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Message started by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am

Title: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:06am

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


More importantly, does anyone care whether she gets released early or not??? She was stupid enough to do the crime, so she must do the time.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Kat on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:16am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:06am:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


More importantly, does anyone care whether she gets released early or not??? She was stupid enough to do the crime, so she must do the time.



Most decent people care.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Greens_Win on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:54am
A BRITISH woman has described her ordeal in Bali's notorious Kerobokan Prison, the same jail where convicted Australian drug smuggler Schapelle Corby and the Bali Nine are serving time.
Rachel Dougall said she suffered savaged beatings within days of beginning a year-long sentence for drug-related crimes.

Dougall, 40, told the Daily Mail that she had a nervous breakdown after being locked up with drug addicts, HIV-positive inmates and sexually aggressive lesbians in a tiny cell at the prison, nicknamed "Hotel K".


http://www.news.com.au/world-news/uk-woman-rachel-dougall-describes-year-long-ordeal-in-balis-kerobokan-prison/story-fndir2ev-1226687219033

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Spot of Borg on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:12am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:06am:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


More importantly, does anyone care whether she gets released early or not??? She was stupid enough to do the crime, so she must do the time.


Seriously - if someone was going to smuggle that amount of drugs there (when most drugs supposedly come from there) they would @ least attempt to hide them.

SOB


Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by True Blue... on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:34am
I was wondering about Schapelle around a week back...

I hate drugs... so don't get me wrong...

but I feel she has done the time and needs to come home...

go to Bali... the Locals are selling any sort of drug on every corner and not getting locked up...

so where's the Justice?

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:03am

True Blue... wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:34am:
I was wondering about Schapelle around a week back...

I hate drugs... so don't get me wrong...

but I feel she has done the time and needs to come home...

go to Bali... the Locals are selling any sort of drug on every corner and not getting locked up...

so where's the Justice?


Not in Indonesia that's for sure.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by philperth2010 on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:13am

Quote:
Questioned by Corby's lawyers, Winata denied that customs officers had slit open the internal drug bag before Corby collected the boogie board. Her lawyers, who inspected the bag, said it had been partly cut open by a blunt instrument, perhaps a key.

When the bags were presented in court, four months after Corby's arrest, the internal bag was instantly noticeable because the bottom was sealed with black tape.

Asked to show the position of the drugs bag when he found it, Winata placed it upright in the outside bag, with the taped end down - reversing the positions shown by the customs photographs. Questioned by defence lawyers, he insisted he had not made a mistake.

Winata might not have been aware of the photographs. But the prosecutor, Ida Bagus Nyoman Wiswantanu, was. They are contained in the brief of evidence submitted by police. He did not question Winata's answers.


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/03/04/1109700677359.html

Who would pack drugs in an air tight space bag with a bloody hole in it.....If Bali Customs did not put the hole in the bag then who did.....It is inconceivable to believe that anyone would pack drugs in this manner.....There is also the question about why no one smelled the drugs before the customs counter.....If the smell was that strong then the cargo bay of the plane would have reeked of pot???

>:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:14am
Bali is a hell hole.
Anyone who goes there is an idiot.

Schapelle is innocent & should be released.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by philperth2010 on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:21am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:14am:
Bali is a hell hole.
Anyone who goes there is an idiot.

Schapelle is innocent & should be released.


I agree!!!

>:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:22am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:14am:
Bali is a hell hole.
Anyone who goes there is an idiot.

Schapelle is innocent & should be released.


Unfortunately for Schapelle the drugs were found in her bag...[which makes her 'guilty' in Indonesia or most anywhere else in the world]...no matter who put the drugs in her bag.

It's her seemingly 'racist' and 'religionist' sentence that's the outrage.

Yes, her first mistake was ever setting foot in Indonesia [and Asia] in the first place.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by corporate_whitey on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:51am
Schapelle Corby will be released when her sentence for drug offenses is concluded.  I hope by the time she is released that Corby has used her time productively to become a better, more decent, caring and moral person...

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by cods on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:57am
not another Corby thread....give us a break we are having shoot outs on the streets of Sydney every day thanks to drugs.... why is a drug related thread on this board??...


Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by ian on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:33am

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?

Dont know. Wonder why we havent heard anything about the hundreds of other australians in overseas jails. Anyone would think we dont care about them.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:04am
I always thought she was quite decent looking bird when she went to jail.

Then I always had an attraction to the more bogany type girls - sort of want what you're not used to kind of thing I guess?

She's looking a bit ropey now, I guess thats what a decade of Indonesian food will do to you eh?

I hope her half-brother is proud of himself.

You know, the one who was travelling with her, turned around and fled the country same day she was arrested and has since been sent to jail for beating a man with an iron bar over a drug deal....

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:04am

corporate_whitey wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:51am:
Schapelle Corby will be released when her sentence for drug offenses is concluded.  I hope by the time she is released that Corby has used her time productively to become a better, more decent, caring and moral person...


She's gone mad, tormented beyond tolerable.
Chases imaginary ducks around the cell block ceiling etc.
Still they persecute her.

She's entitled to parole...our govt should make sure she gets it.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:07am

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:04am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:51am:
Schapelle Corby will be released when her sentence for drug offenses is concluded.  I hope by the time she is released that Corby has used her time productively to become a better, more decent, caring and moral person...


She's gone mad, tormented beyond tolerable.
Chases imaginary ducks around the cell block ceiling etc.
Still they persecute her.

She's entitled to parole...our govt should make sure she gets it.


How would you feel if the Indonesian Government demanded an Indonesian man in a Sydney jail was released early?

The AU Government does not decide laws or releases outside of Australia.


Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by ian on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:09am

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:04am:

She's gone mad, tormented beyond tolerable.
Chases imaginary ducks around the cell block ceiling etc.
Still they persecute her.

She's entitled to parole...our govt should make sure she gets it.
watch how quick she recovers when she does get released, it will be a miracle cure  ;)

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by RightSadFred on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:15am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:06am:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


More importantly, does anyone care whether she gets released early or not??? She was stupid enough to do the crime, so she must do the time.


Armchair_Politician

I await the day a drug trafficker admits to what they do when they are caught.

No idea of what is in her mind but based on the objective facts, she is guilty and we can learn from Indonesia on how to treat drug traffickers. I care as much about the plight of a drug trafficker as much as I care about about the NSW ALP.




Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by John Smith on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:17am

Kat wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:06am:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


More importantly, does anyone care whether she gets released early or not??? She was stupid enough to do the crime, so she must do the time.



Most decent people care.


Nope, I'm a decent person & I really couldn't give a rats ar$e about her .... she knew what she was doing ... now it's time to pay the piper

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by RightSadFred on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:19am

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:04am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:51am:
Schapelle Corby will be released when her sentence for drug offenses is concluded.  I hope by the time she is released that Corby has used her time productively to become a better, more decent, caring and moral person...


She's gone mad, tormented beyond tolerable.
Chases imaginary ducks around the cell block ceiling etc.
Still they persecute her.

She's entitled to parole...our govt should make sure she gets it.


bambu

The whole family looks like nut jobs, they got what they deserved the way they carried on with the Indonesian justice system.

It seems many people assume that you are subject to the same legal system as here or even more tolerant than here which is very hard to find.


Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by ian on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:29am
The Indos went easy on her, she could have got the DP.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:32am

John Smith wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:17am:

Kat wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:06am:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


More importantly, does anyone care whether she gets released early or not??? She was stupid enough to do the crime, so she must do the time.



Most decent people care.


Nope, I'm a decent person & I really couldn't give a rats ar$e about her .... she knew what she was doing ... now it's time to pay the piper


I dont think it was her drugs.
Her half-brother though is as guilty as sin.

He has record up and down the QLD coast as long as your arm for drugs and violent offences and turns around on his heels and scarpers same day.

He has since been arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and possession of Category A narcotics....

I think she genuinely didn't pack them.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by John Smith on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:39am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:32am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:17am:

Kat wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 6:06am:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


More importantly, does anyone care whether she gets released early or not??? She was stupid enough to do the crime, so she must do the time.



Most decent people care.


Nope, I'm a decent person & I really couldn't give a rats ar$e about her .... she knew what she was doing ... now it's time to pay the piper


I dont think it was her drugs.
Her half-brother though is as guilty as sin.

He has record up and down the QLD coast as long as your arm for drugs and violent offences and turns around on his heels and scarpers same day.

He has since been arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and possession of Category A narcotics....

I think she genuinely didn't pack them.



I actually agree . I think it was her brothers drugs as well. However I don't think she was as innocent as she pretends to be. She knew they were there. How could she not. It's a bit hard to miss a bulge out of the side of your body board bag when you take it off the conveyor belt isn't it? Body boards are rather flat. As is normal with these people they assume that everyone else is an idiot and they are genius' . Did they really think no one would notice?

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by John Smith on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:41am

ian wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:09am:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:04am:

She's gone mad, tormented beyond tolerable.
Chases imaginary ducks around the cell block ceiling etc.
Still they persecute her.

She's entitled to parole...our govt should make sure she gets it.
watch how quick she recovers when she does get released, it will be a miracle cure  ;)


and just watch all the offers from ACA and Zoo weekly.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by cods on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:42am

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:04am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:51am:
Schapelle Corby will be released when her sentence for drug offenses is concluded.  I hope by the time she is released that Corby has used her time productively to become a better, more decent, caring and moral person...


She's gone mad, tormented beyond tolerable.
Chases imaginary ducks around the cell block ceiling etc.
Still they persecute her.

She's entitled to parole...our govt should make sure she gets it.





she broke other peoples laws....

we have no right to judge other people when we do the complete opposite..

jail for drug running is a joke in this country and every one knows it.

at the moment Sydney is like a mini Chicago in the 30s and its all about drugs.. they thumb their noses at our laws....

so some other country is tough on drugs well done I say..

it isnt as if they DONT WARN ANYONE IS IT?...

she will come home write a book and make a fortune its tough I agree but its their laws and justice who knows it didnt stop the Bali 9 but it may have stopped a lot of others.. we will never know will we..

I feel more sorry for all those families dealing with losing someone to drug ov er doses to be honest....

take a look at the ex swimmer..Scott Miller if you want to see a shining example of what drugs can do.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by muso on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:48am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:32am:
I dont think it was her drugs.
Her half-brother though is as guilty as sin.

He has record up and down the QLD coast as long as your arm for drugs and violent offences and turns around on his heels and scarpers same day.

He has since been arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and possession of Category A narcotics....

I think she genuinely didn't pack them.


The whole family are into it including her father, her sister Mercedes and two of her brothers/ half brothers. I'd be surprised if she didn't know about it.  Why would anybody be so stupid? People do all kinds of stupid things.  The drug surveillance in Indonesia used to be very hit and miss. I've been through there a few times and at the time Corby was arrested they didn't have any sophisticated equipment for drugs at Bali Airport.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schapelle_Corby#Family_background_and_context

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:58am

cods wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:42am:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:04am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:51am:
Schapelle Corby will be released when her sentence for drug offenses is concluded.  I hope by the time she is released that Corby has used her time productively to become a better, more decent, caring and moral person...


She's gone mad, tormented beyond tolerable.
Chases imaginary ducks around the cell block ceiling etc.
Still they persecute her.

She's entitled to parole...our govt should make sure she gets it.





she broke other peoples laws....

we have no right to judge other people when we do the complete opposite..

jail for drug running is a joke in this country and every one knows it.

at the moment Sydney is like a mini Chicago in the 30s and its all about drugs.. they thumb their noses at our laws....

so some other country is tough on drugs well done I say..

it isnt as if they DONT WARN ANYONE IS IT?...

she will come home write a book and make a fortune its tough I agree but its their laws and justice who knows it didnt stop the Bali 9 but it may have stopped a lot of others.. we will never know will we..

I feel more sorry for all those families dealing with losing someone to drug ov er doses to be honest....

take a look at the ex swimmer..Scott Miller if you want to see a shining example of what drugs can do.



Maybe someone broke other people's laws for her.

We have every right to judge Indonesia...it happily takes our money and in return treats us with utter contempt.

She can write a book, but all the proceeds will be seized as "proceeds of crime".

Drug users knock on the illegal drug dealers' doors, buy the illegal drugs, consume the illegal drugs willingly...not like they haven't been warned...and some die or get maimed for life., all their own fault 'personal responsibility'.

The drug trade is a sad affair all around.

People execution-shredded/hanged for smuggling...and users dying by their own 'hand'.

Interesting that new style heroin in Indonesia, flys in thru windows and lands on tables in piles.
Indonesian cops were watching the Bali9 fom the time their plane landed...but didn't see even one delivery of all that heroin to their rooms.  :)

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:09pm

ian wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:29am:
The Indos went easy on her, she could have got the DP.


True.

In barbaric Singapore she would've been hanged, her head yanked off her shoulders at the end of the long drop...as happened to Aussie Nguyen.

We of course should be returning serve to these barbaric Asian nations, and doing to their criminals here what they're doing to ours.
But we are civilised.
...and fighting with one hand tied behind our back, as usual.

We should be having public executions in Martin Place at lunchtime Fridays of Asian nationals drug smugglers, credit card fraudsters, conmen/conwomen, people-smuggling boat crews etc.
As warnings.
Our sovereign laws.
But we are civilised.

Watch Asian nations squeal like stuck pigs then!
Indonesia goes off its brain when Saudi Arabia chops off the heads of Indonesian citizens...and other nations sentence Indonesians to death.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:12pm
Asian nations as a general rule couldn't give a flying bugger about either animals or the general population.

Be they Asian or Western.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by RightSadFred on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:21pm
John Smith

Its all speculation, justice is meant to be blind i.e. only consider Objective evidence which for Schapelle is prima facia case which provided no defence to, which is not that important given the type of justice system Indonesia has.

He circumstance here or in most countries would end in the same result, tin foil hat theories that they provided were a joke, the only thing that might vary is the length of sentence which I think in Australia are to lenient.

Was there any objective evidence that they were her brothers ?

Sure my understanding from the various pot smokers I know is that the Indo stuff is shite but for Schapelle  not to know about the drugs is a very hard case to defend..... I would call it impossible.

I don't see the big deal, she will come back here write a book about and retire happy.




Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:24pm
If she wrote a book - does it not fail the proceeds from crime law?

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by John Smith on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:27pm
RightSadFred

I realise that and I fully support the courts decision. As mentioned several times, she got of lightly ...

I was merely giving my (ill informed) opinion based on the information I have seen on the media, about her and her family.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD40oD_w_vw
Beheading of an indonesian maid .

Warning; gruesome.

Yes, ol Indon President SBY and other Indonesians flew into a tantrum of outrage.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/saudi-arabia-treatment-foreign-workers

More than 45 foreign maids are facing execution on death row in Saudi Arabia, the Observer has learned, amid growing international outrage at the treatment of migrant workers.

The startling figure emerged after Saudi Arabia beheaded a 24-year-old Sri Lankan domestic worker, Rizana Nafeek, in the face of appeals for clemency from around the world.

The exact number of maids on death row is almost certainly higher, but Saudi authorities do not publish official figures. Indonesians are believed to account for the majority of those facing a death sentence. Human rights groups say 45 Indonesian women are on death row, and five have exhausted the legal process.


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Yes, Indonesia screams in outrage when anyone dares execute an Indonesian, but happily executes the citizens of other nations.
Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, for example.
They look like being next up to be dragged from their cells to the outdoor death chamber and exterminated.
Indonesia execution-homicided people recently.

In barbaric Singapore it's for sure and certain Schapelle would've been dragged kicking and screaming from her cell to the gallows and exterminated.







Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:36pm

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD40oD_w_vw
Beheading of an indonesian maid .

Warning; gruesome.

Yes, ol Indon President SBY and other Indonesians flew into a tantrum of outrage.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/saudi-arabia-treatment-foreign-workers

More than 45 foreign maids are facing execution on death row in Saudi Arabia, the Observer has learned, amid growing international outrage at the treatment of migrant workers.

The startling figure emerged after Saudi Arabia beheaded a 24-year-old Sri Lankan domestic worker, Rizana Nafeek, in the face of appeals for clemency from around the world.

The exact number of maids on death row is almost certainly higher, but Saudi authorities do not publish official figures. Indonesians are believed to account for the majority of those facing a death sentence. Human rights groups say 45 Indonesian women are on death row, and five have exhausted the legal process.


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Yes, Indonesia screams in outrage when anyone dares execute an Indonesian, but happily executes the citizens of other nations.
Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, for example.
They look like being next up to be dragged from their cells to the outdoor death chamber and exterminated.
Indonesia execution-homicided people recently.

In barbaric Singapore it's for sure and certain Schapelle would've been dragged kicking and screaming from her cell to the gallows and exterminated.






bugger them.
Those pair of pr1cks deserve it.

Think of all the lives ruined on heroin in Australia because c**ts like that bring it into the country.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:58pm

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


Write her a letter bambu seeing as you care so much.
Perhaps the reason why the media has not been reporting is because nothing has changed?
After all, she is a convicted criminal serving out her gaol sentence.
She's a big .00008 on the giveafrackometer scale I'm afraid.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:04pm

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD40oD_w_vw
Beheading of an indonesian maid .

Warning; gruesome.

Yes, ol Indon President SBY and other Indonesians flew into a tantrum of outrage.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/saudi-arabia-treatment-foreign-workers

More than 45 foreign maids are facing execution on death row in Saudi Arabia, the Observer has learned, amid growing international outrage at the treatment of migrant workers.

The startling figure emerged after Saudi Arabia beheaded a 24-year-old Sri Lankan domestic worker, Rizana Nafeek, in the face of appeals for clemency from around the world.

The exact number of maids on death row is almost certainly higher, but Saudi authorities do not publish official figures. Indonesians are believed to account for the majority of those facing a death sentence. Human rights groups say 45 Indonesian women are on death row, and five have exhausted the legal process.


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Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, for example.
They look like being next up to be dragged from their cells to the outdoor death chamber and exterminated.
Indonesia execution-homicided people recently.


There is no deterrence value in any nations death penalty of it's criminals if it takes decades for that nations justice system to carry out the sentence that was given.
It's time the Indonesians cleaned house and sent a message to those who peddle drugs.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by cods on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:10pm

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:58am:

cods wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:42am:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:04am:

corporate_whitey wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:51am:
Schapelle Corby will be released when her sentence for drug offenses is concluded.  I hope by the time she is released that Corby has used her time productively to become a better, more decent, caring and moral person...


She's gone mad, tormented beyond tolerable.
Chases imaginary ducks around the cell block ceiling etc.
Still they persecute her.

She's entitled to parole...our govt should make sure she gets it.





she broke other peoples laws....

we have no right to judge other people when we do the complete opposite..

jail for drug running is a joke in this country and every one knows it.

at the moment Sydney is like a mini Chicago in the 30s and its all about drugs.. they thumb their noses at our laws....

so some other country is tough on drugs well done I say..

it isnt as if they DONT WARN ANYONE IS IT?...

she will come home write a book and make a fortune its tough I agree but its their laws and justice who knows it didnt stop the Bali 9 but it may have stopped a lot of others.. we will never know will we..

I feel more sorry for all those families dealing with losing someone to drug ov er doses to be honest....

take a look at the ex swimmer..Scott Miller if you want to see a shining example of what drugs can do.



Maybe someone broke other people's laws for her.


you dont know that... its all guess work..
the way I see it bambu they and our authorities know a bit more than we do..


e have every right to judge Indonesia...it happily takes our money and in return treats us with utter contempt.


we hand them over all this money it suits us bambu...we do not have too...and if we do it expecting things in return we will be disappointed


She can write a book, but all the proceeds will be seized as "proceeds of crime".


David Hicks I believe kept his proceeds so there is another precedent!!!! been set..



Drug users knock on the illegal drug dealers' doors, buy the illegal drugs, consume the illegal drugs willingly...not like they haven't been warned...and some die or get maimed for life., all their own fault 'personal responsibility'.

The drug trade is a sad affair all around.



so that means its not the dealers fault brining it into the country its the users fault.. I see



People execution-shredded/hanged for smuggling...and users dying by their own 'hand'.

Interesting that new style heroin in Indonesia, flys in thru windows and lands on tables in piles.
Indonesian cops were watching the Bali9 fom the time their plane landed...but didn't see even one delivery of all that heroin to their rooms.  :)


its called evidence catching them in the act...they try to catch as many as they can..in that case the women that brought it into Bali got away..... to come another day.

bambu I have never been to BAli and have not the slightest intention of going.. but have read there are many many signs up all ov er the place warning people what will happen even death by guns if they break those rules..

its their way of doing things...

we also have our fair share of bent coppers...we are in no position to criticize others because we think their laws are too tough..


dont you think ours are too soft???

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by John Smith on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:22pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:24pm:
If she wrote a book - does it not fail the proceeds from crime law?


I think that only applies if the crime and conviction are in Australia ....

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:35pm

cods wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:10pm:
dont you think ours are too soft???


#####

Some are, but most are not.

We are in a position to criticise others, ...Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, China, UAE, especially.
We are civilised, disciples of the UN Decalaration of Human Rights, and our police and courts in general are honest.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by PZ547 on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:14am:
16]Bali is a hell hole.
Anyone who goes there is an idiot.

Schapelle is innocent & should be released
.




This ^

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:47pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:36pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD40oD_w_vw
Beheading of an indonesian maid .

Warning; gruesome.

Yes, ol Indon President SBY and other Indonesians flew into a tantrum of outrage.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/saudi-arabia-treatment-foreign-workers

More than 45 foreign maids are facing execution on death row in Saudi Arabia, the Observer has learned, amid growing international outrage at the treatment of migrant workers.

The startling figure emerged after Saudi Arabia beheaded a 24-year-old Sri Lankan domestic worker, Rizana Nafeek, in the face of appeals for clemency from around the world.

The exact number of maids on death row is almost certainly higher, but Saudi authorities do not publish official figures. Indonesians are believed to account for the majority of those facing a death sentence. Human rights groups say 45 Indonesian women are on death row, and five have exhausted the legal process.


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Yes, Indonesia screams in outrage when anyone dares execute an Indonesian, but happily executes the citizens of other nations.
Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, for example.
They look like being next up to be dragged from their cells to the outdoor death chamber and exterminated.
Indonesia execution-homicided people recently.

In barbaric Singapore it's for sure and certain Schapelle would've been dragged kicking and screaming from her cell to the gallows and exterminated.






bugger them.
Those pair of pr1cks deserve it.

Think of all the lives ruined on heroin in Australia because c**ts like that bring it into the country.


They did wrong...bad crime...but a long jail sentence, especially in Indonesia, is sufficient for them.

Heroin users and other drug users only have themselves to blame for their ruined lives.
They can put their hands up and go into rehab free.

Ahem, state govt's 'heroin injecting room'...where drug dealers arrive in their luxury cars, deliver the users/addicts the drugs, then depart untouched by the cops [the laws were changed].

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:54pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:04pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD40oD_w_vw
Beheading of an indonesian maid .

Warning; gruesome.

Yes, ol Indon President SBY and other Indonesians flew into a tantrum of outrage.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/saudi-arabia-treatment-foreign-workers

More than 45 foreign maids are facing execution on death row in Saudi Arabia, the Observer has learned, amid growing international outrage at the treatment of migrant workers.

The startling figure emerged after Saudi Arabia beheaded a 24-year-old Sri Lankan domestic worker, Rizana Nafeek, in the face of appeals for clemency from around the world.

The exact number of maids on death row is almost certainly higher, but Saudi authorities do not publish official figures. Indonesians are believed to account for the majority of those facing a death sentence. Human rights groups say 45 Indonesian women are on death row, and five have exhausted the legal process.


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Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, for example.
They look like being next up to be dragged from their cells to the outdoor death chamber and exterminated.
Indonesia execution-homicided people recently.


There is no deterrence value in any nations death penalty of it's criminals if it takes decades for that nations justice system to carry out the sentence that was given.
It's time the Indonesians cleaned house and sent a message to those who peddle drugs.



And time we cleaned out our 'friends' book. :)
Cut some of our so-called friends adrift...and cut the phone off.
Australia doesn't need Indonesia for anything, it only thinks it does.

1. Stop giving Indonesia money.
2. Ban all our citizens from travelling to Indonesia, including Bali.
3. Stop all trade with Indonesia, including live animals and food.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by PZ547 on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:55pm
Stop pretending you aren't aware the guy from customs has told the media umpteen times that Schapelle was set-up

A drugs drop that went wrong -- for the scum in customs

Sydney Morning Herald ran a story late last year ... revealed that of the 900 customs employees who'd been tabled in internal reports for various crimes, only 3 were charged

MP went on tv a few weeks ago to say things were going to be 'tightened' up at customs

Numerous books and articles have explained, in triplicate and in terms even retards could understand, that Schapelle was an innocent victim


So how far below retard are those of you still chanting the Paid-For mantra about 'she deserves to be there' ?

Paid to Posts have been mumbling the same mantra online for years, trying to rev up the public


Those who pay the Paid to Posts are soulless lumps of shite

who will NEVER EVER enjoy anthing approaching a bearable afterlife


Those who Post for Pay will spend eternity in blackness paying for the sins


So heap shite on Schapelle all you like, during the BRIEF moment of time you're alive

You'll pay later

And when I pass you, I'll kick molten lava in your eyes


Schapelle is an innocent victim of criminals and louts

and of the three wise monkey type 'judges' they have over there in Bali

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by PZ547 on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:55pm

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:54pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:04pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD40oD_w_vw
Beheading of an indonesian maid .

Warning; gruesome.

Yes, ol Indon President SBY and other Indonesians flew into a tantrum of outrage.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/saudi-arabia-treatment-foreign-workers

More than 45 foreign maids are facing execution on death row in Saudi Arabia, the Observer has learned, amid growing international outrage at the treatment of migrant workers.

The startling figure emerged after Saudi Arabia beheaded a 24-year-old Sri Lankan domestic worker, Rizana Nafeek, in the face of appeals for clemency from around the world.

The exact number of maids on death row is almost certainly higher, but Saudi authorities do not publish official figures. Indonesians are believed to account for the majority of those facing a death sentence. Human rights groups say 45 Indonesian women are on death row, and five have exhausted the legal process.


_________________________________________
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, for example.
They look like being next up to be dragged from their cells to the outdoor death chamber and exterminated.
Indonesia execution-homicided people recently.


There is no deterrence value in any nations death penalty of it's criminals if it takes decades for that nations justice system to carry out the sentence that was given.
It's time the Indonesians cleaned house and sent a message to those who peddle drugs.



And time we cleaned out our 'friends' book. :)
Cut some of our so-called friends adrift...and cut the phone off.
Australia doesn't need Indonesia for anything, it only thinks it does.

1. Stop giving Indonesia money.
2. Ban all our citizens from travelling to Indonesia, including Bali.
3. Stop all trade with Indonesia, including live animals and food.




Good post ^

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by RightSadFred on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:07pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:27pm:
RightSadFred

I realise that and I fully support the courts decision. As mentioned several times, she got of lightly ...

I was merely giving my (ill informed) opinion based on the information I have seen on the media, about her and her family.


John Smith

So you think its hard to pick a pot smoking family ?

The only real speculative evidence is that the family does indeed look like pot smokers but that is not evidence at all.

No doubt the family projection is that of a bunch of misfits and nutjobs, but if that was crime they would lock up all the greens.

I really don't see the point of speculation even by the police ....... the family does look tight and it does appear that Schapelle is either guilty or happy to be the fall bitch...... no doubt the family reputation (if there ever was one) is destroyed and Schapelle will obviously have a book to write.

Why cares as long as justice has been spooned out correctly which as far as I can tell it has.

If the family wanted to throw her brother under the bus it had ample opportunity.









Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:18pm

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:54pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:04pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD40oD_w_vw
Beheading of an indonesian maid .

Warning; gruesome.

Yes, ol Indon President SBY and other Indonesians flew into a tantrum of outrage.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/saudi-arabia-treatment-foreign-workers

More than 45 foreign maids are facing execution on death row in Saudi Arabia, the Observer has learned, amid growing international outrage at the treatment of migrant workers.

The startling figure emerged after Saudi Arabia beheaded a 24-year-old Sri Lankan domestic worker, Rizana Nafeek, in the face of appeals for clemency from around the world.

The exact number of maids on death row is almost certainly higher, but Saudi authorities do not publish official figures. Indonesians are believed to account for the majority of those facing a death sentence. Human rights groups say 45 Indonesian women are on death row, and five have exhausted the legal process.


_________________________________________
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, for example.
They look like being next up to be dragged from their cells to the outdoor death chamber and exterminated.
Indonesia execution-homicided people recently.


There is no deterrence value in any nations death penalty of it's criminals if it takes decades for that nations justice system to carry out the sentence that was given.
It's time the Indonesians cleaned house and sent a message to those who peddle drugs.



And time we cleaned out our 'friends' book. :)
Cut some of our so-called friends adrift...and cut the phone off.
Australia doesn't need Indonesia for anything, it only thinks it does.

1. Stop giving Indonesia money.
2. Ban all our citizens from travelling to Indonesia, including Bali.
3. Stop all trade with Indonesia, including live animals and food.


Foreign policy does not, and never will depend on how criminals are treated.
Nations are above that.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:23pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:18pm:
Foreign policy does not, and never will depend on how criminals are treated.
Nations are above that.


#####

They shouldn't be.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by John Smith on Aug 1st, 2013 at 4:41pm

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:23pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:18pm:
Foreign policy does not, and never will depend on how criminals are treated.
Nations are above that.


#####

They shouldn't be.


so we should jeopardise hundreds of millions in trade, and make enemies of our neighbours, to protect a few drug dealers?

Do you think the drug dealers give a stuff about you?

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Aug 1st, 2013 at 4:45pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:18pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:54pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:04pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD40oD_w_vw
Beheading of an indonesian maid .

Warning; gruesome.

Yes, ol Indon President SBY and other Indonesians flew into a tantrum of outrage.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/saudi-arabia-treatment-foreign-workers

More than 45 foreign maids are facing execution on death row in Saudi Arabia, the Observer has learned, amid growing international outrage at the treatment of migrant workers.

The startling figure emerged after Saudi Arabia beheaded a 24-year-old Sri Lankan domestic worker, Rizana Nafeek, in the face of appeals for clemency from around the world.

The exact number of maids on death row is almost certainly higher, but Saudi authorities do not publish official figures. Indonesians are believed to account for the majority of those facing a death sentence. Human rights groups say 45 Indonesian women are on death row, and five have exhausted the legal process.


_________________________________________
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, for example.
They look like being next up to be dragged from their cells to the outdoor death chamber and exterminated.
Indonesia execution-homicided people recently.


There is no deterrence value in any nations death penalty of it's criminals if it takes decades for that nations justice system to carry out the sentence that was given.
It's time the Indonesians cleaned house and sent a message to those who peddle drugs.



And time we cleaned out our 'friends' book. :)
Cut some of our so-called friends adrift...and cut the phone off.
Australia doesn't need Indonesia for anything, it only thinks it does.

1. Stop giving Indonesia money.
2. Ban all our citizens from travelling to Indonesia, including Bali.
3. Stop all trade with Indonesia, including live animals and food.


Foreign policy does not, and never will depend on how criminals are treated.
Nations are above that.



They should halt live exports to Indonesia.

Not because of their sentencing on criminals but because those barbaric third world pr1cks hack to death animals contrary to literally ever rule in the book.

Asians are dirty fkers who have no regard for animals at all.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:31pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 4:45pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:18pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:54pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:04pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD40oD_w_vw
Beheading of an indonesian maid .

Warning; gruesome.

Yes, ol Indon President SBY and other Indonesians flew into a tantrum of outrage.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/13/saudi-arabia-treatment-foreign-workers

More than 45 foreign maids are facing execution on death row in Saudi Arabia, the Observer has learned, amid growing international outrage at the treatment of migrant workers.

The startling figure emerged after Saudi Arabia beheaded a 24-year-old Sri Lankan domestic worker, Rizana Nafeek, in the face of appeals for clemency from around the world.

The exact number of maids on death row is almost certainly higher, but Saudi authorities do not publish official figures. Indonesians are believed to account for the majority of those facing a death sentence. Human rights groups say 45 Indonesian women are on death row, and five have exhausted the legal process.


_________________________________________
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, for example.
They look like being next up to be dragged from their cells to the outdoor death chamber and exterminated.
Indonesia execution-homicided people recently.


There is no deterrence value in any nations death penalty of it's criminals if it takes decades for that nations justice system to carry out the sentence that was given.
It's time the Indonesians cleaned house and sent a message to those who peddle drugs.



And time we cleaned out our 'friends' book. :)
Cut some of our so-called friends adrift...and cut the phone off.
Australia doesn't need Indonesia for anything, it only thinks it does.

1. Stop giving Indonesia money.
2. Ban all our citizens from travelling to Indonesia, including Bali.
3. Stop all trade with Indonesia, including live animals and food.


Foreign policy does not, and never will depend on how criminals are treated.
Nations are above that.



They should halt live exports to Indonesia.

Not because of their sentencing on criminals but because those barbaric third world pr1cks hack to death animals contrary to literally ever rule in the book.

Asians are dirty fkers who have no regard for animals at all.


The Indonesian government wouldn't care less Andrei.
They would buy their requirements from elsewhere, and more Australian farmers would go out of business.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Aussie on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:35pm

Quote:
Asians are dirty fkers who have no regard for animals at all.


Any exceptions, Mr Hicks?

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by cods on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:35pm
for goodness sake stop bumping this unimportant thread >:(

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Aussie on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:37pm

cods wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:35pm:
for goodness sake stop bumping this unimportant thread >:(


*bump*

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by cods on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:40pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:37pm:

cods wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:35pm:
for goodness sake stop bumping this unimportant thread >:(


*bump*




FOR SOMEONE WHO COMPLAINS ADNAUSEUM ABOUT SAME THREADS AND CHANGING THE TOPIC ..

YOU SURE CAN SHOW YOUR TRUE COLOURS..

NO WONDER NO ONE TAKES ANY NOTICE OF YOU.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Aussie on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:46pm
*bump*

8-)

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by John Smith on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:54pm
bump for Cods

;) :-*

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by True Blue... on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:23pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:04am:
I always thought she was quite decent looking bird when she went to jail.

Then I always had an attraction to the more bogany type girls - sort of want what you're not used to kind of thing I guess?

She's looking a bit ropey now, I guess thats what a decade of Indonesian food will do to you eh?

I hope her half-brother is proud of himself.

You know, the one who was travelling with her, turned around and fled the country same day she was arrested and has since been sent to jail for beating a man with an iron bar over a drug deal....


that's the piece of shyt I believe should have been locked up in the first place....  >:(

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by RightSadFred on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 7:41am

John Smith wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 4:41pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:23pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 2:18pm:
Foreign policy does not, and never will depend on how criminals are treated.
Nations are above that.


#####

They shouldn't be.


so we should jeopardise hundreds of millions in trade, and make enemies of our neighbours, to protect a few drug dealers?

Do you think the drug dealers give a stuff about you?


John Smith

Does not matter what the crime is, as a sovereign nation we want our legal system respected, in this case the Indonesian's have not done anything wrong, so there is not even a grey area argument on this.

If anything the Ants-Pants girl obviously paid a bribe which is a big custom in SE-Asia, this is the more dodgy case.

There are numerous cases in SE-Asia and the Middle east where Australians have been set up, its seems to be SOP by Saudi authorities to stitch people up with simple selling of Alcohol charges if they want to get rid of someone they don't like, especially if your a foreigner. Why Corby gets all this attention is beyond me.

Seems the ALP were happy to jeopardise our trade with their basic stupidity with Indonesia, did not need any dopy (i.e. get caught) drug dealers.



Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by True Colours on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 9:38am
Not dead yet, but there are some who would have it that way:




Corby's pact with the dealers


''Can you keep it together, love?'' … drug traffickers Malcolm McCauley and David McHugh visit Schapelle Corby in Kerobokan jail in 2005.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/corbys-pact-with-the-dealers-20111112-1ncum.html

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/the-downfall-of-the-daughter-20111112-1ncnw.html

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by corporate_whitey on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 9:48am
Drug smuggling is a very serious legal and moral criminal offense...I hope Ms Corby has used this time to reflect on herself....

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by cods on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:02am
I cried last night first time in a loooooog time just watching TV...

I watched A Better Man...the death of Van Nguyen in Singapore in 2005...the amazing thing is I have v ery little recollection of this mans horror trial and execution...at the time we were obsessed with Corby pretty and white.


its true we are a racist country.. even Brian Browns character a QC.. said he wasnt white so he didnt get the media  attention..

the govt did what they could but the people were pretty well silent...

I know this sounds daft.. but I will never go back to Singapore or fly their airlines...

their court system was more than harsh and I think unfair..they are unbending no one is given a second chance...I thought them cruel.

Corby??.. well she does have a lot of people on her side...as this thread proves...I wonder how many Van would have had under similar circumstances... :'( :'(



Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by ian on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:07am
more than 500 ausssies in foreign jails, some for crimes they really didnt commit. The only one they care about is Corby who is the least likely to be innocent.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by RightSadFred on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:28am

ian wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:07am:
more than 500 ausssies in foreign jails, some for crimes they really didnt commit. The only one they care about is Corby who is the least likely to be innocent.


Ian

By definition she is guilty as she has been found so by law.

If you mean she had the weakest case to defend then I agree.

What I will say is that you need to respect customs and laws of the countries you visit more so then when you are at home as you will never fully understand such....... I do believe in the smoke fire theory but out of these many hundred others for sure many of these cases justice was not served even by the particular countries standards.

Whether they committed the crimes or not is really not relevant, its whether they have been afforded the same rights as a citizen of that country has to defend themselves that is all we can ask for, the law gets it wrong here as well.

We expect the same when people visit here.






Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:32am

ian wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:07am:
more than 500 ausssies in foreign jails, some for crimes they really didnt commit. The only one they care about is Corby who is the least likely to be innocent.


Australian goals are chockas full with people who all say they are innocent too.
How can this be?

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by ian on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:38am
Heres one where there is serious doubt about his guilt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_Palfreeman

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by ian on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:44am
Another, this man may never get out of jail, he has also been fined 25 million. Business deal gone wrong

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/matthew-joyce-allegedly-incarcerated-on-the-back-of-falsified-evidence/story-fn59nm2j-1226654080682
Matthew Joyce allegedly incarcerated on the back of "falsified" evidence

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by True Colours on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:59am

cods wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:02am:
I know this sounds daft.. but I will never go back to Singapore or fly their airlines...

their court system was more than harsh and I think unfair..they are unbending no one is given a second chance...I thought them cruel.


Singapore is racist too. Citizens are required to carry ID cards labelled with their race.


Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by ian on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:15am
I have personally found Singapore to be one of the least racist counries in Asia, boring but not racist. The most racist country in Asia would have to be India, by far.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:42am

ian wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:15am:
I have personally found Singapore to be one of the least racist counries in Asia, boring but not racist. The most racist country in Asia would have to be India, by far.


I worked and lived in Singapore for three months some time ago and had no racial issues there.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by corporate_whitey on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 1:33pm

cods wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:02am:
I cried last night first time in a loooooog time just watching TV...

I watched A Better Man...the death of Van Nguyen in Singapore in 2005...the amazing thing is I have v ery little recollection of this mans horror trial and execution...at the time we were obsessed with Corby pretty and white.


its true we are a racist country.. even Brian Browns character a QC.. said he wasnt white so he didnt get the media  attention..

the govt did what they could but the people were pretty well silent...

I know this sounds daft.. but I will never go back to Singapore or fly their airlines...

their court system was more than harsh and I think unfair..they are unbending no one is given a second chance...I thought them cruel.

Corby??.. well she does have a lot of people on her side...as this thread proves...I wonder how many Van would have had under similar circumstances... :'( :'(

Its a desirable outcome when social sanctions work in reforming the moral Character of people like Van Nguyen before his death.  Hopefully this will deter others form committing these kinds of crimes.  But if Van saw the error of his way before justice was done upon him then good for him, thats what the process of moral reform and rehabilitation of wrong doers is all about....

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 13th, 2013 at 7:15pm

cods wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 10:02am:
I cried last night first time in a loooooog time just watching TV...

I watched A Better Man...the death of Van Nguyen in Singapore in 2005...the amazing thing is I have v ery little recollection of this mans horror trial and execution...at the time we were obsessed with Corby pretty and white.


its true we are a racist country.. even Brian Browns character a QC.. said he wasnt white so he didnt get the media  attention..

the govt did what they could but the people were pretty well silent...

I know this sounds daft.. but I will never go back to Singapore or fly their airlines...

their court system was more than harsh and I think unfair..they are unbending no one is given a second chance...I thought them cruel.

Corby??.. well she does have a lot of people on her side...as this thread proves...I wonder how many Van would have had under similar circumstances... :'( :'(


Y'all must have been asleep during Nguyen's case/trial/sentence and hanging.

It was constantly on our tv screens and in our newspapers.

Everyone was begging Singapore not to hang him, including the Pope.
Nasty Singapore just went ahead and hanged him.


http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/barbaric-to-hang-him-ruddock/2005/12/01/1133311133346.html

Condemned Australian drug trafficker Nguyen Tuong Van and his mother will be allowed to hold hands, but not to hug, before he is put to death.

Singaporean officials today said they would grant Kim Nguyen an exemption from a total ban on physical contact with death row inmates.

Kim Nguyen had asked to be able to hug her son one final time before he is executed at dawn tomorrow morning.

But in a statement, the Singapore Government said it would allow only limited physical contact between the condemned man and his mother and brother Khoa.

Sentence barbaric: Ruddock

Attorney-General Philip Ruddock today described the sentence imposed on Nguyen as barbaric, and more abhorrent than normal because issues of mitigation were not taken into account.






Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 13th, 2013 at 8:50pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:51am:
Schapelle Corby will be released when her sentence for drug offenses is concluded. 


Maybe sooner.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/new-parole-hope-in-indonesia-for-schapelle-corby/story-fni0cx12-1226696551485

New parole hope in Indonesia for Schapelle Corby

Schapelle Corby's hopes of being granted parole after more than a decade in a Balinese prison have taken a huge leap forward.
Indonesian judicial officials today visited her in her cell in Kerobokan Prison and also inspected the home of her sister Mercedes.



Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Verge on Aug 13th, 2013 at 8:59pm
I couldn't give two craps if she is alive. Drug dealers are the bottom feeders of society and I have no sympathy

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by True Blue... on Aug 14th, 2013 at 7:17am
Corby has done her time for the crime... or for her brother anyways...

the national attention she received only added to her time in jail...

she is meeting with Parole members now and could possibly be out as soon as October... but I wouldn't hold me breath...

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by RightSadFred on Aug 14th, 2013 at 7:48am
True Blue...

We can learn from Indonesia about how drug dealers should be treated.

She will be back and someone will write a book for her and she will be fine ..... and back on the gear.


Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by cods on Aug 14th, 2013 at 8:30am

bambu wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 8:50pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:51am:
Schapelle Corby will be released when her sentence for drug offenses is concluded. 


Maybe sooner.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/new-parole-hope-in-indonesia-for-schapelle-corby/story-fni0cx12-1226696551485

New parole hope in Indonesia for Schapelle Corby

Schapelle Corby's hopes of being granted parole after more than a decade in a Balinese prison have taken a huge leap forward.
Indonesian judicial officials today visited her in her cell in Kerobokan Prison and also inspected the home of her sister Mercedes.



well lets hope its true this time round.. if its just to make headlines then that just plain cruel..I too think she has done her time I find their laws barbaric to be honest, its a form of torture really.... but then ours are too stupid/weak

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by bambu on Aug 18th, 2013 at 9:09am

cods wrote on Aug 14th, 2013 at 8:30am:

bambu wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 8:50pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 9:51am:
Schapelle Corby will be released when her sentence for drug offenses is concluded. 


Maybe sooner.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/new-parole-hope-in-indonesia-for-schapelle-corby/story-fni0cx12-1226696551485

New parole hope in Indonesia for Schapelle Corby

Schapelle Corby's hopes of being granted parole after more than a decade in a Balinese prison have taken a huge leap forward.
Indonesian judicial officials today visited her in her cell in Kerobokan Prison and also inspected the home of her sister Mercedes.



well lets hope its true this time round.. if its just to make headlines then that just plain cruel..I too think she has done her time I find their laws barbaric to be honest, its a form of torture really.... but then ours are too stupid/weak


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Not all of them...most of our laws are fair enough.

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This morning;

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/bali-parole-board-says-schapelle-corby-should-go-free/story-fncynjr2-1226698901400


Bali parole board says Schapelle Corby should go free


SCHAPELLE Corby's chances of an early release from prison have been given a massive boost with corrections officers in Bali recommending her for parole.

The green light from the Bali corrections board (BAPAS) increases the likelihood that the convicted drug smuggler could soon be released from Kerobokan jail to live with her sister Mercedes in Bali.

Ketut Artha, the head of the Denpasar BAPAS office, has told AAP that the parole recommendation was handed to prison officials on Friday.

"The content is that we agree with suggestion that Corby gets her parole," he told AAP today while attending Indonesian independence day celebrations at Kerobokan jail.

"Our consideration is that Corby has shown good behaviour while in prison, that local society and officials could accept her and the family is ready with guarantee.


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If she is released on parole, there must be no dramas...no niteclubs etc.
Just a quiet, private, 'hidden' lifestyle.
All guests to be searched at the front gate of Mercedes familiy home...for possible contraband that could jeopardise Schapelle's parole conditions.
There are some in Indonesia hot happy she's likely getting parole...trickery could be on the cards.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by True Colours on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:02pm
Schapelle Corby's half-brother James Kisina to face court on cocaine charges

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by The Mechanic on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:15pm
have you seen Schapelle lately...

she looks like she's lost her marbles.. 

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:18pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:15pm:
have you seen Schapelle lately...

she looks like she's lost her marbles.. 



Being locked up in a third world prison (for nothing) will probably do that to you.



Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Aussie on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:18pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:15pm:
have you seen Schapelle lately...

she looks like she's lost her marbles.. 


If that is all she has to worry about......big deal.  It was several years ago some 'expert' said she would be dead, imminently if she was not released.

It seems the hold up this time is because Abbott's mob could not get some required documents (a guarantee) in order.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by True Colours on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:15pm:
have you seen Schapelle lately...

she looks like she's lost her marbles.. 



Being locked up in a third world prison (for nothing) will probably do that to you.


So might years of smoking marijuana.


http://www.youthbeyondblue.com/factsheets-and-info/fact-sheet-10-cannabis-and-your-mental-health/

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:33pm

True Colours wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:15pm:
have you seen Schapelle lately...

she looks like she's lost her marbles.. 



Being locked up in a third world prison (for nothing) will probably do that to you.


So might years of smoking marijuana.


http://www.youthbeyondblue.com/factsheets-and-info/fact-sheet-10-cannabis-and-your-mental-health/



I don't think she's had any joints lately.



Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by True Colours on Nov 4th, 2013 at 11:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:33pm:

True Colours wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:18pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:15pm:
have you seen Schapelle lately...

she looks like she's lost her marbles.. 



Being locked up in a third world prison (for nothing) will probably do that to you.


So might years of smoking marijuana.


http://www.youthbeyondblue.com/factsheets-and-info/fact-sheet-10-cannabis-and-your-mental-health/



I don't think she's had any joints lately.


Hmmm...well who knows? Apparently you can bribe the guards and bring just about anything in to Kerobokan Prison.


Speaking of joints, Schappelle brought enough into Bali to make quite a few...or was the bogey board  just one big joint in disguise?


Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Nov 4th, 2013 at 11:19pm

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


Because our loyal politicians aren't in the habit of keeping tabs on convicted drug smugglers.
And the media could well be wondering why they are spending time on the daily reporting on the life of a convicted drug smuggler.

Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Nov 4th, 2013 at 11:24pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 11:19pm:

bambu wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 5:48am:
If she is still alive, then why haven't we heard anything about her from our supposedly loyal media and supposedly loyal politicians?


Because our loyal politicians aren't in the habit of keeping tabs on convicted drug smugglers.
And the media could well be wondering why they are spending time on the daily reporting on the life of a convicted drug smuggler.


To be fair I don't think she was guilty.

The fact she travelled with her half-brother who had previous drug convictions, turned around and left Bali on the next plane when she was arrested and has since been inside a QLD prison for the charge of tying a guy to a chair and beating him with an iron bar over a drugs deal.....

Leads me to believe they may, just may, have belonged to somebody else.


Title: Re: Is Schapelle Corby still alive?
Post by True Blue... on Nov 5th, 2013 at 6:09am
I recently saw a story about two Australians over seas who found drugs in their suitcases once they got to their motel...

they rang the Australian consulate who advised them to "get rid" of the drugs asap and that its possible they are being watched by the drug traffickers wanting to get their drugs back...

this is what they do all of the time... apparently..

so what you'll be thinking already is that "why didn't they go to the authorities in that country" ... right?

because they would have been accused of being drug smugglers themselves and thrown in jail.. so were advised to flush them straight down the toilet and get out of the country...

scary stuff...

im not saying this is what happened to Corby... but basically they threw her in jail because they couldn't find anyone else to blame...

im also sus on the "half brother"... who is being charged with cocaine related charges as we speak..   

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