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Message started by True Colours on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm

Title: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by True Colours on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm
Roger Dean gets life in prison for nursing home fire

He murdered 11 people by setting fire to their nursing home while they slept in their beds.

Now aged-care nurse Roger Dean will spend the rest of his life in jail.

Justice Megan Latham delivered a life sentence to the 37-year-old for the November 2011 crime, which left the city in a state of shock. Dean made no reaction as the sentence was announced.


The judge described the murders as ''atrocious'' and ''greatly reprehensible'', saying "the pain and terror experienced by all of the victims must have been horrific".

''For those who were unable to move independently and who faced the prospect of being burnt alive or suffocated by smoke, a worse fate is hard to imagine.''

Around 4.50am on November 18, 2011, Dean set fire to beds in two rooms of the Quakers Hill nursing home where he was working as the night nursing manager.

Five of the residents perished in the fire, while a further six died later in hospital from the injuries they sustained.

The victims were: Dorothy Wu, 85; Alma Smith, 73; Reginald Green, 87; Lola Bennett, 86; Ella Wood, 97; Urbana Alipio, 79; Caesar Galea, 82; Doris Becke, 96; Verna Webeck, 83; Dorothy Sterling, 80; and Neeltje Valkay, 90.

Standing outside as the home as ambulance officers frantically tried to save the residents, Dean did a television interview with Channel 7.

"There was a fire and I did what I could to get the residents out," he said.

"It's a bit overwhelming ... but we got a lot of people out, that's the main thing."

After Dean pleaded guilty to the murders on what was to be the first day of his murder trial in May this year, it emerged that he had lit the fires to destroy evidence that he had stolen some 230 painkilling tablets prescribed to the residents.

The night before the fire, Dean repeatedly went into the room where the home kept its addictive medications and stole 237 tablets of the narcotic painkiller Endone and one capsule of the morphine drug Kapanol. These can be bought, with a prescription, for about $85.

He became extremely fearful when nursing home managers discovered the drugs had been stolen, and called police.

The next night, after trying unsuccessfully to get into the locked room where the drug registry books were kept, Dean told two junior nurses to take an unscheduled break and then walked into the A2 wing. Using a stolen cigarette lighter, he set fire to the sheets of an empty bed.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/roger-dean-gets-life-in-prison-for-nursing-home-fire-20130801-2r0i2.html

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by True Colours on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:31pm

Quote:
In the months before he lit the fires that killed 11 people at Quakers Hill nursing home, Roger Dean told friends in his Bible study group he was gay and was worried people at his church were talking about him, a court has heard.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/dean-stressed-and-anxious-in-months-before-nursing-home-fire-20130605-2npfi.html

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Quantum on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:55pm
What the hell does the heading of this have to do with the actual issue? Roger Dean got a life sentence. Churchgoer is irrelevant. Why not;

'Homosexual gets life sentence'
'Asian gets life sentence'
'Drugy gets life sentence'


or are you just showing your true colours?

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by True Colours on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:29pm

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:55pm:
What the hell does the heading of this have to do with the actual issue? Roger Dean got a life sentence. Churchgoer is irrelevant. Why not;
[i]
'
'Asian gets life sentence'

or are you just showing your true colours?



I think you just showed your true colours. Who said that he was Asian?

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Quantum on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:38pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:29pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:55pm:
What the hell does the heading of this have to do with the actual issue? Roger Dean got a life sentence. Churchgoer is irrelevant. Why not;
[i]
'
'Asian gets life sentence'

or are you just showing your true colours?



I think you just showed your true colours. Who said that he was Asian?




His family didn't exactly come on the first feet now did it?

Your reply is idiotic. I was showing how stupid your title was. Whether he was a churchgoer or not is irrelevant. Hence why I asked why you didn't mention any other irrelevant details.   


Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by PZ547 on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:41pm
He'd been sacked by another care home

Brain of a pig

Self, self, self, self, self


Look at it.  Brain of a pig.  Brain of rotting meat

And now WE have to pay to feed the thing for decades

and WE have to pay for the thing to waste everyone's time with appeals


Bring back the rope

We can't afford to keep things like that

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:43pm
Hang em and hang em high.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Mnemonic on Aug 1st, 2013 at 7:09pm

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:38pm:


His family didn't exactly come on the first feet now did it?

Your reply is idiotic. I was showing how stupid your title was. Whether he was a churchgoer or not is irrelevant. Hence why I asked why you didn't mention any other irrelevant details.


I always thought he looked Asian, but his name didn't seem very Asian. Maybe he was adopted. :D

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Soren on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:44pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:31pm:

Quote:
In the months before he lit the fires that killed 11 people at Quakers Hill nursing home, Roger Dean told friends in his Bible study group he was gay and was worried people at his church were talking about him, a court has heard.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/dean-stressed-and-anxious-in-months-before-nursing-home-fire-20130605-2npfi.html



He didn't do it in his Allah's name, like all the allahu akhbaring jihadi crazies across the globe.
As if you didn't know full well that the point of jihad is religious motivation.

This Philippino bastard didn't burn down the nursing home to avenge some perceived disrespect of the Bible by the elderly residents whereas for the bearded jihadi monsters killing is always about some fvckn Koranic verse or other.





Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Kat on Aug 1st, 2013 at 11:54pm
I'm happy with the verdict and sentence, and content that his will not be easy time.

Crims have parents too, you see, and they don't like the idea of them being murdered any more than you or I would.

And they have nothing to lose...

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by The Grappler on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 6:13am
While it may be trendy to knock the churches (of which I belong to and follow none, BTW) - your heading should read 'Mass Killer Gets Life Sentence'.

His actions have no affiliations with any religious organisation in any way and are a total abrogation of their most basic tenets.

Dang - must be stressful being gay and thinking that people in a Bible group might be talking about you.... YTF would his defence team offer that puny excuse.  The guy was a thief, a liar, a user taking advantage of his position, (dare I say it in these PC times), 'odd', and ultimately a killer of totally innocent and helpless people.

In older times his church would have hung him... after a suitable dunking or two and perhaps an auto de fe` followed by a barbecue on the scaffold...

I think he figured he'd get off lightly on mental issues, gay 'victimhood', and being Asian....

He was wrong........ for life....

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by True Colours on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 6:51am

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:38pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:38pm:
'Asian gets life sentence'



True Colours wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Who said that he was Asian?




His family didn't exactly come on the first feet now did it?


How do you know? There were Asians on the First Fleet. Asians wet often part of British naval crews.



Quote:
there were at least 15 West Indians and Negroes, there were Dutch, Portuguese, Swedes and one Indian from Bengal. Some Asians were included in the Fleet.
At least 14 Jewish folk, in the main convicts, were also on the Fleet.

http://www.fellowshipfirstfleeters.org.au/storie6.html



I have met people whose Chinese ancestors came to Australia during the Victorian gold rush in the 1850's. There are others whose Asian ancestors worked clearing jungles for canefields in QLD more than 100 years ago.

I guess you must think Aborigines are Asian too - they don't have blonde hair and blue eyes - and we know their ancestors weren't on the First Fleet.

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Quantum on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:36am

True Colours wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 6:51am:

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:38pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 1:38pm:
'Asian gets life sentence'



True Colours wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:30pm:
Who said that he was Asian?




His family didn't exactly come on the first feet now did it?


How do you know? There were Asians on the First Fleet. Asians wet often part of British naval crews.



Quote:
there were at least 15 West Indians and Negroes, there were Dutch, Portuguese, Swedes and one Indian from Bengal. Some Asians were included in the Fleet.
At least 14 Jewish folk, in the main convicts, were also on the Fleet.

http://www.fellowshipfirstfleeters.org.au/storie6.html



I have met people whose Chinese ancestors came to Australia during the Victorian gold rush in the 1850's. There are others whose Asian ancestors worked clearing jungles for canefields in QLD more than 100 years ago.

I guess you must think Aborigines are Asian too - they don't have blonde hair and blue eyes - and we know their ancestors weren't on the First Fleet.


No matter how much you try to spin shlt, nothing is going to cover up the fact that you made issue of this blokes religion despite it having no impact on his actions.

Why didn't you mention he is gay?
Why didn't you mention he either does or sells drugs?
Why didn't you mention he was Asian?

Because you wanted to focus on the fact that he was a "churchgoer". Something totally irrelevant to the case.

What is really showing your stupidity is this....

"How do you know? There were Asians on the First Fleet. Asians wet often part of British naval crews.

there were at least 15 West Indians and Negroes, there were Dutch, Portuguese, Swedes and one Indian from Bengal. Some Asians were included in the Fleet.

I have met people whose Chinese ancestors came to Australia during the Victorian gold rush in the 1850's. There are others whose Asian ancestors worked clearing jungles for canefields in QLD more than 100 years ago.
"

Notice the amount of times you use the word Asian?but if someone else did that they would be a racist, right?

You are another dumbshlt who hates whites and Christians. You have shown this on almost all of your posts, and this thread is no different. Again, no matter how much you try to spin this it doesn't cover the fact that you tried to make this thread an attack on Christians and failed big time.


Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 2:56pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:31pm:

Quote:
In the months before he lit the fires that killed 11 people at Quakers Hill nursing home, Roger Dean told friends in his Bible study group he was gay and was worried people at his church were talking about him, a court has heard.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/dean-stressed-and-anxious-in-months-before-nursing-home-fire-20130605-2npfi.html



So why the thread title "Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence"

Why not "Man With Bad Haircut Gets Life Sentence" ?

Are you suggesting that his church attendance played some part in his actions?



Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by FriYAY on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 3:03pm
A better head line….

“mass murdering piece of crap to be strung up in the morning”


Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by True Colours on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 4:42pm

Quantum wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:36am:
"How do you know? There were Asians on the First Fleet. Asians wet often part of British naval crews.

there were at least 15 West Indians and Negroes, there were Dutch, Portuguese, Swedes and one Indian from Bengal. Some Asians were included in the Fleet.

I have met people whose Chinese ancestors came to Australia during the Victorian gold rush in the 1850's. There are others whose Asian ancestors worked clearing jungles for canefields in QLD more than 100 years ago.
"

Notice the amount of times you use the word Asian?but if someone else did that they would be a racist, right?



I see. So if your ancestors were Asian -even if they came on the First Fleet (which a minute ago you thought was impossible)- you will never be Australian but forever more Asian until the end of time.



and no I don't hate white Christians, just pointing out the absurdity in some of the posters on this forum having a fascination.


Perhaps they should take a leaf out of the Bible:


Quote:
"For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye?
Matthew7:2-4


Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Herbert on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 5:20pm

Soren wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 10:44pm:
[quote author=True_Colours link=1375324237/1#1 date=1375324310]
He didn't do it in his Allah's name, like all the allahu akhbaring jihadi crazies across the globe.
As if you didn't know full well that the point of jihad is religious motivation.

This Philippino bastard didn't burn down the nursing home to avenge some perceived disrespect of the Bible by the elderly residents whereas for the bearded jihadi monsters killing is always about some fvckn Koranic verse or other.


;D ;D ;D

Correct!


Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Herbert on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 5:31pm
There's not a chance in hell that he'll be in prison for life.

I'll give it 12 years before he's out on parole.

The parole board's reason?

1) He has left his drug addiction far behind.
2) He's been a model prisoner.
3) Has worked well in the prison infirmary.
4) Has become a Born Again Christian.
5) Has been conducting bible classes.
6) Has been keeping the boys happy in the communal shower-room.
7) Has been sucking the Chief Warden's fat one like a thirsty camel since Day One.
8) Constant lobbying by the Asian community to have his sentence reduced.

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Quantum on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 5:52pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 11:36am:
"How do you know? There were Asians on the First Fleet. Asians wet often part of British naval crews.

there were at least 15 West Indians and Negroes, there were Dutch, Portuguese, Swedes and one Indian from Bengal. Some Asians were included in the Fleet.

I have met people whose Chinese ancestors came to Australia during the Victorian gold rush in the 1850's. There are others whose Asian ancestors worked clearing jungles for canefields in QLD more than 100 years ago.
"

Notice the amount of times you use the word Asian?but if someone else did that they would be a racist, right?



I see. So if your ancestors were Asian -even if they came on the First Fleet (which a minute ago you thought was impossible)- you will never be Australian but forever more Asian until the end of time.



and no I don't hate white Christians, just pointing out the absurdity in some of the posters on this forum having a fascination.


Perhaps they should take a leaf out of the Bible:


Quote:
"For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye?
Matthew7:2-4


Still trying to spin your way out of it. Look at this rubbish;


Quote:
So if your ancestors were Asian you will never be Australian but forever more Asian until the end of time.


Who said he wasn't Australian? I never did. Putting word in peoples mouths now to hide the fact that your heading is rubbish?

If your ancestors were Asian then you will be forever Asian even if you're an Australian citizen. Nationality and Race are not the same thing. The murderers nationality is Australian. His race is Asian. All your deflecting doesn't get away from the fact that you're an idiot.

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 7:14pm

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:55pm:
What the hell does the heading of this have to do with the actual issue? Roger Dean got a life sentence. Churchgoer is irrelevant. Why not;

'Homosexual gets life sentence'
'Asian gets life sentence'
'Drugy gets life sentence'


or are you just showing your true colours?



Fair shake of the sauce bottle Quantum,

OK :

Christian, homo, Asian, druggy - gets life sentence.


I think that's too long to fit in the title.  :)

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by True Colours on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 8:16pm

Quantum wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 5:52pm:
If your ancestors were Asian then you will be forever Asian even if you're an Australian citizen.


Forever? So Aborigines are Asian then? Most people in Europe have Asian ancestry. Are they Asian too? Ever heard of Aryan? Where do you think they come from? The only true Europeans are Celts - and even they cam from somewhere else originally.




Quantum wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 5:52pm:
Nationality and Race are not the same thing. 


The whole notion of race is a discredited theory that has no basis in science. All human beings belong to the same species and sub-group - homo sapien sapien.

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 8:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 7:14pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:55pm:
What the hell does the heading of this have to do with the actual issue? Roger Dean got a life sentence. Churchgoer is irrelevant. Why not;

'Homosexual gets life sentence'
'Asian gets life sentence'
'Drugy gets life sentence'


or are you just showing your true colours?



Fair shake of the sauce bottle Quantum,

OK :

Christian, homo, Asian, druggy - gets life sentence.


I think that's too long to fit in the title.  :)



"Arsonist Gets Life Sentence"

That's all that was required.


Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Quantum on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 8:54pm

True Colours wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 8:16pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 5:52pm:
If your ancestors were Asian then you will be forever Asian even if you're an Australian citizen.


Forever? So Aborigines are Asian then? Most people in Europe have Asian ancestry. Are they Asian too? Ever heard of Aryan? Where do you think they come from? The only true Europeans are Celts - and even they cam from somewhere else originally.




Quantum wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 5:52pm:
Nationality and Race are not the same thing. 


The whole notion of race is a discredited theory that has no basis in science. All human beings belong to the same species and sub-group - homo sapien sapien.


Wow! The retard is strong with this one...

Whether you like it or not, our society does accept race as being real. Hence why we call people racist if they don't like or show aggression towards a particular race. Even you yourself have acknowledged race.

"So Aborigines are Asian then? Most people in Europe have Asian ancestry. Are they Asian too? Ever heard of Aryan? Where do you think they come from?"

You seem pretty confident that Asians exist for someone claiming race doesn't exist. In fact many of your posts make mention of whites, asians, blacks etc, despite your claim none of them exist.

You have no idea what you are arguing over. You have no idea what you actually believe. You still haven't justified why you said "churchgoer' in the title. All you have done is to try and turn this into a race discussion because you are trying to cover up your true purpose with this topic. You tried to make this about Christians and failed spectacularly.    
 

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by Kat on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 9:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 8:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 7:14pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:55pm:
What the hell does the heading of this have to do with the actual issue? Roger Dean got a life sentence. Churchgoer is irrelevant. Why not;

'Homosexual gets life sentence'
'Asian gets life sentence'
'Drugy gets life sentence'


or are you just showing your true colours?



Fair shake of the sauce bottle Quantum,

OK :

Christian, homo, Asian, druggy - gets life sentence.


I think that's too long to fit in the title.  :)



"Arsonist Gets Life Sentence"

That's all that was required.



I like 'Scumbag Gets Just Desserts'.

It's race/religion-neutral, but sums up the facts and my feelings.

Title: Re: Churchgoer Gets Life Sentence
Post by bobbythebat1 on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 9:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 8:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 2nd, 2013 at 7:14pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 1st, 2013 at 12:55pm:
What the hell does the heading of this have to do with the actual issue? Roger Dean got a life sentence. Churchgoer is irrelevant. Why not;

'Homosexual gets life sentence'
'Asian gets life sentence'
'Drugy gets life sentence'


or are you just showing your true colours?



Fair shake of the sauce bottle Quantum,

OK :

Christian, homo, Asian, druggy - gets life sentence.


I think that's too long to fit in the title.  :)



"Arsonist Gets Life Sentence"

That's all that was required.



Christian, homo, Asian, druggy, arsonist - gets life sentence.

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