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Message started by thelastnail on Sep 26th, 2013 at 12:39pm

Title: US Air Force successfully flies unmanned F-16
Post by thelastnail on Sep 26th, 2013 at 12:39pm
Look no hands !!

US Air Force successfully flies unmanned F-16, says robotic planes will only be used as 'target practice'




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The US Air Force has managed to successfully fly a F-16 fighter jet without a pilot on board in the latest example of the military's increasing reliance on drones.


The robotic F-16 flew for 55 minutes with an empty cockpit from a base in Florida last week, as part of a program that will see the converted fighter jet used as a target for pilots in training.

"It was really amazing to see an F-16 take off with nobody in it," said Michelle Shelhamer from Boeing, which has adapted the plane for the US military.

The aircraft is one of six "retired" F-16 jets that will be used as aerial targets for fighter pilots training for air-to-air combat, she said.

"They're basically built to be shot down," she said.

"It's full-scale, real world, real life, combat training - not with a simulator or anything else."

During the flight out of Tyndall Air Force base in Florida, the F-16 reached an altitude of nearly 12,200 metres and flew at supersonic speeds over Mach 1, Ms Shelhamer said.

There was no pilot on board to experience gravitational forces as the plane performed manoeuvres, including a barrel roll.

The plane was operated by two test pilots from a ground control station and the flight went off without a hitch, officials said.

It was not the first time the Air Force has adapted old fighters as drones for use in air-to-air combat training.

Since 1997, the Pentagon used more than 80 F-4 Phantoms converted into robotic planes for targets.

But the F-16s offered a faster, "more realistic" training target than the slower F-4s, Tyndall spokesman Herman Bell said.
Robotic F-16s will only be used for target practice: US Air Force

The Air Force, however, said the F-16 drones would only be used for target practice and not added to the growing fleet of unmanned aircraft.

Mark Corcoran asks, "what exactly is a drone?" It is a simple question with a highly contentious answer.

"I can tell you that there are no plans to use these aircraft as a combat asset," spokesman Master Sergeant Randy Redman said.

"This is just the next step in the evolution of the training program to ensure that our pilots remain the best in the world."

A leading expert on robotic technology in warfare, Peter Singer, said the conversion of the F-16s did not represent a breakthrough, as F-4s had been adapted in a similar way more than a decade ago.

"It's not fundamentally different than converting past generations of fighters," Mr Singer said.

But the test flight offered a reminder of how robotic technology is spreading rapidly through the US military and other countries' armed forces, he said.

The pilotless F-16 took to the air amid an internal debate inside the Air Force over the future role of drones, with some commanders sceptical of the potential utility of the unmanned planes against adversaries with strong air defences.

Armed drones have become America's weapon of choice in hunting down Al Qaeda militants, after a whole range of unmanned planes and ground robots became common in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for surveillance and defusing homemade bombs.

Sceptics who have claimed drones would never fly at high speed or be able to land on an aircraft carrier have been proven wrong, according to Mr Singer, a fellow at the Brookings Institution think tank.

"The introduction of unmanned systems is as big a game-changer as things like the introduction of the tank, the computer or the aircraft carrier," he said.

Title: Re: US Air Force successfully flies unmanned F-16
Post by Yadda on Sep 26th, 2013 at 12:50pm
thelastnail,

Is the name of the company who have helped the US Air Force develop this system, called Cyberdyne Systems ?

And, are they working on another product/development, called Skynet ?





[just kidding!     ;)    ]



Title: Re: US Air Force successfully flies unmanned F-16
Post by Brian Ross on Sep 26th, 2013 at 8:16pm
Another target drone.  Merely a way to more realistically test missiles and use up old, outmoded aircraft.   

Title: Re: US Air Force successfully flies unmanned F-16
Post by Old Codger on Oct 8th, 2013 at 7:35am
They were doing this in 2004 at Mojave Airport CA  in 2004.

The age of the drone is HERE!


OC

Title: Re: US Air Force successfully flies unmanned F-16
Post by BlueJam on Oct 8th, 2013 at 10:48am
Agree with Brian they were using old F-4 Phantoms prior to old F-16s. Phantoms were used because there were so many airframes available until all suitable were consumed as target drones.

As to using old teen series aircraft as platforms to launch weapons and go into bad guy territory I think that is unlikely - designs such as the X-47B unmanned drone demonstrator recently tested aboard CVN-77 are more likely to continue to evolve and be used for this purpose.

However, I do not think the day of the pilot in the coxpit is over, rather to be more like a combination of long range, stealthy, bombed up drones and manned aircraft.

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