300 Tons of Fukushima Nuclear Waste Pouring Into Ocean Every Day

Officials in Japan hid the fact that the Fukushima nuclear plant has been pouring hundreds of tons of nuclear waste water into the ocean every day and that a containment barrier has been breached.

Highly radioactive water from Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear plant is pouring out at a rate of 300 tonnes a day, officials said on Wednesday, as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ordered the government to step in and help in the clean-up.

The revelation amounted to an acknowledgement that plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) has yet to come to grips with the scale of the catastrophe, 2 1/2 years after the plant was hit by a huge earthquake and tsunami. Tepco only recently admitted water had leaked at all.

As early as January this year, Tepco found fish contaminated with high levels of radiation inside a port at the plant. Local fishermen and independent researchers had already suspected a leak of radioactive water, but Tepco denied the claims.

Tatsuya Shinkawa, a director in METI’s Nuclear Accident Response Office, told reporters the government believed water had been leaking for two years, but Yoneyama told Reuters it was unclear how long the water had been leaking at the current rate.

Shinkawa described the water as “highly” contaminated.

Tepco and the industry ministry have been working since May on a proposal to freeze the soil to prevent groundwater from leaking into the reactor buildings.

According to AFP, TEPCO estimates between 20 trillion and 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium have spilled into the ocean.

UPI explains a becquerel is a unit of radioactivity, “the quantity of radioactive material in which one nucleus decays per second.”

TEPCO long denied radioactive water had been leaking into the ocean, the AP notes, despite reports that biologists had found traces of radioactive cesium in fish. The operator eventually admitted to both the leak and having postponed acknowledgment the crisis.

There is no credibility from TEPCO or the Japanese government on the extent of the real disaster, its effects, the ultimate cleanup costs, or how many years fish in the area will be contaminated. In addition, contaminated fish may turn up anywhere within their normal swimming range with obvious implications.

Link -
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/mike-mish-shedlock/fukushima-cover-up-fails/
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We are in the Energy Business & Fossil Fuels will last FOREVER!
Yeah Right?
We Politicians & the Energy Industry have Public Safety, Climate Change & LOWER COSTS, as our Prime concerns!
Yeah Right?
Government's don't spy on their own Public!
Yeah Right?
Government's have the Public's best, long term interests are heart!
Yeah Right?
I'm a Politician, you can Trust me, I tell the Truth!
Yeah Right?
My name is Tony/Kevin & the Liberal/Labor party will exponentially deliver lower taxes, lower Debt & more jobs!
Yeah Right?

The fact is that Government/s & Politicians (from all Party's, in Japan, here in OZ & around the world) and Big Business (Energy company's in particular) and let's not leave out the unions, all have something in common, THEY ARE SEVERELY TRUTH INHIBITED and biased towards their own self interest & that of their own supporters!

It's time, to start sending a few messages & to start off, I suggest voting out every incumbent, at the upcoming OZ Federal Election!

Oh & for those, on both the Left & Right of Politics, who would complain of my bias, can I refer you to take the following ABC VoteCompass test & see where your results lead.
http://www.abc.net.au/votecompass/

Whilst this sort of ting can be subjective, my answers resulted in me being -
1) Nearly in the centre of the middle target & very slightly on the Social Liberalism side and right in the middle between the Economic Left & Right.
2) My supposed agreement with the parties, according to Vote Compass, was -
Labor - 54%
Liberal -51%
Greens - 44%

 

So when negativity is evident - PN loves to drag both LIBs and ALP into the same boat

But when positivity abounds for the LIBs - it seems PN is silent

But not so silent when the ALP positivity

Don't pretend you are neutral when your right eye is firmly shut

Try again PN

so in the perfect world you envisage.. who do you suggest we emulate?.. assuming of course there is such a govt out there without all those dastardly characteristics you list.. self interest etc..???? I am sure you have somewhere in mind... :D

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:34pm:

So when negativity is evident - PN loves to drag both LIBs and ALP into the same boat But when positivity abounds for the LIBs - it seems PN is silent But not so silent when the ALP positivity Don't pretend you are neutral when your right eye is firmly shut Try again PN

they always pretend to be neutral when the polls are down...lol

I like the ones that pretend to be green.. but back gillard/rudd no matter how bad they are...in fact other than greenswhine those that claim to be green never ever talk about them...not that I see anyway...

just claim thats who the vote for when the polls tell them labor is on the nose..LOL>..

nothing like living in hope I guess...they dont ask much from their own side do they?????..

I love kevthecon asking us to TRUST him.. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:34pm:

So when negativity is evident - PN loves to drag both LIBs and ALP into the same boat But when positivity abounds for the LIBs - it seems PN is silent But not so silent when the ALP positivity Don't pretend you are neutral when your right eye is firmly shut Try again PN

As usual Maqqa, your SPIN exceeds reality!
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43

If I agree with some of what you say, does not mean I agree with everything, nor does it make me a friend!

Equally, if I disagree with some of what you say, that does not mean I disagree with everything, nor does it make me an enemy!

In fact, the reason I hit the middle of the Vote Compass chart, wasn't that I am a fence sitter, IT IS BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY!

cods wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 12:35pm:

so in the perfect world you envisage.. who do you suggest we emulate?.. assuming of course there is such a govt out there without all those dastardly characteristics you list.. self interest etc..???? I am sure you have somewhere in mind... :D

Do you really think there is a Politician/Political Party that doesn't fit those characteristics?

The world has never been "perfect" Cods, NEVER!
And, why would you need to emulate anyone or any Political party? Why can't you (WE)  make up our own minds, based on FACTS & our own interpretation of those facts?

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 12:34pm: So when negativity is evident - PN loves to drag both LIBs and ALP into the same boat But when positivity abounds for the LIBs - it seems PN is silent But not so silent when the ALP positivity Don't pretend you are neutral when your right eye is firmly shut Try again PN As usual Maqqa, your SPIN exceeds reality! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43 If I agree with some of what you say, does not mean I agree with everything, nor does it make me a friend! Equally, if I disagree with some of what you say, that does not mean I disagree with everything, nor does it make me an enemy! In fact, the reason I hit the middle of the Vote Compass chart, wasn't that I am a fence sitter, IT IS BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY!

Fairly easy to "hit the middle" of the voting compass so that's no proof of your self proclaim neutrality

This is not about "agreeing" with what I said

It's always about presenting your argument succinctly despite your political leaning

Tony Abbott has admitted on camera that unless he is reading from a script that he is lying.
Now theres real PM material  ;D

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 1:58pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 12:34pm: So when negativity is evident - PN loves to drag both LIBs and ALP into the same boat But when positivity abounds for the LIBs - it seems PN is silent But not so silent when the ALP positivity Don't pretend you are neutral when your right eye is firmly shut Try again PN As usual Maqqa, your SPIN exceeds reality! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43 If I agree with some of what you say, does not mean I agree with everything, nor does it make me a friend! Equally, if I disagree with some of what you say, that does not mean I disagree with everything, nor does it make me an enemy! In fact, the reason I hit the middle of the Vote Compass chart, wasn't that I am a fence sitter, IT IS BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY! Fairly easy to "hit the middle" of the voting compass so that's no proof of your self proclaim neutrality This is not about "agreeing" with what I said It's always about presenting your argument succinctly despite your political leaning

Well, there is certainly no mistaking your Political Leaning, as you do put it succinctly!

However, your arguments reasoning is normally far from being succinct or reasoned!

As for you saying I am being or hitting "middle of the road", I have already said that I am not a fence sitter, I most likely got that allocation on the Vote Compass chart because I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY and that change is desperately needed system wide!

adelcrow wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:49pm:

Tony Abbott has admitted on camera that unless he is reading from a script that he is lying. Now theres real PM material  ;D

No doubt, BUT do you really think that Rudd has any less assistance?

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:50pm:

Well, there is certainly no mistaking your Political Leaning, as you do put it succinctly! However, your arguments reasoning is normally far from being succinct or reasoned! As for you saying I am being or hitting "middle of the road", I have already said that I am not a fence sitter, I most likely got that allocation on the Vote Compass chart because I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY and that change is desperately needed system wide!

I reflect the opposition I come up against

You've not presented anything that is worth debating simply because you ignore facts and/or do not understand simple economic and/or accounting concept

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 11:51am:

300 Tons of Fukushima Nuclear Waste Pouring Into Ocean Every Day Officials in Japan hid the fact that the Fukushima nuclear plant has been pouring hundreds of tons of nuclear waste water into the ocean every day and that a containment barrier has been breached. Highly radioactive water from Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear plant is pouring out at a rate of 300 tonnes a day, officials said on Wednesday, as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ordered the government to step in and help in the clean-up. The revelation amounted to an acknowledgement that plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) has yet to come to grips with the scale of the catastrophe, 2 1/2 years after the plant was hit by a huge earthquake and tsunami. Tepco only recently admitted water had leaked at all. As early as January this year, Tepco found fish contaminated with high levels of radiation inside a port at the plant. Local fishermen and independent researchers had already suspected a leak of radioactive water, but Tepco denied the claims. Tatsuya Shinkawa, a director in METI’s Nuclear Accident Response Office, told reporters the government believed water had been leaking for two years, but Yoneyama told Reuters it was unclear how long the water had been leaking at the current rate. Shinkawa described the water as “highly” contaminated. Tepco and the industry ministry have been working since May on a proposal to freeze the soil to prevent groundwater from leaking into the reactor buildings. According to AFP, TEPCO estimates between 20 trillion and 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium have spilled into the ocean. UPI explains a becquerel is a unit of radioactivity, “the quantity of radioactive material in which one nucleus decays per second.” TEPCO long denied radioactive water had been leaking into the ocean, the AP notes, despite reports that biologists had found traces of radioactive cesium in fish. The operator eventually admitted to both the leak and having postponed acknowledgment the crisis. There is no credibility from TEPCO or the Japanese government on the extent of the real disaster, its effects, the ultimate cleanup costs, or how many years fish in the area will be contaminated. In addition, contaminated fish may turn up anywhere within their normal swimming range with obvious implications. Link - http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/mike-mish-shedlock/fukushima-cover-up-fails/ =============================== We are in the Energy Business & Fossil Fuels will last FOREVER! Yeah Right? We Politicians & the Energy Industry have Public Safety, Climate Change & LOWER COSTS, as our Prime concerns! Yeah Right? Government's don't spy on their own Public! Yeah Right? Government's have the Public's best, long term interests are heart! Yeah Right? I'm a Politician, you can Trust me, I tell the Truth! Yeah Right? My name is Tony/Kevin & the Liberal/Labor party will exponentially deliver lower taxes, lower Debt & more jobs! Yeah Right? The fact is that Government/s & Politicians (from all Party's, in Japan, here in OZ & around the world) and Big Business (Energy company's in particular) and let's not leave out the unions, all have something in common, THEY ARE SEVERELY TRUTH INHIBITED and biased towards their own self interest & that of their own supporters! It's time, to start sending a few messages & to start off, I suggest voting out every incumbent, at the upcoming OZ Federal Election!

i




You're just worried about Godzilla aren't ya  ;D


http://www.freewebs.com/godzilla14freak/godzilla.jpg

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 2:58pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 2:50pm: Well, there is certainly no mistaking your Political Leaning, as you do put it succinctly! However, your arguments reasoning is normally far from being succinct or reasoned! As for you saying I am being or hitting "middle of the road", I have already said that I am not a fence sitter, I most likely got that allocation on the Vote Compass chart because I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY and that change is desperately needed system wide! I reflect the opposition I come up against You've not presented anything that is worth debating simply because you ignore facts and/or do not understand simple economic and/or accounting concept

You are a straight reflection of the Liberal party!

The simple Economic concepts you refer to, are simply a reflection of the past, they no longer have current &or future credibilty, as will be clearly on display Locally & Globally, over the years ahead!

As for debating, you do not debate facts, such as what I repeatedly post, because you know it isn't a discussion you have any chance of winning, such as some of the issues raised in the following & related posts!
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43

Innocent bystander wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 3:19pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 11:51am: 300 Tons of Fukushima Nuclear Waste Pouring Into Ocean Every Day Officials in Japan hid the fact that the Fukushima nuclear plant has been pouring hundreds of tons of nuclear waste water into the ocean every day and that a containment barrier has been breached. Highly radioactive water from Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear plant is pouring out at a rate of 300 tonnes a day, officials said on Wednesday, as Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ordered the government to step in and help in the clean-up. The revelation amounted to an acknowledgement that plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) has yet to come to grips with the scale of the catastrophe, 2 1/2 years after the plant was hit by a huge earthquake and tsunami. Tepco only recently admitted water had leaked at all. As early as January this year, Tepco found fish contaminated with high levels of radiation inside a port at the plant. Local fishermen and independent researchers had already suspected a leak of radioactive water, but Tepco denied the claims. Tatsuya Shinkawa, a director in METI’s Nuclear Accident Response Office, told reporters the government believed water had been leaking for two years, but Yoneyama told Reuters it was unclear how long the water had been leaking at the current rate. Shinkawa described the water as “highly” contaminated. Tepco and the industry ministry have been working since May on a proposal to freeze the soil to prevent groundwater from leaking into the reactor buildings. According to AFP, TEPCO estimates between 20 trillion and 40 trillion becquerels of radioactive tritium have spilled into the ocean. UPI explains a becquerel is a unit of radioactivity, “the quantity of radioactive material in which one nucleus decays per second.” TEPCO long denied radioactive water had been leaking into the ocean, the AP notes, despite reports that biologists had found traces of radioactive cesium in fish. The operator eventually admitted to both the leak and having postponed acknowledgment the crisis. There is no credibility from TEPCO or the Japanese government on the extent of the real disaster, its effects, the ultimate cleanup costs, or how many years fish in the area will be contaminated. In addition, contaminated fish may turn up anywhere within their normal swimming range with obvious implications. Link - http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/mike-mish-shedlock/fukushima-cover-up-fails/ =============================== We are in the Energy Business & Fossil Fuels will last FOREVER! Yeah Right? We Politicians & the Energy Industry have Public Safety, Climate Change & LOWER COSTS, as our Prime concerns! Yeah Right? Government's don't spy on their own Public! Yeah Right? Government's have the Public's best, long term interests are heart! Yeah Right? I'm a Politician, you can Trust me, I tell the Truth! Yeah Right? My name is Tony/Kevin & the Liberal/Labor party will exponentially deliver lower taxes, lower Debt & more jobs! Yeah Right? The fact is that Government/s & Politicians (from all Party's, in Japan, here in OZ & around the world) and Big Business (Energy company's in particular) and let's not leave out the unions, all have something in common, THEY ARE SEVERELY TRUTH INHIBITED and biased towards their own self interest & that of their own supporters! It's time, to start sending a few messages & to start off, I suggest voting out every incumbent, at the upcoming OZ Federal Election! i You're just worried about Godzilla aren't ya  ;D http://www.freewebs.com/godzilla14freak/godzilla.jpg

IB,
Saw the movie, I am more concerned about where Politics & Politicians are sending us!

I wouldn't be too concerned about nuclear waste if I was you, Japan got nuked twice and they have been living on top of ground zero since the day after it happened, radioactive waste seems to turn some people hysterical, I wouldn't worry about it, much ado about nothing if you ask me.   

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 3:29pm:

Maqqa wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 2:58pm: perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 2:50pm: Well, there is certainly no mistaking your Political Leaning, as you do put it succinctly! However, your arguments reasoning is normally far from being succinct or reasoned! As for you saying I am being or hitting "middle of the road", I have already said that I am not a fence sitter, I most likely got that allocation on the Vote Compass chart because I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY and that change is desperately needed system wide! I reflect the opposition I come up against You've not presented anything that is worth debating simply because you ignore facts and/or do not understand simple economic and/or accounting concept You are a straight reflection of the Liberal party! The simple Economic concepts you refer to, are simply a reflection of the past, they no longer have current &or future credibilty, as will be clearly on display Locally & Globally, over the years ahead! As for debating, you do not debate facts, such as what I repeatedly post, because you know it isn't a discussion you have any chance of winning, such as some of the issues raised in the following & related posts! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43

As usual Maqqa, you are happy to get into the SPIN, but disappear when it comes to discussions of real substance, particularly on current & future Economic issues!

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11^th, 2013 at 7:33pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 2:58pm: perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 2:50pm: Well, there is certainly no mistaking your Political Leaning, as you do put it succinctly! However, your arguments reasoning is normally far from being succinct or reasoned! As for you saying I am being or hitting "middle of the road", I have already said that I am not a fence sitter, I most likely got that allocation on the Vote Compass chart because I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY and that change is desperately needed system wide! I reflect the opposition I come up against You've not presented anything that is worth debating simply because you ignore facts and/or do not understand simple economic and/or accounting concept You are a straight reflection of the Liberal party! The simple Economic concepts you refer to, are simply a reflection of the past, they no longer have current &or future credibilty, as will be clearly on display Locally & Globally, over the years ahead! As for debating, you do not debate facts, such as what I repeatedly post, because you know it isn't a discussion you have any chance of winning, such as some of the issues raised in the following & related posts! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43 As usual Maqqa, you are happy to get into the SPIN, but disappear when it comes to discussions of real substance, particularly on current & future Economic issues!

You continue to confirm your reputation Maqqa, right into SPIN, BUT run a mile from discussions of real substance, particularly on current & future Economic issues, just like both Abbott & Rudd!

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 12^th, 2013 at 11:02am:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 7:33pm: perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Maqqa wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 2:58pm: perceptions_now wrote on Aug 11th, 2013 at 2:50pm: Well, there is certainly no mistaking your Political Leaning, as you do put it succinctly! However, your arguments reasoning is normally far from being succinct or reasoned! As for you saying I am being or hitting "middle of the road", I have already said that I am not a fence sitter, I most likely got that allocation on the Vote Compass chart because I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WHOLE POLITICAL & ECONOMIC SYSTEM IS NOW NOT RECOGNIZING REALITY and that change is desperately needed system wide! I reflect the opposition I come up against You've not presented anything that is worth debating simply because you ignore facts and/or do not understand simple economic and/or accounting concept You are a straight reflection of the Liberal party! The simple Economic concepts you refer to, are simply a reflection of the past, they no longer have current &or future credibilty, as will be clearly on display Locally & Globally, over the years ahead! As for debating, you do not debate facts, such as what I repeatedly post, because you know it isn't a discussion you have any chance of winning, such as some of the issues raised in the following & related posts! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1375798381/43#43 As usual Maqqa, you are happy to get into the SPIN, but disappear when it comes to discussions of real substance, particularly on current & future Economic issues! You continue to confirm your reputation Maqqa, right into SPIN, BUT run a mile from discussions of real substance, particularly on current & future Economic issues, just like both Abbott & Rudd!

Maqqa surrenders & admits, she has zero knowledge about Economics, particularly on current & future Economic issues, just like both Abbott/Liberals & Rudd/Labor!

Quote:

Maqqa surrenders & admits, she has zero knowledge about Economics, particularly on current & future Economic issues, just like both Abbott/Liberals & Rudd/Labor!

Perceptions now

I take it that youre an expert, you know economic stuff do you ?

stryder wrote on Aug 12^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

Quote: Maqqa surrenders & admits, she has zero knowledge about Economics, particularly on current & future Economic issues, just like both Abbott/Liberals & Rudd/Labor! Perceptions now I take it that youre an expert, you know economic stuff do you?

Most Expert's are best referred to, as follows -
'ex' is a has been, 'spurt' is a drip under pressure.

I have a fair understanding of what is currently influencing Local & Global Economics, much of which is once in history.
Certainly, my understanding is much greater than Maqqa's and indeed most of the so called "Economic ExSpurts, including those Labor & Liberal so called ExSpurts!

Talking of ExSpurts, I see a great deal of commentary, now that the Federal election has been called & is under way, about the outcome of this election.

Many, if not most see the outcome in terms of their own Liberal/Labor leanings, resulting in either a Liberal or Labor win.

Personally, I have said for some time, that I see a likely Liberal win, mainly due to Labor having been in power for some time, that the OZ Economy is in trouble, the Public will look for someone to make things better (like it was) and therefore sufficient will turn to the Libs, so that the Libs can form a government.

However, it is now unlikely that there will be a landslide, which was possible not too long ago, unless some LARGE STUFF UP arrives, too complicate issues.

So, the likelihood is a relatively small  victory, BUT still for the Liberals.

Will that solve everyone's perceived problems, particularly Economic ones?
REGRETTABLY, THE ANSWER IS NO! At least no, not very likely!

The facts would strongly suggest that the incoming Liberal government would revert to "their past DNA" and impose an across the board AUS-terity program, which would most likely have worked at almost any other time in modern history & eventually the Economy would have bounced back, due to "normal factors".

However, at this moment in history, there are once in history factors which are impacting the Local & Global Economy AND NOW, AN ACROSS THE BOARD AUS-TERITY PROGRAM WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG THING, AT ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG TIME!

I would suggest, a good place for the winners of this election (likely Liberals) to START after the election, would be a SYSTEM WIDE REVIEW, with the Henry Tax Review as a basis, BUT the review must not be purely on the Tax system, IT MUST BE A WHOLE OF GOVERNMENT REVIEW, WITH NOTHING BEING OFF LIMITS & ALL POLLIES MUST BEAR IN MIND AT ALL TIMES THAT THE BASIC AIM IS THE BEST,  LONG TERM INTERESTS OF ALL AUSTRALIANS, not their own short term interests & those of their supporters! 

So, to the OZ Public, I wish us the best future possible & to all of the Pollies, it's not about you!

Labor MPs 'warned not to criticise Tony Abbott for saying his candidate has sex appeal'

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/special-features/labor-mps-8216warned-not-to-criticise-tony-abbott-for-saying-his-candidate-has-sex-appeal8217/story-fnho52jp-1226696398223
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I would think there are more substantive issues about, for our Pollies to get into & comment on!

Oh & btw, PLEASE or as Maqqa would say FFS, can all Pollies STOP repeating words for additional emphasis, it is absolutely boring!!!

Barry O'Farrell's Liberal machine as rotten as Labor's

Perhaps the most telling aspect of the now infamous thank-you note that ended Barry O’Farrell’s premiership this week is that it was sent so soon after his bone-crushing election victory. This was a man who swept to power thanks largely to the insufferable stench of corruption that had engulfed NSW Labor. Thus was Labor’s position apparently unrecoverable, and O’Farrell apparently invincible. All he had to do was stay clean.

And yet, there he was, personally accepting an expensive gift from compromised people, marking his gratitude in ink. I’m prepared to believe he genuinely has no recollection of this. But that only underscores the fact that he saw nothing remarkable about the exchange at all; that even as he must have been hawk-eyed about anything that even remotely connected to the corruption that destroyed Labor, he saw this kind of give and take as standard practice.

And on this score, he’s probably right. It’s highly unlikely O’Farrell has a uniquely malfunctioning radar, or that he is more corruptible than his colleagues. Au contraire, the truly remarkable fact is that the Liberals to have been so entangled in this Obeidian octopus have been those widely acknowledged as the best, the straightest, the most upright of them: O’Farrell and Arthur Sinodinos.

That tells us plenty. Not so much about the character of these men, but about the nature of the world they routinely inhabit. Until now, the story of NSW corruption has been presented as a thoroughly Labor one, backed at the federal level by the spectre of union corruption so vast it now demands its own royal commission. At every opportunity, the Liberal Party has sought to make this connection.
The point was clear: that the rot was Labor’s rot.

There are shades of difference but they are both ultimately similar machines directed at similar goals and subject to the same power plays and moral compromises. At bottom, they represent the same subculture that is the profession of modern politics.

That is why, away from the public show of political conflict, politicians tend to get along surprisingly well with each other, in much the same way as members of most other professions do. The professionalisation of politics does not merely mean our political class is drawn from a narrow set of backgrounds. It also means they have markedly similar experiences and move in very similar circles once they’re there.
Eddie Obeid might have been Labor’s heart of darkness, but he was only ever a step or two away from the nearest senior Liberal.

There’s a self-reinforcing system at play here, of favours and networking and dealing utterly divorced from the democratic process.

That’s the nature of such entrenched systems. Reform becomes too hard. You can have all the wake-up calls in the world, but you can also determinedly sleep through them.

In some ways Tony Abbott is right to describe O’Farrell as ‘‘honourable’’ for falling so readily on his sword. It is true he has acted swiftly, decisively and apparently with the kind of accountability so few ministers are prepared to exhibit when scandal strikes. In a saner world this might be a sacrificial act that rehabilitates the nobility of politicians.

But it is far from clear this will be the legacy of O’Farrell’s demise. Rather, this could become the moment that gave tangible expression to what so much of the electorate has already intuited: that there is something hopelessly compromised about the very culture of mainstream Australian politics.

They’re all bad guys now.

They’re all in it for themselves to the point they don’t even know - or simply can’t remember - when they’re breaching our trust. Clearly that’s not true at an individual level, but it doesn’t have to be if it becomes received wisdom. In short, we’re witnessing the slow motion desecration of the whole idea of politics.

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/2226876/barry-ofarrells-liberal-machine-as-rotten-as-labors/?cs=304
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Mostly accurate AND IT WILL REQUIRE THE PUBLIC TO DELIVER SOME VERY CLEAR MESSAGES TO ALL POLITICAL PARTIES, OVER SOME TIME, IN ORDER FOR THE SYSTEM & THE POLITICIANS TO CHANGE, SO THEY STOP FEATHERING THEIR OWN SHORT TERM INTERESTS AND THOSE OF THEIR "SUPPORTERS" & START PROPERLY LOOKING AFTER THE ENTIRE PUBLIC'S LONG TERM INTERESTS!

perceptions_now wrote on Apr 18^th, 2014 at 11:58am:

Barry O'Farrell's Liberal machine as rotten as Labor's Perhaps the most telling aspect of the now infamous thank-you note that ended Barry O’Farrell’s premiership this week is that it was sent so soon after his bone-crushing election victory. This was a man who swept to power thanks largely to the insufferable stench of corruption that had engulfed NSW Labor. Thus was Labor’s position apparently unrecoverable, and O’Farrell apparently invincible. All he had to do was stay clean. And yet, there he was, personally accepting an expensive gift from compromised people, marking his gratitude in ink. I’m prepared to believe he genuinely has no recollection of this. But that only underscores the fact that he saw nothing remarkable about the exchange at all; that even as he must have been hawk-eyed about anything that even remotely connected to the corruption that destroyed Labor, he saw this kind of give and take as standard practice.

couldnt not agree less with all that tosh..

it was a gift for WINNING the bloody election....

it was unfortunately a gift that should have been declared...he took it a s a personal gift..as a point was made to refer to his year of birth I would have done as well..

I do not believe he did not remember said bottle.. but I do believe he forgot about the thank you note.. and obviously what type of people he had been dealing with..

should he have sent the bottle back?????.. no but he should have declared it and not lied about it....

but I do not believe anyone who receives an expensive bottle made the year your were born.. would n ot think that was a personal gift..

maybe that creep wanted him to do that.. he looks like someone who would tape every conversation for future blackmail.

If his memory is that bad, maybe it's best that he's not holding such an important position in government.

All pollies with early onset Alzheimer's should step down immediately......oh wait! parliament would be empty.

cods wrote on Apr 18^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Apr 18th, 2014 at 11:58am: Barry O'Farrell's Liberal machine as rotten as Labor's Perhaps the most telling aspect of the now infamous thank-you note that ended Barry O’Farrell’s premiership this week is that it was sent so soon after his bone-crushing election victory. This was a man who swept to power thanks largely to the insufferable stench of corruption that had engulfed NSW Labor. Thus was Labor’s position apparently unrecoverable, and O’Farrell apparently invincible. All he had to do was stay clean. And yet, there he was, personally accepting an expensive gift from compromised people, marking his gratitude in ink. I’m prepared to believe he genuinely has no recollection of this. But that only underscores the fact that he saw nothing remarkable about the exchange at all; that even as he must have been hawk-eyed about anything that even remotely connected to the corruption that destroyed Labor, he saw this kind of give and take as standard practice. couldnt not agree less with all that tosh.. it was a gift for WINNING the bloody election.... it was unfortunately a gift that should have been declared...he took it a s a personal gift..as a point was made to refer to his year of birth I would have done as well.. I do not believe he did not remember said bottle.. but I do believe he forgot about the thank you note.. and obviously what type of people he had been dealing with.. should he have sent the bottle back?????.. no but he should have declared it and not lied about it.... but I do not believe anyone who receives an expensive bottle made the year your were born.. would n ot think that was a personal gift.. maybe that creep wanted him to do that.. he looks like someone who would tape every conversation for future blackmail.

Well Cods, it would seem that we must agree to disagree!

I concur with the articles author, when he says -

They’re all bad guys now.

They’re all in it for themselves to the point they don’t even know - or simply can’t remember - when they’re breaching our trust. Clearly that’s not true at an individual level, but it doesn’t have to be if it becomes received wisdom. In short, we’re witnessing the slow motion desecration of the whole idea of politics.