after all their moral outrage regarding Slippers or Thommo, on the basis of character, it seems they don't care about someones character or shady past after all.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/18524399/abbott-stands-by-police-officer-candidate/

:D


hmmmmmm, smell the fear

the bourgeoisie class controls the drug trade... :P

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

after all their moral outrage regarding Slippers or Thommo, on the basis of character, it seems they don't care about someones character or shady past after all. http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/18524399/abbott-stands-by-police-officer-candidate/

I'm actually not impressed by what I've just read.

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

after all their moral outrage regarding Slippers or Thommo, on the basis of character, it seems they don't care about someones character or shady past after all. http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/18524399/abbott-stands-by-police-officer-candidate/

John Smith

So the guy socialised with a drug dealer ???

Is this the best you can come up with ?

Its very common for police to do such for many reasons, there is a theory that law enforcement people and criminals are often like minded.

So what your saying is that we should exclude all people from politics that have been associated with drug dealers ?

What about brothel owners, bikie gangs and trade unions lets at them to the list.

Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 2:17pm: after all their moral outrage regarding Slippers or Thommo, on the basis of character, it seems they don't care about someones character or shady past after all. http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/18524399/abbott-stands-by-police-officer-candidate/ John Smith So the guy socialised with a drug dealer ??? Is this the best you can come up with ? Its very common for police to do such for many reasons, there is a theory that law enforcement people and criminals are often like minded. So what your saying is that we should exclude all people from politics that have been associated with drug dealers ? What about brothel owners, bikie gangs and trade unions lets at them to the list.

you were all whinging when Albanese had a beer with Thommo ... I think it's only fair we maintain a level of consistency

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

longy shows his stupidity  ..... again

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again

The Labor party is one big criminal enterprise with the Unions as the head mafia boss.

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again The Labor party is one big criminal enterprise with the Unions as the head mafia boss.

the mafia would never run a deficit ...... 

John Smith

Why would I have a problem with AnphoneyAllButKnees doing something politically dumb ?

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

after all their moral outrage regarding Slippers or Thommo, on the basis of character, it seems they don't care about someones character or shady past after all. http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/18524399/abbott-stands-by-police-officer-candidate/

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Your losing the dam plot Joan.

Go have a bex and a nap dear.

;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again

Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex 

by: Sian Powell
From: The Australian 
May 21, 2008 12:00AM

FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months. 
 
The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges.

His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written.

As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced.

Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing.

Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs.


heres one Johnny

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:20pm:

:D hmmmmmm, smell the fear

what about Tanya Plibersek isnt she married to one.... huhum a druggie..... well isnt being one worse than associating with one...

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:07pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny

wrong, he is not a member of the ALP

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:49pm:

Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

But this isn't about Labor, longy, it's about the Liberals.

Hypocrite.

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again

hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho

rex  jackson..10years taking bribes.for early release from jail..
richard face.3 year good behavior bond
keith wright. child sex..8years.
bill D'Arcy .. child sex..11years
P,Nuttall
Brien Burke... twice in jail...

theres heaps more if you are interested???????//

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny wrong, he is not a member of the ALP

Wrong wrong wrong, Johhny smith, he is not a member now, but he was before the child sex case ruined him

According to wikipedia

In November 2006, New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma dismissed him as a Minister and of a member of the Australian Labor Party after he was charged with child sex and other offences. The following week, he resigned as MP for the state electorate of Swansea. On 14 March 2008, Orkopoulos was convicted on charges relating to child sex offences and the supply of drugs. In May 2008, he was sentenced to 13 years in jail.

From 1995 until 1999, Orkopoulos represented the ALP on Lake Macquarie City Council. In March 1999, he was elected to represent Swansea in the Legislative Assembly for Labor, and joined the Socialist Left faction. In August 2005 he was promoted to the front bench, serving in the low-profile portfolios of Aboriginal Affairs and Citizenship.[1]

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D But this isn't about Labor, longy, it's about the Liberals. Hypocrite.

we know you dont really want to know.. that dill john smith has just opened a pandoras box.... ;D ;D ;D

sorry peter couldnt help myself....

didnt the labor party just get rid of two candidates before they bring more shame onto the party???? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

dont forget these are all people welcomed like long lost brothers into the ALP..

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:16pm: stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny wrong, he is not a member of the ALP Wrong, wrong, wrong. According to wikipedia In November 2006, New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma dismissed him as a Minister and of a member of the Australian Labor Party after he was charged with child sex and other offences. The following week, he resigned as MP for the state electorate of Swansea. On 14 March 2008, Orkopoulos was convicted on charges relating to child sex offences and the supply of drugs. In May 2008, he was sentenced to 13 years in jail. From 1995 until 1999, Orkopoulos represented the ALP on Lake Macquarie City Council. In March 1999, he was elected to represent Swansea in the Legislative Assembly for Labor, and joined the Socialist Left faction. In August 2005 he was promoted to the front bench, serving in the low-profile portfolios of Aboriginal Affairs and Citizenship.[1]

the ignorance from the left is ASTOUNDING..

does he know that even after his conviction.. certain members of the ALP were visiting him in jail and doing all they could to get him out..as they didnt b elieve he was a paedophile ... >:( >:( they ,made me sick just as much as he did

No need for apologies, cods. Friends don't work that way. ;)

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

So the guy socialised with a drug dealer ???

And now he is a Liberal candidate.

Can't the Liberal Party find candidates who don't socialise with serious criminals?



RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Is this the best you can come up with ?

Yeah at least he wasn't socialising with rapists or murderers.



RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

Its very common for police to do such...

Troubling. Sounds like we need an investigation.



RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

there is a theory that law enforcement people and criminals are often like minded.

I have a theory that politicians and criminals are like-minded.



RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

So what your saying is that we should exclude all people from politics that have been associated with drug dealers ?

That would be a good start. I would say anyone who socialises with any serious crims should not be involved in politics.


RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

What about brothel owners, bikie gangs and trade unions lets at them to the list.

I am happy for the government to criminalise brothels. Are you suggesting that trade unions be criminalised?

Peter Freedman wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:32pm:

No need for apologies, cods. Friends don't work that way. ;)

thanks pete... things are hotting up... a bit of biff is coming in so watch my right... wont you???.. ;) ;)

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 2:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 2:17pm: after all their moral outrage regarding Slippers or Thommo, on the basis of character, it seems they don't care about someones character or shady past after all. http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/18524399/abbott-stands-by-police-officer-candidate/ John Smith So the guy socialised with a drug dealer ??? Is this the best you can come up with ? Its very common for police to do such for many reasons, there is a theory that law enforcement people and criminals are often like minded. So what your saying is that we should exclude all people from politics that have been associated with drug dealers ? What about brothel owners, bikie gangs and trade unions lets at them to the list.

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/thefw.com/files/2013/03/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Face.jpg

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny wrong, he is not a member of the ALP

are you stupid or something?

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:16pm: stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny wrong, he is not a member of the ALP are you stupid or something?

Are you?

He said:  "show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor".

He is not a member of Labor now, and he was not a member of Labor when he was convicted.

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho rex  jackson..10years taking bribes.for early release from jail.. richard face.3 year good behavior bond keith wright. child sex..8years. bill D'Arcy .. child sex..11years P,Nuttall Brien Burke... twice in jail... theres heaps more if you are interested???????//

Let's not forget Mr Travel Rort himself the Very Honourable Brian Joseph Langton:


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In April 1998, Langton relinquished his ministerial duties due to his involvement in a political scandal, after the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) found him guilty of corruptly rorting charter plane expenses. The ICAC deemed that Langton had sought advantage for himself by deliberate deception of the Parliamentary Accounts Department.[1][2] Langton stepped down at the 1999 state election, and left politics with a $90,000 indexed entitlement.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Langton

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 6:21pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:16pm: stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny wrong, he is not a member of the ALP are you stupid or something? Are you? He said:  "show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor". He is not a member of Labor now, and he was not a member of Labor when he was convicted.

and if this were a court of law etc that distinction might be notable although not meaningful but to describe it as pedantic is being generous.

I am constantly amazed by the depth of dumbness that labor supporters exhibit when they want to talk about dubious behaviour among the Libs.  This is an area of debate that a labor supporter with half a brain (ok there might be the problem) would avoid like the plage.  But no... the dopes charge right in and then wonder why the dozens of jailed labor MPs get mentioned.

IN any debate you would think that the best course of action would be to go to a topic where you have strengths and not to topics where you have dozens of skeletons in the closet and many of them children...

I am sure that you share this (unadmitted) frustration with your fellow travellers and True Believers.

Bourgeoisie organized crime and capitalism ships in the drugs from their opium crops in Afghanistan and the golden triangle... 8-)

Thanks Saladin. Anymore?

The answer is yes:


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David Parker, a Labor  Minister under Burke and later Deputy Premier, jailed for 18 months. Perjury, having lied to the Royal Commission investigating corruption.

and.....


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Merrilyn ‘Merri’ Rose, Labor Minister for (again) Racing, Tourism & Fair Trade, 18 months jail for extortion.

and........


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Terry Martin liked being a Labor MP. He also liked having sex with and taking explicit sexual photographs of a 12 year old child. It was for his deciding to vote against Labor that the Party disowned him, not his pedophiliac tendencies, which does seem, after all, to be moving along quite nicely as a fine Labor tradition. Martin was convicted on pedophilia and creating child pornography charges, his sentence suspended due to his medical condition (Parkinson’s Disease).

and.....


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Phuong Ngo was an ALP poster boy, a Vietnamese refugee made good, being groomed by Labor to take up a seat in Parliament. Ngo’s on-going conflict with Parliamentarian John Newman was escalating quickly and, on 5 September 1994, Ngo had Newman shot and killed in the driveway of his home. Speculation as to the extent of the conspiracy beyond Ngo into Labor ranks continue, with  ALP MP John Della Bosca asking junior MP Reba Meagher to vie for Newman’s seat an hour before his murder. Although the conspiracy links were never proven, the rumors of the extent of who knew what about Newman’s assassination have never settled. Ngo remains in strong communication with top ALP figures from his cell in Long Bay Maximum Security prison where he was sentenced “never to be released”.

and.....

Oh hell, we could be here until Xmas ;D ;D ;D

The Australian Labor Party is the 'enlightened and progressive' party.

salad in wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Thanks Saladin. Anymore? The answer is yes: Quote: David Parker, a Labor  Minister under Burke and later Deputy Premier, jailed for 18 months. Perjury, having lied to the Royal Commission investigating corruption. and..... [quote] Merrilyn ‘Merri’ Rose, Labor Minister for (again) Racing, Tourism & Fair Trade, 18 months jail for extortion.

and........


Quote:

Terry Martin liked being a Labor MP. He also liked having sex with and taking explicit sexual photographs of a 12 year old child. It was for his deciding to vote against Labor that the Party disowned him, not his pedophiliac tendencies, which does seem, after all, to be moving along quite nicely as a fine Labor tradition. Martin was convicted on pedophilia and creating child pornography charges, his sentence suspended due to his medical condition (Parkinson’s Disease).

and.....


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Phuong Ngo was an ALP poster boy, a Vietnamese refugee made good, being groomed by Labor to take up a seat in Parliament. Ngo’s on-going conflict with Parliamentarian John Newman was escalating quickly and, on 5 September 1994, Ngo had Newman shot and killed in the driveway of his home. Speculation as to the extent of the conspiracy beyond Ngo into Labor ranks continue, with  ALP MP John Della Bosca asking junior MP Reba Meagher to vie for Newman’s seat an hour before his murder. Although the conspiracy links were never proven, the rumors of the extent of who knew what about Newman’s assassination have never settled. Ngo remains in strong communication with top ALP figures from his cell in Long Bay Maximum Security prison where he was sentenced “never to be released”.

and.....

Oh hell, we could be here until Xmas ;D ;D ;D

The Australian Labor Party is the 'enlightened and progressive' party.
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The Libs are not without their duds, but Labor has the CONVICTED CRIMINAL section well covered.

True Colours

So you put a lot of effort in saying nothing ?

Clearly you have no idea how the police operate.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 6:21pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:16pm: stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny wrong, he is not a member of the ALP are you stupid or something? Are you? He said:  "show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor". He is not a member of Labor now, and he was not a member of Labor when he was convicted.

and he questions everyone else's understanding of the subtleties of the English language

cods wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:31pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:28pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:16pm: stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny wrong, he is not a member of the ALP Wrong, wrong, wrong. According to wikipedia In November 2006, New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma dismissed him as a Minister and of a member of the Australian Labor Party after he was charged with child sex and other offences. The following week, he resigned as MP for the state electorate of Swansea. On 14 March 2008, Orkopoulos was convicted on charges relating to child sex offences and the supply of drugs. In May 2008, he was sentenced to 13 years in jail. From 1995 until 1999, Orkopoulos represented the ALP on Lake Macquarie City Council. In March 1999, he was elected to represent Swansea in the Legislative Assembly for Labor, and joined the Socialist Left faction. In August 2005 he was promoted to the front bench, serving in the low-profile portfolios of Aboriginal Affairs and Citizenship.[1] the ignorance from the left is ASTOUNDING.. does he know that even after his conviction.. certain members of the ALP were visiting him in jail and doing all they could to get him out..as they didnt b elieve he was a paedophile ... >:( >:( they ,made me sick just as much as he did

your another one who doesn't understand English ... I've never questioned the fact that they were charged, I've also never questioned the fact that they were once members of the ALP ... but the ALP dismisses their membership once they find out about any wrongdoing ... if you knew about Mr Orkopoulos behaviour before they made him a minister you should have told them, they never would have made him minister ...

the liberal guy on the other hand is being recruited despite his shady past ... do you see a difference yet Cods?

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 4:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:16pm: stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny wrong, he is not a member of the ALP Wrong wrong wrong, Johhny smith, he is not a member now, but he was before the child sex case ruined him According to wikipedia In November 2006, New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma dismissed him as a Minister and of a member of the Australian Labor Party after he was charged with child sex and other offences. The following week, he resigned as MP for the state electorate of Swansea. On 14 March 2008, Orkopoulos was convicted on charges relating to child sex offences and the supply of drugs. In May 2008, he was sentenced to 13 years in jail. From 1995 until 1999, Orkopoulos represented the ALP on Lake Macquarie City Council. In March 1999, he was elected to represent Swansea in the Legislative Assembly for Labor, and joined the Socialist Left faction. In August 2005 he was promoted to the front bench, serving in the low-profile portfolios of Aboriginal Affairs and Citizenship.[1]

that was my point Stryder ... the kicked him out once they found out about him ...

whats wrong with you people , I'm writing in English aren't I?

salad in wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:26pm: hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho rex  jackson..10years taking bribes.for early release from jail.. richard face.3 year good behavior bond keith wright. child sex..8years. bill D'Arcy .. child sex..11years P,Nuttall Brien Burke... twice in jail... theres heaps more if you are interested???????// Let's not forget Mr Travel Rort himself the Very Honourable Brian Joseph Langton: Quote: In April 1998, Langton relinquished his ministerial duties due to his involvement in a political scandal, after the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) found him guilty of corruptly rorting charter plane expenses. The ICAC deemed that Langton had sought advantage for himself by deliberate deception of the Parliamentary Accounts Department.[1][2] Langton stepped down at the 1999 state election, and left politics with a $90,000 indexed entitlement.[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Langton

and how many of them remained members of the ALP after they were found out?

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:42pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:28pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:16pm: stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny wrong, he is not a member of the ALP Wrong wrong wrong, Johhny smith, he is not a member now, but he was before the child sex case ruined him According to wikipedia In November 2006, New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma dismissed him as a Minister and of a member of the Australian Labor Party after he was charged with child sex and other offences. The following week, he resigned as MP for the state electorate of Swansea. On 14 March 2008, Orkopoulos was convicted on charges relating to child sex offences and the supply of drugs. In May 2008, he was sentenced to 13 years in jail. From 1995 until 1999, Orkopoulos represented the ALP on Lake Macquarie City Council. In March 1999, he was elected to represent Swansea in the Legislative Assembly for Labor, and joined the Socialist Left faction. In August 2005 he was promoted to the front bench, serving in the low-profile portfolios of Aboriginal Affairs and Citizenship.[1] that was my point Stryder ... the kicked him out once they found out about him ... whats wrong with you people , I'm writing in English aren't I?

He committed the crimes of sex with underage boys when he was a member of the labor party and held a senior position, is that better  ;D ;D

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 6:33pm:

and if this were a court of law etc that distinction might be notable although not meaningful but to describe it as pedantic is being generous

you are kidding aren't you? Pedantic? that was the whole argument you fvcken moron

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 8:42pm: stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:28pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:16pm: stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 4:07pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:49pm: Labor has convicted pedophiles, criminals, embezzlers, rapists and drug dealers in its ranks and the best you can come up with is a liberal ASSOCIATING with one? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D really? show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D longy shows his stupidity  ..... again Milton Orkopoulos jailed for child sex  by: Sian Powell From: The Australian  May 21, 2008 12:00AM FORMER MP Milton Orkopoulos showed no emotion when a judge threw the book at him today, sentencing him to a hefty 13 years and 11 months' prison, with a non-parole period of nine years and three months.    The former NSW Aboriginal affairs minister had remained impassive throughout judge Ralph Coolahan's sentencing on 30 child sex and drugs charges. His only moment of emotion came when the Newcastle District Court judge referred to Orkopoulos's sister, Sofia, and references she had written. As Judge Coolahan told the court that Sofia had written that her affection for her brother remained unchanged, Orkopoulos's lip quivered and he grimaced. Two of Orkopoulos's victims were present in court for his sentencing. Both had testified they had been molested by him as underage boys, and both testified he had supplied them with drugs. heres one Johnny wrong, he is not a member of the ALP Wrong wrong wrong, Johhny smith, he is not a member now, but he was before the child sex case ruined him According to wikipedia In November 2006, New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma dismissed him as a Minister and of a member of the Australian Labor Party after he was charged with child sex and other offences. The following week, he resigned as MP for the state electorate of Swansea. On 14 March 2008, Orkopoulos was convicted on charges relating to child sex offences and the supply of drugs. In May 2008, he was sentenced to 13 years in jail. From 1995 until 1999, Orkopoulos represented the ALP on Lake Macquarie City Council. In March 1999, he was elected to represent Swansea in the Legislative Assembly for Labor, and joined the Socialist Left faction. In August 2005 he was promoted to the front bench, serving in the low-profile portfolios of Aboriginal Affairs and Citizenship.[1] that was my point Stryder ... the kicked him out once they found out about him ... whats wrong with you people , I'm writing in English aren't I? He committed the crimes of sex with underage boys when he was a member of the labor party and held a senior position, is that better  ;D ;D

no,not at all better . When other members of the ALP found out was he allowed to remain a member??

Or did you think because he knew what he was doing he was going to expel himself? You think someone who would molest kids will suddenly develop morals over a party membership??

Quote:

no,not at all better . When other members of the ALP found out was he allowed to remain a member?? Or did you think because he knew what he was doing he was going to expel himself? You think someone who would molest kids will suddenly develop morals over a party membership??

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D, Your argument on distinction when he was a labor member or not anymore is sooo over reaching, that im finding you too funny.

The fact is Milton Orkopoulos committed the crimes when he was a member of the labor party and holding a senior position and there is no single argument that can refute that, you can try smithie but you will just come across as more of clown on this.

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 8:56pm:

Quote: no,not at all better . When other members of the ALP found out was he allowed to remain a member?? Or did you think because he knew what he was doing he was going to expel himself? You think someone who would molest kids will suddenly develop morals over a party membership?? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D, Your argument on distinction when he was a labor member or not anymore is sooo over reaching, that im finding you too funny. The fact is he committed the crimes when he was a member of the labor party and holding a senior position and there is no single argument that can refute that, you can try smithie but you will just come across as more of clown on this.

I suggest you go back and read the sequence of threads again, you seem to have missed something .... scrap that, your on a wholly different planet.

No one is disputing that he was a member of the ALP you fool ....

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 9:05pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 8:56pm: Quote: no,not at all better . When other members of the ALP found out was he allowed to remain a member?? Or did you think because he knew what he was doing he was going to expel himself? You think someone who would molest kids will suddenly develop morals over a party membership?? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D, Your argument on distinction when he was a labor member or not anymore is sooo over reaching, that im finding you too funny. The fact is he committed the crimes when he was a member of the labor party and holding a senior position and there is no single argument that can refute that, you can try smithie but you will just come across as more of clown on this. I suggest you go back and read the sequence of threads again, you seem to have missed something .... scrap that, your on a wholly different planet. No one is disputing that he was a member of the ALP you fool ....

Good then my point is made and got through to you finally, after all your spinning on distinction of when he was and wasnt a member.

stryder wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 9:05pm: stryder wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 8:56pm: Quote: no,not at all better . When other members of the ALP found out was he allowed to remain a member?? Or did you think because he knew what he was doing he was going to expel himself? You think someone who would molest kids will suddenly develop morals over a party membership?? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D, Your argument on distinction when he was a labor member or not anymore is sooo over reaching, that im finding you too funny. The fact is he committed the crimes when he was a member of the labor party and holding a senior position and there is no single argument that can refute that, you can try smithie but you will just come across as more of clown on this. I suggest you go back and read the sequence of threads again, you seem to have missed something .... scrap that, your on a wholly different planet. No one is disputing that he was a member of the ALP you fool .... Good then my point is made and got through to you finally, after all your spinning on distinction of when he was and wasnt a member.

hilarious............he has disputed they were members all the way through this thread... and now he claims he wasnt disputing that fact.....and its all there in black and white...

its exhausting isnt it stryder? dealing with morons and idiots all rolled into one.

I havent looked to see what reaction he got to his request for 10 people in the future to get charged !!!!!! its too hard to deal with... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:50pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 2:39pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 2:17pm: after all their moral outrage regarding Slippers or Thommo, on the basis of character, it seems they don't care about someones character or shady past after all. http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/18524399/abbott-stands-by-police-officer-candidate/ John Smith So the guy socialised with a drug dealer ??? Is this the best you can come up with ? Its very common for police to do such for many reasons, there is a theory that law enforcement people and criminals are often like minded. So what your saying is that we should exclude all people from politics that have been associated with drug dealers ? What about brothel owners, bikie gangs and trade unions lets at them to the list. you were all whinging when Albanese had a beer with Thommo ... I think it's only fair we maintain a level of consistency

Albanese is the Deputy Prime Minister! There's a big difference! For the record, it was an incredibly stupid thing for him to do during an election campaign where Labor already has enough headaches without needing Albanese creating another one.

Armchair_Politician

I don't get the point of this thread .... an ex-cop that no one knows is trying to become an MP and the crime of the century (apparently) is that he has socialised with a drug dealer that no one knows and this is meant to be highly politically damaging ?

So cops should only socialise with people who have clean records ?

I prefer cops who know who the criminals are, how they act beyond that is up to their own conscience.


I guess I have to say "Smell the Fear"

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:25am:

So cops should only socialise with people who have clean records ?

Cops shouldn't socialise with heroin dealers...and neither should politicians.

I am happy for both to lose their jobs for consorting with criminals.

cods wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 7:51am:

hilarious............he has disputed they were members all the way through this thread... and now he claims he wasnt disputing that fact.....and its all there in black and white...

Incorrect.  Go back and read the posts again.

It was claimed that he was a member of the ALP when he was convicted.  That claim is quite simply wrong.

Nobody is disputing the fact that he was a member of the ALP before he was convicted.  Absolutely no-one.

To refresh your memory:

"show me anyone who was convicted of any of those thing, and is a member of labor?"

He was convicted, but was not a member of Labor at the time.  Moreover, he's not an ALP member now.

Capiche?

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 9:04am:

Capiche?

I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English.

True Colours wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 8:25am: So cops should only socialise with people who have clean records ? Cops shouldn't socialise with heroin dealers...and neither should politicians. I am happy for both to lose their jobs for consorting with criminals.

True Colours

According to you ?

Nothing to add other than babbling ?

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English.

I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious

Quote:

"I was later promoted to Inspector and went on to become Superintendent of Cabramatta, Fairfield and Liverpool local area commands."

They put the drinking mate of a high level drug dealer in charge of Fairfield, Cabramatta ??????

If Labor had the low moral standing the Liberals do they would treat this guy in the same manner that Thomson and Slipper were treated.

Anyone want to see this sent back to be re investigated about 7 times ??

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:50am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious

There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted.

If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot.

Well?

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:55am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted. If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot. Well?

;D ;D ;D ;D Just like I said

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:56am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:55am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted. If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot. Well?   Just like I said

White flag accepted.

Next!

True Colours wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 8:25am: So cops should only socialise with people who have clean records ? Cops shouldn't socialise with heroin dealers...and neither should politicians. I am happy for both to lose their jobs for consorting with criminals.

Criminals mainly want to socialise with Politicians and police because of the benefits and protection that can come from the relationship. This type of association is the first step towards serious police corruption.

Anyone not concerned by this has rocks in their head.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:58am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:56am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:55am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted. If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot. Well?   Just like I said White flag accepted. Next!

I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post ,  ;D

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:03am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:58am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:56am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:55am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted. If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot. Well?   Just like I said White flag accepted. Next! I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post ,  ;D

No, your white flag post did that nicely.  Thank you.

I like drug dealers.
They sell me what I want.

To me they're the ultimate public servants.

In a business at great personal risk to provide the sale of a product that myself and others want.

Good on the libs to look past societies prejudices.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:03am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:58am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:56am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:55am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted. If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot. Well?   Just like I said White flag accepted. Next! I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post ,  ;D No, your white flag post did that nicely.  Thank you.

:D Oh your saw a white flag, did you ??, I couldnt imagine you would see anything apart from your useless and baseless spining on distinction on when he was and wasnt a party member,

there is no white flag, its just your not running on inteligience now, but rather stupidity.

but take it anyway you like

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:06am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:03am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:58am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:56am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:55am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted. If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot. Well?   Just like I said White flag accepted. Next! I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post ,  ;D No, your white flag post did that nicely.  Thank you. :D Oh your saw a white flag, did you ??, I couldnt imagine you would see anything apart from your useless and baseless spining on distinction on when he was and wasnt a party member,

When he was and wasn't a party member is the whole point. Haven't you been reading the thread ?

So, here's you chance then: prove me wrong.

Was he an ALP member when he was convicted? (because that's the actual point that's being disputed).

Yes, or no?

A simple question.

Do you have a simple answer?

:-/

He even has relatives of his criminal buddies working on his campaign:


Rogerson a friend of Libs' King

The sister of controversial former policeman Roger Rogerson is working on the election campaign of Ray King, the Liberal Party candidate for the western Sydney seat of McMahon.

Mr King is under pressure after Fairfax Media revealed on Friday that he had been called to front the 1996 Wood royal commission on police corruption.

He admitted to being one of a group of Fairfield detectives who provided informal security services to the Italian community Marconi Club in exchange for free meals and alcohol.

He was also subject of an internal affairs investigation over his association with Cabramatta brothel owner Salvatore ''Sammy'' Lapa. The pair were seen drinking together at the Marconi Club.

The revelation put Opposition Leader Tony Abbott under pressure to back or sack Mr King. But Mr Abbott has little option for dumping him, with nominations for the election now locked in.

Still, the matter is a bad look for the Liberal Party in western Sydney and has once again raised questions over the party's preselection processes.

Mr Abbott said Mr King was a ''highly respected policeman'' who was promoted three times after the royal commission. No adverse findings were made against him.

Fairfax Media has learnt that Mr King is a long-term friend of Mr Rogerson, the former detective who was jailed for perverting the course of Justice in 1990.

Mr King, a former local area commander at Liverpool, had a 40-year career before gaining preselection in McMahon. A senior Liberal source said Mr King had declared everything during his nomination process.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/rogerson-a-friend-of-libs-king-20130816-2s28m.html

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 10:46am:

True Colours wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 8:50am: RightSadFred wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 8:25am: So cops should only socialise with people who have clean records ? Cops shouldn't socialise with heroin dealers...and neither should politicians. I am happy for both to lose their jobs for consorting with criminals. According to you ?

I am happy for voters decide...although the issue has not been reported in the Telegraph so you have to wonder how well informed voters will be.

Federal Liberal candidate Ray King called out on claims he lives and works in McMahon

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/06/10/1226661/471732-community-forum-with-lib-candidate-for-mcmahon.jpg

LIBERAL candidate Ray King claims to have lived and worked in the seat he is trying to win in southwest Sydney for 40 years.

The problem for the former police officer is he hasn't lived in the seat of McMahon, well, forever.

In fact the Coalition's hope of taking the now marginal seat from former minister Chris Bowen, lives in Glenmore Park, in David Bradbury's neighbouring seat of Lindsay - 37km from the heart of Fairfield.

When asked why his Facebook page makes the claim that he has "lived and worked" in McMahon for four decades, Mr King said it probably wasn't worded well...  ::)

...his address for the past 25 years, and the one registered with the electoral commission, is 15km from the closest boundary to McMahon.

"There are a lot of people who don't live in their electorate," he said...

...Mr Bowen said Mr King should have come clean with his constituents.

"I do think it is important for MPs to live in the area they represent. But I think it is even more important to be honest about it when you don't," he said.

Mr King said taking the seat from Mr Bowen, who holds it by only 7.6 per cent, would be tough. "It will be a big ask," he said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/federal-liberal-candidate-ray-king-called-out-on-claims-he-lives-and-works-in-mcmahon/story-fni0cx12-1226661471880

did he call a disabled women in a wheelchair an F*BITCH  and and F#SLUT i wonder???

and I am almost sure he isnt the only one that doesnt live in the electorate.....I seem to remember a labor female MP who had a home in the electorate and one by the sea...she claimed the one in her electorate was her full time  address but she never lived there...she preferred the ocean view.....ho hum...

I think that the people of McMahon might be wondering how many children died of overdoses caused by heroin supplied by Ray King's mates.

How many homes were burgled by addicts hooked on heroin sold by Ray King's mates?

cods

Yes in NSW Barry Unsworth was the Turramurra member for Rockdale and the NSW ALP health minister Reba Meagher was the Coogee member for Cabramatta.

Its nothing new, personally if your not a true local you don't get my vote.

Both parties parachute members, the worse was Garrett ..... he grew up in Abbott's electorate, was off the electoral roll period for a decade and ended up being a member in a safe ALP seat.

Rudd new spin doctoring mush have a 100 storms in a tea cup per day KPI or something.

Are conservatives psychopaths?

How does someone who consorts with heroin dealers make a good candidate for a member of the Australian parliament?

RightSadFred wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:07pm:

cods Yes in NSW Barry Unsworth was the Turramurra member for Rockdale and the NSW ALP health minister Reba Meagher was the Coogee member for Cabramatta. Its nothing new, personally if your not a true local you don't get my vote. Both parties parachute members, the worse was Garrett ..... he grew up in Abbott's electorate, was off the electoral roll period for a decade and ended up being a member in a safe ALP seat. Rudd new spin doctoring mush have a 100 storms in a tea cup per day KPI or something.

thanks for that Fred.. Reba of course..fancy forgetting her..she twisted every little drop out of being in politics didnt she.. just like slipper and THOMO both running again to get the money..

shame shame shame.. we should shame them at the polling booths...just think $2.45 or something they will get for every vote..I hope it does them no good whatsoever.

True Colours wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:16pm:

Are conservatives psychopaths? How does someone who consorts with heroin dealers become a good candidate for a member of the Australian parliament?

well you could probably ask Tanya Pliberseks husband.. Michael Coutts Trotter..he actually served 3 years of a 9 year sentence for dealing in drugs.....and then low and behold got busted again a couple of years ago buying ecstasy..

so ask away... I am sure Tanya will give you some good answers to your question..

cods wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

True Colours wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 12:16pm: Are conservatives psychopaths? How does someone who consorts with heroin dealers become a good candidate for a member of the Australian parliament? well you could probably ask Tanya Pliberseks husband.. Michael Coutts Trotter..he actually served 3 years of a 9 year sentence for dealing in drugs...

He was a 21year-old drug addict at the time.

The difference is that he was reformed and rehabilitated by the time he married Tanya Plibersek, having undergone treatment for his drug addiction, and long given up drug dealing.




It is not just a matter of drugs, but also a matter of real, or at least perceived, corruption.

Ray King as a police officer consorted with an ongoing drug dealer who was convicted of bribing police.



Quote:

Fairfax reported today that Mr King had been the subject of an investigation by police internal affairs after a complaint was made that Mr King had been seen with heroin dealer Salvatore Lapa at the Italian community Marconi Club on multiple occasions. Lapa - who had been convicted of bribing police - was jailed for 20 years in 1993. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/abbott-stands-by-police-officer-candidate-for-mcmahon-ray-king/story-fn9qr68y-1226698334379

stryder wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:06am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:03am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:58am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:56am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:55am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted. If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot. Well?   Just like I said White flag accepted. Next! I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post ,  ;D No, your white flag post did that nicely.  Thank you. :D Oh your saw a white flag, did you ??, I couldnt imagine you would see anything apart from your useless and baseless spining on distinction on when he was and wasnt a party member, there is no white flag, its just your not running on inteligience now, but rather stupidity. but take it anyway you like

you don't see the distinction between a party that, upon discovering a member who has questionable character, throws them  out of the party, and a party that deliberately recruits those of questionable character? I guess you think Hippo's and elephants look the same too?

cods wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

True Colours wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 12:16pm: Are conservatives psychopaths? How does someone who consorts with heroin dealers become a good candidate for a member of the Australian parliament? well you could probably ask Tanya Pliberseks husband.. Michael Coutts Trotter..he actually served 3 years of a 9 year sentence for dealing in drugs.....and then low and behold got busted again a couple of years ago buying ecstasy.. so ask away... I am sure Tanya will give you some good answers to your question..

Is Tanya Pliberseks husband running for politics? In which seat is he running?

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 4:50pm:

stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:06am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:03am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:58am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:56am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:55am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted. If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot. Well?   Just like I said White flag accepted. Next! I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post ,  ;D No, your white flag post did that nicely.  Thank you. :D Oh your saw a white flag, did you ??, I couldnt imagine you would see anything apart from your useless and baseless spining on distinction on when he was and wasnt a party member, there is no white flag, its just your not running on inteligience now, but rather stupidity. but take it anyway you like you don't see the distinction between a party that, upon discovering a member who has questionable character, throws them  out of the party, and a party that deliberately recruits those of questionable character? I guess you think Hippo's and elephants look the same too?

Like Thommo?  the ALP were informed of his issues in 2007 and did nothing about it.

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 5:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 4:50pm: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:06am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:03am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:58am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:56am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:55am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted. If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot. Well?   Just like I said White flag accepted. Next! I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post ,  ;D No, your white flag post did that nicely.  Thank you. :D Oh your saw a white flag, did you ??, I couldnt imagine you would see anything apart from your useless and baseless spining on distinction on when he was and wasnt a party member, there is no white flag, its just your not running on inteligience now, but rather stupidity. but take it anyway you like you don't see the distinction between a party that, upon discovering a member who has questionable character, throws them  out of the party, and a party that deliberately recruits those of questionable character? I guess you think Hippo's and elephants look the same too? Like Thommo?  the ALP were informed of his issues in 2007 and did nothing about it.

rumours just don't cut it dopey .... they need something a little more substantive than rumours.

John Smith wrote on Aug 17^th, 2013 at 5:05pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 5:03pm: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 4:50pm: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:06am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 11:03am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:58am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:56am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:55am: stryder wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:50am: John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 10:43am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 17th, 2013 at 9:04am: Capiche? I'm having all my neighbours translate that into a few different languages ... they seem to struggle with English. I guess spinning around the distinction of when he was and wasnt a labor member is the best you can do in your argument which is becoming more hilarious There's no "argument" or hilarity about it: he is not an ALP member, and he was not an ALP member when he was convicted. If you'd like to "argue" against these facts, by all means give it your best shot. Well?   Just like I said White flag accepted. Next! I guess he needs to make himself feel better with that post ,  ;D No, your white flag post did that nicely.  Thank you. :D Oh your saw a white flag, did you ??, I couldnt imagine you would see anything apart from your useless and baseless spining on distinction on when he was and wasnt a party member, there is no white flag, its just your not running on inteligience now, but rather stupidity. but take it anyway you like you don't see the distinction between a party that, upon discovering a member who has questionable character, throws them  out of the party, and a party that deliberately recruits those of questionable character? I guess you think Hippo's and elephants look the same too? Like Thommo?  the ALP were informed of his issues in 2007 and did nothing about it. rumours just don't cut it dopey .... they need something a little more substantive than rumours.

you excuse anything from Labor and that attitude is why pedophiles join the ALP.  no one will question them as long as they win.

Seems that Abbott's friend of heroin dealers didn't get elected. With nearly 80% of the votes counted, Labor retains a 5% lead.