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Title: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by red baron on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am

Seriously, you couldn't vote for that big fat tub of lard could you?...another Snake Oil Salesman...At least Rudd is a good Snake Oil Salesman..Clive Palmer is just a waste of space.

Do your Country a favour and give Abbott a mandate..we don't want the fringe loonies running the joint.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Greens_Win on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:16am

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

So you hate people with extra kilograms and think they should be excluded from the democratic system.

Very telling of you.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Aussie on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:03pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

I hope Clive phucks Abbott big time! He will not do it in the HoR, but he will be a pest in the Senate. Also, as I've been saying in other Threads, there is a realistic chance Clive can take Fairfax (from the Libs) and Fisher (from the Libs ~ Slipper/Brough) the two Sunshine Coast seats in my dung hill......blue ribbon Liberal territory phucked over by LNP neglect and lousy representation by Somlyay (retiring) and Slipper, respectively.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Honky on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:12pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

What is it you don't like about him? Well, other than not being from the liberal party?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by RightSadFred on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:17pm

red baron

He has not done as well as one nation did but he has achieved a lot in a very short period.

He is a nutter if you ask me, he needs better people around him but maybe he has and he doesn't listen to them.

He seems to be onto something.

I hope he gets in with some hard core political strategists and broadens the party appeal.

It will be interesting to see how he goes at the next election.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by pansi1951 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:18pm

Galaxy and Newspoll are Murdoch owned, independent polling companies are saying the election results will be much closer than reported by Murdoch.

Why wouldn't they vote for him? he's no more looney than the person who is about to become prime minister.

I bet he gets more than 6%, I know quite a few people who are voting for him, right whingers too, but he's got a couple of good ideas.

If I had to choose between Clive and Tony, it would be Clive, no doubt.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by dsmithy70 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:19pm

When Aussies are offered no choice they often go the piss take.

An idiot Mr Palmer maybe, but the bigger idiots are the parties offering leaders Australians do not want.

Enjoy that sh!t sandwich Australia, with luck Clive may just force Abbott into that DD

Julia/Rudd, same thing you get the jist ;)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Bam on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:21pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

Galaxy and Newspoll are Murdoch owned, independent polling companies are saying the election results will be much closer than reported by Murdoch.

I didn't know Galaxy was Murdoch owned, but that does explain the quite biased questions that they asked when Galaxy polled me on Monday.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:22pm

... wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:12pm:

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

What is it you don't like about him? Well, other than not being from the liberal party?

He is a KGB agent.

His policies are deigned to infiltrate and destroy.

oops.. not that is Palmers beliefs regarding Abbott.

the man is a NUTTER.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:23pm

Bam wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

Galaxy and Newspoll are Murdoch owned, independent polling companies are saying the election results will be much closer than reported by Murdoch.

I didn't know Galaxy was Murdoch owned, but that does explain the quite biased questions that they asked when Galaxy polled me on Monday.

Id be surprised is Galaxy was owned by Murdoch especially since the source is so unreliable. But at the end of the day, Galaxy is THE most accurate poll so it means nothing.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Honky on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:23pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:22pm:

... wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:12pm:

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

What is it you don't like about him? Well, other than not being from the liberal party?

He is a KGB agent.

His policies are deigned to infiltrate and destroy.

oops.. not that is Palmers beliefs regarding Abbott.

the man is a NUTTER.

If in doubt, just call 'em crazy.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by bobbythebat1 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:25pm

Don't you know we're talking about a revolution?

;D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Aussie on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:28pm

Call him what you like, but he is increasingly looking like a local winner!

Quote:

SUNSHINE Coast Daily readers have confirmed poll results which predict Saturday's election will be no walkover for LNP candidates in Fisher and Fairfax.

A voluntary online survey of voting intentions was run across websites owned by the Daily's parent company APN from Friday to Tuesday.

While it does not have the scientific standing of Roy Morgan, Newspoll and Nielsen, its results identify a trend towards minor parties and in particular the Palmer United Party.

Despite both holding significant primary vote leads in the survey, if the voting trend was replicated on Saturday LNP candidates Ted O'Brien in Fairfax and Mal Brough in Fisher would have fights on their hands, improbable just months ago.

Only 22.7% of survey respondents will give Labor their primary vote, 7.3% fewer than said they had voted that way in 2010.

The Coalition also has suffered a 4.7% fall in support since 2010, down now to 41.7%.

Those numbers would leave it vulnerable to a surge in support for Palmer United Party which attracted 14.6% support in the survey and is also trending past double figures in scientific polls.

It would pick up all minor party preferences including Greens (9.7%), Katter United Party (2.9%), independents (2%) and eventually Labor's.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by life_goes_on on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:30pm

Wow... when the mining tax first entered the news, Clive and the Ginas etc were like talked of like they were saints... how many times on here did people say that people like him (mining companies etc) "saved Australia?"

Now that he is in electoral competition with the Liberals, he's suddenly ranked amongst the bad guys.

How soon we forget how much we all owe the Clives of Australia.

The public are so fickle.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by RightSadFred on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm

life_goes_on

Clive gives conservative minded people an alternative as Abbott is not everyone's cup of right wing tea, in fact by any measure he is more socially progressive then Howard/Costello.

He seems to get away with being a nutter.

If the next evolution of his party moves on from this ...... he could easily double his voter base, especially if Abbott does not deflate the guy. I doubt Abbott would want to attack him slush fund style like he did to one nation. this guy does seem cashed up. the Libs may have a big problem with this party, also the nationals.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Kat on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:52pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

If I wanted to do the country a favour, the LAST person I'd be giving a mandate to would be Abbott.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Bam on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:57pm

For what it's worth, I would much rather have someone from Palmer's party in Parliament (either house) than someone from One Nation.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Peter Freedman on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:14pm

Red must be doing well, all those cheques from Liberal HQ rolling in.

Palmer is very entertaining and deserves a place.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

He will do exactly what One Nation did before him. Arrive on the scene with a splash and then when people listen to the people they elected they will be appalled. They will lsee just how simple and ill-equipped they are for parliament and in 2016 the party will get 0.1% of the vote assuming Palmer hasn't gotten tired of it and thrown it all away - which is a strong possibility.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by cods on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:52pm

how m any years did the Qlds vote in Joh?????...

says it all.. ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by John Smith on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

not to worry, Abbott will arrange another slush fund to take care of Palmer

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Aussie on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:05pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Yeas, it will be very interesting to see what comes from the momentum Clive has presently generated. Assuming he maintains personal interest for a nano-second beyond this election (and there is every reason to believe he will ~ he has always been a political animal) the next test will be the Qld State Election, and like Pauline, he will make a huge splash there. He has different issues from what Pauline had. Clive owns PUP, not one Member has actually paid Membership fees ~ they all have been waived, and there is presently zero Member contribution to Policy.

Pauline had to struggle about control, and the Membership eventually imploded.

Clive has to morph away from the present iron grip if PUP is to have a long term future.

It will soon be called the United Australia Party, as Clive has already made public announcements that once this election is over, he will initiate the necessary legal proceedings to regain a right to use that name, something the AEC denied him for now. He wisely decided to defer that shitefight until after Saturday.

Whether Clive is willing/able to hand over control to his Members will be the crunch moment. Unless he does in reasonable time, many will wave goodbye to Clive.

Quote:

not to worry, Abbott will arrange another slush fund to take care of Palmer

Good luck with that. I'll back Clive's slush fund any day.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:18pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:05pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

not to worry, Abbott will arrange another slush fund to take care of Palmer

Good luck with that. I'll back Clive's slush fund any day.

He will continue to lose the UAP fight as it was the name of a former political party. He might have lots of money but the AEC has more AND law on its side.

I wil bet that after PUP fails to win a single lower house seat (as it will) and senate seat fails or is not in the balance of power than he will lose interest and move on. See how successful PUP will be with literally zero finances. Again, it is the One Nation example all over again.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Kat on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:21pm

If he can keep just one Con-alition member out, that's all good by me.

In this case, the less the merrier.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Aussie on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:22pm

Quote:

Again, it is the One Nation example all over again.

No....it is completely the opposite of One Nation. Pauline did not have the cash to own it. Clive owns PUP.

[He'll just buy UAP if needs be.]

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by bobbythebat1 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:29pm

It's going to be so funny if Clive manages to place his
fat arse on a seat in parliament.

;D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by gizmo_2655 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:34pm

____ wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

So you hate people with extra kilograms and think they should be excluded from the democratic system.

Very telling of you.

Didn't the Labor(/Greens) Government call for an investigation into a 'fat tax' back in May??

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/federal-government-backed-study-into-fat-tax-on-fast-foods/story-fneuz8wn-1226646283704

And Bob Brown as in favour of a 'fat tax' back in 2011..
http://theconversation.com/is-a-fat-tax-the-answer-to-australias-obesity-crisis-3712

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by RightSadFred on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:35pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

not to worry, Abbott will arrange another slush fund to take care of Palmer

John Smith

As opposed to one to help pay off your house.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by red baron on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:43pm

What does Clive Palmer stand for?

What are his policies?

Where are they?

Apart from 30 second inconclusive grabs I see nothing.

Come on Palmer supporters provide the links for the detailed Policies of Palmer, I want to see them...really want to see.

This bloke is blowing smoke up everyone's arse and 6% of you are buying it...laugh out loud ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:48pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:22pm:

Quote:

Again, it is the One Nation example all over again.

No....it is completely the opposite of One Nation. Pauline did not have the cash to own it. Clive owns PUP.

[He'll just buy UAP if needs be.]

cash was NOT ON's problem. its problem was credibility. it won 11 seats in the state parliament and lost every single one next election. why? because they were really, really stupid people way out of their depth. People cringed when they spoke and PUP is no different. Dumb people with no political experience.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:00pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:43pm:

What does Tony Abbott stand for?

What are his policies?

Where are they?

Apart from 30 second inconclusive grabs I see nothing.

Come on Abbott supporters provide the links for the detailed Policies of Abbott, I want to see them...really want to see.

This bloke is blowing smoke up everyone's arse and ... you are buying it...laugh out loud ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

So Red can ask the right questions when its not his hero being attacked. A little sycophantic don't you think. Oh and before Longy replies I think I might get this in F!!K Off!!!

Heheh that was fun

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Aussie on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:08pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:43pm:

Observe Grasshopper!

Come back when you have read it.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by red baron on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:10pm

Im Spartacus2, On the Rolf Harris thread I said that it was a shame that Seinfeld wasn't still on because Longy could write for George Costanza..you know two of a kind thing..two losers...

But not you my sword wielding friend, no way, you are further up the food chain, more of a Kenny Kramer type.

Bet you're home right now working out how to put more levels in your home...either that or working out to be a male model..sounds about right yeah! :D :D :D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by red baron on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:19pm

Im Spartacus2 had verballed me on this thread and made it appear I was criticising Tony Abbott.

This is against all the rules of this Forum and I will be making an official complaint about you.

I don't mind a hard fight but that is wrong on every level.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Honky on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:00pm

PUP candidate Chamonix terblanche has my vote in the senate.

I was happy enough to vote for her simply for having the name Chamonix, then I googled her and found she was quite a looker too.

SOLD!

Now if only I could find someone to vote for in parliament.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:11pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:19pm:

"Ohhh Me thinks he protesteth too much. As if anyone would think you would criticise Abbott. It was obvious you were being paraphrased not verballed. Abbott's name was highlighted for obvious reasons and my note afterwards made it perfectly clear. Truth is you can dish out hateful cr!!p all you like but sook like all get out when your on the receiving end.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by John Smith on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:57pm

... wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:00pm:

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Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by warrigal on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 6:55am

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

yes red we will give Tony Abbott a mandate, but we also need a alternate to the norm, and this man has different ideas to sort the problems, particully on taxation.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by RightSadFred on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:11am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

longweekend58

Can not really agree, Palmer is more $$$ smart and looks far more capable. I think their destiny lies in moving away from Clive the man to become a political party in itself.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by red baron on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:23am

ImSpartascus2 don't try and twist it into something else. I have never, repeat never, seen a single poster on this site do what you did.

All I'm asking you to do is follow the rules.

You have made it appear it said those words about Abbott. Criticise me all you like but don't VERBAL me, it's not on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by cods on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:40am

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

longweekend58

Can not really agree, Palmer is more $$$ smart and looks far more capable. I think their destiny lies in moving away from Clive the man to become a political party in itself.

I sort of read aussies link to Palmer.. too long winded for me.. but I did get to the TAX... and he claims that if business pays its $70bn tax bill at the end of the year instead of forward instalments every 3 months....then they could then spend that $70bn and the govt would gain the GST...and of course the market place would be better off all round...

now my question is...would not companies stop saving for their taxes if they were spending it as Palmers suggests... which in turn means the tax office losing a heck of a lot..

how can a business spend what he would normally pay the taxman.... and still save for the taxman...???? who will be waiting no matter what...

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by PZ547 on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:43am

.

I don't trust Palmer

and the fact he's preferencing Greens finished me with him

I'm glad he showed his true colours during the campaign

He showed me what an unstable character he is

and what a bully

what a loudmouth

how little self-control he has

what a megalomaniac he is

Nope

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 9:01am

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:43pm:

Then I would suggest you go to the PUP website and read for yourself.
They are there if you wish to be informed.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Bam on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 9:21am

cods wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:40am:

he claims that if business pays its $70bn tax bill at the end of the year instead of forward instalments every 3 months....then they could then spend that $70bn and the govt would gain the GST...and of course the market place would be better off all round...

now my question is...would not companies stop saving for their taxes if they were spending it as Palmers suggests... which in turn means the tax office losing a heck of a lot..

how can a business spend what he would normally pay the taxman.... and still save for the taxman...???? who will be waiting no matter what...

It's nonsense. A prudent business would not be spending this money. All that would be available to the business would be the interest earned or saved. This would be something closer to 2 billion dollars, not 70 billion dollars.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 9:29am

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

longweekend58

Can not really agree, Palmer is more $$$ smart and looks far more capable. I think their destiny lies in moving away from Clive the man to become a political party in itself.

led by whom? funded by whom? PUP is nothing more than Clive's personal protest party which when he loses interest - as he will - will simply collapse. It has no grassroots, no real organisation and no real raison d'etre. it will be dead in 3 years - even less if it doesn't win any seats.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 9:31am

Bam wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

cods wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:40am:

and would be offset by the fact that the govt would need to borrow money to run things during the year. it is this kind of insanity which makes Palmer look like a total moron.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by RightSadFred on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 10:19am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 9:29am:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

RightSadFred wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

longweekend58

Can not really agree, Palmer is more $$$ smart and looks far more capable. I think their destiny lies in moving away from Clive the man to become a political party in itself.

longweekend58

Yes right now it is, it needs to evolve, people will get bored with the nutter.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by mantra on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 10:46am

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:43pm:

Clive Palmer has the gift of the gab and his ads sound appealing, but you have to look deeper and read his policies.

Although he's sweetened the edges, his aim is to ramp up the quarrying of Australia.

There is plenty of self interest attached to his policies.

Quote:

Creating mineral wealth to continuously contribute to the welfare of the Australian community. This will be achieved by utilising mineral resources from Queensland and Western Australia, and incentives from the Commonwealth of Australia to establish downstream processing in the States of Victoria, New South Wales and South Australia; and exporting products at a higher dollar value, thereby creating more revenue, jobs, tax and more facilities

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmer_United_Party#Policies

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Honky on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 11:43am

mantra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 10:46am:

There is plenty of self interest attached to his policies.

As opposed to the selfless saints of the other parties?

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by pansi1951 on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:03pm

I'm giving Clive my vote tomorrow.

You've already voted, you say?

Yes, I have, but because voting is compulsory, I need to get my name crossed off at the booth, don't I?

Maybe I need to get crossed off at every booth in my electorate that has my name on the list????? never sure.....oh well!

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:10pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

every time you post you remind us all of why you are held in such contempt on here.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:28pm

red baron wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:23am:

On reflection I agree that I should not have done that not because of your exaggerated claim that it appeared that you said those words but because, as a matter of principle, one ought not to do it. So please accept my apology. I can only say in my defense that I was exuberant last night, exuberant.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by red baron on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:36pm

O.K. ImSpartacus2, apology accepted, I will withdraw my complaint. We're good.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by pansi1951 on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 1:03pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:10pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

every time you post you remind us all of why you are held in such contempt on here.

By you and your multi's......so sad :'(

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 1:03pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am:

Seriously, you couldn't vote for that ... Snake Oil Salesman...Clive Palmer is just a waste of space.

...we don't want the fringe loonies running the joint

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it"

- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)

Quote:

.

Arthur Sinodinos is on the verge of being the federal finance minister if the Coalition wins the election. But a bizarre set of preference swaps could see him defeated first by Pauline Hanson.

Senate preference tickets lodged with the Australian Electoral Commission show that virtually every small right-of-centre party is directing preferences to the One Nation leader ahead of Senator Sinodinos - who sits third on the Coalition ticket.

Pauline Hanson.
Serious political potential: Ms Hanson could reap a significant number of preferences from voters cast for other parties. Photo: Jacky Ghossein

In 2004, when Ms Hanson ran for the Senate in Queensland, she won 4.5 per cent of the vote. Trial runs by Fairfax Media using ABC election analyst Anthony Green's online Senate calculator suggest that if she wins just half of that this time, 2.25 per cent, [highlight]she is on track to take Senator Sinodinos' seat.[/highlight]

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/hanson-poses-a-real-threat-to-sinodinos-cabinet-hopes-20130828-2squo.html#ixzz2e4sqsuOL

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by red baron on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 1:07pm

Voter Liberal or Labor, leave the rest of them on the shelf, particularly the Greens, the loonies have taken over the asylum in that Party.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 1:27pm

red baron wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:

O.K. ImSpartacus2, apology accepted, I will withdraw my complaint. We're good.

I don't care whether you complained or not and the fact that you sought to characterise my apology as something I did to avoid your complaint shows just how despicably you people behave always down in the gutter, never pausing to pull some dirty trick and always the first to whinge when you get some of your own back. I apologised because I thought as matter of principle it was the right thing to do. Something you wouldn't understand.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by PZ547 on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 1:30pm

Pansi

You must know how pathetic you sound

without anyone needing to tell you

With lack of integrity such as you've displayed

your life must be crap

deservedly so

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 1:42pm

red baron wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 1:07pm:

Voter Liberal or Labor, leave the rest of them on the shelf, particularly the Greens.

I'll be giving my primary vote to the GREENS, for the first time ( ... I think ? - but I'm trying to recall 25, odd, elections here) in the lower house - with a second to LABOR

My SENATE vote will go to the GREENS ( ... below the line) with a second to LABOR

The GREENS are the ONLY party with a renewable energy policy I can ~~agree with~~ RELATE TO

The ALP go HALF-WAY

The LibNats have no renewable energy policy at ALL

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 2:03pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 1:42pm:

red baron wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 1:07pm:

Voter Liberal or Labor, leave the rest of them on the shelf, particularly the Greens.

well I am looking forward to you being disappointed with the result juas as you were in the Vic state election.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Aussie on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:09pm

Clive looks like doing what was regarded as virtually impossible in Fairfax. {Exit polling done by PUP.}

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Innocent bystander on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:12pm

Some did paint Clive as being rather f#ckin mad but now next to Rudd he seems to look positively sane so like Tony I hope Clive also thanks Rudd for all the help Rudd has provided to his opposition candidates, none of them would have got anywhere without his help ;D

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Aussie on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:14pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:

True to this extent......if Clive gets up, it will be on ALP preferences.

Title: Re: Clive Palmer polling 6% have people gone mad?
Post by Justin Case on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 8:48pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 6^th, 2013 at 7:09pm:

Clive looks like doing what was regarded as virtually impossible in Fairfax. {Exit polling done by PUP.}

If the economy was as important as they make out, he should win hands down! After all, he is the only Billionaire in this contest and should know, what he is doing! ;)