Operation Jasper investigated reports that Mr Macdonald rigged a 2008 tender process to grant a coal licence over land at Mount Penny owned by the Obeid family. It enabled the Obeids to make $30 million, with the prospect of earning at least $70 million more. >:( I feel sorry for Joe 'the hammer' Votolio and Jimmy 'the rat' Bicchieri from the Mafia Recruitment Wing. They flew into Australia in the hope of finding some vile filth willing to join the Mafia crime empire. They took one look at our pollies and said even the Mafia wouldn't sink to the low depths that Australian pollies are capable of. They have flown back to the USA with no new recruits. Did they look at liberal party pollies and seen they were all dickheads "And seen they were..." Goodness me your English is appalling. What university did you go to again? How many times do I have to tell you I went to tech and learnt a trade and I work 40 hours a week and get the same hourly rate as you that has to work 50 to 60 hours a week They obviously never taught English at this "tech". You are quite clearly not very intelligent.

So you have to be intelligent now to be a dickhead.

I am glad I am not intelligent then.

So when are you going back to South Africa where you were born and tell them how good you are.

John S wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 11:20pm:

I am glad I am not intelligent then.

Agreed, you are incredibly thick.

I am not sure what I find most amusing.
Your utterly appalling attempts to construct sentences or your post as Wise One saying how much of a shame it is Riverina Jack no longer posts.

People as thick as you should be banned from forums.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 11:46pm:

John S wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 11:20pm: I am glad I am not intelligent then. Agreed, you are incredibly thick. I am not sure what I find most amusing. Your utterly appalling attempts to construct sentences or your post as Wise One saying how much of a shame it is Riverina Jack no longer posts. People as thick as you should be banned from forums.

if you are so smart dickhead go on to this thread and defend what Abbott has done or are you like all the other liberal supporters and have no backbone and can't defend him on what he has done.

I don't mean that you or anyone else have to turn the thread around to what Rudd or labor has done and think that is defending him.


I know you would like ALL labor and greens supporter to leave so you can turn this site into a liberal party wankafest and guess what dickhead i am not leaving don't matter how much shyte you or anyone else put on me

Lots of love on this thread. Lol
Labor are corrupt read any of today’s papers.

John S wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 10:48pm:

Did they look at liberal party pollies and seen they were all dickheads

Wild One, they ran their eyes over ALL Australian pollies and couldn't believe the level of corruption, which includes moral corruption. They read about the ALP pollie who helped himself to about AUD$43,000 of taxpayers' money. They read about the NP pollie who slept in his car at truck stops so he could claim T/A.

Like you say, plenty of dickheads in the political parties.

labor are corrupt wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:12am:

Labor are corrupt read any of today’s papers.

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:08pm:

But I know the labor party is full of corruption and nothing short of a royal commission will do

Come on dickhead I ask last night to show where the labor party is corrupt.

What has Rudd done to be corrupt? What has Robertson done to be corrupt? Do you know of anyone that are in the labor party that are corrupt?

You only have to look at these post from other web sites

"Political Lies: Who tells Them’’.

"Tony Abbott’s Latest 15 Lies’’.

"Keep Lying, Mr Abbott’’.

“Tony… Stop the LIES, and Stop the RORTS!”


I could say that the liberal party is full of liers. So come on put up proof that the labor is full of corrupt people

"Come on dickhead" LOL typical leftard response.

As a new member I am not allowed to post links yet but have patience I’m not going away.

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 1:08pm:

Dont know where anyone is sunbathing. But i know the labor party is full of corruption and nothing short of a royal commission will do

Translated, this means:

"I chose my nic because I have an obsession with Labor corruption. I do not want to talk about anything else nor about corruption in any other organisation.

I am strictly a one trick pony".

Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread.

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 9:15am:

Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread.

I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum.

It only opens them to ridicule.

Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know?

John S wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:47am:

labor are corrupt wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 8:12am: Labor are corrupt read any of today’s papers. labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 1:08pm: But I know the labor party is full of corruption and nothing short of a royal commission will do Come on dickhead I ask last night to show where the labor party is corrupt. What has Rudd done to be corrupt? What has Robertson done to be corrupt? Do you know of anyone that are in the labor party that are corrupt? You only have to look at these post from other web sites "Political Lies: Who tells Them’’. "Tony Abbott’s Latest 15 Lies’’. "Keep Lying, Mr Abbott’’. “Tony… Stop the LIES, and Stop the RORTS!” I could say that the liberal party is full of liers. So come on put up proof that the labor is full of corrupt people

you only read lefty websites.. we all know that.. do you honestly expect them to say anything good about the libs. ;D ;D ;D ;D

and do we expect you to read and b elieve if they did??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you are so brainwashed I am surprised anyone bothers with your c&ps........maybe when you take those blinkers off who knows.. ::) ::)

salad in wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 5:35pm:

labor are corrupt wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 12:37pm: BREAKING NEWS: TWO former high-profile Labor MPs, Eddie Obeid and Ian Macdonald, have been found by the NSW ICAC to have acted corruptly and referred for possible criminal charges. Following the largest corruption investigation in NSW history, the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) today handed down three reports. Commissioner David Ipp has recommended that Mr Obeid and Mr Macdonald be considered by the Department of Public Prosecution (DPP) for possible prosecution over their involvement in the Mount Penny coal mine. Mr Obeids' son Moses, and businessmen Travers Duncan, John McGuigan, John Atkinson, John Kinghorn and Richard Poole were also found to have engaged in corrupt conduct. Operation Jasper investigated reports that Mr Macdonald rigged a 2008 tender process to grant a coal licence over land at Mount Penny owned by the Obeid family. It enabled the Obeids to make $30 million, with the prospect of earning at least $70 million more. >:( I feel sorry for Joe 'the hammer' Votolio and Jimmy 'the rat' Bicchieri from the Mafia Recruitment Wing. They flew into Australia in the hope of finding some vile filth willing to join the Mafia crime empire. They took one look at our pollies and said even the Mafia wouldn't sink to the low depths that Australian pollies are capable of. They have flown back to the USA with no new recruits.

what a stupid comment

have you ever known the mafia to run at a deficit? Why would they recruit ANY Aussie politicians?

The Obeids and CO should, if found guilty in a court of law, be sent to jail for the maximum allowable sentence.

But lets not pretend from the libs on here that corruption is limited to labor. More than a few libs have been caught out in their time.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:35am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know?

Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you.

Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:35am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know?

Tell me why that on other forums that I am a member of that on one complains about my spelling or grammar, all it goes to show me that you are a dead set dickhead

You have just got the shytes as I can earn as much as you by going and lean a trade as you went to university to do a course that you can do at TAFE with a year 4 certificate.

John S wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 3:34pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:35am: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know? Tell me why that on other forums that I am a member of that on one complains about my spelling or grammar, all it goes to show me that you are a dead set dickhead You have just got the shytes as I can earn as much as you by going and lean a trade as you went to university to do a course that you can do at TAFE with a year 4 certificate.

I have no idea, maybe they are all as thick as you?

Your command of written English is utterly atrocious and I don't think would get a pass mark in a class of 10 year olds.

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:35am: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know? Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you. Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers.

Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 3:44pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:39pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:35am: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know? Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you. Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers. Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter.

No, Andrei. Self confident people don't have to be arrogant, they allow their abilities to speak for themselves.

Arrogance isn't self confidence, but the opposite.

Read & learn, van der grasshopper.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 3:44pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:39pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:35am: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know? Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you. Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers. Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter.

In your case Mr Hicks, it is clear that the arrogance you display is borne out of a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 3:44pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:39pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:35am: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know? Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you. Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers. Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter.

arrogance goes beyond self confidence dopey ...... like everything else, to much of a good thing is bad for you. I'd have to wonder if you would be so free with your 'compliments' in real life ..

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:17pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 3:44pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:39pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:35am: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know? Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you. Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers. Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter. No, Andrei. Self confident people don't have to be arrogant, they allow their abilities to speak for themselves. Arrogance isn't self confidence, but the opposite. Read & learn, van der grasshopper.

I am not arrogant, merely self confident and I suffer fools lightly.

I also did not work as bloody hard in life to have some thick-as-mince blue collar labourer believe he can regard himself as my peer.

By the way, someone is not arrogant merely because you believe they are.

You'll also find both sets of my forefathers were not arrogant, rather both had the confidence and fortitude to build countries from scratch. One an Empire, the other the Pearl of Africa.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:29pm:

I am not arrogant, merely self confident and I suffer fools lightly.

so no mirrors in your place then?

I do believe I am a Prophet!!!!

I posted ^^^:


Quote:

In your case Mr Hicks, it is clear that the arrogance you display is borne out of a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others.

Lo and behold, Mr Hicks comes up with the proof!!


Quote:

I also did not work as bloody hard in life to have some thick-as-mince blue collar labourer believe he can regard himself as my peer.

:D

The Boer isn't arrogant?

C'mon, Andrei, not even you can believe THAT crap.

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:35pm:

The Boer isn't arrogant? C'mon, Andrei, not even you can believe THAT crap.

Peter, the Boers built a fantastic country in spite of tremendous adversity and many enemies.

It would probably do a lot of people (you included) no harm to research a little on the history from the Great Trek to the turn of the century wars to the Jameson Raid to the concentration camps - it will give you an understanding of what made up the Afrikaner mindset.

A hardened race of people who have had to be so to survive.

Its easy to criticise from afar and you are as guilty as any of holding the Republik up in a bad light - quite the contrary to the recollections of my own mother who lived there and knew it as well as any.

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:17pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 3:44pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:39pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:35am: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know? Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you. Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers. Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter. No, Andrei. Self confident people don't have to be arrogant, they allow their abilities to speak for themselves. Arrogance isn't self confidence, but the opposite. Read & learn, van der grasshopper.

for a lefty we agree often peter....I heard a long time ago.. real wealthy people never talk about their money...the same with self confidence.. no need too....they ooooze it..

arrogance in my humble opinion is just a form of snobbery people who think they are better than most......trouble is only they think it.. ;D ;D

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:46pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:35pm: The Boer isn't arrogant? C'mon, Andrei, not even you can believe THAT crap. Peter, the Boers built a fantastic country in spite of tremendous adversity and many enemies. It would probably do a lot of people (you included) no harm to research a little on the history from the Great Trek to the turn of the century wars to the Jameson Raid to the concentration camps - it will give you an understanding of what made up the Afrikaner mindset. A hardened race of people who have had to be so to survive. Its easy to criticise from afar and you are as guilty as any of holding the Republik up in a bad light - quite the contrary to the recollections of my own mother who lived there and knew it as well as any.

so you really are of Dutch heritage rather than British andrei

both cods.

But I am an Aussie by birth, I am more loyal to Australia than South Africa.

In fact I hold no loyalty there, because i think what has happened in recent years there is an outrage and I want no part of it.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:46pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:35pm: The Boer isn't arrogant? C'mon, Andrei, not even you can believe THAT crap. Peter, the Boers built a fantastic country in spite of tremendous adversity and many enemies. It would probably do a lot of people (you included) no harm to research a little on the history from the Great Trek to the turn of the century wars to the Jameson Raid to the concentration camps - it will give you an understanding of what made up the Afrikaner mindset. A hardened race of people who have had to be so to survive. Its easy to criticise from afar and you are as guilty as any of holding the Republik up in a bad light - quite the contrary to the recollections of my own mother who lived there and knew it as well as any.

Andrei, I have read about Boer history and agree with your assessment of them. But many were, and still are, both arrogant and racist.

I have also read a history of the Broederbond which tells part of the story, too.

There is much in Boer history for you to be proud of, but also much that is shameful. I know you won't agree, but apartheid, to me, was a movement of murder, racism, arrogance and bigotry.

We will disagree and that's perfectly fine.

But to me the policy of Separate Development - as envisaged by Malan and Verwoerd was about developing races of people in Africa in a way where they can live side by side without conflict.

The behaviour of the police and security forces at times was poor - and this has come to light moreso in more recent times and isn't excusable by me in any way - but I think South Africa was a better place under Apartheid.

If applied correctly and could - and did - work.

When it was used as a stick to beat down races from the Zulus to the Xhosa then yes, it was not a good thing.

Take for example the cover up of the killing of Steven Biko.
Now Biko did himself absolutely no favours by refusing to carry his ID, refusing to answer questions from the Police and then refusing to sit down in the interrogation.
Now it doesn't excuse the beating he received, it doesn't excuse Jimmy Kruger making light of his death with jokes - but a great deal of the troubles in the 1960s - 1980s can be apportioned to both sides.
Not just the Afrikaners.

Quote:

but I think South Africa was a better place under Apartheid.

Sure you do.  It was a far better for whitey who subjugated and made the majority subservient, less human than the arrogant.

Aussie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 7:38pm:

Quote: but I think South Africa was a better place under Apartheid. Sure you do.  It was a far better for whitey who subjugated and made the majority subservient, less human than the arrogant.

See my post in another thread about taking my comment completely out of context.

Further down the post (and not quoted)


Quote:

When it was used as a stick to beat down races from the Zulus to the Xhosa then yes, it was not a good thing.

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:17pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 3:44pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:39pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:35am: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know? Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you. Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers. Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter. No, Andrei. Self confident people don't have to be arrogant, they allow their abilities to speak for themselves. Arrogance isn't self confidence, but the opposite. Read & learn, van der grasshopper.

Correct and correct.....

:)

Aussie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 4:20pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 3:44pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:39pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:35am: Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:15am: Andrei, if you are setting yourself up as the grammar police, then perhaps you could tell our new member that not only is his nic incorrect, but so is the title of this thread. I am not the grammar police Peter, merely pointing out that he is incredibly thick and I think people as stupid as him and with such an appalling command of the English language, should probably not post on a public forum. It only opens them to ridicule. Best to feel stupid and remain silent, than open your mouth and confirm it, and all that you know? Unfortunately for people like yourself, others whom you consider "thick" have as much right to express their opinions as you. Your arrogance is sadly one of the qualities you inherited from your forefathers. Arrogance is merely a form of self-confidence Peter. In your case Mr Hicks, it is clear that the arrogance you display is borne out of a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others.

But MORE likely from suffering an inferiority complex.....

:)

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When it was used as a stick to beat down races from the Zulus to the Xhosa then yes, it was not a good thing.

Okay, Mr Hicks, but for whom was SA a far better place under Apartheid, given it was used as said stick?

Aussie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 7:51pm:

Quote: When it was used as a stick to beat down races from the Zulus to the Xhosa then yes, it was not a good thing. Okay, Mr Hicks, but for whom was SA a far better place under Apartheid, given it was used as said stick?

Everyone when applied correctly and why it was put in place.

Look at the utter sh1tbox that Africa is and what has become of a country like Rhodesia?

Name me a single well run country in Africa?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 7:59pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:51pm: Quote: When it was used as a stick to beat down races from the Zulus to the Xhosa then yes, it was not a good thing. Okay, Mr Hicks, but for whom was SA a far better place under Apartheid, given it was used as said stick? Everyone when applied correctly and why it was put in place. Look at the utter sh1tbox that Africa is and what has become of a country like Rhodesia? Name me a single well run country in Africa?

I'm no expert but how about Sierra Leone, Senegal, Malawi and Cape Verde?

Aussie wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:06pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:59pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:51pm: Quote: When it was used as a stick to beat down races from the Zulus to the Xhosa then yes, it was not a good thing. Okay, Mr Hicks, but for whom was SA a far better place under Apartheid, given it was used as said stick? Everyone when applied correctly and why it was put in place. Look at the utter sh1tbox that Africa is and what has become of a country like Rhodesia? Name me a single well run country in Africa? I'm no expert but how about Sierra Leone, Senegal, Malawi and Cape Verde?

Well I could deal with each in turn if you like but what made you say Sierra Leone?

It has been in civil war since 1968.

Between 1991 and 2001, the UN estimates 500,000 civilians have been hacked to death by the varying warring factions.
Kabbah was put in charge in 1998 (by Nigeria but allegedly democratically) - then 5 of the most senior officers were executed in public for attempting to overthrow him.
By 2000 the UN had to send in peacekeepers to restore order as chaos reigned in the streets of Freetown.

The current President Koroma was elected in 2008.
In that election his supporters clashed with the Opposition supporters and beat each other with bats in the street.
His supporters then turned on French and US journalists covering the election and dragged them out into the street and beat them with bats and assaulted them.

It has little to no healthcare system, a GDP per capita of just $613 despite being resource rich and youth unemployment of 55% and 71% of the people live below the poverty line.

Well run?

Standard black Africa.

Thanks jungle Jim, but I am sure Aussie could have looked up wiki himself if he'd wanted to know such crap.
I do love it how you write this poo as though it is knowledge though. ;D ;D ;D

If I want the opinion of some backward retarded Aussie from Dubbo, I will rattle a tin.

Back you go to writing about socks and Abbott please.

You know bugger all about bugger all outside of this sh1tbox of a country.

skippy. wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:41pm:

Thanks jungle Jim, but I am sure Aussie could have looked up wiki himself if he'd wanted to know such crap. I do love it how you write this poo as though it is knowledge though. ;D ;D ;D

Quote:

If I want the opinion of some backward retarded Aussie from Dubbo, I will rattle a tin. Back you go to writing about socks and Abbott please. You know bugger all about bugger all outside of this sh1tbox of a country.

Gets p!ssed off easily, doesn't he, skip??
Caused by his inferiority complex, no doubt.....

;)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 6:46pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:35pm: The Boer isn't arrogant? C'mon, Andrei, not even you can believe THAT crap. Peter, the Boers built a fantastic country in spite of tremendous adversity and many enemies. It would probably do a lot of people (you included) no harm to research a little on the history from the Great Trek to the turn of the century wars to the Jameson Raid to the concentration camps - it will give you an understanding of what made up the Afrikaner mindset. A hardened race of people who have had to be so to survive.

So hard, they evacuated to become accountants, drink Starbucks and wear cheap toupees and suits from Kelly Country.

The Afrikan mindset.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:45pm:

If I want the opinion of some backward retarded Aussie from Dubbo, I will rattle a tin. Back you go to writing about socks and Abbott please. You know bugger all about bugger all outside of this sh1tbox of a country.

Ah. Loyalty.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 7:01pm:

both cods. But I am an Aussie by birth, I am more loyal to Australia than South Africa. In fact I hold no loyalty there, because i think what has happened in recent years there is an outrage and I want no part of it.

If you are a Aussie by birth prove it. Put up your birth certificate cross out your personal details just leave in where you were born and your birth date.

Karnal wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 12:39pm:

Thoughts?

It is to be expected from such socialists (labor).

John S wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:49pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:01pm: both cods. But I am an Aussie by birth, I am more loyal to Australia than South Africa. In fact I hold no loyalty there, because i think what has happened in recent years there is an outrage and I want no part of it. If you are a Aussie by birth prove it. Put up your birth certificate cross out your personal details just leave in where you were born and your birth date.

Have you forgot we all have been immigrants before? It shouldn't matter if your born in Australia or not, If you are willing to fight for this country like my father was (born english became Australian citizen later wounded in Vietnam) or willing to serve this country the best you can you are as Aussie as the next bloke. With a rapidly ageing population and a weakening economy we should be welcoming as many immigrants who are willing to serve this country the best they can.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:37pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 8:06pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:59pm: Aussie wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:51pm: Quote: When it was used as a stick to beat down races from the Zulus to the Xhosa then yes, it was not a good thing. Okay, Mr Hicks, but for whom was SA a far better place under Apartheid, given it was used as said stick? Everyone when applied correctly and why it was put in place. Look at the utter sh1tbox that Africa is and what has become of a country like Rhodesia? Name me a single well run country in Africa? I'm no expert but how about Sierra Leone, Senegal, Malawi and Cape Verde? Well I could deal with each in turn if you like but what made you say Sierra Leone? It has been in civil war since 1968. Between 1991 and 2001, the UN estimates 500,000 civilians have been hacked to death by the varying warring factions. Kabbah was put in charge in 1998 (by Nigeria but allegedly democratically) - then 5 of the most senior officers were executed in public for attempting to overthrow him. By 2000 the UN had to send in peacekeepers to restore order as chaos reigned in the streets of Freetown. The current President Koroma was elected in 2008. In that election his supporters clashed with the Opposition supporters and beat each other with bats in the street. His supporters then turned on French and US journalists covering the election and dragged them out into the street and beat them with bats and assaulted them. It has little to no healthcare system, a GDP per capita of just $613 despite being resource rich and youth unemployment of 55% and 71% of the people live below the poverty line. Well run? Standard black Africa.

There is no country blacks run I want to live in.
None at all.

Whites manage things MUCH better.
Germany, Sweden, Finland, Austria, Australia.
The best coutrise are run by whites and populated mainly by whites.

Pantheon wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 11:35pm:

John S wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:49pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:01pm: both cods. But I am an Aussie by birth, I am more loyal to Australia than South Africa. In fact I hold no loyalty there, because i think what has happened in recent years there is an outrage and I want no part of it. If you are a Aussie by birth prove it. Put up your birth certificate cross out your personal details just leave in where you were born and your birth date. Have you forgot we all have been immigrants before? It shouldn't matter if your born in Australia or not, If you are willing to fight for this country like my father was (born english became Australian citizen later wounded in Vietnam) or willing to serve this country the best you can you are as Aussie as the next bloke. With a rapidly ageing population and a weakening economy we should be welcoming as many immigrants who are willing to serve this country the best they can.

I am not against immigrants they help to build this country, I just can't stand buggers and leaches like andrei

you only been here 5 minutes ahovking and you don't know all about andrei history

He says he was born in Melbourne but has never denial that he was born in South Africa when it is put to him and he was brought up in England went to school and university in England.

Come out here and work for about 2 years saying that he earned $150000 a year but never paid his right amount of taxes, he had most of his money paid into his company in the Channel Island to avoid paying taxes.

When he was here he was driving around on a International License so he won't have to paid any speeding or parking fines. you can only drive on a International License for 3 months and if you are not a resident of the country.

He doesn't vote in Australia or has he got a Australia passport.

He brought a house while he was here and when he left he rented it out and then he sold it about 2 months ago and never paid any capital gains tax as the house was own by his company in the Channel Island.

While he was here he put his hand out for everything he could even apply for the dole when he was put off from his job here.

He now lives in America and has stuff all to do with Australia, he always bitching when the government gives money out to lower income people and not middle income people or they take money or rebates off middle income people.

Like I said I will support all immigrants if they pull their weight I just don't like buggers and that all he is