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Does the Coalition have a $70b black hole? The claim "The Coalition, to return the federal budget to as a good a position as the government's, at minimum, would have to make $70 billion worth of cuts." Penny Wong, finance minister, August 3 press conference Senator Penny Wong says the Coalition would have to make $70 billion of cuts to pay for the election promises it has made so far. Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, in announcing the September 7 election date, also warned about the Coalition's ''cut to the bone'' plan, using the same number. [...] Does it stack up? It is hard to see why this historical footnote should be regarded as a cost to be added to a claimed net $50 billion of other costs for policies the opposition is actually proposing. Mr Hockey says its ''double counting''. As he puts it, ''there is no sense in which the lapsing or adoption of old savings measures damages the budget bottom line''. Senator Wong's office defends including the figure by saying Mr Hockey has regularly referred to his previous savings target.  But he isn't referring to it now. In recent days he has merely promised to deliver a better bottom line than Labor. Which is how Senator Wong framed her statement: ''The Coalition, to return the federal budget to as a good a position as the government's, at minimum, would have to make $70 billion worth of cuts.'' It wouldn't. The $19.7 billion budget cost, the biggest in Labor's list, shouldn't be there. The Coalition would need to deliver about $50 billion of savings to pay for its promises, not Labor's claimed $70 billion – and that's if the rest of its costings are accurate.  Not all of them are. Labor has costed Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's promise to lose 12,000 public servants through natural attrition over the next two years.  It says it'll only save $2.8 billion. That's a total that implies an implausibly low cost per public servant. Mr Hockey's office has shared with PolitiFact a costing from the independent Parliamentary Budget Office that finds the saving more like $4.8 billion than $2.8 billion. And some of Labor's other estimates are guesses. For instance, the Coalition hasn't released its dams and water management policy. Labor says it will cost $2 billion. Finding Frustrated by the Coalition's reluctance to release a thorough costing of its election promises to date Labor has come up with one of its own. Conveniently it totals $70 billion, which is a figure the Coalition itself has tossed around in the past. But some $20 billion of it shouldn't be there, and billions more are the result of guesses, not all of which will turn out to be right. Politifact rates the statement "false". http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/fact-checker/does-the-coalition-have-a-70b-black-hole-20130805-2r8po.html

Should Penny Wrong be removed from current role of professional idiot and should she take up her former role of chasing cars?

The ALP: the enlightened and progressive party ;D ;D ;D

And let's not forget that it was P Wrong and other professional idiots that tagged people with the label "denialist".

So where are the Coalitions full costings?..Or do we all get our accountants to do the sums for us as Tony suggested  ;D

adelcrow wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:53am:

So where are the Coalitions full costings?..Or do we all get our accountants to do the sums for us as Tony suggested  ;D

Maybe the costings will get the NBN treatment; it might be an opposition equivalent of a GBE ;).

adelcrow wrote on Aug 10^th, 2013 at 10:53am:

So where are the Coalitions full costings?..Or do we all get our accountants to do the sums for us as Tony suggested  ;D

Andrei could do it on the cheap.

If Tony Abbott came out tomorrow and said that he would bring the budget back into the black by getting rid of all middle class welfare he would get my vote so it would be nice to know where the cuts are going to come from to fix the deficit.
I dont like the bloke but I do realise that the budget waste needs fixing asap so a little honesty would go a along way.