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Message started by salad in on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:27pm

Title: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by salad in on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:27pm

Quote:
Shorten flags indigenous ALP quotas

Labor leadership aspirant Bill Shorten has flagged changing the party's rules to set a quota for indigenous candidates.

The ALP has a 40 per cent quota for female candidates, but has no such aim in terms of Aboriginal and Torres Strait islanders.

Mr Shorten told a Per Capita forum in Melbourne on Wednesday the party should think 'freely and openly' as it considers new ideas to revitalise after the September 7 election loss.

'(We should) consider quotas for sections of the community that are under represented in our state and federal parliaments,' Mr Shorten said.

'And I especially think here of Aboriginal people and Torres Strait islanders.'

Mr Shorten said the party also needed to boost its effort to ensure women make up 40 per cent of all candidates, through the involvement of women on selection panels, and better mentoring.

'A rule is not a rule unless the spirit is supported,' he said.

Mr Shorten is taking on former deputy prime minister Anthony Albanese in a leadership ballot involving the caucus and grassroots members. The result of the ballot will be known on October 13.

The right faction powerbroker said the era of 'small cabals of people making decisions' should come to an end.

He recommended more community-based preselections for candidates, a dropping of the two-year membership requirement to vote in internal elections and the use of technology such as Skype to allow people to attend branch meetings.

Mr Shorten said the election result had been 'sobering news', but the party was moving forward.

'Labor after the election hasn't crumpled into a heap,' he said.

'Instead we are saying we can do this, we are proud of who we are ... and we can learn from our mistakes.

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=909269


Muslims, Asians, Bikies and other groups have been excluded again. Well done ALP: the enlightened and progressive party. The ALP is the party of ideas.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by salad in on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:32pm
Sorry, I forgot to add gays to the list of groups excluded.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by adelcrow on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:37pm
  ;D The Libs have been caught out with yet another lie  ;D

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by FriYAY on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:41pm

adelcrow wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:37pm:
  ;D The Libs have been caught out with yet another lie  ;D



Not as many as you have.

2 loads of crap in one day.

Your dam embarrassing.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by Sprintcyclist on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:51pm

and what about the quota for female left handed bass players with a congenital defect ?

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by cods on Sep 25th, 2013 at 5:26pm
I like this bit..





salad in wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:27pm:
'Instead we are saying we can do this, we are proud of who we are ... and we can learn from our mistakes.




what on earth does Bill mean.. our mistakes>.. THEY DIDNT MAKE ANY!!!

isnt that what the sore losers party keep telling us?..


LEARN BY OUR MISTAKES..

lefties suck it up.. words from Bill himself.. ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by cods on Sep 25th, 2013 at 5:27pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:51pm:
and what about the quota for female left handed bass players with a congenital defect ?




as long as they dont have sex appeal or brains...big bums are ok though. ;) ;)

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 25th, 2013 at 5:31pm

salad in wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Quote:
Shorten flags indigenous ALP quotas

Labor leadership aspirant Bill Shorten has flagged changing the party's rules to set a quota for indigenous candidates.

The ALP has a 40 per cent quota for female candidates, but has no such aim in terms of Aboriginal and Torres Strait islanders.

Mr Shorten told a Per Capita forum in Melbourne on Wednesday the party should think 'freely and openly' as it considers new ideas to revitalise after the September 7 election loss.

'(We should) consider quotas for sections of the community that are under represented in our state and federal parliaments,' Mr Shorten said.

'And I especially think here of Aboriginal people and Torres Strait islanders.'

Mr Shorten said the party also needed to boost its effort to ensure women make up 40 per cent of all candidates, through the involvement of women on selection panels, and better mentoring.

'A rule is not a rule unless the spirit is supported,' he said.

Mr Shorten is taking on former deputy prime minister Anthony Albanese in a leadership ballot involving the caucus and grassroots members. The result of the ballot will be known on October 13.

The right faction powerbroker said the era of 'small cabals of people making decisions' should come to an end.

He recommended more community-based preselections for candidates, a dropping of the two-year membership requirement to vote in internal elections and the use of technology such as Skype to allow people to attend branch meetings.

Mr Shorten said the election result had been 'sobering news', but the party was moving forward.

'Labor after the election hasn't crumpled into a heap,' he said.

'Instead we are saying we can do this, we are proud of who we are ... and we can learn from our mistakes.

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=909269


Muslims, Asians, Bikies and other groups have been excluded again. Well done ALP: the enlightened and progressive party. The ALP is the party of ideas.



where is the gay/lesbian quote?  where is the Christian quota?  where is the (ahem!) MALE quota...

Id be a lot happier if the quota was for COMPETENCE rather than these other irrelevant traits.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by cods on Sep 25th, 2013 at 5:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 5:31pm:

salad in wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Quote:
Shorten flags indigenous ALP quotas

Labor leadership aspirant Bill Shorten has flagged changing the party's rules to set a quota for indigenous candidates.

The ALP has a 40 per cent quota for female candidates, but has no such aim in terms of Aboriginal and Torres Strait islanders.

Mr Shorten told a Per Capita forum in Melbourne on Wednesday the party should think 'freely and openly' as it considers new ideas to revitalise after the September 7 election loss.

'(We should) consider quotas for sections of the community that are under represented in our state and federal parliaments,' Mr Shorten said.

'And I especially think here of Aboriginal people and Torres Strait islanders.'

Mr Shorten said the party also needed to boost its effort to ensure women make up 40 per cent of all candidates, through the involvement of women on selection panels, and better mentoring.

'A rule is not a rule unless the spirit is supported,' he said.

Mr Shorten is taking on former deputy prime minister Anthony Albanese in a leadership ballot involving the caucus and grassroots members. The result of the ballot will be known on October 13.

The right faction powerbroker said the era of 'small cabals of people making decisions' should come to an end.

He recommended more community-based preselections for candidates, a dropping of the two-year membership requirement to vote in internal elections and the use of technology such as Skype to allow people to attend branch meetings.

Mr Shorten said the election result had been 'sobering news', but the party was moving forward.

'Labor after the election hasn't crumpled into a heap,' he said.

'Instead we are saying we can do this, we are proud of who we are ... and we can learn from our mistakes.

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=909269


Muslims, Asians, Bikies and other groups have been excluded again. Well done ALP: the enlightened and progressive party. The ALP is the party of ideas.



where is the gay/lesbian quote?  where is the Christian quota?  where is the (ahem!) MALE quota...

Id be a lot happier if the quota was for COMPETENCE rather than these other irrelevant traits.




isnt it a form of reverse apartheid???.

or worse... TOKENISM.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by Innocent bystander on Sep 25th, 2013 at 5:36pm
The ALP's retard quota is working well, two retarded PM's now, well done affirmative action ALP

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by cods on Sep 25th, 2013 at 6:01pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 5:36pm:
The ALP's retard quota is working well, two retarded PM's now, well done affirmative action ALP



did you know gillard is penning her memoir.. do you think the krudds ears are burning..?

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by Innocent bystander on Sep 25th, 2013 at 6:03pm

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 5:36pm:
The ALP's retard quota is working well, two retarded PM's now, well done affirmative action ALP



did you know gillard is penning her memoir.. do you think the krudds ears are burning..?



She should get it printed on toilet paper, be all its good for.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by cods on Sep 25th, 2013 at 6:14pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 6:03pm:

cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 5:36pm:
The ALP's retard quota is working well, two retarded PM's now, well done affirmative action ALP



did you know gillard is penning her memoir.. do you think the krudds ears are burning..?



She should get it printed on toilet paper, be all its good for.




does that mean yoiu wont be rushing in to buy a copy??... shame.. I must admit I have the Latham Diaries its still good for a laugh...and as true today as ever it was by the sound of this mob..lol..

I am hoping it wont be all touchy feely.. but I am thinking the ALP will probably pay her a lot to not say a lot.. ::)

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by salad in on Sep 25th, 2013 at 8:22pm
In Shorten the ALP has come up with another objectional pharisaic unflushable turd.  The ALP is tralatitious in nature which in this case is nothing to be proud of. The ALP is incapable of reform as long as it continues its charade of claiming to be the only occupant of the high moral ground. Does anyone remember this:


Quote:
Racial discrimination is when a person is treated less favourably than another person in a similar situation because of their race, colour, descent, national or ethnic origin or immigrant status.
http://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/know-your-rights-racial-discrimination-and-vilification


The ALP: the enlightened and progressive party – BULLSH!T.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by The Thinking Mans Grappler on Sep 25th, 2013 at 9:52pm
.. and the pensioners, the blind the halt and the lame, the insane, the Buddhists, Maori ex-patriates and Pacific Islanders, Pakeha ex-patriates, Rhodesian ex-patriates etc.... the unemployed need representation somewhere somehow.... before they fade into dust....

You know (*pulls up chair for fireside chat)....I think there are far greater issues affecting our country at this time than quota representation.

We, the ordinary people, have had a hell of a time at the hands of various of the Fifty Shades of Grey Government we've endured for the past thirty years or so - each of which has set in place a multitude of unpopular and often seriously disadvantaging policies and laws and such.

I seriously think the time is long overdue for a full revamp of such things as unemployment and income earned on the side, with a withdrawal of the very stupid vicious punishment that creates a host of New Criminals.. who oddly enough - then find it hard to get work  (hmmm)... how about a more lenient approach to a few bucks that the public servants and politicians who run the jihad against the 'low class' unemployed wouldn't get out of bed for?

We are enduring the Unemployment We Had To Have to suit technology and the whims of management and government, including such things as their never-ending 'gender equality' campaigns that continue to rip society apart and advantage some at the cost of the many, the focus on some 'right' of business to treat workers as serfs, and so forth, and governments  and their agencies, including the very courts sworn to uphold Right and not government policy, operating  out there without any civilised constraint, and breaking the Law time after time themselves in doing so.

What we need is for a RESPONSIBLE government to go back over those thirty years or so and make amends.

I suggest that we raise the drink driving level to 0.08 for a start - how many accidents actually occur at 0.05?  The ones you hear about are all at princely (or princessly) figures of .213, or .175 and so on, and surely the Guv doesn't NEED to continue with the lowest PCA in the world as a revenue gatherer, criminaliser and robber of incomes, and remover of rights and social equity from individuals?

What about the mandatory payment of welfare recipients of a minimum child support rate?  Now how stupid is a government to take from the poorest to give to some government body - that then does NOT, in many cases, forward that money on to the alleged recipient?  Why not cut all the bullshit and just put both on an adequate social security net?  After all, it is government's polices of ripping families apart and creating The Unemployment We Had To Have that put them there....

I'd suggest minimum wage at least for the dole and pensions, and the right to earn up to - say the equivalent of a politician's found money in Canberra - what - about $300 a day tax free?  Yeah - that sounds fair, but include dole and pension to make that total, OK?  Earn up to $1500 a week before you lose any dole or pension - as back pay for being a victim of the aforementioned Unemployment We Had To Have... that'd help cover the times of low to no incomes for a while... and produce equality....

Don't forget the average weekly earnings for Paid Parental Leave instead of goodies for the well-heeled at 50% of income not shared by their poorer bros and sis.  Average Weekly Earning for six months would do the unemployed single mum a world of good and certainly would work better towards gender and social equality.

As for boat people - bring em all I say!  Let's build nice resorts they can share with Japanese tourists, and we'll employ locals to cater to their needs.  That would keep the money inside Australia AND the economy, would salve our consciences, and would make it a reasonable deal to WANT to be an Australian - at least before the Reverse Tide of Aussies leaving the joint starts for real.  I mean - we can still send the undesirables back to Afghanistan for the New Taliban to kill off when they resume power.

We can always use the resorts later for more tourists and so forth or for retirement villages....

What we need here is FEWER prisons, not more, and we should be deporting all undesirables TO Afghanistan under a New Colonisation Scheme, as occurred with the founding of Australia.  Within a few years the place'd be a Christian paradise and worthy of tourism... we could send some of the more rapacious parking lot companies and council parking inspectors there to pave the place over and make it civilised with forest of parking meters.

Yes, I think there are many more important issues than Labor trying to suck up votes by yet more policies of exclusion - you know - oddly - when you mandate a fixed quota you EXCLUDE others of real merit......and there is no end to it... ever!

More next time on President Grappler's Fireside Chats....  good night and god bless you all, and god bless Australia - we need it!

:D

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by The Thinking Mans Grappler on Sep 25th, 2013 at 10:12pm
[/quote]

did you know gillard is penning her memoir.. do you think the krudds ears are burning..?[/quote]

Will she please just go quietly into her swell-heeled retirement and STFU for a change?  Such memoirs should be penned at Long Bay.... paradise with an ocean view, clean air... sunshine.... friendly guards....  (that right?)   ;D

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by Peter Freedman on Sep 25th, 2013 at 10:30pm
The Libs have their own quota - 90% white males in dark suits and blue ties.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by salad in on Sep 26th, 2013 at 6:56am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 9:52pm:
.. and the pensioners, the blind the halt and the lame, the insane, the Buddhists....

:D


Verily it is written brother Grappler.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by Dnarever on Sep 26th, 2013 at 7:11am

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 10:30pm:
The Libs have their own quota - 90% white males in dark suits and blue ties.


They actually achieve higher than 90% unless someone lost their tie.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by True Blue... on Sep 26th, 2013 at 7:25am
you can just see whats going to happen next election...

it wont be run on the economy or budgeting...

shorten will have a sex change and Roll our Gillards sexist card... knowing this doesn't work too well, he'll darken his skin and also play the race card...

Labor...  ::)

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by miketrees on Sep 26th, 2013 at 7:51am
How quickly we all forget.

We don't have to worry about what Labor says it will do.

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 26th, 2013 at 6:04pm

miketrees wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 7:51am:
How quickly we all forget.

We don't have to worry about what Labor says it will do.


so true.  Labor always says one thing and does another!

Title: Re: ALP to pursue quota system.
Post by The Thinking Mans Grappler on Sep 26th, 2013 at 6:23pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 25th, 2013 at 10:30pm:
The Libs have their own quota - 90% white males in dark suits and blue ties.



I'd be happy to see either side doff their silk suits and actually do something that relates to the ordinary person... I'm sick of right and left agendas while the country goes down the tubes, with dreadful unemployment and all the rising social divides and issues between people and groups.

>:(

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