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Message started by MOTR on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:15pm

Title: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by MOTR on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:15pm
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2013/September/5171-4pm-Exit-Poll-Primary.JPG?h=510&w=800

No idea how to interpret these exit polls. My guess is that they would be biased left with conservative voters more likely to vote before polling day. No idea about how WA would effect them either.

Appreciate some informed analysis.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by progressiveslol on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:16pm
That is all it has ever done. The 10 percenter nutter party

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by thelastnail on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:26pm
I voted for the greens in the house of reps and Assange in  the senate.

If I'm one of those nutters then I consider it to be a noble title ;)


Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by MOTR on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:30pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority


What time was that, longy?

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:37pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority


What time was that, longy?


15mins ago. channel 9.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 7th, 2013 at 6:45pm



Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by bobbythebat1 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 7:19pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:26pm:
I voted for the greens in the house of reps and Assange in  the senate.

If I'm one of those nutters then I consider it to be a noble title ;)



Good voting Nail,
Tony may have to deal with the Greens.
He won't like that.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by gizmo_2655 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 7:43pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority


What time was that, longy?


Well right now, the ABC Australia Votes has the Greens at 8.3% (7:41 Pm)

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by MOTR on Sep 7th, 2013 at 8:16pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 7:43pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority


What time was that, longy?


Well right now, the ABC Australia Votes has the Greens at 8.3% (7:41 Pm)


Is that a count or an exit poll. Are prevotes counted early.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by gizmo_2655 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 8:29pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 7:43pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority


What time was that, longy?


Well right now, the ABC Australia Votes has the Greens at 8.3% (7:41 Pm)


Is that a count or an exit poll. Are prevotes counted early.


I think it's a count. Don't believe prevotes or postal have been counted yet

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by Chimp_Logic on Sep 7th, 2013 at 8:33pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:26pm:
I voted for the greens in the house of reps and Assange in  the senate.

If I'm one of those nutters then I consider it to be a noble title ;)


The senate should be very interesting if Julian Assange wins a Victorian Senate seat.

Assuming they can get him into the country to take his seat in parliament

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by MOTR on Sep 7th, 2013 at 8:47pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 8:29pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 7:43pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority


What time was that, longy?


Well right now, the ABC Australia Votes has the Greens at 8.3% (7:41 Pm)


Is that a count or an exit poll. Are prevotes counted early.


I think it's a count. Don't believe prevotes or postal have been counted yet


I can remember something about the system changing and prevotes being counting early on.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by skippy. on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:13pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

The Greens vote has held up and contrary to the conga line here Bandt will also hold his seat.
ALSO, the Greens vote had INCREASED by 1.8 percent in NSW,great job.
ALSO, labor look like winning 58 seats with a Palmer seat as well.
The fact phoney Tony will be hated within months Labor are certainly going to be in striking power at next election.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by JC Denton on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:23pm
knew abbott was going to clean up

though skip is prob right hes likely a one termer i'd bet on it

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:32pm

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

The Greens vote has held up and contrary to the conga line here Bandt will also hold his seat.
ALSO, the Greens vote had INCREASED by 1.8 percent in NSW,great job.
ALSO, labor look like winning 58 seats with a Palmer seat as well.
The fact phoney Tony will be hated within months Labor are certainly going to be in striking power at next election.


Greens are at 8.5 down from last times 11.7


only you could see that as a great result. idiot.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by gizmo_2655 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:37pm

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

The Greens vote has held up and contrary to the conga line here Bandt will also hold his seat.
ALSO, the Greens vote had INCREASED by 1.8 percent in NSW,great job.
ALSO, labor look like winning 58 seats with a Palmer seat as well.
The fact phoney Tony will be hated within months Labor are certainly going to be in striking power at next election.


Maybe, but maybe not..Remember the Lib preferences are going to the Lab candidate

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by Greens_Win on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:42pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

The Greens vote has held up and contrary to the conga line here Bandt will also hold his seat.
ALSO, the Greens vote had INCREASED by 1.8 percent in NSW,great job.
ALSO, labor look like winning 58 seats with a Palmer seat as well.
The fact phoney Tony will be hated within months Labor are certainly going to be in striking power at next election.


Maybe, but maybe not..Remember the Lib preferences are going to the Lab candidate



A poll about three days ago showed about 40% of lib voters will go against party orders and preference Greens ahead of Labor.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/melbourne-voters-go-green-over-libs-decision-to-back-labor-20130903-2t3dp.html

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by skippy. on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:32pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

The Greens vote has held up and contrary to the conga line here Bandt will also hold his seat.
ALSO, the Greens vote had INCREASED by 1.8 percent in NSW,great job.
ALSO, labor look like winning 58 seats with a Palmer seat as well.
The fact phoney Tony will be hated within months Labor are certainly going to be in striking power at next election.


Greens are at 8.5 down from last times 11.7


only you could see that as a great result. idiot.

Thanks for the troll, Fool, but dispute my facts? NO ,you can't because they're true, loser.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by skippy. on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:47pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

The Greens vote has held up and contrary to the conga line here Bandt will also hold his seat.
ALSO, the Greens vote had INCREASED by 1.8 percent in NSW,great job.
ALSO, labor look like winning 58 seats with a Palmer seat as well.
The fact phoney Tony will be hated within months Labor are certainly going to be in striking power at next election.


Maybe, but maybe not..Remember the Lib preferences are going to the Lab candidate

Bandt has already been on TV accepting the win. ;D

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by gizmo_2655 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:50pm

____ wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:42pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

The Greens vote has held up and contrary to the conga line here Bandt will also hold his seat.
ALSO, the Greens vote had INCREASED by 1.8 percent in NSW,great job.
ALSO, labor look like winning 58 seats with a Palmer seat as well.
The fact phoney Tony will be hated within months Labor are certainly going to be in striking power at next election.


Maybe, but maybe not..Remember the Lib preferences are going to the Lab candidate



A poll about three days ago showed about 40% of lib voters will go against party orders and preference Greens ahead of Labor.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/melbourne-voters-go-green-over-libs-decision-to-back-labor-20130903-2t3dp.html


Yeah, and Newspoll predicted the Libs picking up 32-40 seats, and that doesn't look like it'll happen. Poll predictions aren't always 100%.

For Bandt's seat, I'd wait until a lot more votes are counted.
There's still about 19 booths to count, and there's only 10% between Bandt and Bowtell.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by Greens_Win on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:57pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:50pm:

____ wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:42pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

The Greens vote has held up and contrary to the conga line here Bandt will also hold his seat.
ALSO, the Greens vote had INCREASED by 1.8 percent in NSW,great job.
ALSO, labor look like winning 58 seats with a Palmer seat as well.
The fact phoney Tony will be hated within months Labor are certainly going to be in striking power at next election.


Maybe, but maybe not..Remember the Lib preferences are going to the Lab candidate



A poll about three days ago showed about 40% of lib voters will go against party orders and preference Greens ahead of Labor.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/melbourne-voters-go-green-over-libs-decision-to-back-labor-20130903-2t3dp.html


Yeah, and Newspoll predicted the Libs picking up 32-40 seats, and that doesn't look like it'll happen. Poll predictions aren't always 100%.

For Bandt's seat, I'd wait until a lot more votes are counted.
There's still about 19 booths to count, and there's only 10% between Bandt and Bowtell.


44% Primary for Adam, an 8.5% increase.
2PP : 44.3/55.7 to the Greens.
Sure it's not official until all votes are counted.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:11pm
the greens lost 30% of their vote.  It is amazing listening to you wankers crowing about ONE SEAT while in the other 149 you did 30% worse than last time.  and in the senate you are losing your balance of power.

it has been a disaster for the Greens,

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by John Smith on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:17pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:11pm:
the greens lost 30% of their vote.  It is amazing listening to you wankers crowing about ONE SEAT while in the other 149 you did 30% worse than last time.  and in the senate you are losing your balance of power.

it has been a disaster for the Greens,


when you only have one seat you can only crow about one seat.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by MOTR on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:22pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:11pm:
the greens lost 30% of their vote.  It is amazing listening to you wankers crowing about ONE SEAT while in the other 149 you did 30% worse than last time.  and in the senate you are losing your balance of power.

it has been a disaster for the Greens,


when you only have one seat you can only crow about one seat.


Defying Murdoch and the two major parties. Quite a coup if Adam can pull it off.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:42pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:11pm:
the greens lost 30% of their vote.  It is amazing listening to you wankers crowing about ONE SEAT while in the other 149 you did 30% worse than last time.  and in the senate you are losing your balance of power.

it has been a disaster for the Greens,


when you only have one seat you can only crow about one seat.


Defying Murdoch and the two major parties. Quite a coup if Adam can pull it off.


one seat while everywhere else the vote just crumbles.  and lets see how good his votes last in 2016 when he has had 3 years of complete irrelevance and zero access to the levers of power.  You can be pretty sure Abbott will give him (and Wilkie) and extremely cold shoulder.  those latte sipping inner-suburban greenies who never get their hands dirty will grow tired of an MP who achieves nothing.

green vote at 8.7%  a truly appalling performance  - but pretty much what I predicted!

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by PZ547 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:45pm
Greens spiralling out of existence

Which is why there's all the bitching and whining and carping


I'm disgusted by the immaturity of Greens and Labor losers here

For some reason, I expected better


Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by gizmo_2655 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:51pm

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

The Greens vote has held up and contrary to the conga line here Bandt will also hold his seat.
ALSO, the Greens vote had INCREASED by 1.8 percent in NSW,great job.
ALSO, labor look like winning 58 seats with a Palmer seat as well.
The fact phoney Tony will be hated within months Labor are certainly going to be in striking power at next election.


Maybe, but maybe not..Remember the Lib preferences are going to the Lab candidate

Bandt has already been on TV accepting the win. ;D


Oh ok, I must have missed that bit. (Only time i saw him was with 10.4% counted).

Guess you can't have everything you wish for. Still, 2 out 3 is good enough.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:56pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:51pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:47pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 9:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 7th, 2013 at 5:29pm:
The galaxy exit polls has greens on 9% which is in line with the polls.  it also has a 2PP 54.5/45.5  which equates to about 45 seat majority

The Greens vote has held up and contrary to the conga line here Bandt will also hold his seat.
ALSO, the Greens vote had INCREASED by 1.8 percent in NSW,great job.
ALSO, labor look like winning 58 seats with a Palmer seat as well.
The fact phoney Tony will be hated within months Labor are certainly going to be in striking power at next election.


Maybe, but maybe not..Remember the Lib preferences are going to the Lab candidate

Bandt has already been on TV accepting the win. ;D


Oh ok, I must have missed that bit. (Only time i saw him was with 10.4% counted).

Guess you can't have everything you wish for. Still, 2 out 3 is good enough.


it will be interesting listening to FD and Greens_lose tell us how well the Greens did while losing 30% of their vote.

IN SA it looks like Mr X will get his running mate thru at the expense of the Greens,  :)

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 7th, 2013 at 11:58pm
Libs got only a smidge more senate votes than Mr X and labor a long way behind. 

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by gizmo_2655 on Sep 8th, 2013 at 12:08am
At least they should be able to scrap the CT now. They might have to wait until July next year, unless the new Labor leader is smart enough recognise the will of the voters.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 8th, 2013 at 12:10am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 12:08am:
At least they should be able to scrap the CT now. They might have to wait until July next year, unless the new Labor leader is smart enough recognise the will of the voters.


I don't know that there is a Labor leader smart enough to do that.  I suspect they will stubbornly deny the mandate given by the people and see if next time they can lose even more seats and senators.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by iceyone on Sep 8th, 2013 at 12:17am
The ALP should scrap the CT and let Tony introduce his plan.

If it's good for Australia then it shouldn't cost us more.

Title: Re: Greens Vote holding up according to Morgan.
Post by RightSadFred on Sep 8th, 2013 at 9:14am
iceyone

The ALP's big mistake was Knifing Rudd, their second biggest mistake was doing a dirty deal with those extreme greens (their words) and lying about it.



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