all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased

so its your contribution to the Boat People problems..good work..

well its also to deter smoking because its bad for your health??? ::) so they said.

Don't smoke, don't care.

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:15pm:

all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased so its your contribution to the Boat People problems..good work.. well its also to deter smoking because its bad for your health??? ::) so they said.

Its simple....its a voluntary tax so all people need to do is not smoke if they dont want to pay tax on tobacco.

adelcrow wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:18pm:

cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:15pm: all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased so its your contribution to the Boat People problems..good work.. well its also to deter smoking because its bad for your health??? ::) so they said. Its simple....its a voluntary tax so all people need to do is not smoke if they dont want to pay tax on tobacco.

of course.... and if they did????? what then?..

they cannot manage on what they get now..

if they lost even half what smoking brings them in..


then what?????

just another whopping BIG HOLE.

Boat people are not a problem. What the problem is is the opportunism of the old parties to turn a humanitarian issue to a xenophobic beat up just to garnish votes.

As for increasing tax on something unhealthy cods. You agree with taxing smoking yet not carbon pollution.


Oh to be a hypocrite.

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:21pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:18pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:15pm: all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased so its your contribution to the Boat People problems..good work.. well its also to deter smoking because its bad for your health??? ::) so they said. Its simple....its a voluntary tax so all people need to do is not smoke if they dont want to pay tax on tobacco. of course.... and if they did????? what then?.. they cannot manage on what they get now.. if they lost even half what smoking brings them in.. then what????? just another whopping BIG HOLE.

I'll let you know when it happens but until then its a good way to get extra money to pay for the rising costs tobacco contributes to society and the health system.
Without tobacco there would be many billions of dollars freed up for important public spending like education and infrastructure not to mention the many billions smoking costs businesses in lost productivity.

adelcrow wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:24pm:

cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:21pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:18pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:15pm: all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased so its your contribution to the Boat People problems..good work.. well its also to deter smoking because its bad for your health??? ::) so they said. Its simple....its a voluntary tax so all people need to do is not smoke if they dont want to pay tax on tobacco. of course.... and if they did????? what then?.. they cannot manage on what they get now.. if they lost even half what smoking brings them in.. then what????? just another whopping BIG HOLE. I'll let you know when it happens but until then its a good way to get extra money to pay for the rising costs tobacco contributes to society and the health system. Without tobacco there would be many billions of dollars freed up for important public spending like education and infrastructure not to mention the many billions smoking costs businesses in lost productivity.

so like mudd you dont have a plan B...

the money wont be spent here adel it will go to PNG.. for years and years I imagine.....

I doubt and I really mean this.. I am a non smoker but I doubt smoking costs the country anywhere near what alcohol does???

it most certainly doesnt jump in a car and kill..

and it doesnt cause hangovers.

I am not in favor so dont get me wrong..b ut it is legal...so I find the double standards bizarre to be honest

I'm down to only 20 a day, now.

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:29pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:24pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:21pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:18pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:15pm: all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased so its your contribution to the Boat People problems..good work.. well its also to deter smoking because its bad for your health??? ::) so they said. Its simple....its a voluntary tax so all people need to do is not smoke if they dont want to pay tax on tobacco. of course.... and if they did????? what then?.. they cannot manage on what they get now.. if they lost even half what smoking brings them in.. then what????? just another whopping BIG HOLE. I'll let you know when it happens but until then its a good way to get extra money to pay for the rising costs tobacco contributes to society and the health system. Without tobacco there would be many billions of dollars freed up for important public spending like education and infrastructure not to mention the many billions smoking costs businesses in lost productivity. so like mudd you dont have a plan B... the money wont be spent here adel it will go to PNG.. for years and years I imagine..... I doubt and I really mean this.. I am a non smoker but I doubt smoking costs the country anywhere near what alcohol does??? it most certainly doesnt jump in a car and kill.. and it doesnt cause hangovers. I am not in favor so dont get me wrong..b ut it is legal...so I find the double standards bizarre to be honest

I dont need a plan B coz Im not ever planning to run for politics. Are you suggesting that if Mr Abbott wins power that taxation isnt going to increase?
Coz Im telling you that whoever wins there will be massive cuts and across the board tax increases so you better get used to it now.

adelcrow wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:42pm:

cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:29pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:24pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:21pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:18pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:15pm: all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased so its your contribution to the Boat People problems..good work.. well its also to deter smoking because its bad for your health??? ::) so they said. Its simple....its a voluntary tax so all people need to do is not smoke if they dont want to pay tax on tobacco. of course.... and if they did????? what then?.. they cannot manage on what they get now.. if they lost even half what smoking brings them in.. then what????? just another whopping BIG HOLE. I'll let you know when it happens but until then its a good way to get extra money to pay for the rising costs tobacco contributes to society and the health system. Without tobacco there would be many billions of dollars freed up for important public spending like education and infrastructure not to mention the many billions smoking costs businesses in lost productivity. so like mudd you dont have a plan B... the money wont be spent here adel it will go to PNG.. for years and years I imagine..... I doubt and I really mean this.. I am a non smoker but I doubt smoking costs the country anywhere near what alcohol does??? it most certainly doesnt jump in a car and kill.. and it doesnt cause hangovers. I am not in favor so dont get me wrong..b ut it is legal...so I find the double standards bizarre to be honest I dont need a plan B coz Im not ever planning to run for politics. Are you suggesting that if Mr Abbott wins power that taxation isnt going to increase? Coz Im telling you that whoever wins there will be massive cuts and across the board tax increases so you better get used to it now.

no but you might have had an idea ..never mind....I am sure Abbott is laughing all the way to the bank.. no one lowers taxes.. especially ones they claim is for YOUR benefit.. ;D ;D

yes we  all know we are in for torrid times

GUESS WHO WE CAN THANK? >:(

matty wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:36pm:

I'm down to only 20 a day, now.

oh matty surely you dont want to give this man more tax to burn do your????

give them up whilst you are still ALIVE

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:50pm:

matty wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:36pm: I'm down to only 20 a day, now. oh matty surely you dont want to give this man more tax to burn do your???? give them up whilst you are still ALIVE

Thats a lot of fags for a 15 yr old  :D

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:49pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:42pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:29pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:24pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:21pm: adelcrow wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:18pm: cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:15pm: all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased so its your contribution to the Boat People problems..good work.. well its also to deter smoking because its bad for your health??? ::) so they said. Its simple....its a voluntary tax so all people need to do is not smoke if they dont want to pay tax on tobacco. of course.... and if they did????? what then?.. they cannot manage on what they get now.. if they lost even half what smoking brings them in.. then what????? just another whopping BIG HOLE. I'll let you know when it happens but until then its a good way to get extra money to pay for the rising costs tobacco contributes to society and the health system. Without tobacco there would be many billions of dollars freed up for important public spending like education and infrastructure not to mention the many billions smoking costs businesses in lost productivity. so like mudd you dont have a plan B... the money wont be spent here adel it will go to PNG.. for years and years I imagine..... I doubt and I really mean this.. I am a non smoker but I doubt smoking costs the country anywhere near what alcohol does??? it most certainly doesnt jump in a car and kill.. and it doesnt cause hangovers. I am not in favor so dont get me wrong..b ut it is legal...so I find the double standards bizarre to be honest I dont need a plan B coz Im not ever planning to run for politics. Are you suggesting that if Mr Abbott wins power that taxation isnt going to increase? Coz Im telling you that whoever wins there will be massive cuts and across the board tax increases so you better get used to it now. no but you might have had an idea ..never mind....I am sure Abbott is laughing all the way to the bank.. no one lowers taxes.. especially ones they claim is for YOUR benefit.. ;D ;D yes we  all know we are in for torrid times GUESS WHO WE CAN THANK? >:(

Kevin Rudd slashed over 30 billion in taxes in 2007 and drove interest rates down to make housing $1000's a month cheaper.

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:50pm:

matty wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:36pm: I'm down to only 20 a day, now. oh matty surely you dont want to give this man more tax to burn do your???? give them up whilst you are still ALIVE

No, I was just being stupid cods. Frankly, I don't see why anybody would start smoking.

adelcrow wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:53pm:

cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:50pm: matty wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:36pm: I'm down to only 20 a day, now. oh matty surely you dont want to give this man more tax to burn do your???? give them up whilst you are still ALIVE Thats a lot of fags for a 15 yr old  :D

;D ;D ;D

You don't happen to smoke do you Cods?

I have a feeling that adel, John and skippy all like a fag or two.

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:15pm:

all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased so its your contribution to the Boat People problems..good work.. well its also to deter smoking because its bad for your health??? ::) so they said.

Should be doubled again'

Might get my young bloke off 'em.....

:)

Happy for them to significantly hike the tax.

It's good for you to stop.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 8:17pm:

Happy for them to significantly hike the tax. It's good for you to stop.

Just like a decent price on carbon pollution.

____ wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 8:29pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 8:17pm: Happy for them to significantly hike the tax. It's good for you to stop. Just like a decent price on carbon pollution.

Tell the chinks that.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 8:36pm:

____ wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 8:29pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 8:17pm: Happy for them to significantly hike the tax. It's good for you to stop. Just like a decent price on carbon pollution. Tell the chinks that.

Seven different forms currently being tested. The Chinese are way ahead of you.

The tax on cigarettes is already enormous -
possibly 5,000%

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 8:17pm:

Happy for them to significantly hike the tax. It's good for you to stop.

Seriously its all about money. You ppl that judge what others do hop on your bandwagons but what if something you do gets taxed like that? How about alcohol? Junk food? Sugar!? Churches. Churches are bad for you and should be taxed. Oh and pharmaceutical drugs. Better tax those. Make sure anyone that uses arthritis medication is penalised with outrageously high prices.

(no i dont smoke)

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 9:01pm:

The tax on cigarettes is already enormous - possibly 5,000%

Its an addiction and the ppl that are addicted are being penalised.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Sounds like cigarette theft will replace drugs for the on the street dealers.

As the Libs have accepted $3M from the tobacco industry over the past years, surely they must oppose this tax increase to keep their donation coming in?

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/smoking-new-battleground-as-labour-accuses-libs-of-accepting-donations-from-8216big-tobacco8217/story-fnho52ip-1226689218475

What a hypocrite Kevin Rudd, you say your party does not accept donations from big tobacco yet you have no problems big pay rises for politicians funded by a massive taxes on smokers. the bloke better not campaign anywhere near my area because he might just get a thump in the head from me.

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:26am:

What a hypocrite Kevin Rudd, you say your party does not accept donations from big tobacco yet you have no problems big pay rises for politicians funded by a massive taxes on smokers. the bloke better not campaign anywhere near my area because he might just get a thump in the head from me.

Did the Coalition oppose the pay rises?   By the outrage in your posting I guess they must have.   I wonder how Kev and Co pushed it through without bipartisan support?

The Libs are not the ones going round saying they don't accept money from big tobacco are they. If anything Rudd's Team Labor accept more money from smokers as they have introduced more taxes on smokers then anyone. Its called creative accounting. They have been taking notes off Swan I think.

Remember this one?

http://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2009/opinion/turnbull-tax-proposal-has-merit

"Turnbull tax proposal has merit
Tweet 29 May 2009


First published on ABC Online 26 May 2009.

In his response to the budget Malcolm Turnbull proposed a 3 cents per stick tax on cigarettes. This was proposed to fund a gap in the budget that arose through Turnbull’s opposition to abolishing Medicare tax concessions for certain high income citizens."

Wow - put up smoke prices so high income earners are protected.  That would get donations from the Baccy men AND the health Insurance Industry - clever thinking Turnbull!

matty wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 7:38pm:

I have a feeling that adel, John and skippy all like a fag or two.

yes, but unfortunately for you , you aren't the fag we like.

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:26am:

What a hypocrite Kevin Rudd, you say your party does not accept donations from big tobacco yet you have no problems big pay rises for politicians funded by a massive taxes on smokers. the bloke better not campaign anywhere near my area because he might just get a thump in the head from me.

you righties are getting desperate ......pathetic

Just be thankful Rudd isn't putting a tax on stupidity ... all you lefties would be in the highest bracket  :D

Most smokers are Rudd-Labor voters?

Labors motto “ Tax and spend “

labor are corrupt wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 9:12am:

Labors motto “ Tax and spend “

tax and waste more like..

red baron wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 7:13am:

Sounds like cigarette theft will replace drugs for the on the street dealers.

by all accounts illegal tobacco is already BIG business here.. so expect it to get worse..

and the hard smokers wont give it up so there goes more bread money on smokes..

But labor gives free smokes to asylum seekers.

I thought cig sellers were suppose to cover up their stock from public view.

See heaps with their smoke stock in full view. Why is this law being ignored ... because its occurring in places like western sydney?

If illicit drugs were legalised then they too could be heavily taxed and so fund LabLibs attack on vulnerable peoples.

____ wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:11am:

I thought cig sellers were suppose to cover up their stock from public view. See heaps with their smoke stock in full view. Why is this law being ignored ... because its occurring in places like western sydney?

they are under cover in ACT and they will be underground.

____ wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:11am:

I thought cig sellers were suppose to cover up their stock from public view. See heaps with their smoke stock in full view. Why is this law being ignored ... because its occurring in places like western sydney?

They ARE supposed to cover their stock. If the ones you've seen are in plain view (other than when the shutter/cupboard doors are open to remove or place items in there), you should report it.

labor are corrupt wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:08am:

But labor gives free smokes to asylum seekers.

Really? Got any evidence of that or are you making it up?

Even if they were though why would you begrudge ppl with nothing who are being incarcerated despite not committing any crimes a smoke?

SOB

cods wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 6:15pm:

all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased

Not enough though.

Why doesn't the Govt. be fair about this & put a massive tax on all junk food?

Obesity probably kills a lot more people than cigarettes.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 10:29am:

cods wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 6:15pm: all you smokers must be proud tomorrow the Tax gets increased Not enough though.

really I heard another $5 a pkt??...wow its that long since I smoked I have no idea what they cost now.... it has to be a rich mans habit surely?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 5:27pm:

Why doesn't the Govt. be fair about this & put a massive tax on all junk food? Obesity probably kills a lot more people than cigarettes.

they most certainly could do with putting a massive tax on alcohol a mother picking up her kids from school was 7 times over the limit.. if she hadnt had an accident [kids are ok] no one would have been any the wiser.

yes a whopping big tax on alcohol.. just to make it a level playing field.

as for fast food you do realize thats all some kids eat dont you???

cods wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 5:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:27pm: Why doesn't the Govt. be fair about this & put a massive tax on all junk food? Obesity probably kills a lot more people than cigarettes. they most certainly could do with putting a massive tax on alcohol a mother picking up her kids from school was 7 times over the limit.. if she hadnt had an accident [kids are ok] no one would have been any the wiser. yes a whopping big tax on alcohol.. just to make it a level playing field. as for fast food you do realize thats all some kids eat dont you???

It's only fair using the Govts. logic.

John Smith wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:54am:

matty wrote on Jul 31st, 2013 at 7:38pm: I have a feeling that adel, John and skippy all like a fag or two. yes, but unfortunately for you , you aren't the fag we like.

Your posts suggest otherwise.

Why would anybody smoke, anyway? Why do something that costs money and ruins your health?

matty wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:29pm:

Why would anybody smoke, anyway? Why do something that costs money and ruins your health?

stop eating fast food. stop drinking.

matty wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:29pm:

Why would anybody smoke, anyway? Why do something that costs money and ruins your health?

typical leftard supporter's response .

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 1:21am:

matty wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 8:29pm: Why would anybody smoke, anyway? Why do something that costs money and ruins your health? stop eating fast food. stop drinking.

I don't, but it's okay to drink and eat fast food in moderation. Smoking is bad in whatever amount.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2013 at 1:25am:

matty wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 8:29pm: Why would anybody smoke, anyway? Why do something that costs money and ruins your health? typical leftard supporter's response .

Yes, sprint, I am a big lefty.