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Title: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by iceyone on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:00pm

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionFirstPrefs-17496-218.htm

Not looking great for Sophie!

Oh well - sucks to be her then!

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:03pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionFirstPrefs-17496-218.htm

Not looking great for Sophie!

Oh well - sucks to be her then!

The entire insurance industry, was built on the saying, SH!T HAPPENS"!

Perhaps, Sophie could consider a career change, TO THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:03pm

Maybe next election we will see a decent local Coalition candidate.

This woman is a disgrace, pure and simple.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Greens_Win on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:10pm

It's a blow for Abbott, Sophia was a lynchpin of Abbott's compassionate section of the team.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by life_goes_on on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:20pm

The Nationals supported the independent candidate over Sophie Mirabella.
A decent chunk of her fellow Liberal MPs would be happy to see the end of her.

She isn't a good look for the party.

Quote:

THE electoral plight of noted parliamentary pugilist Sophie Mirabella is promoting ghoulish intrigue among her political colleagues.

For her sworn opponents in the Labor Party with whom she has grappled so vigorously during her 12 years in parliament, the notion of Mrs Mirabella fighting for her political life draws undisguised pleasure.

From the National Party that directed its preferences to her independent opponent Cathy McGowan, there came thinly-veiled satisfaction.

And even from Liberal Party colleagues who didn't need her to secure their victory, it prompted treasonous mutterings.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/mirabella-fighting-for-political-life/story-fn3dxiwe-1226714697452

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by adelcrow on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:54pm

Sophie Mirabella from the Libs and Don Farrell from Labor are both nasty pieces of work and Im glad to see both of them get the boot.
I doubt that either of them will ever do an honest days work and sadly their parties will look after them with some cushy highly paid positions.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:54pm

I was gonna say she can go suck a fat one but she would only do it if there was a couple of mil and an inheritance in it for her

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by John Smith on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:55pm

I still can't believe anyone voted for her ..... she's a nasty piece of work she is.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by aquascoot on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:03pm

the independant is an ex national party member. i dont think she'll be lining up with the left

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Bam on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:03pm:

the independant is an ex national party member. i dont think she'll be lining up with the left

I don't think anyone really cares about that as long as Mirabella is defeated. She's currently 1,754 behind on the two-candidate count according to the AEC.

This is someone that wouldn't lift a finger to help when someone loses consciousness while sitting next to her on live television. Make no mistake, she is not a nice person.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by adelcrow on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:24pm

Grooming an old man so she could rip off his families inheritance was the lowest of the low.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by life_goes_on on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:39pm

"grooming" - new speak for "seducing", cause it sounds more sinister. Like "IED" instead of "homemade bomb".

But yeah.... Sophie Mirabella - one nasty piece of work.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:03pm:

the independant is an ex national party member. i dont think she'll be lining up with the left

shes also on record as applauding Abbott during the campaign

Anyhow, with a 30+ seat majority, Abbott doesn't need her vote.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:08pm

He might not need her vote, but at least indi won't get ignored from now on

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Bam on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:08pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:03pm:

the independant is an ex national party member. i dont think she'll be lining up with the left

shes also on record as applauding Abbott during the campaign

Anyhow, with a 30+ seat majority, Abbott doesn't need her vote.

None of this matters. Mirabella's gone. Good riddance to Liberal party deadwood.
;D

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by adelcrow on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:03pm:

the independant is an ex national party member. i dont think she'll be lining up with the left

shes also on record as applauding Abbott during the campaign

Anyhow, with a 30+ seat majority, Abbott doesn't need her vote.

Three years of herding cats should be fun for Tony...he cant stick em all in jail ;D

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:32pm

Bam wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:08pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:03pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:03pm:

the independant is an ex national party member. i dont think she'll be lining up with the left

shes also on record as applauding Abbott during the campaign

Anyhow, with a 30+ seat majority, Abbott doesn't need her vote.

None of this matters. Mirabella's gone. Good riddance to Liberal party deadwood.
;D

Au Contraire... the only thing that DOES matter is that Abbott has a large majority with or without Sophie. I think you find that most peoples care factor is small. plus she has been replaced by an independent with very obvious pro-abbot sympathies. Not exactly a win for you lefties.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:58pm

Ex-National so-called 'conservative' independent? How do we know that Mrs McGowan is not another Windsor or Oakeshott?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:00pm

It would be disappointimg for the hard-right faction, if Sophie did lose.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Innocent bystander on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:00pm

adelcrow wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:25pm:

Three years of herding cats should be fun for Tony...he cant stick em all in jail ;D

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Bam on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:03pm

matty wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:58pm:

Ex-National so-called 'conservative' independent? How do we know that Mrs McGowan is not another Windsor or Oakeshott?

Maybe she's another Hanson?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:11pm

Bam wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

matty wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:58pm:

Ex-National so-called 'conservative' independent? How do we know that Mrs McGowan is not another Windsor or Oakeshott?

Maybe she's another Hanson?

Pauline was never a member of the Nats.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:16pm

McGowan will be twice the local member Sophie was, which wouldn't be hard.

Sophie tried to blame the greens, ALP, getup and vested interests instead of looking in the mirror for her terrible performance. The ALp did nothing in indi because it knew it hadno chance and wasn't going to spend a cent.

What was interesting, not one single tv or radio commercial for sussan ley, yet Sophie was bombarding them night and day for weeks

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Postmodern Trendoid on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:19pm

Her downfall was because of sexism, just like Gillard's.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:22pm

Verge wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

Really? If Sophie is elected, they will have the Minister for Industry as their local MP, ie, a frontbencher of an incumbent government.

And what does Sussan Ley have to do with the price of tea in China?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:29pm

Sussan ley is across the river and share the same local broadcasters for news. Also, did you see the nice peice a week ago where major local identities slammed Sophie for claiming in election pamphlets credit for projects she had nothing to do with. Sophie has delivered zip for indi.

Tell me Matty, what do you regard as the worst peice of legislation passed by the Gillard government?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:57pm

Verge wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:29pm:

I know who Sussan Ley is, I just don't see any relevance.

As I said, Verge, how do we know that Mrs McGowan is not another Windsor or Oakeshott, ie an ex-Nat, pretending to be a conservative? Also, as I said the people of Indi would have a government frontbencher as their local representative.

The worst piece of legislation was the carbon tax.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 9:02pm

Do you not find it interesting that ley increased her lead without the need for advertising, yet 100 meters away Sophie bombarded the electorate.

Why, because ley is a local rep with reputation. Sophie spends most of her time in Melbourne and doesn't give a toss about her electorate.

Indi was and is heavily opposed to the carbon tax. Where was the member for indi when this vote was conducted and why weren't they represented?

Considering a chunk of mcgowans election was funded by national party people, it's unfair to call her an oakeshott or Windsor.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by MOTR on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 9:26pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionFirstPrefs-17496-218.htm

Not looking great for Sophie!

Oh well - sucks to be her then!

Yesterday she seemed to be in the prime position with the conservative absentee vote still to come. What happened today?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Mnemonic on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 12:51am

Bam wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

This is someone that wouldn't lift a finger to help when someone loses consciousness while sitting next to her on live television. Make no mistake, she is not a nice person.

I would probably be just as bad. When that happens, not everybody responds appropriately. Sophie is off the hook as far as I'm concerned.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by True Colours on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 4:53am

Compassion

Mirabella in hot seat over QC lover's dying days

...it is now alleged, and what she had never admitted even to her family, was that Howard, 40 years her senior, was also her live-in lover for five years in the late 1990s...

...she had received gifts from him valued at well over $100,000 to help her election to Federal Parliament in 2001...

...she was the executor of his will and, his family believes, its sole beneficiary. If this is the case she stands to inherit Howard's $1 million house in a prime street in the Melbourne suburb of Carlton....

...she had also promised him that she'd employ him in her electorate office should she win the vote.

But soon after the election win in 2001 they began to grow apart...she is alleged to have told him, her backbencher's staff entitlement was not sufficient to employ him.

In 2002 Panopoulos met and formed a relationship with another man. Howard went back to his life. Always socially awkward, his circle shrunk to his two children and the owners of his local restaurant, Abla's.

In 2006, Panopoulos married Lieutenant-Colonel Greg Mirabella. Howard attended the Wangaratta wedding. But during Mervyn's family visit at Christmas 2006, he was given cause to worry. Colin told Mervyn he had given his former girlfriend a sum of money large enough that he had to cash in one of his pensions. The money, he said, was to help her buy a house because she and Greg could not afford it alone. Mervyn suspects, but does not know, that it was about $100,000. Further worrying Mervyn was his father's comment that Mirabella had asked him not to tell anyone about it...

http://www.smh.com.au/national/mirabella-in-hot-seat-over-qc-lovers-dying-days-20110922-1knct.html

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Spot of Borg on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 6:52am

This crap goes on all the time. Its only even news because its a pollie.

SOB

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Bam on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 8:09am

matty wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:11pm:

Bam wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

matty wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:58pm:

Ex-National so-called 'conservative' independent? How do we know that Mrs McGowan is not another Windsor or Oakeshott?

Maybe she's another Hanson?

Pauline was never a member of the Nats.

She was a member of a Coalition party (the Liberal party).

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Bam on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 8:12am

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:19pm:

Her downfall was because of sexism, just like Gillard's.

How? She was just plain nasty.

If there was sexism, why is she being replaced by a FEMALE independent?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 9:05am

I have enjoyed seeing Mirrabella blame this result on an organised effort of the greens, the ALP, Get Up and Unions, even though the Greens and ALP vote plummeted in Indi.

Talk about dillusional.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Oh_Yeah on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 1:03pm

Sophie is something like 1800 behind which is fantastic news. I dont think I could have stomached her smug arrogance as a minister.
I couldn't watch QandA when she was on it.

Don't let the door hit you on the ar$e on the way out

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by iceyone on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:26pm

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/mirabella-trails-as-1003-missing-votes-uncovered/story-e6frfkp9-1226716939386

1003 votes (all for her opponent) that were misplaced or forgotten about?

This is why the current system needs an overhaul!

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by thelastnail on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:34pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 5:00pm:

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDivisionFirstPrefs-17496-218.htm

Not looking great for Sophie!

Oh well - sucks to be her then!

there's no room for garden gnomes in politics. They usually either get booted or stolen :D

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by FriYAY on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 4:06pm

adelcrow wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 6:24pm:

Grooming an old man so she could rip off his families inheritance was the lowest of the low.

LOL

After some of the slanderous filth you post up here?

You dam loops are all dam hypocrites.

::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

Hey Verge, I'm asking you this because I gather you are in Mirabella's electorate. I read something today that said that when Rudd delivered the sorry speech SM went about her electorate calling out to indigenous constituents "Not Sorry". Sounds extraordinary that someone would do such a thing. Have you ever heard of anything like that happening. Not very nice if it did, IMO

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:17pm

No offense to Mrs McGowan, but if she does win, it just goes to show what a farce our system is. The fact that someone can get in with 32% of the vote, over someone with 45%, is ludicrous.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:20pm

Bam wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 8:09am:

matty wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:11pm:

Bam wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

matty wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 7:58pm:

Ex-National so-called 'conservative' independent? How do we know that Mrs McGowan is not another Windsor or Oakeshott?

Maybe she's another Hanson?

Pauline was never a member of the Nats.

She was a member of a Coalition party (the Liberal party).

Your point being?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Postmodern Trendoid on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 7:23pm

Bam wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 8:12am:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:19pm:

Her downfall was because of sexism, just like Gillard's.

How? She was just plain nasty.

If there was sexism, why is she being replaced by a FEMALE independent?

What we progressives say doesn't have to make sense. All that matters is that the people believe it to be true.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:11pm

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Why wouldn't you have sat there. Does your hatred really run that deep?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Dnarever on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:29pm

There are worse people in the world than Mirabella and many of them are in the Liberal party.

I wish her well she is probably better off out of politics anyway - she wasn't very good at it.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:46pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Why wouldn't you have sat there. Does your hatred really run that deep?

No, I just don't believe that the 'stolen' generation was necessarily a bad thing, nor am I sorry for something that I didn't do.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:47pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:29pm:

There are worse people in the world than Mirabella and many of them are in the Liberal party.

I wish her well she is probably better off out of politics anyway - she wasn't very good at it.

Really? Who are those people, and why isn't she any good?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by True Colours on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 1:12am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:29pm:

There are worse people in the world than Mirabella and many of them are in the Liberal party.

The Liberals have Cory "Gone Burkas" Bernardi, and Arthur "Children Overboard" Sinodinos. They have Mal Brough who was involved in the Slipper affair. Then there is the leader, Tony Abbott, who has been described as sexist, racist, xenophobic religious nutter, who had Pauline Hanson thrown in jail.

Yes, some real grubs in the Liberal Party.

They must be grateful that mate of corrupt coppers and heroin dealers failed to get elected in this election.

They will probably also be sighs of relief if Mirabella loses her seat - who would want to work with her?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Bam on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 7:52am

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

No offense to Mrs McGowan, but if she does win, it just goes to show what a farce our system is. The fact that someone can get in with 32% of the vote, over someone with 45%, is ludicrous.

Not really. Most people who didn't vote for either candidate preferred McGowan to Mirabella with a margin of about 19% to 4%.

Mirabella was a piece of filth and she got what she deserved. If the Liberals had fielded a better candidate they would have won.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by bigvicfella on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 8:08am

Perhaps if she changed her last name to Bracks, then put a "s" on the end of Mr - she could take his ex job in New York. She must be a front row contender and it will save having to rebook the tickets ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:21am

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Only you and Mirrabella could be so arrogant and self indulgent to make such a matter more about you than as a matter the leaders of Australia making an attempt to right the wrongs of the past.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by skippy. on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:23am

Ahh the sweetest victory of them all , I say to Mirrabella, SUCKED IN BITCH.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:23am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

Thankfully Im across the River from her. I was disgusted when she did that. What kind of person goes about deliberatley trying to divide the people on such an issue by being so against it. Nice way to get the indigenious people on side. I was also offended when at the next address she goes on in her welcome speech to acknowledge the traditional owners of the land in Wangratta. I couldnt believe the hypocracy of this woman. What a dog.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:24am

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:29pm:

There are worse people in the world than Mirabella and many of them are in the Liberal party.

I wish her well she is probably better off out of politics anyway - she wasn't very good at it.

Really? Who are those people, and why isn't she any good?

Her representation of Indi and the respect she had for them was best displayed when she cast her vote for the Carbon tax, something the people of Indi were heavily opposed to.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:58am

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Only you and Mirrabella could be so arrogant and self indulgent to make such a matter more about you than as a matter the leaders of Australia making an attempt to right the wrongs of the past.

I think that you're overdramatising it just a bit.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:59am

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:24am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:29pm:

There are worse people in the world than Mirabella and many of them are in the Liberal party.

I wish her well she is probably better off out of politics anyway - she wasn't very good at it.

Really? Who are those people, and why isn't she any good?

Her representation of Indi and the respect she had for them was best displayed when she cast her vote for the Carbon tax, something the people of Indi were heavily opposed to.

No, she didn't. She was excluded from Parliament, and as such, couldn't vote either way.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:04am

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:59am:

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:24am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:47pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:29pm:

There are worse people in the world than Mirabella and many of them are in the Liberal party.

I wish her well she is probably better off out of politics anyway - she wasn't very good at it.

Really? Who are those people, and why isn't she any good?

Her representation of Indi and the respect she had for them was best displayed when she cast her vote for the Carbon tax, something the people of Indi were heavily opposed to.

No, she didn't. She was excluded from Parliament, and as such, couldn't vote either way.

Exactly. She showed at that very time the respect she had for her own electorate. She couldnt shut her mouth running off, and got herself booted out when the most important vote of some time was happening.

The people of Indi had no voice in the parliament that day because of her actions.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:09am

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Why wouldn't you have sat there. Does your hatred really run that deep?

No, I just don't believe that the 'stolen' generation was necessarily a bad thing, nor am I sorry for something that I didn't do.

Are you a parent? I just cant believe that you could be a parent to say something so selfish, detached and cruel as that. As far back as 1915 a Victorian Parliamentarian described what was happening as "children being stolen" because children were being taken from their parents without any evidence that they were in need or being mistreated. Justice Wilson, formally of the High court, investigated this whole thing and when he wrote his report saw fit to include the word "Stolen" in the title of his report because he thought it accurately described what had happened. And after all that and the untold misery that people suffered having their families being torn apart, all you can think of was that it wasn't you so why should you say sorry. Its all about "me" with Liberals. How can you build a community with people who are all about "ME"

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:13am

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Only you and Mirrabella could be so arrogant and self indulgent to make such a matter more about you than as a matter the leaders of Australia making an attempt to right the wrongs of the past.

I think that you're overdramatising it just a bit.

Let me put it this way. If you ever arrived on my doorstop and tried to take my children from me in the name of "government policy", I would kill you. That is no dramalisation.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:38am

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:13am:

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Only you and Mirrabella could be so arrogant and self indulgent to make such a matter more about you than as a matter the leaders of Australia making an attempt to right the wrongs of the past.

I think that you're overdramatising it just a bit.

Let me put it this way. If you ever arrived on my doorstop and tried to take my children from me in the name of "government policy", I would kill you. That is no dramalisation.

Of course you would. I'm with you. And I dare say Matty would too. But have sympathy for people who were put through that. No not "me" "me' Me' me' Matty. Instead he would much rather dissect the finer points of what saying sorry means and whether that could somehow reflect adversely on him if someone were to understand the word sorry in a way that might suggest that he was somehow responsible even though he was not born yet. How absurd, how fabricated is that argument and what a transparent disguise for raceism it is.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 2:23pm

matty wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:22pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

Indi wont have their member as a minister or on the front bench.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by John Smith on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 2:33pm

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 2:23pm:

matty wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:22pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 9^th, 2013 at 8:16pm:

Indi wont have their member as a minister or on the front bench.

One win down, another one to go.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 3:07pm

One of my good friend's father, who I really don't think has ever voted anything other than for the Liberal Party - refused to vote for her on the weekend.

When you have a classic "Liberal" such as this man, big on principle, hard working small businessman - feeling he has nobody he could vote for in a Liberal camp - then you begin to realize how toxic this woman must be to people.

He is a walking example of why its gone from Liberal stronghold to potential loss.

Whilst I don't know her personally and I am not a fan of personally abusing politicians per se, she doesn't come across as being either particularly intelligent or a pleasant person.

I don't like any of Albanese or Bowen's policies but both strike me as decent blokes.
That's the difference.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by bigvicfella on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 3:45pm

Oh Tony! You so BBBBIIIGGGG!!!!!!

Crikey My Hoover won't have that suction!

sc-thumb_mirabella_20130910074420654546-620x349.jpg (54 KB | 27 )

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:55pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:09am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Why wouldn't you have sat there. Does your hatred really run that deep?

No, I just don't believe that the 'stolen' generation was necessarily a bad thing, nor am I sorry for something that I didn't do.

No, I am not a parent, I am only 23. The whole fact is that many Aboriginal children were being neglected, and were better off without their birth parents.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:56pm

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:13am:

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Only you and Mirrabella could be so arrogant and self indulgent to make such a matter more about you than as a matter the leaders of Australia making an attempt to right the wrongs of the past.

I think that you're overdramatising it just a bit.

Let me put it this way. If you ever arrived on my doorstop and tried to take my children from me in the name of "government policy", I would kill you. That is no dramalisation.

I wouldn't need to if you treated your kids well.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:57pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:38am:

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:13am:

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Verge wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:21am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Only you and Mirrabella could be so arrogant and self indulgent to make such a matter more about you than as a matter the leaders of Australia making an attempt to right the wrongs of the past.

I think that you're overdramatising it just a bit.

Let me put it this way. If you ever arrived on my doorstop and tried to take my children from me in the name of "government policy", I would kill you. That is no dramalisation.

That's not the case, it's just that I am not at all sorry for something that I didn't do.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Bam on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 8:07pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

Multiply this by several thousand, and that's one reason why Mirabella has recorded the biggest swing against a sitting Coalition member anywhere in the country. McGowan also ran a good campaign over six months or more.

If she performs well as a local member, she will be re-elected.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Bam on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 8:09pm

Vic wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 3:45pm:

Oh Tony! You so BBBBIIIGGGG!!!!!!

Crikey My Hoover won't have that suction!

Hmm. Conga line of suck holes?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 8:34pm

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:55pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:09am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Why wouldn't you have sat there. Does your hatred really run that deep?

No, I just don't believe that the 'stolen' generation was necessarily a bad thing, nor am I sorry for something that I didn't do.

No, I am not a parent, I am only 23. The whole fact is that many Aboriginal children were being neglected, and were better off without their birth parents.

Read Justice Wilson's report if its the truth and not racism that drives you. One day when you grow up and are ever a father you might reflect back on your attitude today and realise how petty you were to deny those people a simply sorry for the horror of having their families torn asunder.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:59pm

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:55pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:09am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Why wouldn't you have sat there. Does your hatred really run that deep?

No, I just don't believe that the 'stolen' generation was necessarily a bad thing, nor am I sorry for something that I didn't do.

No, I am not a parent, I am only 23. The whole fact is that many Aboriginal children were being neglected, and were better off without their birth parents.

What's the bet that you are some trendy living somewhere like Marrickville or Richmond?

I care very much about the well-being of children, and the fact is that many of the children that were 'stolen' actually had better lives than they otherwise would have. Of course not all did, and I don't deny that many were mistreated at the hands of white people, but I am not racist, just someone who observes the facts from both ends, and am not going to go on a guilt trip about something that happened 200 years ago.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by John Smith on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:49pm

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:59pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:55pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:09am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Why wouldn't you have sat there. Does your hatred really run that deep?

No, I just don't believe that the 'stolen' generation was necessarily a bad thing, nor am I sorry for something that I didn't do.

No, I am not a parent, I am only 23. The whole fact is that many Aboriginal children were being neglected, and were better off without their birth parents.

The kids were taken for a variety of reasons, not all because they were abused, some where taken because they wanted to breed out the full blooded abos by mixing them with white people ....

maybe you shouldn't comment on things that are beyond you , proving your stupidity beyond a doubt will do you no good in the long term.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 11:29pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:49pm:

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:59pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 8:34pm:

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 4:55pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:09am:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Why wouldn't you have sat there. Does your hatred really run that deep?

No, I just don't believe that the 'stolen' generation was necessarily a bad thing, nor am I sorry for something that I didn't do.

No, I am not a parent, I am only 23. The whole fact is that many Aboriginal children were being neglected, and were better off without their birth parents.

Note that I said 'some'.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by John Smith on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 11:45pm

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 11:29pm:

Note that I said 'some'.

did you?

you said many Mattty ... and that doesn't take away from the fact that she still should have sat down, if not for those taken from abusive families (no evidence of such was ever presented to anyone either during or after the fact) then for those that were taken out for no other reason other than that they were Abbo's. If you acknowledge that only 'some' were from abusive families, don't the others deserve an apology?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by True Colours on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 12:26am

Mirabella wins the nasty prize

;D ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2qGagGuNl8

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by True Colours on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 12:32am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Vno0JUjmE

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by ImSpartacus2 on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 8:07am

matty wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:59pm:

It's no good telling us how much you care about children. Its like Google saying "Your privacy is important to us" If you truly care and are not a racist (at 23 for God's sake) read Justice Wilsons report and read what tragedy befell these people. Your a kid. Its too early for you to be a racist bigot. Since you acknowledge that "many" were in fact mistreated, you still couldn't have found it in your heart to express sorrow for what had occurred? It seems such a little thing to do (so little skin off your nose) one cant help but see the racist in you. And your a child when it comes down to it. Terrible, honestly.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Bam on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 7:32pm

550 votes to count, still 387 votes behind and the postals have only gone 57% to her.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by alevine on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 7:33pm

Bam wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 7:32pm:

550 votes to count, still 387 votes behind and the postals have only gone 57% to her.

Oh trust her to drag it out!!! Just concede already!

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by True Colours on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 8:16pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 7:33pm:

Bam wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 7:32pm:

550 votes to count, still 387 votes behind and the postals have only gone 57% to her.

Oh trust her to drag it out!!! Just concede already!

Mirabella is very unlikely to win, but she probably hopes to get close enough to force a recount. If she can get the difference down to less than 100 votes, the AEC will recount all the votes in the electorate.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Peter Freedman on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 8:43pm

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

Maybe the thugs she stationed at the school decided to up the ante.

She didn't sit in Parliament because she said that were no official "stolen" children, IIRC.

If I were a politician at the time, there's no way that I would have sat in there either.

Why wouldn't you have sat there. Does your hatred really run that deep?

No, I just don't believe that the 'stolen' generation was necessarily a bad thing, nor am I sorry for something that I didn't do.

So if a mate's wife died you wouldn't say sorry because you didn't kill her?

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by True Colours on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 9:56pm

What would a twit think?

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

I just don't believe that the 'stolen' generation was necessarily a bad thing...

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by John Smith on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 11:34pm

True Colours wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 9:56pm:

What would a twit think?

matty wrote on Sep 11^th, 2013 at 10:46pm:

I just don't believe that the 'stolen' generation was necessarily a bad thing...

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Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:20pm

Anyone else find it amusing that 2 1/2 years ago she stood so proudly under a sign that said "ditch the witch" and at the next election her electorate did.

Karma is a bitch.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:27pm

Verge wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Anyone else find it amusing that 2 1/2 years ago she stood so proudly under a sign that said "ditch the witch" and at the next election her electorate did.

Karma is a bitch.

No, her electorate didn't, and neither did the rest of Australia. Kevin Rudd and the faceless men denied us that, AO instead we turfed out him.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by bigvicfella on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:29pm

matty wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Anyone else find it amusing that 2 1/2 years ago she stood so proudly under a sign that said "ditch the witch" and at the next election her electorate did.

Karma is a bitch.

No, her electorate didn't, and neither did the rest of Australia. Kevin Rudd and the faceless men denied us that, AO instead we turfed out him.

That's OK _ I am sure Sophie will get a plum diplomatic posting.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:32pm

matty wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Anyone else find it amusing that 2 1/2 years ago she stood so proudly under a sign that said "ditch the witch" and at the next election her electorate did.

Karma is a bitch.

No, her electorate didn't, and neither did the rest of Australia. Kevin Rudd and the faceless men denied us that, AO instead we turfed out him.

Yes they did, Indi ditched the witch.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by matty on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:35pm

Verge wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:32pm:

matty wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Anyone else find it amusing that 2 1/2 years ago she stood so proudly under a sign that said "ditch the witch" and at the next election her electorate did.

Karma is a bitch.

No, her electorate didn't, and neither did the rest of Australia. Kevin Rudd and the faceless men denied us that, AO instead we turfed out him.

Yes they did, Indi ditched the witch.

No Verge, do keep up - Gillard was knifed by the faceless men, and then resigned.

Title: Re: Won't be sad to see her lose
Post by Verge on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:48pm

matty wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:35pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:32pm:

matty wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 12:20pm:

Anyone else find it amusing that 2 1/2 years ago she stood so proudly under a sign that said "ditch the witch" and at the next election her electorate did.

Karma is a bitch.

No, her electorate didn't, and neither did the rest of Australia. Kevin Rudd and the faceless men denied us that, AO instead we turfed out him.

Yes they did, Indi ditched the witch.

No Verge, do keep up - Gillard was knifed by the faceless men, and then resigned.

Nice try Matty, but the one you hold so dear, Ms Sophie, was given her marching orders in what was described as a maverick result.

Gillard after losing a party ballot, walked out of Canberra on her own terms. Sophie got told to leave by the people she was supposed to represent.

Its gotta hurt that Indi did ditch the witch.

Even though she will have plenty of spare time, Sophie wont be interested in you matty, you are 70 years to young and dont have an inheritance value of a couple of Mill.