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Title: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by MOTR on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:30am
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/tracking-the-tony-abbott-governments-promises-20130914-2tria.html
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So he proudly begins his government with one of the greatest acts of bastardry this country has seen. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by Spot of Borg on Sep 16th, 2013 at 5:50am
Its only the beginning . . . . . .
SOB |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by skippy. on Sep 16th, 2013 at 6:28am MOTR wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:30am:
Now that phony is in power our electricity bills will drop by over a thousand dollars a month, won't they? |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by True Blue... on Sep 16th, 2013 at 6:44am
he's doing the ground work already for his promises as he has said...
it'll take 12 months to come through and your electricity bills should drop 9% pa... |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by adelcrow on Sep 16th, 2013 at 7:19am True Blue... wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 6:44am:
Bet ya household bills continue to rise under federal and state coalition govts over the next 12 mths - three yrs |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by cods on Sep 16th, 2013 at 7:32am MOTR wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:30am:
what time is your boat leaving MOTR...??? theres a few sore losers on here you can take with you... dont forget he went to the election on his CARBON TAX policy a bit more than can be said for SOME :D and he WON SOUNDLY..so suck it up |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by cods on Sep 16th, 2013 at 7:33am adelcrow wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 7:19am:
UPUPUPUPUP and UP... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by Bam on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:42am True Blue... wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 6:44am:
If they do, energy bills will still be some 30% to 40% more expensive than they were five years ago. Given that other factors have caused energy prices to increase by 10% or so a year in the past five years, I doubt that energy prices will decrease noticeably if the carbon price is repealed. If that happens - which is likely - only then the Australian public will realise they've been sold a lie. Further to this lie is the farcical "direct action plan" that will cost as much but be far less transparent in how much it costs the Australian people. The former ALP Government were quite clear with the 9% cost of the carbon price on energy bills. Will Abbott come clean and tell the Australian people exactly how much his globally untried and controversial "direct action plan" will cost them on average? Unlikely. I'm sure the new Opposition will not be as reticent. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by longweekend58 on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:45am MOTR wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:30am:
greatest???? little hysterical maybe? |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by John Smith on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:48am True Blue... wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 6:44am:
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Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by Bam on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:53am cods wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 7:32am:
Did the Reich suck it up when they lost in 2007? 2010? How many different ways did the Reich misogynists come up with for KILLING Gillard? Abbott and his whole front bench are walking around with targets on their foreheads. Abbott should be put in a chaff bag and dumped at sea.... How long did the Reich astroturfers go around with the "DITCH THE B1TCH" signs? How long did the Reich go around with the "JULIAR" crap? Gillard's been out of office for a few months now, and they're still at it. Now you want left-leaning members of Australian society to "suck it up"? That is not likely so get used to it. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by longweekend58 on Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:58am Bam wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:53am:
what a pitiful childish post. You seem to think that the Opposition shouldn't oppose. You seem to think (wrongly) that Gillards position as PM was not highly compromised since she had less votes and less seats than the opposition. You seem to live under this misapprehension that politics is not an adversarial endeavour. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by cods on Sep 16th, 2013 at 10:03am Bam wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:53am:
hahahahahahaha you claim the Libs are BORN TO RULE>.. now look who thinks they are BORN TO RULE>> ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D so funny...now they are using NAZI slogans to win points......SORE LOSERS... ditch the witch was a plant from GETUP |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by cods on Sep 16th, 2013 at 10:05am longweekend58 wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:58am:
maybe instead of SORE LOSER PARTY.. the DISTRAUGHT PARTY would fit better.. even producing hate abbott t/shirts.....OMG.. did HITLER STOOP TO THAT?????.. I dont think so.. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by Verge on Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:28pm
I would like to see a website set up that has all his election promises
eg - Scrap the Carbon tax - Date of implementation and two criterias of measurement, if it is delievered, and if it was delivered but not on time. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by dsmithy70 on Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:38pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:58am:
And yet now Labor are in opposition they have to agree with Abbott. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by alevine on Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:44pm True Blue... wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 6:44am:
And if it doesn't will he do a hoola dance for me? |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by alevine on Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:45pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:38pm:
Ah but that's different because Labor only had a mandate for workchoices in 2007 but Tony has a mandate for ALL his policies now. ;) |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by Dnarever on Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:58pm cods wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 10:03am:
But Putting Rudd in a Nazi uniform on the telegraphs front page is OK though ? |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by alevine on Sep 16th, 2013 at 2:32pm Verge wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:28pm:
Yep I had the same idea. Just need to get around to doing it, and kicking work to get the time to Maintain it :(. But it would be fantastic to keep the man who thinks circumstances changing is not reason to break commitments to account, |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by bigvicfella on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:17pm
tracking Tony's promises is easy. Just go to the ALP Website and tick em off as he implements them
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Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by alevine on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:20pm Vic wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:17pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by longweekend58 on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:43pm Verge wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:28pm:
that would be reasonable altho how about we back-ate it to 2007 so we have some comparison? Seriously, I think a rigorously unbiased site for that would be of value. alas, it is more likely to be done by the ALP or IA or someone useless like that. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by longweekend58 on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:44pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 12:38pm:
only on the carbon tax. it was the policy the people rejected and THAT is why they should support its repeal just as the Libs supported the repeal of WorkChoices. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by alevine on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
Was there a separate ballot that I wasn't aware of, where I had to stipulate which policy I most reject? |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by PZ547 on Sep 16th, 2013 at 4:18pm
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. Blah blah blah blah Library closing soon. No more free computers. Then you lot can go dumpster diving |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by skippy. on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:20pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:58am:
And....save. ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by Dnarever on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:27pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
The Liberals didn't support the repeal of workchoices and believe it or not the 2007 election was about workchoices where the 2013 election was not about the carbon price. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by Aussie on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:36pm skippy. wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:20pm:
I know you have already suggested another Thread be stickied skippy.....but I'd love this one to be as well. There are lots of promises he made which ought be preserved here. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by MOTR on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:48pm cods wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 7:32am:
I'm not going anywhere, cods. You win some, you lose some, but you never give up fighting for what is right. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by MOTR on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:54pm
The coalition voted down work choices because they didn't want to be wedded to such an unpopular policy. Labor won't vote down the ETS because they don't want to be wedded to such an act of bastardry.
This act of economic and environmental vandalism will destroy the Liberal party. When the reality of global warming hits, those responsible for delaying action will be held accountable by the public. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by longweekend58 on Sep 17th, 2013 at 10:04am Dnarever wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:27pm:
as usual, you are wrong. the lib senators voted for the repeal without which it would have failed. and the 2013 WAS about the CT. but ultimately, losers, the CT will be repealed with or without your votes. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by perceptions_now on Sep 17th, 2013 at 12:14pm perceptions_now wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 12:12am:
I have re-posted the above, because it is relevant to this thread. That said, I was a little short on the FUll list of the Coalitions "Contract" with Australia, which according to them is actually - 1) A STRONGER 5 Pillar Economy 2) Two Million new jobs 3) Scrap the Carbon Tax 4) End the waste 5) Reduce Bottlenecks on Roads 6) Give the Community control - over Education & Health Services 7) Stop the Boats In reality, for many reasons, there is no chance they will succeed with numbers 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 & 7 of that "Contract" and neither would Labor, IF they had retained power! Number 3 is not completely impossible, although it may be more difficult than the Liberals think & could put the Public through the purgatory of another election in the not too distant future. That said, even if it is scrapped, it will do very little to improve our situation. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by longweekend58 on Sep 17th, 2013 at 2:17pm MOTR wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 8:54pm:
or... when NONE of the hysterical predictions eventuate - and none have even come close yet - there will be blood and anger at the clowns and fools that promoted this nonsense. And it will keep Labor out of power for a generation. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by Bam on Sep 17th, 2013 at 6:45pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 9:58am:
Showing you some facts is not childish. Unless you have a problem with some of the examples, ALL of which are based on actual Reich actions against Gillard. Don't like them being recast against Abbott instead just to make a point? Tough. Abbott himself did the "targets on foreheads" crap and Alan Jones did chaff bags, several times. You still have a problem with it? Tell it to the ones that originated this kind of rubbish. Quote:
False. You're the one that thinks this, not me, considering the crap you've been spewing about mandates. Quote:
How can you be so clueless about the workings of a Westminster parliament to post crap like this? Gillard was Prime Minister because she had the confidence of the House. I doubt you would understand what this means even if someone explained it to you 100 times. I'm pretty sure others have already. Quote:
Again, no. How do you manage to come up with this rubbish from what I posted above? |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by adelcrow on Sep 17th, 2013 at 6:51pm Bam wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 6:45pm:
False. You're the one that thinks this, not me, considering the crap you've been spewing about mandates. Quote:
How can you be so clueless about the workings of a Westminster parliament to post crap like this? Gillard was Prime Minister because she had the confidence of the House. I doubt you would understand what this means even if someone explained it to you 100 times. I'm pretty sure others have already. Quote:
Again, no. How do you manage to come up with this rubbish from what I posted above? [/quote] Over the past week Longy has realised that he voted for an incompetent, insane hard liner and he's now in panic mode :D |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by Bam on Sep 17th, 2013 at 7:10pm
I'll comment on your list of Coalition "policies".
perceptions_now wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 12:14pm:
Meaningless waffle without a more detailed explanation. "5 pillar economy" is suspiciously like one of the Coalition's catch phrases that they often use. Quote:
How many of them will be permanent full-time jobs? Not many. How long will this take? A decade or more, by which time Abbott will be out of office. Quote:
An aspiration they may achieve but it will expose their lies. Quote:
This won't happen. This is just a three-word slogan without a real plan. They will create their own waste. "Direct action". "Women of calibre". Quote:
They won't achieve this, and they are not investing in public transport. Already they have cancelled investments in public transport for no good reason. Expect more crowded trains. Quote:
An idea worth debating rather than being imposed by fiat. Quote:
Won't happen. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by red baron on Sep 17th, 2013 at 7:15pm
What a great idea. Just the saving on the hot air ,that this bunch of b.s. artists generate, is enough reward in itself. Just another bureaucratic monolith that is bloody useless. Good riddance to a burden on the taxpayer. :)
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Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by longweekend58 on Sep 18th, 2013 at 8:33am Bam wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 6:45pm:
False. You're the one that thinks this, not me, considering the crap you've been spewing about mandates. Quote:
How can you be so clueless about the workings of a Westminster parliament to post crap like this? Gillard was Prime Minister because she had the confidence of the House. I doubt you would understand what this means even if someone explained it to you 100 times. I'm pretty sure others have already. Quote:
Again, no. How do you manage to come up with this rubbish from what I posted above? [/quote] and you except to be taken seriously using term like Reich??? you are a child who has lost and it throwing a tantrum. Grow up and stop being an infant who has lost their dummy, If you want some respect you could try giving a little of it yourself. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by chicken_lipsforme on Sep 18th, 2013 at 6:18pm MOTR wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 3:30am:
It's time to grab your hanky, dry your eyes, and finally accept Labor's worst defeat in 100 years. And accept Abbotts right to carry out the policies he was elected to do by the vast majority of the electorate. It's time to let it go. |
Title: Re: Tracking Tony's promises. Post by John Smith on Sep 18th, 2013 at 10:28pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18th, 2013 at 8:33am:
that was your best comeback??? ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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