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AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue.

Good one, maggots!

Make their miserable existence even worse.

How unutterably petty and mean-minded.

But, Oh!, so typically conservative.

You are a GRUB, Abbott!!!

???

How does the maths work on that? There would have to be about 5 and 1/2 million people on the dole for a $210 cut per person to save 1.1 billion.

Kat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!!

Kat, I think you might seriously be in need of a Kat-nap.

Quantum wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 7:30pm:

??? How does the maths work on that? There would have to be about 5 and 1/2 million people on the dole for a $210 cut per person to save 1.1 billion.

I think it's called voodoo economics.

viewpoint wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 7:37pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:35pm: Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!! Kat, I think you might seriously be in need of a Kat-nap.

OK, you tell me what's right, fair or just about taking money from our worst-off to fund... guess??

Yep!

Businesses, via tax bribes.

The same businesses which will then, no doubt, cut jobs.

Quantum wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 7:30pm:

??? How does the maths work on that? There would have to be about 5 and 1/2 million people on the dole for a $210 cut per person to save 1.1 billion.

They just make up the numbers to get tot he desired total  .... they aren't getting treasury to check them and therefore they feel they have free reign to invent whatever bullsh1t they like

Quantum wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 7:30pm:

??? How does the maths work on that? There would have to be about 5 and 1/2 million people on the dole for a $210 cut per person to save 1.1 billion.

I'm sure the actual fornightly amount of social security money deposited in bank accounts is a fraction of the total costs of administration.

Kat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!!

DID YOU FORGET THE MINING TAX DIDNT PAY OFF AS MUCH AS SWAN PREDICTED..LOLOLOLOL

IT ALL BLEW UP IN THEIR FACES ONCE AGAIN... AND WE AINT GOT THE MONEY... THE BUDGET BLEW OUT BY OVER $30BILLION....


$30.BILLLLLLLION IN 3 MONTHS.....WORK IT OUT IT AINT THAT HARD.....



even for a lefty i wouldnt think???? :-?

Kat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!!

It is so simple for the recipients of the dole to benefit from this, tell them to get a smacking job!!!  It is that simple. Get the lazy bastards working and we will ALL pay less tax.

Kat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!!

I really doubt that "supplement" exists in the first place. . . .

SOB

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Adamant wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 11:43pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:35pm: Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!! It is so simple for the recipients of the dole to benefit from this, tell them to get a smacking job!!!  It is that simple. Get the lazy bastards working and we will ALL pay less tax.

150,000 jobs.

700,000 unemployed.

Yeah, bugger, they're all lazy bludgers.

And you're a smacking idiot if you believe it.

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 11:04pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:35pm: Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!! DID YOU FORGET THE MINING TAX DIDNT PAY OFF AS MUCH AS SWAN PREDICTED..LOLOLOLOL IT ALL BLEW UP IN THEIR FACES ONCE AGAIN... AND WE AINT GOT THE MONEY... THE BUDGET BLEW OUT BY OVER $30BILLION.... $30.BILLLLLLLION IN 3 MONTHS.....WORK IT OUT IT AINT THAT HARD..... even for a lefty i wouldnt think???? :-?

Yes.

We know.

Kat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!!

I would like to know what the supplementary grant was for in the first place. Surely it would be better to just put pensions or allowances up by $2 a week.
I do find it objectionable that a party would clamp down on some grants, yet intend to implement paid maternity leave that would give  up to $75,000 to some of our top income earners. If we need to start saving money, cutting down on middle class welfare would be a good start.

Kat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!!

the mining tax was another alp failure.
the supplement was money already spent but the income not accounted for.

So, the alp do not have the income, so the outgoing must stop.

Kat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!!

It is all well and good to get your panties in a bunch, but you do realise this little tax has collected nearly bugger all since it was conceived. So the dole recipients we never going to get any money from the mining tax, because that tax was a worthless dud.

Kat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!!

Instead you can go and earn $150Kpa as a miner instead of your $210 buck schooner and pool bonus

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 11:04pm:

DID YOU FORGET THE MINING TAX DIDNT PAY OFF AS MUCH AS SWAN PREDICTED..LOLOLOLOL IT ALL BLEW UP IN THEIR FACES ONCE AGAIN... AND WE AINT GOT THE MONEY... THE BUDGET BLEW OUT BY OVER $30BILLION.... $30.BILLLLLLLION IN 3 MONTHS.....WORK IT OUT IT AINT THAT HARD..... even for a lefty i wouldnt think???? :-?

No Cods - it didn't blow out by $30 B in 3 months but don't worry about getting the facts right.

How putrid and petty is this???

It is one of the great Liberal policies ???

How can you complain - it is straight out of standard Liberal dogma guide.

It is on page 1 of the Libs manual:

Never miss a chance to kick the unemployed ???

Never ever.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 11:04pm: DID YOU FORGET THE MINING TAX DIDNT PAY OFF AS MUCH AS SWAN PREDICTED..LOLOLOLOL IT ALL BLEW UP IN THEIR FACES ONCE AGAIN... AND WE AINT GOT THE MONEY... THE BUDGET BLEW OUT BY OVER $30BILLION.... $30.BILLLLLLLION IN 3 MONTHS.....WORK IT OUT IT AINT THAT HARD..... even for a lefty i wouldnt think???? :-? No Cods - it didn't blow out by $30 B in 3 months but don't worry about getting the facts right.

no your right it was adjusted to $30.1.bn.....


are you saying they got the budget right this time round?????I dont think so..... they were depending on money they havent even got.... and it was all wrong wrong wrong....

why do you think both sides are cutting cutting cutting...

or in kevthecons case upping ciggie tax as well...

isnt that a FACT????...... so what are your FACTS dna. do tell?


there was not a thing wrong with the budget......

to bad they spent money they dont have.. but we know thats a labor thing anyway.and you guys dont care about that

Dnarever wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 8:53am:

How putrid and petty is this??? It is one of the great Liberal policies ??? How can you complain - it is straight out of standard Liberal dogma guide. It is on page 1 of the Libs manual: Never miss a chance to kick the unemployed ??? Never ever.

yeah dead vicious righties are... why they even invite people into the country by boat so they can watch them drown and babies get smashed on rocks....or even blown up on shanty town boats... yeah go go go.. we are the worst... ::)

Dnarever wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 8:53am:

How putrid and petty is this??? It is one of the great Liberal policies ??? How can you complain - it is straight out of standard Liberal dogma guide. It is on page 1 of the Libs manual: Never miss a chance to kick the unemployed ??? Never ever.

I would have thought that not spending billions of doallars you don't have would be a good policy for all parties; well except the greens who have a magic money tree that allows them to spend trillions of dollars on welfare and never having to worry where it is comng from But for us mere mortals, a balanced budget is a good thing.

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 9:11am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 8:53am: How putrid and petty is this??? It is one of the great Liberal policies ??? How can you complain - it is straight out of standard Liberal dogma guide. It is on page 1 of the Libs manual: Never miss a chance to kick the unemployed ??? Never ever. I would have thought that not spending billions of doallars you don't have would be a good policy for all parties; well except the greens who have a magic money tree that allows them to spend trillions of dollars on welfare and never having to worry where it is comng from But for us mere mortals, a balanced budget is a good thing.

I would have thought that not spending billions of doallars

Abbott isn't saving anything he is just re targeting who it goes too.

Taking $100 off the unemployed while a the same time he is paying $75,000 for high income mothers to not work for 6 months ????

I think I see a population explosion on the way ????

Wonder what losing most of the high income woman next year will do to the economy ???

Dnarever wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 9:20am:

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 9:11am: Dnarever wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 8:53am: How putrid and petty is this??? It is one of the great Liberal policies ??? How can you complain - it is straight out of standard Liberal dogma guide. It is on page 1 of the Libs manual: Never miss a chance to kick the unemployed ??? Never ever. I would have thought that not spending billions of doallars you don't have would be a good policy for all parties; well except the greens who have a magic money tree that allows them to spend trillions of dollars on welfare and never having to worry where it is comng from But for us mere mortals, a balanced budget is a good thing. I would have thought that not spending billions of doallars Abbott isn't saving anything he is just re targeting who it goes too. Taking $100 off the unemployed while a the same time he is paying $75,000 for high income mothers to not work for 6 months ???? I think I see a population explosion on the way ???? Wonder what losing most of the high income woman next year will do to the economy ???

This is a seperate conversation to your initial post.


If there is no extra money coming from the mining tax for the dole recipients, then he is saving money.

Your new point has  nothing at all to do with this because the money is not coming form the MRRT, which is a dud tax, earning bugger all.


Personally we need to breed less ferals and more middle income families, so anything that makes that happen is a good thing. Ferals tend to breed more ferals and I think Australia has more than enough of them at the moment, as the baby bonus saw them bugger like rabbits for a couple of plasma tvs an a new fridge.

Kat wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 6:15am:

150,000 jobs.700,000 unemployed.Yeah, bugger, they're all lazy bludgers.And you're a smacking idiot if you believe it.

I personally know 5 people who are dole bludgers who do not want a job. I pay the equivalent of one married couples aged pension a year in income tax. I believe the 5 who do not want to work are stealing money from aged pensioners and I am disgusted by there greed!

Why are there 150,000 jobs vacant if everybody wants to work?

Quantum wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 7:30pm:

??? How does the maths work on that? There would have to be about 5 and 1/2 million people on the dole for a $210 cut per person to save 1.1 billion.

It's Joe's ACCOUNTING, I guess ?



The Coalition has unveiled more than $31 billion in savings over four years to offset the cost of its huge tax cut and spending promises. National Economics Editor Jessica Irvine looks at the major cuts. 
 

SCRAP BUSINESS COMPENSATION FOR CARBON TAX (save $7.5 billion)

Because a Coalition government would scrap the carbon tax (missing out on $9.6 billion in revenue), there would be no need to compensate for its ill effects. Households will get to keep their tax cuts and pension increases. But a Coalition government would scrap all compensation for business and other spending programs associated with the tax, saving $7.5 billion.


AXE SUPERANNUATION BENEFITS FUNDED FROM MINING TAX (save $5.3 billion)

Back in the good old days of the mining boom, Labor thought it was going to reap tens of billions of dollars from its mining tax. So it decided to put some if it into superannuation accounts. With the mining tax now raising much less than expected, Joe Hockey would also scrap $3.7 billion worth of top ups for the super accounts of low income earners, worth about $500 a year for workers on less than $35,000. He would also delay a ramp up in the Superannuation Guarantee for all workers which would have cost the budget $1.6 billion (because super is taxed at a lower rate).


AXE 12,000 PUBLIC SERVANT JOBS (save $5.2 billion)

Canberra property prices are poised to plunge if a Coalition government is elected. It would scrap 12,000 public servant jobs - not by firing people, but by not replacing them when they retire or leave their jobs. This represents a near 10 per cent haircut to the federal government bureaucracy which currently employs about 170,000 people.


SCRAP BUSINESS TAX BREAKS (save $4.7 billion)

In addition to super benefits, the Coalition would also axe business tax breaks that were to be funded by mining tax revenue. Business will miss out on an instant asset write-off provision, a phasedown of interest withholding tax, a tax loss carry back scheme and accelerated depreciation for motor vehicles.

ABOLISH SCHOOLKIDS BONUS (save $4.6 billion)

A million low income families will miss out on seeing Labor's schoolkids bonus twice every year in January and June. The cash bonus was worth $820 a year for every high school child and $410 for every primary school child and was unveiled in last year's budget. The Coalition says this is no longer affordable given the budget deterioration.


REDUCE HUMANITARIAN REFUGEE INTAKE (save $1.3 billion)

The Gillard government increased Australia's annual intake of humanitarian refugees from 13,750 places to 20,000. Tony Abbott initially said he supported the increase. But in its search for savings, the Coalition has pledged to reduce it back to 13,750 places a year, booking a saving of $1.3 billion across the four year budget horizon.


SAVINGS FROM PAID PARENTAL LEAVE BUSINESS LEVY (save $1.1 billion)

The cost of the Coalition's more generous paid parental leave scheme will be more than offset in its first two years. The total cost of the scheme over two years is $9.8 billion.
But the 1.5 per cent levy ( ... Great Big New Tax, passed on to consumers) on big business will reap $4.4 billion, replacing existing state and federal funded schemes will save $4.9 billion and $1.6 billion will be clawed back from mothers because their higher incomes under the scheme will mean they pay more tax and will qualify for fewer benefits.


AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion)

A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue.


WIND BACK ASSISTANCE TO CAR INDUSTRY (save $500 million)

In contrast to Labor which is offering ever more assistance to the struggling car industry, an Abbott government would slash car industry grains by half a billion dollars.


AXE CARBON CAPTURE AND STORAGE GRANTS (save $300 million)

A Coalition government would scrap Labor's Carbon Capture and Storage Flagships program and redirect money to pay for its own promises on the environment, which include a multi billion dollar "Direct Action" plan and a $300 million Green Army.

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Adamant wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

Kat wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 6:15am: 150,000 jobs.700,000 unemployed.Yeah, bugger, they're all lazy bludgers.And you're a smacking idiot if you believe it. I personally know 5 people who are dole bludgers who do not want a job. I pay the equivalent of one married couples aged pension a year in income tax. I believe the 5 who do not want to work are stealing money from aged pensioners and I am disgusted by there greed! Why are there 150,000 jobs vacant if everybody wants to work?

Yeah everyone knows there shoudlnt be any jobs vacant hey. Nobody should need any new employees ever.

SOB

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Kat wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 6:15am:

Adamant wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 11:43pm: Kat wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:35pm: Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!! It is so simple for the recipients of the dole to benefit from this, tell them to get a smacking job!!!  It is that simple. Get the lazy bastards working and we will ALL pay less tax. 150,000 jobs. 700,000 unemployed. Yeah, bugger, they're all lazy bludgers. And you're a smacking idiot if you believe it.

What's the job you would like to do but can't find?

Soren wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 11:50am:

Kat wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 6:15am: Adamant wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 11:43pm: Kat wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:35pm: Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!! It is so simple for the recipients of the dole to benefit from this, tell them to get a smacking job!!!  It is that simple. Get the lazy bastards working and we will ALL pay less tax. 150,000 jobs. 700,000 unemployed. Yeah, bugger, they're all lazy bludgers. And you're a smacking idiot if you believe it. What's the job you would like to do but can't find?

well I am after something between the hours of 10am and 11am.. I will make that 11.30am just to show I am willing to work...

close to home would also help...and uniform provided..

holidays and sick days we can talk about...but anything that fair I will accept...

A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government.


I wouldn't expect anything else from the coalition.

The $1.1 billion saving will be put to good use, maybe to help struggling Christian schools, the church, banks, community advertising to tell us to cross the road at the crossing or we might get hit by a car, or maybe even AFL, after all, our national sport can never have enough stadiums.

cods wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 11:56am:

Soren wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:50am: Kat wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 6:15am: Adamant wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 11:43pm: Kat wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:35pm: Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!! It is so simple for the recipients of the dole to benefit from this, tell them to get a smacking job!!!  It is that simple. Get the lazy bastards working and we will ALL pay less tax. 150,000 jobs. 700,000 unemployed. Yeah, bugger, they're all lazy bludgers. And you're a smacking idiot if you believe it. What's the job you would like to do but can't find? well I am after something between the hours of 10am and 11am.. I will make that 11.30am just to show I am willing to work... close to home would also help...and uniform provided.. holidays and sick days we can talk about...but anything that fair I will accept...

Sounds like you want to try volunteering!!
:D

Adamant wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

Why are there 150,000 jobs vacant if everybody wants to work?

skills shortage?

Quote:

Why are there 150,000 jobs vacant if everybody wants to work?

The jobs people have just left to go to another.
The jobs where people have been dismissed.
The jobs where they are still accepting applicants, but haven't begun interviewing yet.
The newly created jobs.
The jobs where they haven't found anybody yet.
The jobs in crap locations.

The jobs vacant figure is only snapshot of the jobs market - it doesn't mean that these positions are newly created, have been vacant for any extended period or are open to those without specialised skills.

Mnemonic wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 4:03pm:

[quote author=adamant link=1377678954/23#23 date=1377736418]Why are there 150,000 jobs vacant if everybody wants to work?

Have a look at them.

Mostly casual and part time, not suitable for a person that has to support a family.

Jim's mowing, mystery shopper, catalogue delivery (you'd have to literally work 24/7 to pay half the rent) many of the advertised jobs are actual scams where you sign up and pay money up front.

Then we have the four hours a week positions, the must have four years experience, the skilled positions, junior positions.

Now, how many manufacturing jobs for middle aged men?

How many jobs for ex public servants? they don't have much skill in the private sector.


That probably leaves 1,000 jobs for 700,000 job seekers.

Unemployment is a major issue........bigger than boat people even.

Adamant wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

Kat wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 6:15am: 150,000 jobs.700,000 unemployed.Yeah, bugger, they're all lazy bludgers.And you're a smacking idiot if you believe it. I personally know 5 people who are dole bludgers who do not want a job. I pay the equivalent of one married couples aged pension a year in income tax. I believe the 5 who do not want to work are stealing money from aged pensioners and I am disgusted by there greed! Why are there 150,000 jobs vacant if everybody wants to work?

Point well missed.

Why are the 550,000 who don't get the jobs all bludgers?

Real facts, not hearsay, speculation or anecdotes.

Come on....

Soren wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 11:50am:

Kat wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 6:15am: Adamant wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 11:43pm: Kat wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:35pm: Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!! It is so simple for the recipients of the dole to benefit from this, tell them to get a smacking job!!!  It is that simple. Get the lazy bastards working and we will ALL pay less tax. 150,000 jobs. 700,000 unemployed. Yeah, bugger, they're all lazy bludgers. And you're a smacking idiot if you believe it. What's the job you would like to do but can't find?

I'm quite happy with the one I have, thanks.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 3:08pm:

A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. I wouldn't expect anything else from the coalition. The $1.1 billion saving will be put to good use, maybe to help struggling Christian schools, the church, banks, community advertising to tell us to cross the road at the crossing or we might get hit by a car, or maybe even AFL, after all, our national sport can never have enough stadiums.

well thats exactly  what I am voting for so that suits me.. :D :D

cods wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 3:08pm: A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. I wouldn't expect anything else from the coalition. The $1.1 billion saving will be put to good use, maybe to help struggling Christian schools, the church, banks, community advertising to tell us to cross the road at the crossing or we might get hit by a car, or maybe even AFL, after all, our national sport can never have enough stadiums. well thats exactly  what I am voting for so that suits me.. :D :D

We know.

We're not surprised.

Bemused, yes, and disgusted, yes.

But not surprised at all.

You are a typical selfish, vindictive conservative.

Kat wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 6:07pm:

cods wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 5:32pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 3:08pm: A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. I wouldn't expect anything else from the coalition. The $1.1 billion saving will be put to good use, maybe to help struggling Christian schools, the church, banks, community advertising to tell us to cross the road at the crossing or we might get hit by a car, or maybe even AFL, after all, our national sport can never have enough stadiums. well thats exactly  what I am voting for so that suits me.. :D :D We know. We're not surprised. Bemused, yes, and disgusted, yes. But not surprised at all. You are a typical selfish, vindictive conservative.

absolutely... couldnt agree more.. ::)

boy has your keyboard caught fire yet???

cods wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 3:08pm: A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. I wouldn't expect anything else from the coalition. The $1.1 billion saving will be put to good use, maybe to help struggling Christian schools, the church, banks, community advertising to tell us to cross the road at the crossing or we might get hit by a car, or maybe even AFL, after all, our national sport can never have enough stadiums. well thats exactly  what I am voting for so that suits me.. :D :D

Yeah cods, you'd drink the cool aid too, if Tony told you to  :(

Kat wrote on Aug 28^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!!

Its a fvcken outrage isnt it, $105 bucks twice a year the dole bludgers will miss out on.

If these people want an extra $105 twice a year they could probably earn more in 2 days work with the minimum wage at over $15 per hour.

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice, if you want more money get a job.

They only give the dole to losers with less than 3k in the bank, i would not qualify for the dole if i lost my job.

Kat wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 5:22pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 11:50am: What's the job you would like to do but can't find? I'm quite happy with the one I have, thanks.

OK, then, of the people on the dole that you know - what are the jobs they would like to do but can't find?

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:35pm: Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!! Its a fvcken outrage isnt it, $105 bucks twice a year the dole bludgers will miss out on. If these people want an extra $105 twice a year they could probably earn more in 2 days work with the minimum wage at over $15 per hour. The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice, if you want more money get a job. They only give the dole to losers with less than 3k in the bank, i would not qualify for the dole if i lost my job.

I'd say for you to come back when you have something worthwhile to contribute, but then we'd never see you again.

Oh - when did the government get $1.1bn out of the mining industry?  ;D

Ha ha - I qualified for the dole as a 'loser' - I had the company go broke syndrome, followed by the 'you're too old' bullshit we get these days, followed by 'no room at the inn for MEN these days' crap, and so on ad nauseum - I was bust because I spent all my remaining money, including superannuation, on bills only to be driven into a corner by never-ending costs added to those when I was bust - after years of paying everything off early.

Talk about the running of the bills!

I should have spent all my remaining money on booze, women, holidays and lotto tickets... then told 'em I had no money anyway....

I guess all those eighteen hour days on call etc, and the woeful 'management' that has ruined this country makes me a 'loser' to some morons!

Now - why am I here - and in other places - again - as the permanent opposition to any and all government idiocy these days and stirring yez all up to revolt as you should if you had any brains?

VOTE 'EM ALL OUT!  ;D  :D  :o

Seeing as how the majority of dole recipients are only on it for the short term, while they're between jobs, getting a hundred bucks twice a year isn't going to really affect them. 

Who it will affect however, is the long term layabouts - and that's precisely who need to be affected.

Adamant wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

Kat wrote on Aug 29th, 2013 at 6:15am: 150,000 jobs.700,000 unemployed.Yeah, bugger, they're all lazy bludgers.And you're a smacking idiot if you believe it. I personally know 5 people who are dole bludgers who do not want a job. I pay the equivalent of one married couples aged pension a year in income tax. I believe the 5 who do not want to work are stealing money from aged pensioners and I am disgusted by there greed! Why are there 150,000 jobs vacant if everybody wants to work?

Wow! Five people! Help!

It's an epidemic! Run for your lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know at least 30 people who are working, bringing up families, paying taxes, saving money, eating peanut butter sandwiches and drinking Diet Coke.

I am adamant in this, adamant. Adamantly adamant, adamant.  :-*

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 29^th, 2013 at 7:59pm:

Kat wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 6:35pm: Quote: AXE A WELFARE SUPPLEMENT FUNDED BY MINING TAX (save $1.1 billion) A twice yearly supplementary allowance paid to dole recipients of $105 a year will no longer be paid by a Coalition government. This supplement was to have been funded by the mining tax revenue. Good one, maggots! Make their miserable existence even worse. How unutterably petty and mean-minded. But, Oh!, so typically conservative. You are a GRUB, Abbott!!! Its a fvcken outrage isnt it, $105 bucks twice a year the dole bludgers will miss out on. If these people want an extra $105 twice a year they could probably earn more in 2 days work with the minimum wage at over $15 per hour. The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice, if you want more money get a job. They only give the dole to losers with less than 3k in the bank, i would not qualify for the dole if i lost my job.

How long do you think your savings would last without a job?

SOB

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