Would the olds also persecute them like they want to with others fleeing for their lives.

http://youtu.be/TTEMHQG0exw

they need to stand up to their government and overthrow them like men...

like the did in Egypt..

this is pretty disgusting.. what we are seeing is like a science fiction movie and you use it to political point score.. what a wretched wretched person you are....I have not seen one word from you during any of this crisis..and this is the best you have got... what a shocker. >:( >:( >:(

They need to do what Australians will be doing to the Greens in the next election, outsing them!

True Blue... wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:37pm:

they need to stand up to their government and overthrow them like men... like the did in Egypt..

I am so sickened by what is happening in the middle east and by what I see the UN doing... as usual bugger all...

its civil war. ... its like watching a storm brewing and then waiting until its full force hits you before you make a move.. its bizarre and pathetic..we have watched Israel and Palestine for years and years...but at least someone usual AMerica has stepped in and tried their best....but with Syria all I have seen is a lot of praying..... and it doesnt work.. now of course its getting really nasty really bad...how do you stop a tidalwave?...

I dont think we can now.

The question is, should we punish Syrians that get here by boat, desiring protection from persecution.

Yes or No?

cods wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:44pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 5:37pm: they need to stand up to their government and overthrow them like men... like the did in Egypt.. I am so sickened by what is happening in the middle east and by what I see the UN doing... as usual bugger all... its civil war. ... its like watching a storm brewing and then waiting until its full force hits you before you make a move.. its bizarre and pathetic..we have watched Israel and Palestine for years and years...but at least someone usual AMerica has stepped in and tried their best....but with Syria all I have seen is a lot of praying..... and it doesnt work.. now of course its getting really nasty really bad...how do you stop a tidalwave?... I dont think we can now.

Can you think of a time when there was PEACE in the Middle East?

cods wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:44pm:

True Blue... wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 5:37pm: they need to stand up to their government and overthrow them like men... like the did in Egypt.. I am so sickened by what is happening in the middle east and by what I see the UN doing... as usual bugger all... its civil war. ... its like watching a storm brewing and then waiting until its full force hits you before you make a move.. its bizarre and pathetic..we have watched Israel and Palestine for years and years...but at least someone usual AMerica has stepped in and tried their best....but with Syria all I have seen is a lot of praying..... and it doesnt work.. now of course its getting really nasty really bad...how do you stop a tidalwave?... I dont think we can now.

if you look back through history most modern countries have had their own civil wars or fought in them...

sometimes that's just what has to happen for them to move forward...

what about all the tyrants in South Africa starving their own people to death and pocketing all of the foreign aid?

the only countries the US take action in are the ones with OIL...

coincidence?

Neferti wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:49pm:

cods wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 5:44pm: True Blue... wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 5:37pm: they need to stand up to their government and overthrow them like men... like the did in Egypt.. I am so sickened by what is happening in the middle east and by what I see the UN doing... as usual bugger all... its civil war. ... its like watching a storm brewing and then waiting until its full force hits you before you make a move.. its bizarre and pathetic..we have watched Israel and Palestine for years and years...but at least someone usual AMerica has stepped in and tried their best....but with Syria all I have seen is a lot of praying..... and it doesnt work.. now of course its getting really nasty really bad...how do you stop a tidalwave?... I dont think we can now. Can you think of a time when there was PEACE in the Middle East?

bump :D

____ wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:47pm:

The question is, should we punish Syrians that get here by boat, desiring protection from persecution. Yes or No?

TPV's is all they need until things get sorted back home.  ;)

True Blue... wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:51pm:

cods wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 5:44pm: True Blue... wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 5:37pm: they need to stand up to their government and overthrow them like men... like the did in Egypt.. I am so sickened by what is happening in the middle east and by what I see the UN doing... as usual bugger all... its civil war. ... its like watching a storm brewing and then waiting until its full force hits you before you make a move.. its bizarre and pathetic..we have watched Israel and Palestine for years and years...but at least someone usual AMerica has stepped in and tried their best....but with Syria all I have seen is a lot of praying..... and it doesnt work.. now of course its getting really nasty really bad...how do you stop a tidalwave?... I dont think we can now. if you look back through history most modern countries have had their own civil wars or fought in them... sometimes that's just what has to happen for them to move forward... what about all the tyrants in South Africa starving their own people to death and pocketing all of the foreign aid? the only countries the US take action in are the ones with OIL... coincidence?

well I dont know ab out oil in Israel or Palestine...but lets face it the yanks are not in any position anymore.... and why should they anyway????.. they get bugger all thanks.

No this is something for that useless toothless UN..

what is happening now is nothing compared to even 50 years ago... now its GAS WMD.. which most claim dont exist...


yes we know about the tyrants and their deeds..again whatever has the UN done about it.?? we pay mega bucks for this useless bunch of parasites... they go on and on about the UN convention for refugees... and then we see this and not a word.. its a human disgrace....

I want to throw bricks at the UN Building.. its no more than the temples were 2000 years ago.... a bloody disgrace.

____ wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:47pm:

The question is, should we punish Syrians that get here by boat, desiring protection from persecution. Yes or No?

we should do more to stop the carnage.........more should be done to stop the slaughter.. sitting back taking in refugees is not the way to go........


dont you get that????

waiting until they are gassing each other is appalling...

it must look like the end of civilisation in Syria....

Tell you what Greens win, why don't we throw open the borders and import all the refugees in the world, maybe about a billion, would that be enough for you?

Then we can pack our  bags and go to New Zealand on the street cred of our Anzus Alliance.

Then the Muslim flag can fly over Mustralia forever.

Real Syrian refugees do not have the means to come here by boat, only fake refugees backed up with wads of cash sourced from who knows where are able to fly and sail through twenty safe havens before reaching our shores.

red baron wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 6:36pm:

Tell you what Greens win, why don't we throw open the borders and import all the refugees in the world, maybe about a billion, would that be enough for you?

There are currently about 42.5 million displaced people in the world.

Hyperbole from red?  Never!

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 8:12pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 6:36pm: Tell you what Greens win, why don't we throw open the borders and import all the refugees in the world, maybe about a billion, would that be enough for you? There are currently about 42.5 million displaced people in the world. Hyperbole from red?  Never!

By AP and ASHER ZEIGER August 19, 2013, 4:42 pm
BAGHDAD — In a mass exodus, around 30,000 Syrians have fled their homeland’s bloody civil war over the past five days and streamed across the border into neighboring Iraq’s northern self-ruled Kurdish region, the UN refugee agency said Monday.



Makes the whinging on here by some look p!ss poor......

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Lobo wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 8:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 8:12pm: red baron wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 6:36pm: Tell you what Greens win, why don't we throw open the borders and import all the refugees in the world, maybe about a billion, would that be enough for you? There are currently about 42.5 million displaced people in the world. Hyperbole from red?  Never! By AP and ASHER ZEIGER August 19, 2013, 4:42 pm BAGHDAD — In a mass exodus, around 30,000 Syrians have fled their homeland’s bloody civil war over the past five days and streamed across the border into neighboring Iraq’s northern self-ruled Kurdish region, the UN refugee agency said Monday. Makes the whinging on here by some look p!ss poor......

I would give them all a temporary protection visa and allow them to return when their stronger people over throw the government. They would have to be in custody until I could figure out who they are and they would take some places of others but I would up the numbers for such incidence.

____ wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:35pm:

Would the olds also persecute them like they want to with others fleeing for their lives.

We don't want this filth in our country. We have enough muslim filth (me included) in Australia and we don't need more.

Lobo wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 8:18pm:

By AP and ASHER ZEIGER August 19, 2013, 4:42 pm BAGHDAD — In a mass exodus, around 30,000 Syrians have fled their homeland’s bloody civil war over the past five days and streamed across the border into neighboring Iraq’s northern self-ruled Kurdish region, the UN refugee agency said Monday. Makes the whinging on here by some look p!ss poor......

Yeah, let's find a home for them in the phuking ME and not in Australia.

I've often asked what do we do if we get say 1 million reffos rock up requesting asylum??


none of the refo lovers ever answer that one?????

Neferti wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:49pm:

Can you think of a time when there was PEACE in the Middle East?

Yeah - before the British invaded and carved the place up and caused chaos.

woof woof wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 10:28pm:

I've often asked what do we do if we get say 1 million reffos rock up requesting asylum?? none of the refo lovers ever answer that one?????

If the rehearsed lines are consistent and they are assessed as being genuine we would have to accept them.  Its the rooolz.   ::)

Currently, people in most countries would like to stay in Australia, many of them deserve it, but funnily enough, we only see those, who don't deserve it, some ppl like Truecolours! Who constantly blames the Brits, yet continue to live in this "chaos".
If a country is in the mess, it's a strong indication of a bad management by the PEOPLE of this country, government is the THIRD PARTY.

woof woof wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 10:28pm:

I've often asked what do we do if we get say 1 million reffos rock up requesting asylum?? none of the refo lovers ever answer that one?????

Process their claims for asylum.

What if the unthinkable and probably unlikely occurred and for argument sake we got.


5 million rock up requesting asylum, no hang on what if we got 50 millions, say the entire population of Syria rocked up?? then all of the Egyptians??

call it an even 100 million requesting asylum??



what do we do then?

woof woof wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:15am:

What if the unthinkable and probably unlikely occurred and for argument sake we got. 5 million rock up requesting asylum, no hang on what if we got 50 millions, say the entire population of Syria rocked up?? then all of the Egyptians?? call it an even 100 million requesting asylum?? what do we do then?

What we do now is not live our lives according to unlikely hypothetical situations.

There's no guarantee that there will even be a tomorrow.

Don't stress over something that:

a) may never happen

b) you have no control over

____ wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:35pm:

Would the olds also persecute them like they want to with others fleeing for their lives. http://youtu.be/TTEMHQG0exw

Absolutely Green.
Arriving in any country via a smugglers boat is illegal remember.

____ wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:47pm:

The question is, should we punish Syrians that get here by boat, desiring protection from persecution. Yes or No?

The question is WTF would someone living in the heart of the muslim world want to come here anyfknway?

"In a mass exodus, around 30,000 Syrians have fled their homeland’s bloody civil war over the past five days"

Pick up a weapon and have a go. ::)

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 12:29pm:

Arriving in any country via a smugglers boat is illegal remember.

No, it's not.

True Colours wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 10:35pm:

Yeah - before the British invaded and carved the place up and caused chaos.

Quote:

in·va·sion  /inˈvāZHən/ Noun     An instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.     An incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity. https://www.google.com.au/#fp=a98d9c9dfb912f7f&q=invasion+definition

Please inform us of the invasion you talk of.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 10:22am:

What we do now is not live our lives according to unlikely hypothetical situations.

Yet we take people in based on hypotheticals. They claim oppression without any concrete proof. For instance, we had two Sri Lankan poofs claiming refugee status based on the fact they would face persecution by people in their village. What people? What are their names? What type of persecution? What efforts were made to avoid those who would persecute? Was the whole village engaged in persecution? ET phuking C. A claim for refugee status based on hypothetical assertions. No actual phuking proof. Unlikely hypothetical situations.

salad in wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 1:21pm:

True Colours wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 10:35pm: Yeah - before the British invaded and carved the place up and caused chaos. Quote: in·va·sion  /inˈvāZHən/ Noun     An instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.     An incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity. https://www.google.com.au/#fp=a98d9c9dfb912f7f&q=invasion+definition Please inform us of the invasion you talk of.

We could talk about the British invasion of UAE 1819-1971 (left a pliant dictatorship in place)

Kuwait 1899-1961 (left a pliant dictatorship in place)

Military operations in Saudi various between 1819 & 1918 (left a pliant dictatorship in place)

Bahrain 1860-1971 (left a pliant dictatorship in place)
Iraq 1915-58 & 2003-9

Jordan 1915-46 (left a pliant dictatorship in place)

Palestine 1915-48 (the British allowed Jews to invade, and left Jews in charge of most of the country)

Somalia 1888-1960 - (left a communist in charge of the army who became a dictator in 1969)

Egypt 1882-1954 & 1956-7 (the British left military dictator Gamal Nasser in charge)

Sudan 1882-1956 (British left military commanders in charge who would overthrow democratic government in 1969

Syria 1915-1920 (then they gave it to the French who put the Alawite cult in charge of the country)

Lebanon 1915-1920 (then they left it to the French who incited sectarianism, and installed a government that was based on sectarianism)

True Colours wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 5:48pm:

salad in wrote on Aug 23rd, 2013 at 1:21pm: True Colours wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 10:35pm: Yeah - before the British invaded and carved the place up and caused chaos. Quote: in·va·sion  /inˈvāZHən/ Noun     An instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.     An incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity. https://www.google.com.au/#fp=a98d9c9dfb912f7f&q=invasion+definition Please inform us of the invasion you talk of. We could talk about the British invasion of UAE 1819-1971 Kuwait 1899-1961 Military operations in Saudi various between 1819 & 1918 Bahrain 1860-1971 Iraq 1915-58 & 2003-9 Jordan 1915-46 Palestine 1915-48 Somalia 1888-1960 Egypt 1882-1952 & 1956-7 Sudan 1882-1956 Syria 1915-1920 Lebanon 1915-120

goodness me... INVASIONs you say??? how come you left out GERMANY 1939. -1945




now that was an invasion to behold.


looking at that list it doesnt look like they have done much good for themselves after all said and done does it???

looks like most if they are not in a civil war they are at war with eac h other... I personally have no recall of any of those invasions as B ritain wasnt anywhere near ready for a war with Germany...I am surprised they should have been armed to the teeth with that record.

I mean "invasions" its more than WAR isnt it?

True Colours wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2013 at 5:48pm:

We could talk about the British invasion of UAE 1819-1971 (left a pliant dictatorship in place) Kuwait 1899-1961 (left a pliant dictatorship in place) Military operations in Saudi various between 1819 & 1918 (left a pliant dictatorship in place) Bahrain 1860-1971 (left a pliant dictatorship in place) Iraq 1915-58 & 2003-9 Jordan 1915-46 (left a pliant dictatorship in place) Palestine 1915-48 (the British allowed Jews to invade, and left Jews in charge of most of the country) Somalia 1888-1960 - (left a communist in charge of the army who became a dictator in 1969) Egypt 1882-1954 & 1956-7 (the British left military dictator Gamal Nasser in charge) Sudan 1882-1956 (British left military commanders in charge who would overthrow democratic government in 1969 Syria 1915-1920 (then they gave it to the French who put the Alawite cult in charge of the country) Lebanon 1915-1920 (then they left it to the French who incited sectarianism, and installed a government that was based on sectarianism)

Sure. If we're going to hop in the time machine we could visit the time when aborigines left Africa to occupy what is now Australia. Was it a peaceful migration? Were any inhabitants killed? Michael Mansell holds the view that the inhabitants of Australia were driven south into Tasmania by the invading aborigines from Africa. Hardly a good position for aborigines to accuse others of invading.


Quote:

DNA confirms Aboriginal Australian origins Aboriginal Australians descend from the same lineage as the first modern humans to migrate from Africa, DNA analysis has confirmed. SYDNEY: Australian Aborigines descend from the same lineage as the first modern humans to migrate from Africa, DNA analysis has confirmed. The find is a further blow to the idea that the evolution of indigenous Australians was marked by many migrations from Asia. “We wanted to know whether the same ‘Out-of-Africa’ migration that was responsible for founding the gene pools of Eurasia was also the basis for Australia’s population… or were there several separate migrations?” said study co-author and evolutionary biologist Toomas Kivisild, of the University of Cambridge in England. The Out-of-Africa theory argues that modern humans evolved in Africa 100,000 to 200,000 years ago and one group migrated out to the rest of the world between 50,000 and 70,000 years ago, replacing – and not mixing with – ancient homo populations already there. [...] http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/dna-confirms-aboriginal-australian-origins/

Was it a peaceful migration or was it an invasion?

____ wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2013 at 5:35pm:

Would the olds also persecute them like they want to with others fleeing for their lives.

What about adultery as a means of gaining refugee status and protection? How many of those fleeing Syria are adulterers?


Quote:

We now give asylum to adulterers      AN adulterous Iraqi taxi driver has been awarded an Australian refugee visa after he convinced the Refugee Review Tribunal he would be hunted down by an infuriated husband who caught him in an tryst with his wife.     The Shia refugee, who arrived by boat from Indonesia in December 2011, claimed the husband, an Iraqi soldier, chased him through city streets after uncovering the affair, repeatedly firing a handgun at him. It is too inconvenient for the adulterer to move elsewhere in Iraq to hide from the angry husband, but it is not too inconvenient to force Australians to subsidise his relocation to Australia:     Refugee Review Tribunal member Rosemary Mathlin found in December that although he did not fear harm for a convention reason - such as race or political opinion - she awarded “complementary protection” because it was “highly probable that if the applicant returns to Iraq he will be killed by the husband of his former lover”.     Ms Mathlin said it would be unreasonable to expect the man, from Thi Qar province in Iraq’s south, to resettle elsewhere in Iraq, such as a Shia neighbourhood in Baghdad, even if the husband did not find him.     “Without (tribal and family connections) he would face discrimination in relation to housing, employment and basic services, and . . . he may even face physical danger.” http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/we_now_give_asylum_to_adulters/

Let's turn it into a comedy segment. Why not....after all the grounds for gaining refugee status have been turned into a burlesque. In Australia the best a person can hope for if he has problems with an angry husband is a phuking AVO. If you're from overseas and you have the same problem you get citizenship and welfare. You wonder why Australians are p!ssed off with this lunacy. Wonder no more.