$180 for putting my foot on a seat on a train?????

From some fking wannabe cop called "Civic Compliance Officers"?

"Do you have anything to say for the record sir?"

"Yes. You're exactly the reason why this country is in the state it is. You're an absolute joke"

Fking good luck chasing me in Europe for this fine.

Fking police state joke of a country.

Foot on a seat???????!

!!!!!!!!

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

$180 for putting my foot on a seat on a train????? From some fking wannabe cop called "Civic Compliance Officers"? "Do you have anything to say for the record sir?" "Yes. You're exactly the reason why this country is in the state it is. You're an absolute joke" Fking good luck chasing me in Europe for this fine. Fking police state joke of a country. Foot on a seat???????! !!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

$180 for putting my foot on a seat on a train????? From some fking wannabe cop called "Civic Compliance Officers"? "Do you have anything to say for the record sir?" "Yes. You're exactly the reason why this country is in the state it is. You're an absolute joke" Fking good luck chasing me in Europe for this fine. Fking police state joke of a country. Foot on a seat???????! !!!!!!!!

Chocolate policemen.......basically railway/council employees, acting like idiots. I think we used to call them "jobs-worth" clowns. The British Transport Police, REAL police wouldn't do that sh1t, and they are the most widely spread police force in the UK with identical training, powers etc as the other constabularies, in fact it used to be very much harder to join the TP.

Are you the same people who bitch about the cleanliness & comfort of these amenities?

Your feet belong on the floor NOT where someone will/could be sitting.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:27pm:

Your feet belong on the floor NOT where someone will/could be sitting.

Anybody with a decent upbringing understands that basic social norm.

No surprises in the OP.

I use taxi services for my travel, only a pov would travel by train  ::)

Vic wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:34pm:

I use taxi services for my travel, only a pov would travel by train  ::)

;D

the railway cops in sydney used to have guns - hopefully they dont anymore. Andrei obviously has an attitude problem.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

the last two responses where a bit abusive.

lack of respect for the topic starter.

Bastards. Next they will expect you to buy a ticket. They think people are just made of money.

He asked to see my ticket.

I was half tempted to ask to see his visa.

Joke of a country this is. You would not get this in London.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

$180 for putting my foot on a seat on a train????? From some fking wannabe cop called "Civic Compliance Officers"? "Do you have anything to say for the record sir?" "Yes. You're exactly the reason why this country is in the state it is. You're an absolute joke" Fking good luck chasing me in Europe for this fine. Fking police state joke of a country. Foot on a seat???????! !!!!!!!!

Sorry to hear that Andrei but what if you had a piece of dog turd
on your shoes that you didn't know about & that got on the seat?

You have to think about the reasons why there are those laws.

I don't have an attitude issue.

I have an issue with someone like him dictating to me about giving me an infringement of fking $180 for a non issue.

Jobsworth pr1ck.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:42pm:

You would not get this in London.

No.  You get dirty seats and inconsiderate passengers who think it's OK to take up two seats.

like Herbert said on another post pacific islander as security guards

just plain thugs, and not even Australian thugs.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:30pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:27pm: Your feet belong on the floor NOT where someone will/could be sitting. Anybody with a decent upbringing understands that basic social norm. No surprises in the OP.

Yes, exactly my thoughts.
We can always hope Andrei doesn't pay the fine and they deport him when he tries to Re enter the country.
Tis funny he slums it on Public transport, I wouldn't be seen dead on a train.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:42pm:

He asked to see my ticket. I was half tempted to ask to see his visa. Joke of a country this is. You would not get this in London.

That's because it is not possible to put your feet on the seats in a tube train without either being a giant or a midget contortionist.

http://uhakplus1.cafe24.com/xe/files/attach/images/916/750/003/0029ff4e76e180cbac84bcebb56b27ca.jpg

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:47pm:

like Herbert said on another post pacific islander as security guards just plain thugs, and not even Australian thugs.

I don't see them putting their feet on the seats.

What sort of person does that anyway?  Seriously?  Kids, maybe but not an adult.

I might go around to his house and put my feet up on his Ikea lounge suite.  See how he likes that.

Maybe if you fix your crap road system I wouldn't need to.
I'm not paying for a hire car for a month out of my own money.

Police state of a country. I have no intention of paying it .

skippy. wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:47pm:

Tis funny he slums it on Public transport ...

Isn't it just?

Cracks are appearing.

Please bring back the ticket seller people, and get rid off the useless ticket machines.      :( 

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:47pm: like Herbert said on another post pacific islander as security guards just plain thugs, and not even Australian thugs. I don't see them putting their feet on the seats. What sort of person does that anyway?  Seriously?  Kids, maybe but not an adult. I might go around to his house and put my feet up on his Ikea lounge suite.  See how he likes that.

How insulting, imagine suggesting  Andrea owns Ikea furniture.

As a citizen skippy I cannot ever be deported from either Great Britain or Australia.

Nonetheless let them chase me in London for this joke of a fine.

Fking scandalous it is.

skippy. wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:49pm: warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:47pm: like Herbert said on another post pacific islander as security guards just plain thugs, and not even Australian thugs. I don't see them putting their feet on the seats. What sort of person does that anyway?  Seriously?  Kids, maybe but not an adult. I might go around to his house and put my feet up on his Ikea lounge suite.  See how he likes that. How insulting, imagine suggesting  Andrea owns Ikea furniture.

You think he rents it?


;D

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:51pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:47pm: Tis funny he slums it on Public transport ... Isn't it just? Cracks are appearing.

No cracks.
I refuse to spend my own money on a hire car in the centre of Melbourne.

Doesn't address your joke laws though does it??

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:52pm:

As a citizen skippy I cannot ever be deported from either Great Britain or Australia. Nonetheless let them chase me in London for this joke of a fine. Fking scandalous it is.

You ignored me.

What if there would have been a dog turd on your shoe?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:55pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:52pm: As a citizen skippy I cannot ever be deported from either Great Britain or Australia. Nonetheless let them chase me in London for this joke of a fine. Fking scandalous it is. You ignored me. What if there would have been a dog turd on your shoe?

There isn't.
There were also plenty of seats free.

He was just being a tool.
And he wasn't a locally born person by appearance.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:55pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:52pm: As a citizen skippy I cannot ever be deported from either Great Britain or Australia. Nonetheless let them chase me in London for this joke of a fine. Fking scandalous it is. You ignored me. What if there would have been a dog turd on your shoe? There isn't. There were also plenty of seats free. He was just being a tool. And he wasn't a locally born person by appearance.

Andrei,
How did you know?
You can't see under your shoes unless you inspect them.

You're a bogan & you should have been arrested.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:55pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:52pm: As a citizen skippy I cannot ever be deported from either Great Britain or Australia. Nonetheless let them chase me in London for this joke of a fine. Fking scandalous it is. You ignored me. What if there would have been a dog turd on your shoe? There isn't. There were also plenty of seats free. He was just being a tool. And he wasn't a locally born person by appearance.

So he wasn't black in a loin cloth then?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:51pm: skippy. wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:47pm: Tis funny he slums it on Public transport ... Isn't it just? Cracks are appearing. No cracks. I refuse to spend my own money on a hire car in the centre of Melbourne. Doesn't address your joke laws though does it??

I think it's a great law.

What sort of adult puts their feet up on the seats on public transport anyway?

Seriously?

I can't even remember doing that as a rebellious kid. 

I wouldn't dream of doing it as an adult.

Are you in the habit of putting your feet up on seats that don't belong to you?

All this public transport stuff is a furphy.

I'm working in the city center until mid sept. I am not driving in central Melbourne!
This was between southern cross and parliament.

The question is why have I been fined an extortionate amount for a total non issue by some *****.

I am absolutely disgusted.

This is a joke of a country and you're fking welcome to it.
I can't wait to leave.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:00pm:

All this public transport stuff is a furphy. I'm working in the city center until mid sept. I am not driving in central Melbourne! This was between southern cross and parliament. The question is why have I been fined an extortionate amount for a total non issue by some *****. I am absolutely disgusted. This is a joke of a country and you're fking welcome to it. I can't wait to leave.

You're also a person who has showed no remorse for risking
placing dog turds on a communal seat.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:00pm:

The question is why have I been fined an extortionate amount for a total non issue by some *****.

No, the question is what sort of adult puts their feet up on the seat when they ride on public transport?

Were you brought up by apes?

He probably fined you for wearing Florsheim or some other production line footwear.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 2:00pm: The question is why have I been fined an extortionate amount for a total non issue by some *****. No, the question is what sort of adult puts their feet up on the seat when they ride on public transport? Were you brought up by apes?

Are there still apes in the South African jungle?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:00pm:

This is a joke of a country and you're fking welcome to it. I can't wait to leave.

http://www.canalgif.net/Gifs-animados/Expresiones/Bye-Bye/Imagen-animada-Bye-Bye-03.gif

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:47pm: like Herbert said on another post pacific islander as security guards just plain thugs, and not even Australian thugs. I don't see them putting their feet on the seats. What sort of person does that anyway?  Seriously?  Kids, maybe but not an adult. I might go around to his house and put my feet up on his Ikea lounge suite.  See how he likes that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJkhSUSnek

And what human right of yours does this infringe on?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:00pm:

All this public transport stuff is a furphy. I'm working in the city center until mid sept. I am not driving in central Melbourne! This was between southern cross and parliament. The question is why have I been fined an extortionate amount for a total non issue by some *****. I am absolutely disgusted. This is a joke of a country and you're fking welcome to it. I can't wait to leave.

That's three stops.  U were so tired u needed to lift your legs for 3 stops?  Lazy.

And did you ensure all senior ladies were seated first before taking up 2 seats?

This is Andrei:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Zre1djE

LOL

Hicks globe trotting businessman persona has to be the greatest load of dog turds I’ve read.


;)

;D ;D ;D

Gotta be worth a 'hang 'em high,' Mr Bat1?

I think we all missed the point quan.

if it had of been a DECENT Australian security guard, they would have just asked , told adrei to get his feet of the seat and no fined him, that's the stupidty here, and its got nothing too do with adrei's  high flying attitude.

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:

I think we all missed the point quan. if it had of been a DECENT Australian security guard, they would have just asked , told adrei to get his feet of the seat and no fined him, that's the stupidty here, and its got nothing too do with adrei's  high flying attitude.

No.

The point is Andrei thinks it's acceptable behaviour, for an adult, to put his feet up on the seat on public transport.

Normal adults don't do that sort of thing.

Business men wouldn't dream of doing it.

Bogans on the way to Frankston: they do that sort of thing.

Cracks are appearing in Adrei's "high flying" story.

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:

I think we all missed the point quan. if it had of been a DECENT Australian security guard, they would have just asked , told adrei to get his feet of the seat and no fined him, that's the stupidty here, and its got nothing too do with adrei's  high flying attitude.

I bet it's got everything to do with his attitude. 

All he had to do was take his feet off, offer a hollow apology and then wait till the guard moves on before putting your feet back up.

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:

I think we all missed the point quan. if it had of been a DECENT Australian security guard, they would have just asked , told adrei to get his feet of the seat and no fined him, that's the stupidty here, and its got nothing too do with adrei's  high flying attitude.

Well we dont know what andrei did/said when they asked him to take his feet down.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:

I think we all missed the point quan. if it had of been a DECENT Australian security guard, they would have just asked , told adrei to get his feet of the seat and no fined him, that's the stupidty here, and its got nothing too do with adrei's  high flying attitude.

Are you sure about that?

Know for sure or just a racist gut feeling?

State Gov's (especially VIC & QLD) have been crying poor since year dot, guards probably have quota's.

Besides he probably asked Mr hicks to remove his feet & was given attitude.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:37pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 2:29pm: I think we all missed the point quan. if it had of been a DECENT Australian security guard, they would have just asked , told adrei to get his feet of the seat and no fined him, that's the stupidty here, and its got nothing too do with adrei's  high flying attitude. Well we dont know what andrei did/said when they asked him to take his feet down. SOB http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

I think that's the point boag he wasn't asked just fined by a ignorant with no respect for people.


I think if he was asked he would have complied.

a simple easy solution to the problem.

Yes, imagine a colored/ black/ Asian asking Hicks to remove his feet from the seat... Now given what you know of Hicks... Imagine his response?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:38pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 2:29pm: I think we all missed the point quan. if it had of been a DECENT Australian security guard, they would have just asked , told adrei to get his feet of the seat and no fined him, that's the stupidty here, and its got nothing too do with adrei's  high flying attitude. Are you sure about that? Know for sure or just a racist gut feeling? State Gov's (especially VIC & QLD) have been crying poor since year dot, guards probably have quota's. Besides he probably asked Mr hicks to remove his feet & was given attitude.

well all I know is the guards up here in queensland don't give a sh.t.

they just put their time in.

wash your mouth out a racist gut feeling I don't think so.

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

I think that's the point boag he wasn't asked just fined by a ignorant with no respect for people.

Hicks is an "ignorant", with no respect for public property or social norms.

Four from the Left. Excuses: Zero

http://fruitloopmum.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/img_0897.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:45pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 2:43pm: I think that's the point boag he wasn't asked just fined by a ignorant with no respect for people. Hicks is an "ignorant", with no respect for public property or social norms.

wrong greg just a Australian that should be treated with respect. it means a lot.

and maybe just asked to remove his feet like any other Australian person would.

stupidity
just because vic might have a quota doesn't mean they have fine people.

this isn't about excuses quantum.

all that wasted forum space just for one huge photo

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:53pm:

this isn't about excuses quantum.

It is for Hicks ;)

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 2:45pm: warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 2:43pm: I think that's the point boag he wasn't asked just fined by a ignorant with no respect for people. Hicks is an "ignorant", with no respect for public property or social norms. wrong greg just a Australian that should be treated with respect. it means a lot. and maybe just asked to remove his feet like any other Australian person would. stupidity just because vic might have a quota doesn't mean they have fine people.

Wrong.  Public property needs to be treated with respect.

If an adult needs to be told that they should not have their feet up on the seat on public transport, there's something seriously wrong with that individual.

or it's just someone else's perceived attitude too them.

what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet.

that's the difference between a decent Australian and a ignorant Australian guard.

why can't this countrys people show respect to other people?

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

or it just someone else's perceived attitude too them. what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet.

Fined him; the maximum penalty.  No questions asked.

An adult who thinks it's OK to put their feet up on the seat on public transport needs to learn some hard lessons, fast.

I still can't believe that he put his feet on the seat in the first place.

Makes me wonder about his upbringing.

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

why can't this countrys people show respect to other people?

Why can't adults show respect for public property and basic social norms.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:04pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 2:59pm: or it just someone else's perceived attitude too them. what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet. Fined him; the maximum penalty.  No questions asked. An adult who thinks it's OK to put their feet up on the seat on public transport needs to learn some hard lessons, fast. I still can't believe that he put his feet on the seat in the first place. Makes me wonder about his upbringing.

you then greg are the definition of a ignorant Australian that shows no respect to anyone.

a decent Australian would tell him the error of his ways and move on.

complete stupidity.

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

why can't this countrys people show respect to other people?

Not putting your feet on the seat is showing respect for other people.

Whose money pays to fix and replace worn out and broken public property? The people.
Who has to sit on the seat that has had someone's feet on it? Other people.
What are guards, police, inspectors, security, etc?  People!

Why should the person doing the wrong thing be shown respect (which by respect you actually mean allowing them to do anything they want), whilst they are the ones not showing any respect by doing the wrong thing in the first place.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:08pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:03pm: why can't this countrys people show respect to other people? Why can't adults show respect for public property and basic social norms.

they can all you have to do is show some respect to them.

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet.

I would have fined him, then asked him to remove his feet.
Then fined him again
And then pinged him for swearing ;)

Quantum wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:03pm: why can't this countrys people show respect to other people? Not putting your feet on the seat is showing respect for other people. Whose money pays to fix and replace worn out and broken public property? The people. Who has to sit on the seat that has had someone's feet on it? Other people. What are guards, police, inspectors, security, etc?  People! Why should the person doing the wrong thing be shown respect (which by respect you actually mean allowing them to do anything they want), whilst they are the ones not showing any respect by doing the wrong thing in the first place.

so why is it so hard for a decent person to ask someone to heed to the error of their ways.


fineing them just makes you a prick,  and not a decent person.


talking is the way, not punishment. doesn't solve anything.

learn some respect for people.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:15pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 2:59pm: what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet. I would have fined him, then asked him to remove his feet. Then fined him again And then pinged him for swearing ;)

well that's a uncaring attitude isn't it doesn't solve the problem or help anyone out does it.

fine them rather then talk to them.

arrest someone rather then talk to them.

taiser or shoot them rather that talk to them.


doesn't create a friendly attitude does it.

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:08pm: warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:03pm: why can't this countrys people show respect to other people? Why can't adults show respect for public property and basic social norms. they can all you have to do is show some respect to them.

No.

They have to earn that respect, by not putting their feet up on the seat on public transport.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Do you put your feet up on seats too?

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

Quantum wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:10pm: warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:03pm: why can't this countrys people show respect to other people? Not putting your feet on the seat is showing respect for other people. Whose money pays to fix and replace worn out and broken public property? The people. Who has to sit on the seat that has had someone's feet on it? Other people. What are guards, police, inspectors, security, etc?  People! Why should the person doing the wrong thing be shown respect (which by respect you actually mean allowing them to do anything they want), whilst they are the ones not showing any respect by doing the wrong thing in the first place. so why is it so hard for a decent person to ask someone to heed to the error of their ways. fineing them just makes you a prick,  and not a decent person. talking is the way, not punishment. doesn't solve anything. learn some respect for people.

He has already been told not to put his feet on the seat. Remember the picture of the sign on the last page? So since he knew not to do it but he did it anyway, why should he be told again?

That's why there is a fine. It is for those people who show no respect for the rules.   

I would have:

1/ Asked the offender to remove his feet from the seat. Compliance = no further action.

2/ Non-compliance and/or an attitude, I would fine.

3/ If attitude/non-compliance continued, the offender would be removed from the train at the next stop.

I only once had to put a bloke (two, actually) off a train, but they were harassing/threatening other passengers, not
just breaching by-laws.

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:04pm: warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 2:59pm: or it just someone else's perceived attitude too them. what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet. Fined him; the maximum penalty.  No questions asked. An adult who thinks it's OK to put their feet up on the seat on public transport needs to learn some hard lessons, fast. I still can't believe that he put his feet on the seat in the first place. Makes me wonder about his upbringing. you then greg are the definition of a ignorant Australian that shows no respect to anyone. a decent Australian would tell him the error of his ways and move on. complete stupidity.

A decent adult would understand that it's not acceptable to put one's feet up on the seat when riding on public transport.

A decent adult would not need to have this explained to them.

As I said, no surprises in the OP then.


(By the way, I don't think you actually know what "ignorant" means.)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

$180 for putting my foot on a seat on a train????? From some fking wannabe cop called "Civic Compliance Officers"? "Do you have anything to say for the record sir?" "Yes. You're exactly the reason why this country is in the state it is. You're an absolute joke" Fking good luck chasing me in Europe for this fine. Fking police state joke of a country. Foot on a seat???????! !!!!!!!!

There are signs throughout the trains stating this is an offence. It is also simple courtesy. I sure don't want to sit on a seat that has muddy shoe prints on it. Too bad!

All Andrei had to do was say: "Sorry, I wasn't thinking," and take his feet down.

But, typically, he got smart mouthed and lippy and was fined.

Now he is going to skip the country without paying. That sums him up nicely.

He can't wait to go and we can't wait to get rid of him.

warrigal wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

so why is it so hard for a decent person to ask someone to heed to the error of their ways.

A young child?  Sure.  They probably don't know any better yet.

Hicks is an adult, and he tells us that he's a globe-trotting businessman (which I don't believe at all now, anyway).

If he doesn't know the "error of his ways" by now, he needs to learn a hard lesson.  I would have fined him, and then thrown him off the train.

What sort of adult puts their feet up on the seat?  Seriously? 

Naaaa, gotta agree with Wazza here (and we don’t know the full/true story). :)

Nothing wrong with saying “look mate can you take your feet of the seat please” ;)

If they don’t comply then fines can come into it.

FriYAY wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:38pm:

Naaaa, gotta agree with Wazza here (and we don’t know the full/true story). :) Nothing wrong with saying “look mate can you take your feet of the seat please” ;) If they don’t comply then fines can come into it.

Seriously he hasnt said if he was asked and complied or didnt comply first. he wont admit he thought he was too good to do what he was asked.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

$180 for putting my foot on a seat on a train????? From some fking wannabe cop called "Civic Compliance Officers"? "Do you have anything to say for the record sir?" "Yes. You're exactly the reason why this country is in the state it is. You're an absolute joke" Fking good luck chasing me in Europe for this fine. Fking police state joke of a country. Foot on a seat???????! !!!!!!!!

I think the term 'police state' has a more substantial definition than that. Speeding a few kms above an arbitrarily imposed limit in inherently safe conditions is far more onerous and still nowhere near the meaning of the term.

It seems like an over-reaction on both sides.

You don't want a big fine then keep your freaking feet on the floor. The seat is for backsides not your filthy shoes, so that can be transferred to the next poor slob to sit where your  chewing gum ridden feet have been planted.

Don't want the fine, don't do the crime.

red baron wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

You don't want a big fine then keep your freaking feet on the floor. The seat is for backsides not your filthy shoes, so that can be transferred to the next poor slob to sit where your  chewing gum ridden feet have been planted. Don't want the fine, don't do the crime.

Yes Andrei,
get you feet off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Zre1djE

Lucky you only got a fine Andrei and not a lesson from another passenger like me who takes great offense to people doing this and showing total disrespect for other passengers. 

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:44pm:

I don't have an attitude issue. .

http://www.madridlab.net/melonas/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/old-man-laughing.jpg

Unfortunately governments of late have decided to try and turn their police forces into a profit making enterprise, the unemployed shop lifter has been given carte blanche as arresting them will result in a net profit loss but the employed business man putting his feet on the seats is regarded as a profitable sale lifting the bottom line, he's just going to cough up, he isn't going to do community service thereby quadrupling his cost to the .Gov , same as road users, they may as well be milking cows, while they are driving home from work at 3 K's over the limit they are snapped and charged accordingly, meanwhile some drug addict front bottom is stealing their TV but theres no money in chasing that crime.

John Smith wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:44pm: I don't have an attitude issue. . http://www.madridlab.net/melonas/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/old-man-laughing.jpg

correct john no attitude here. and no attitude with adrei

ian wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:16pm:

Lucky you only got a fine Andrei and not a lesson from another passenger like me who takes great offense to people doing this and showing total disrespect for other passengers.

And what has all this got to do with you IGNORANT

The facts are Adrei didn't put his feet on the seat, it was lie created by the ignorant security guard.
That's need to learn some respect for people in this country.

ian wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:16pm:

Lucky you only got a fine Andrei and not a lesson from another passenger like me who takes great offense to people doing this and showing total disrespect for other passengers.

But its  alright for you to show disrespect to other passengers by verbably or phyically abusing them, your no better than the ignorant security guard.

any normal person wouldn't have fined adrei , after all he didn't vandilise, or damage the train seat in any way. if he had it would be a different situation.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:26pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:12pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:08pm: warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:03pm: why can't this countrys people show respect to other people? Why can't adults show respect for public property and basic social norms. they can all you have to do is show some respect to them. No. They have to earn that respect, by not putting their feet up on the seat on public transport. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Do you put your feet up on seats too?

NO greg I don't put my feet on seats and you greg have no right to the assumption that some one does.

earn some respect, sorry its you than need to learn some respect for people out their, your not king muck,

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:29pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:09pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:04pm: warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 2:59pm: or it just someone else's perceived attitude too them. what would you have done greg fined him or did the decent thing and asked him to remove his feet. Fined him; the maximum penalty.  No questions asked. An adult who thinks it's OK to put their feet up on the seat on public transport needs to learn some hard lessons, fast. I still can't believe that he put his feet on the seat in the first place. Makes me wonder about his upbringing. you then greg are the definition of a ignorant Australian that shows no respect to anyone. a decent Australian would tell him the error of his ways and move on. complete stupidity. A decent adult would understand that it's not acceptable to put one's feet up on the seat when riding on public transport. A decent adult would not need to have this explained to them. As I said, no surprises in the OP then. (By the way, I don't think you actually know what "ignorant" means.)

well greg here is one definition of ignorant.

The ignorant security guard assumed that adrei put his feet on the seat, the ignorant security guard then assumed that adrei had vandalised or damage the train seat, therefore the ignorant security guard fined him.

if you assume you make a ass out of you and me

completely unesessary fine,

you can all go back and put you childish attitude photos up now.

when we all no that adrei not the one with the attitude problem.

Kat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:28pm:

I would have: 1/ Asked the offender to remove his feet from the seat. Compliance = no further action. 2/ Non-compliance and/or an attitude, I would fine. 3/ If attitude/non-compliance continued, the offender would be removed from the train at the next stop. I only once had to put a bloke (two, actually) off a train, but they were harassing/threatening other passengers, not just breaching by-laws.

well at least kat has the common sense approach,
are their any other decent people on this forum, that's right kat, boag and me,

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 3:33pm:

warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:17pm: so why is it so hard for a decent person to ask someone to heed to the error of their ways. A young child?  Sure.  They probably don't know any better yet. Hicks is an adult, and he tells us that he's a globe-trotting businessman (which I don't believe at all now, anyway). If he doesn't know the "error of his ways" by now, he needs to learn a hard lesson.  I would have fined him, and then thrown him off the train. What sort of adult puts their feet up on the seat?  Seriously?

thats the point greg maybe he didn't put his feet on the seat or vandalise the train seat in anyway, but we all assume he did.

what pompass fcks you all are.

warrigal wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 4:24am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:33pm: warrigal wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 3:17pm: so why is it so hard for a decent person to ask someone to heed to the error of their ways. A young child?  Sure.  They probably don't know any better yet. Hicks is an adult, and he tells us that he's a globe-trotting businessman (which I don't believe at all now, anyway). If he doesn't know the "error of his ways" by now, he needs to learn a hard lesson.  I would have fined him, and then thrown him off the train. What sort of adult puts their feet up on the seat?  Seriously?  thats the point greg maybe he didn't put his feet on the seat or vandalise the train seat in anyway, but we all assume he did. what pompass fcks you all are.

You are an idiot. He states he had his feet on the seat in the first sentence of this thread. Lay off the booze.

Where is andrei? He posted that and disapeared. Perhaps he is in jail for not returning his supermarket trolley.

SOB

http://spotofborg.com/files/persecution5.jpg

OMG!!!

What the hell were you doing on public transport?.....riding a train?.....with the lower class?....acting like a feral....I hope you didn't spit on the floor.

Unbelievable!!!!!

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 4:33pm: You don't want a big fine then keep your freaking feet on the floor. The seat is for backsides not your filthy shoes, so that can be transferred to the next poor slob to sit where your  chewing gum ridden feet have been planted. Don't want the fine, don't do the crime. Yes Andrei, get you feet off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Zre1djE

warrigal wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 4:09am:

you can all go back and put you childish attitude photos up now. when we all no that adrei not the one with the attitude problem.

noo, we all no no that aderi not with attitude problem.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:42pm:

He asked to see my ticket. Joke of a country this is. You would not get this in London.

£50 fines for putting your feet on train seats
11 October 2007


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Rail and Tube passengers who put feet on seats face £50 on-the-spot fines from British Transport Police.

Senior officers recognise that commuters often feel intimidated by low-level bad behaviour.

They believe it also leads to more serious disorder and to clashes when troublemakers are confronted.

Police are set to mount extra patrols as part of a major drive to reduce fear and cut crime on London's transport network.

The fines will vary according to the offence, rising to £80, and will double if not paid within 21 days.

Commuters today welcomed the crackdown and some called for it to be extended.

Dahlia Simms, 34, from Earl's Court, said: "The last thing you want is someone's dirty shoes on your seat but you can't say anything because you just don't know if you'll get stabbed

British Transport Police assistant chief constable Steve Thomas said: "People who put their feet on the seats are showing a lack of consideration for others.

Annalie York, 26, a business development manager, from Fulham, said: "I can't stand sitting down in your clean work clothes on a dirty seat where someone's shoes have been."

On Merseyside, local train operator Merseyrail has prosecuted 250 passengers for putting their feet on train seats

The plan also highlights the success of a similar "zero tolerance" in New York.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-487018/50-fines-putting-feet-train-seats.html#ixzz2dIqxf4As









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buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2012 at 10:08pm:

Ted's thin blue train line February 18, 2012 THE Baillieu Government is building a $460,000 train station with no line and no services to coach armed guards to deal with crime. The Government's promise to have 940 Protective Service Officers on stations by 2014 is looking shaky - police revealed there had been only 300 applications so far. The first PSOs graduated yesterday at the Police Academy. They include a globe-trotting baker, a farmer, a fruit and vegetable stacker, a former policeman, a tradie, a marketing consultant and a chemical engineer. The first intake of 18 PSOs will be deployed at Flinders St and Southern Cross, Richmond, North Melbourne and Footscray stations from Wednesday. The pretend train station will be built at the Police Academy grounds, where PSOs will be confronted with scenarios of violence. http://m.news.com.au/VIC/pg/0/fi967426.htm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 1:30pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:27pm: Your feet belong on the floor NOT where someone will/could be sitting. Anybody with a decent upbringing understands that basic social norm. No surprises in the OP.

HUH! coming from you!!!!!please!!!!!! ::) Your an idiot Pecker!

warrigal wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 4:06am:

...the ignorant security guard then assumed that adrei had vandalised or damage the train seat ...

Now you're just making things up.

You're not a very good troll, you know.

And, by the way, note my spelling: "you're".

Learn to spell, and learn to troll a little better.

There's a good lad.    ;)

De-registered User wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:30pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 1:27pm: Your feet belong on the floor NOT where someone will/could be sitting. Anybody with a decent upbringing understands that basic social norm. No surprises in the OP. HUH! coming from you!!!!!please!!!!!! ::) Your an idiot Pecker!

Says it all.

;D

you're

Happy now toss bag

Still, there is no excuse for your breathing!

Surely, you must be the most hated forum user.

De-registered User wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 9:24am:

Still, there is no excuse for your breathing!

Just because I believe adults should know better than putting their feet up on seats, you'd like to see me dead?

Charming.

You're starting to show your true colours now.

I shall be keeping a very close eye on you.