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That's a staggering statistic.

It's an argument for why we should avoid becoming Asianised.

the Aisa pacific region is not "just to our north" Herbert. It includes around 50 countries as well   as Australia and New Zealand.

ian wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:23am:

the Aisa pacific region is not "just to our north" Herbert. It includes around 50 countries as well   as Australia and New Zealand.

Did you look that up on Wiki?

Wiki doesn't have a clue ... They think the countries of South America are part of Asia.


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The term may also include Russia (on the North Pacific) and countries in the Americas which are on the coast of the Eastern Pacific Ocean; the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, for example, includes Canada, Chile, Russia, Mexico, Peru, and the United States.

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Trust me, Australia is not an Asian country.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

Source That's a staggering statistic. It's an argument for why we should avoid becoming Asianised.

Asianized? The report's findings are about developing countries. There was no mention on Lateline of Japan, for example, or Korea, Singapore, or other developed Asia/Pacific countries.

Women in Papua New Guinea were found to be at greatest risk. "More than 80 per cent of men in Bougainville said they had hurt or sexually violated their partners or a stranger.".

This is a very interesting topic, Herbie, and I'm glad you've raised it. It's also about attitudes in developing countries to rape/sexual assault. Different countries and cultures have such different acceptance of rape/sexual assault in their communities. How can you mix different cultures from Bougainville to Sri Lanka in the 1 in 4 men statistic?

It sounds like you're using this report as a justification to stop Asian immigration. The report, however, is more likely to have its origins as a justification for more aid to women's NGOs in the developing world.

Is this what you'd like to see too, Herbie?

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:35am:

Trust me, Australia is not an Asian country.

That's right, Herbie. Australia is part of Europe.

Karnal wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 12:57pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12th, 2013 at 10:35am: Trust me, Australia is not an Asian country. That's right, Herbie. Australia is part of Europe.

Precisely. Well spotted.

That's why Australia is referred to as the 'antipodes'.

Enjoy

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2013 at 10:35am:

ian wrote on Sep 12th, 2013 at 9:23am: the Aisa pacific region is not "just to our north" Herbert. It includes around 50 countries as well   as Australia and New Zealand. Did you look that up on Wiki? Wiki doesn't have a clue ... They think the countries of South America are part of Asia. Quote: The term may also include Russia (on the North Pacific) and countries in the Americas which are on the coast of the Eastern Pacific Ocean; the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, for example, includes Canada, Chile, Russia, Mexico, Peru, and the United States. Wiki Trust me, Australia is not an Asian country.

The term was Asian Pacific, not Asian.
Pardon me if I dont trust you but instead rely on well known established geographical fact and terminology.

We are a European country situated in the southern hemisphere very much as Israel is a European country incongruously situated in the Middle East.

We are not a part of Asia by any stretch of the imagination.

Rampant rape seems to be a stereo-type among the aboriginal peoples of the Asia-Pacific region.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 5:05pm:

We are a European country situated in the southern hemisphere very much as Israel is a European country incongruously situated in the Middle East. We are not a part of Asia by any stretch of the imagination. Rampant rape seems to be a stereo-type among the aboriginal peoples of the Asia-Pacific region.

Do you include those European Pacific nations with the Union Jack on their flags and Lizzie as their queen, Herbie?

Please explain.

Herbie, it would seem that many of these jiggaboos also have monarchs and westminster parliamentary systems and European political traditions and even flags. What do you think is the cause of such high sexual assault figures?

Also, and I think this is really important, what assumptions and criteria do you think the researchers used?

In the developed world, there's a popular statistic: 1 in 4 women have been sexually abused. I've often asked what the criteria for sexual abuse was in this common statistic. Does it, for example, include sexual harassment, which can also be included as a form of sexual abuse? I've never received an answer to this.

I doubt very much that 1 in 4 Australian women have been physically sexually abused or raped, but what do I know?

What do you know about the study you're discussing? Do you have a link?

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 5:05pm:

We are a European country situated in the southern hemisphere very much as Israel is a European country incongruously situated in the Middle East.

I wouldn't call Israel a European country. They hate white people about as much as the hate Middle Eastern people. In fact, they could probably tolerate Middle Eastern people a little more.

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 13th, 2013 at 5:05pm: We are a European country situated in the southern hemisphere very much as Israel is a European country incongruously situated in the Middle East. I wouldn't call Israel a European country. They hate white people about as much as the hate Middle Eastern people. In fact, they could probably tolerate Middle Eastern people a little more.

True. It's telling that the official language of Israel is Hebrew, a Semitic language as opposed to the European Yiddish.

Besides, the occupants of Israel come from everywhere - there are plenty of American Israelis, quite a few Russians, and even some Ethiopians.

From what I can tell, Herbie's using Israel's level of development to describe it as European. I wonder if Herbie thinks Dubai in the UAE is European, or Singapore - both rich, developed, international trading cities.

The common denominator in all these countries is wealth - the phenomenon the study seems to be describing. Rich countries that can afford decent education and legal systems have less rape and sexual assault. Poor countries that can't end up in studies like this.

Sexual assault is not particular to Asian countries, it's prevalent everywhere. The only thing that stops it is the economic empowerment of women - something Herbie, if I'm not mistaken, is not too keen to discuss.