While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader.

How many others here are members of a political party?

C'mon, 'fess up.

I'm a member of the Swagman party.

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Swagman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 2:33pm:

I'm a member of the Swagman party. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

With a quorum of one?

Not me - although my Dad was a rampant Labor man in the 40s 50s etc.   I describe myself as left leaning, but tend to vote for the guy i think will do the best job.

I just left Cairns and voted for good ol Warren Entsch - partly because that bloke really listens to the community.  If I had of voted up here in Darwin, I probably would have voted for the Labor man

The two elections prior to this one I voted for Greg Hunt - in opposition for most of that time - but a good bloke in my electorate.

I can sum by saying their is usually a stand out candidate who will get my vote regardless of major party.  If neck and neck though - I would vote Labor

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 2:38pm:

Swagman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:33pm: I'm a member of the Swagman party. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] With a quorum of one?

Depends on how sober I am...

Well said.

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Matty's in the Dunedin Libs, PF. They ran for the federal seat of Lingiari.

While you might not be able to post on Australian internet sites from New Zealand, you can still run for office.

Thoughts?

I think being a member of the AUstralian Labor party carries less weight than being a member of the NZ Labor party..

at least they dont KILL their leaders over there do they?????
a much more intelligent bunch.. ;) ;)

try to remember pete when you vote for either albo or shorten...its a win for the Libs.. ;D

Used to be a member when I was in australia.

Lindsay Tanner was my local member.


Went to a few meetings.

Handed out how to vote cards in a couple of elections.




Let my membership lapse in early 2000s.

Found the greens echoed more of my beliefs.


Would consider rejoining if I came back to australia and if they had a leader I could proudly support.

Another Keating for example.

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

try to remember pete when you vote for either albo or shorten...its a win for the Libs

Will you be able to vote in the Leadership wrangle Peter?

I would think that it would be for ALP members as at the date the leadership spilled otherwise the ballot could be stacked.

Billyboy might stack the vote with unionists and Albo with Rabbitoe supporters..... ;D
 

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

I think being a member of the AUstralian Labor party carries less weight than being a member of the NZ Labor party.. at least they dont KILL their leaders over there do they????? a much more intelligent bunch.. ;) ;) try to remember pete when you vote for either albo or shorten...its a win for the Libs.. ;D

Well, I certainly carry more weight than when I was a member of the NZ LABOUR Party......and I'll need to check, but I don't think either Rudd or Gillard is dead....

pete what happens if its a DRAW???...will they take it in turns or toss for it.. :D :D

Swagman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:38pm: Swagman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:33pm: I'm a member of the Swagman party. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] With a quorum of one? Depends on how sober I am...

Coalition members are welcome......but they must be female.....that's my affirmative action policy  ;)

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 2:30pm:

While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader. How many others here are members of a political party? C'mon, 'fess up.

Most people wouldn't know, but I am actually a member of the Liberal party.

Swagman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:17pm: try to remember pete when you vote for either albo or shorten...its a win for the Libs Will you be able to vote in the Leadership wrangle Peter? I would think that it would be for ALP members as at the date the leadership spilled otherwise the ballot could be stacked. Billyboy might stack the vote with unionists and Albo with Rabbitoe supporters..... ;D

Yes I will. Rang today, the papers went out on Tuesday so should get mine tomorrow.

Go the Mighty Rabbits!

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:31pm:

pete what happens if its a DRAW???...will they take it in turns or toss for it.. :D :D

It's a toss, I think.

Swagman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

Swagman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:43pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:38pm: Swagman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:33pm: I'm a member of the Swagman party. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] With a quorum of one? Depends on how sober I am... Coalition members are welcome......but they must be female.....that's my affirmative action policy  ;)

what about sex appeal.. or a big bum?? I will not admit which one I have,, ;) ;) ;)..

but I am thinking of joining a group.. I think we all need a tribe of sorts to belong too...we can butt heads to see whos the strongest and therefore the winner...

we can also dominate on the boards with cryptic abuse...

so sell yourself swagman... what are you priorities.?.

non rude ones..

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:39pm:

cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:31pm: pete what happens if its a DRAW???...will they take it in turns or toss for it.. :D :D It's a toss, I think.

a TOSS UP for TOSSERS I like it pete.

Vic wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 2:43pm:

Not me - although my Dad was a rampant Labor man in the 40s 50s etc.   I describe myself as left leaning, but tend to vote for the guy i think will do the best job. I just left Cairns and voted for good ol Warren Entsch - partly because that bloke really listens to the community.  If I had of voted up here in Darwin, I probably would have voted for the Labor man The two elections prior to this one I voted for Greg Hunt - in opposition for most of that time - but a good bloke in my electorate. I can sum by saying their is usually a stand out candidate who will get my vote regardless of major party.  If neck and neck though - I would vote Labor

I voted for Natasha Griggs, the local CLP member. The weird thing is that in both Solomon (Darwin and Palmerston) and Lingiari (the rest of the NT) there were swings against both incumbents, CLP and Labor respectively, but both held on about 51-49.

go the bunnies..

Im a member of the didyoubringthegrogalong party.  I like it because they are a well grounded party whose roots stem back centuries, as it was formed as an official movement by the small but vocal crackatinny tribe in outback Queensland as an answer to finally being heard by the decision makers.  You could call our coming into existence is a bit like the that of the union movement, but without the corruption and better parties.

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:37pm:

Swagman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:27pm: cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:17pm: try to remember pete when you vote for either albo or shorten...its a win for the Libs Will you be able to vote in the Leadership wrangle Peter? I would think that it would be for ALP members as at the date the leadership spilled otherwise the ballot could be stacked. Billyboy might stack the vote with unionists and Albo with Rabbitoe supporters..... ;D   Yes I will. Rang today, the papers went out on Tuesday so should get mine tomorrow. Go the Mighty Rabbits!

I thought that you could only vote if you were a member before the election?

Verge wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:45pm:

Im a member of the didyoubringthegrogalong party.  I like it because they are a well grounded party whose roots stem back centuries, as it was formed as an official movement by the small but vocal crackatinny tribe in outback Queensland as an answer to finally being heard by the decision makers.  You could call our coming into existence is a bit like the that of the union movement, but without the corruption and better parties.

You've obviously never been to a union party........

matty wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:46pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:37pm: Swagman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:27pm: cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:17pm: try to remember pete when you vote for either albo or shorten...its a win for the Libs Will you be able to vote in the Leadership wrangle Peter? I would think that it would be for ALP members as at the date the leadership spilled otherwise the ballot could be stacked. Billyboy might stack the vote with unionists and Albo with Rabbitoe supporters..... ;D   Yes I will. Rang today, the papers went out on Tuesday so should get mine tomorrow. Go the Mighty Rabbits! I thought that you could only vote if you were a member before the election?

I was.

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:53pm:

matty wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:46pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:37pm: Swagman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:27pm: cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:17pm: try to remember pete when you vote for either albo or shorten...its a win for the Libs Will you be able to vote in the Leadership wrangle Peter? I would think that it would be for ALP members as at the date the leadership spilled otherwise the ballot could be stacked. Billyboy might stack the vote with unionists and Albo with Rabbitoe supporters..... ;D   Yes I will. Rang today, the papers went out on Tuesday so should get mine tomorrow. Go the Mighty Rabbits! I thought that you could only vote if you were a member before the election? I was.

The op makes it look as if you just joined.

Verge wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:45pm:

Im a member of the didyoubringthegrogalong party.  I like it because they are a well grounded party whose roots stem back centuries, as it was formed as an official movement by the small but vocal crackatinny tribe in outback Queensland as an answer to finally being heard by the decision makers.  You could call our coming into existence is a bit like the that of the union movement, but without the corruption and better parties.

I thought that you may have joined the I'mafakeconservative party.

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:41pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:39pm: cods wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:31pm: pete what happens if its a DRAW???...will they take it in turns or toss for it.. :D :D It's a toss, I think. a TOSS UP for TOSSERS I like it pete.

And here's me thinking you are a dear sweet old lady.....there's a monster under that benign exterior.

cods wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:42pm:

go the bunnies..

Go the Silvertails

matty wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:33pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:30pm: While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader. How many others here are members of a political party? C'mon, 'fess up. Most people wouldn't know, but I am actually a member of the Liberal party.

So am I...I joined the SA Libs when the moderate Steven Marshall became the leader.
I suggest all South Aussies join so we can get rid of the useless state Labor govt as well as have a say in the party about hardline nutbags like Cory Bernardi.

http://www.stevenmarshall.com.au/

Never have been a member of a political party and I don't intend to join any of them. As I cast my eye over the various parties I feel let down by the quality of those who make it to MP status. I regard them as low life petty criminals.

Take the average misbehaving MP for instance. He gets caught with his fingers in the till and his mates start airbrushing him or her with the usual encomiams. "He made an honest mistake", "the rules regarding T/A are unclear", "he is a very nice person once you get to know him"....all that sort of crap. The bloke is a phuking thief and a low life. Come out and say it rather than try to hide him behind a wall of cheap mitigating circumstances and lame excuses. Those who try to defend his actions are just as vile as the tortfeasor. Say it you bunch of vile turds: the bloke is a thief.

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 2:30pm:

While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader. How many others here are members of a political party? C'mon, 'fess up.

why did you join the ALP?  serious question.

matty wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:33pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:30pm: While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader. How many others here are members of a political party? C'mon, 'fess up. Most people wouldn't know, but I am actually a member of the Liberal party.

That's right, Matty. The Dunedin Branch.

matty wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:59pm:

Verge wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:45pm: Im a member of the didyoubringthegrogalong party.  I like it because they are a well grounded party whose roots stem back centuries, as it was formed as an official movement by the small but vocal crackatinny tribe in outback Queensland as an answer to finally being heard by the decision makers.  You could call our coming into existence is a bit like the that of the union movement, but without the corruption and better parties. I thought that you may have joined the I'mafakeconservative party.

Do they have that in New Zealand?

Here in Australia, we have the right wing of the Labor Party.

Thoughts?

Karnal wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 4:54pm:

matty wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:33pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:30pm: While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader. How many others here are members of a political party? C'mon, 'fess up. Most people wouldn't know, but I am actually a member of the Liberal party. That's right, Matty. The Dunedin Branch.

The North Ryde branch of the Greens will be disappointed.
Matty is breaking their rules by being a member of two parties.. tut tut Matty  :P

Karnal wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 4:54pm:

matty wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:33pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:30pm: While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader. How many others here are members of a political party? C'mon, 'fess up. Most people wouldn't know, but I am actually a member of the Liberal party. That's right, Matty. The Dunedin Branch.

what have you got against Dunedin Karnal??.. have you ever been there???

we know you have the hots for matty and he has snubbed you.. but what your problem with Dunedin??...

you are getting obsessive like skippy and his congaline..boring is another word for it.

So Peters two self admissions on this forum are

1. He has mental issues.
2. He has joined the Labor Party.

Is it a pre requisite to be a nutcase to join?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 6:42pm:

So Peters two self admissions on this forum are 1. He has mental issues. 2. He has joined the Labor Party. Is it a pre requisite to be a nutcase to join?

Is it a prerequisite for a Boer to be so Smacking rude?

You have to laugh that you've admitted two things.

One to being a nutter and the other to joining Labor.

Certainly made me laugh.

A nutcase, a kiwi and a Labor man. What a winner.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

You have to laugh that you've admitted two things. One to being a nutter and the other to joining Labor. Certainly made me laugh. A nutcase, a kiwi and a Labor man. What a winner.

Andrei, you really are a low type.

I am not, nor have I ever been a "nutcase". You are a liar.

Like many people I have suffered an illness which is under control.

You are far nuttier than I have ever been.

Who are you voting for Peter?

matty wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 3:33pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:30pm: While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader. How many others here are members of a political party? C'mon, 'fess up. Most people wouldn't know, but I am actually a member of the Liberal party.

No way... I don't believe you.

I would consider joining the GREENS but I do not agree with any party 100 percent enough to tow the line no matter what.
The closest I ever came to joining a political party was Labor when Beasley was leader in Howard's first term. I still have the application form in my bottom kitchen drawer.

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 7:02pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 6:49pm: You have to laugh that you've admitted two things. One to being a nutter and the other to joining Labor. Certainly made me laugh. A nutcase, a kiwi and a Labor man. What a winner. Andrei, you really are a low type. I am not, nor have I ever been a "nutcase". You are a liar. Like many people I have suffered an illness which is under control. You are far nuttier than I have ever been.

I've seen plenty of cases on the news where nutcases who had their issues. " under control" go off the rails.

Once a nutter always a nutter.

Nuttier am I? Sorry mate I have never needed medication to sort out a disorder.

Seems it's not under control if you decide to join a political partying a country in which you can't actually vote?

Sane behaviour? :D  :D

skippy. wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 7:29pm:

matty wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:33pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:30pm: While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader. How many others here are members of a political party? C'mon, 'fess up. Most people wouldn't know, but I am actually a member of the Liberal party. No way... I don't believe you.

A lot of people are surprised by it when I tell them.

skippy. wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 7:35pm:

I would consider joining the GREENS but I do not agree with any party 100 percent enough to tow the line no matter what. The closest I ever came to joining a political party was Labor when Beasley was leader in Howard's first term. I still have the application form in my bottom kitchen drawer.

In truth, though, I don't think that many people would agree 100% with every policy of a party, even many politicians themselves. You see division all of the time in both major parties over policy. Not so common with the minor parties, because there are fewer of them, but even there, it happens from time to time.

adelcrow wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 5:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 4:54pm: matty wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 3:33pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:30pm: While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader. How many others here are members of a political party? C'mon, 'fess up. Most people wouldn't know, but I am actually a member of the Liberal party. That's right, Matty. The Dunedin Branch. The North Ryde branch of the Greens will be disappointed. Matty is breaking their rules by being a member of two parties.. tut tut Matty  :P

That’s true, Adelcrow, but it’s perfectly legal. Matty is also a member of the Country Liberal Party in the ACT and the Liberal National Party in Queensland - that we know of.

Are you in any other parties, Matty?

I must admit... I did put my hand in my pocket this election...

I can't say to which party... but I only back winners... ;) ;)

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 4:53pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 2:30pm: While I can't vote in an election because you mean, lousy Aussies won't let me, even though I am affected by the result, at least I get to vote on the party leader. How many others here are members of a political party? C'mon, 'fess up. why did you join the ALP?  serious question.

Well, obviously my leaning is to the left. I joined to try and keep Abbott out, though I knew this was a lost cause.

My main reason was to be able to vote in the leadership ballot. But also to meet people of like mind and, in the long run, have some influence, however small, in the change of direction the ALP needs so badly.

red baron wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 7:13pm:

Who are you voting for Peter?

I will watch the Q&A debate before making a final decision, but at the moment, I'm leaning towards Albo.

Yes yes very sane of you peter.

Joining a political party in someone else's country where you cant vote.

Id up the medication if i were you because youre bloody crackers.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 2:58am:

Yes yes very sane of you peter. Joining a political party in someone else's country where you cant vote. Id up the medication if i were you because youre bloody crackers.

This is my country now. You're not me, something for which I am daily grateful.

You're a kiwi, you blow-in.

I'm yet to see someone unable to vote in "their own" country.

Like I said, I still think you're obviously crackers.
I'd get back on that psychiatrist couch mate :)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 6:42pm:

So Peters two self admissions on this forum are 1. He has mental issues. 2. He has joined the Labor Party. Is it a pre requisite to be a nutcase to join?

Andrei, may or may not have a mental disorder. He may just do a very good job of pretending to be someone with a Dissocial Personality Disorder.

MOTR wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:17am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 26th, 2013 at 6:42pm: So Peters two self admissions on this forum are 1. He has mental issues. 2. He has joined the Labor Party. Is it a pre requisite to be a nutcase to join? Andrei, may or may not have a mental disorder. He may just do a very good job of pretending to be someone with a Dissocial Personality Disorder.

He is too consistent to be pretending.

I've joined the Labor Party

I thought about it once when I was young but I disagree on too many issues, but good luck to you.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 5:23am:

You're a kiwi, you blow-in. I'm yet to see someone unable to vote in "their own" country. Like I said, I still think you're obviously crackers. I'd get back on that psychiatrist couch mate :)

Wtf kind of crap is this? The most unaustralian person on the forum who actually gave up his right to vote having a go at an actual new citizen? What's as troll.

SOB

whilst i'm interested in politics, i mainly see it as a negative force for the advancement of the welfare of the citizenry (both economic and social advancement).

naerly all economic advancement is better handled by the private sector. this is where the drive and innovation and teamwork and high morale and "get things done ' attitude will always reside.
so in matters economic, i see the role of government as setting the rules and being the umpire and letting business get on with it (competition policy).

on social welfare, the environment, health, education, again i see that these things are better handled by empowering people at a community level.
local volunteer organizations (meals on wheels, salvos,)in social welfare, landcare groups in the environement (clean up australia day etc), in health local doctors , nurses and local hospital boards (which canberra can fund, but must then remove its clipboard mentality), in education (local school boards with a voucher system so the federal money follows the child and teachers have to "tout for business".

i see no evidence that either side of politics is serious about reduced the size and influence of government. it seems obvious with maternity schemes, disability schemes, child care schemes, proposed dental schemes, carbon schemes,...etc etc . that canberra sees its role as being ever more all-embracing.

this , i feel, is the wrong path. 
people prosper when they run small businesses and fail and learn and try again.
people prosper socailly when they solve their social problems themselves, be they unemployment, disability, health.
learned helplessness and government separation anxiety only lead to a frightened, anxious electorate with no self esteem, no self worth and no self celebration.

how can people develop a sense of achievement if they are constantly mothered and , dare i say, badly parented by our political masters.

i once hoped the liberal party would be the party of small government, supporting small business and individuals. a party to be kind to people, to encourage people and to challenge people.
i see now that i was wrong. they are  filled with career politicians and people with no life skills . they seek big government and grand centralised visions. they should have checked their egos at the door , but this has not been the case.

so, no, i would never join a party. i would join landcare, teaching english to assylum seekers, horse riding for the disabled, volunteer marine rescue, rural firefighters.
if i had spare time ( i'm actually a member of 2 of those). these give me great personal satisfaction as we "get things done"   clipboards, focus groups, think tanks....no thank you ;) ;)

I joined the Wikileaks Party before the election. It was more of a statement than a serious club membership event, cheap at $20..... I have given much more than that over the years in donations for his legal bills.

Not really for any political reason, although I go for truth and accountability above all else (you all really should) also because I like people who rat on dishonest governments....there's that truth thing again.

Whistle-blowers are my favourite kind of people.

Go democracy!!!!

Dnarever wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:37am:

I've joined the Labor Party I thought about it once when I was young but I disagree on too many issues, but good luck to you.

I was once a member of the Labor Party. Have been considering rejoining myself. If I was guaranteed a vote in the upcoming leadership vote, I would probably join today.

Not sure if I'll be inspired enough to join a party led by Shorten. Thinking about it reminds me why I let my membership lapse in the first place.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 2:58am:

Yes yes very sane of you peter. Joining a political party in someone else's country where you cant vote. Id up the medication if i were you because youre bloody crackers.

andrei you rave about the yanks and loved living there but you couldnt vote either....I agree with pete... this is one way of having a small say in matters... I dont know if he plans on spending the rest of his life here....but assuming he does and will one day take out citizenship..in the mean time he DOES HAVE A SMALL SAY IN MATTERS that are important to him..

AND MORE POWER TO HIM...

why labor I dont know.... ::).. but to each his own.. and thank god we dont all like the same thing and agree on everythin g.. who wants that?

MOTR wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 7:10am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:37am: I've joined the Labor Party I thought about it once when I was young but I disagree on too many issues, but good luck to you. I was once a member of the Labor Party. Have been considering rejoining myself. If I was guaranteed a vote in the upcoming leadership vote, I would probably join today. Not sure if I'll be inspired enough to join a party led by Shorten. Thinking about it reminds me why I let my membership lapse in the first place.

I have never joined anything.... but I am wondering.. when you are a member do you have any say at all in policies?????????.. do they ask for your opinion..???.

I would imagine most branches are full of unionists pushing their oars..I do worry about getting bogged down with one sided propaganda though and that would go for all political parties..... the devil belongs to the other side not ours ::) ::) ::)

MOTR wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 7:10am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:37am: I've joined the Labor Party I thought about it once when I was young but I disagree on too many issues, but good luck to you. I was once a member of the Labor Party. Have been considering rejoining myself. If I was guaranteed a vote in the upcoming leadership vote, I would probably join today. Not sure if I'll be inspired enough to join a party led by Shorten. Thinking about it reminds me why I let my membership lapse in the first place.

I have no real preference in the option of leaders, I don't really know enough about either to separate them except to say that they both seem pretty good options from what I have seen of them.

I would think that the one who loses could find himself in the better position, the winner will have a few tough thankless years and who ever follows may enjoy the benefits of his predecessors hard work against a poor failing opposition.

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 7:23am:

MOTR wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 7:10am: Dnarever wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:37am: I've joined the Labor Party I thought about it once when I was young but I disagree on too many issues, but good luck to you. I was once a member of the Labor Party. Have been considering rejoining myself. If I was guaranteed a vote in the upcoming leadership vote, I would probably join today. Not sure if I'll be inspired enough to join a party led by Shorten. Thinking about it reminds me why I let my membership lapse in the first place. I have never joined anything.... but I am wondering.. when you are a member do you have any say at all in policies?????????.. do they ask for your opinion..???. I would imagine most branches are full of unionists pushing their oars..I do worry about getting bogged down with one sided propaganda though and that would go for all political parties..... the devil belongs to the other side not ours ::) ::) ::)

It's been so long since I've been to a meeting, I'm probably not the best person to ask. The overriding memory I have from my last meeting was some girl banging on about East Timor (circa 1993). At the time I had no understanding of the issue, so I really wasnt paying attention. What was clear, however, was that she wasnt happy with Labor's position on East Timor, and she thought she could make a difference. Can't remember if she was able to pass her motion, I hope I didn't vote against it.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 5:23am:

You're a kiwi, you blow-in. I'm yet to see someone unable to vote in "their own" country.

Right. You can't vote here either.

Interested in joining the Dunedin Libs?

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 7:20am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:58am: Yes yes very sane of you peter. Joining a political party in someone else's country where you cant vote. Id up the medication if i were you because youre bloody crackers. andrei you rave about the yanks and loved living there but you couldnt vote either....I agree with pete... this is one way of having a small say in matters... I dont know if he plans on spending the rest of his life here....but assuming he does and will one day take out citizenship..in the mean time he DOES HAVE A SMALL SAY IN MATTERS that are important to him.. AND MORE POWER TO HIM... why labor I dont know.... ::).. but to each his own.. and thank god we dont all like the same thing and agree on everythin g.. who wants that?

Barring accidents I'm here to stay and, yes, I'd like to become a citizen eventually.

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 7:20am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:58am: Yes yes very sane of you peter. Joining a political party in someone else's country where you cant vote. Id up the medication if i were you because youre bloody crackers. andrei you rave about the yanks and loved living there but you couldnt vote either....I agree with pete... this is one way of having a small say in matters... I dont know if he plans on spending the rest of his life here....but assuming he does and will one day take out citizenship..in the mean time he DOES HAVE A SMALL SAY IN MATTERS that are important to him.. AND MORE POWER TO HIM... why labor I dont know.... ::).. but to each his own.. and thank god we dont all like the same thing and agree on everythin g.. who wants that? Barring accidents I'm here to stay and, yes, I'd like to become a citizen eventually.

Welcome to OZ.  please leave your pet sheep behind.

So nobody else here is a member of a political party?

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 2:02pm:

So nobody else here is a member of a political party?

I've thought of joining the Dunedin Libs, Matty, but no.

I'm more a political staffer. I work for the candidate.

I'm non-partisan.

I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs.
The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside

Do people really join political parties?

Are there funny handshakes, cool furry hats and regular picnics with jumping castles?

Thank you, longy, much appreciated.

Pet sheep made Christmas dinner before I arrived.

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 2:42pm:

I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside

the only reason i would join the liberal party would be to try to push them to the right. they have drifted way too far to the left.

Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 2:49pm:

Do people really join political parties? Are there funny handshakes, cool furry hats and regular picnics with jumping castles?

Not the Norwood branch of the Libs..we have cups of twinings tea and tim tams  :D

aquascoot wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:00pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside the only reason i would join the liberal party would be to try to push them to the right. they have drifted way too far to the left.

Compared to when?

Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 2:49pm:

Do people really join political parties? Are there funny handshakes, cool furry hats and regular picnics with jumping castles?

Best estimate of political party membership is about 112,000. This doesn't include PUP, who won't say, and the Nats, who don't seem to know!

aquascoot wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:00pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside the only reason i would join the liberal party would be to try to push them to the right. they have drifted way too far to the left.

You and half a million other branch-stackees. How do you think candidates like Jaymes Diaz get up?

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:03pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:49pm: Do people really join political parties? Are there funny handshakes, cool furry hats and regular picnics with jumping castles? Not the Norwood branch of the Libs..we have cups of twinings tea and tim tams  :D

Is that anywhere near Dunedin?

The Dunedin Libs have got a locked cupboard at the Dunedin Masonic Centre now. There's no Tim Tams, but at least the Hunters and Fishers don't steal their supplies since Matty took over as Treasurer.

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:12pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:49pm: Do people really join political parties? Are there funny handshakes, cool furry hats and regular picnics with jumping castles? Best estimate of political party membership is about 112,000. This doesn't include PUP, who won't say, and the Nats, who don't seem to know!

112,000?

Well, butter me on both sides and call me Louise, I never imagined that there's that many. Triple digits perhaps, but not over 100,000.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:00pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside the only reason i would join the liberal party would be to try to push them to the right. they have drifted way too far to the left.

I agree we are far too soft in this country....FANCY paying people NOT to work...bloody stupid idea..

and all that tripe about robbing the rich to give to the poor...HA...more like robbing the rich to get themselves out of trouble..

dont remember the poor getting any richer....WELL DO YOU???? HA.

I think its time we sent all those that cant find a JOB to INDIA>. plenty of work over there..

as for the BOATS... well. how about using our NAVY for the job its really meant to be doing... HA.... ;) ;)

let the fight begin..this is no place for sissies...HA

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 2:42pm:

I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside

We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties.

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

aquascoot wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:00pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside the only reason i would join the liberal party would be to try to push them to the right. they have drifted way too far to the left. I agree we are far too soft in this country....FANCY paying people NOT to work...bloody stupid idea.. and all that tripe about robbing the rich to give to the poor...HA...more like robbing the rich to get themselves out of trouble.. dont remember the poor getting any richer....WELL DO YOU???? HA. I think its time we sent all those that cant find a JOB to INDIA>. plenty of work over there.. as for the BOATS... well. how about using our NAVY for the job its really meant to be doing... HA.... ;) ;) let the fight begin..this is no place for sissies...HA

Nutjob.

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties.

Since when did Menzies say the Liberal Party was a right wing party?..In fact he said quite the opposite  :P

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:20pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:18pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties. Since when did Menzies say the Liberal Party was a right wing party?..In fact he said quite the opposite  :P

We've always been a centre to right party. I myself am halfway between centre-right and far-right. The Liberal party is a broad church, but not broad enough for lefties.

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:22pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:20pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:18pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties. Since when did Menzies say the Liberal Party was a right wing party?..In fact he said quite the opposite  :P We've always been a centre to right party. I myself am halfway between centre-right and far-right. The Liberal party is a broad church, but not broad enough for lefties.

Do you know anything about why and how the party was created by Menzies?
Do sum reading young fella

Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:17pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:12pm: Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:49pm: Do people really join political parties? Are there funny handshakes, cool furry hats and regular picnics with jumping castles? Best estimate of political party membership is about 112,000. This doesn't include PUP, who won't say, and the Nats, who don't seem to know! 112,000? Well, butter me on both sides and call me Louise, I never imagined that there's that many. Triple digits perhaps, but not over 100,000.

PUPs got about a dozen more I would say... and the Nats about double that..lets be honest aussies are so laid back.. or blow hards its hard to tell really..

feast one day famine the next...

as soon as their footy team starts losing.. off they go and sulk until they start coming back again.. ask any of them??...they dont even blame the players anymore.. its the poor coach or even the board ::) ::)

you have to buy loyalty today.. so PUP should do alright for a while..

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:22pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:20pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:18pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties. Since when did Menzies say the Liberal Party was a right wing party?..In fact he said quite the opposite  :P We've always been a centre to right party. I myself am halfway between centre-right and far-right. The Liberal party is a broad church, but not broad enough for lefties. Do you know anything about why and how the party was created by Menzies?

Not the Dunedin Libs or the Ryde Greens. They're independent.

This is why the Libs are a bored church.

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:22pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:20pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:18pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties. Since when did Menzies say the Liberal Party was a right wing party?..In fact he said quite the opposite  :P We've always been a centre to right party. I myself am halfway between centre-right and far-right. The Liberal party is a broad church, but not broad enough for lefties. Do you know anything about why and how the party was created by Menzies? Do sum reading young fella

boy dont you live in the dark ages....

as if any party bares any resemblance  to its beginnings... the greens especially???????

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:29pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:23pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:22pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:20pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:18pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties. Since when did Menzies say the Liberal Party was a right wing party?..In fact he said quite the opposite  :P We've always been a centre to right party. I myself am halfway between centre-right and far-right. The Liberal party is a broad church, but not broad enough for lefties. Do you know anything about why and how the party was created by Menzies? Do sum reading young fella boy dont you live in the dark ages.... as if any party bares any resemblance  to its beginnings... the greens especially???????

Exactly. When Matty joined they were more about animal welfare.

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 2:02pm:

So nobody else here is a member of a political party?

lol!!!!!....typical Liberal.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal.

I belonged to the Girl Guides once......cant remember why they asked me to leave. ::) ::)

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:40pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. I belonged to the Girl Guides once......cant remember why they asked me to leave. ::) ::)

Maybe you didn't earn your badges, dear.

Matty used to pay people to get his.

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 2:58pm:

Thank you, longy, much appreciated. Pet sheep made Christmas dinner before I arrived.

ah... finally found a good use for it!!!!

I like lamb :)

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:40pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. I belonged to the Girl Guides once......cant remember why they asked me to leave. ::) ::)

Well well...we have something in common coz in the early 60's I was in the Scouts for less than a day before the Scout Leader told me to leave and never return.
Apparently I was quite the little sh!t back then  :D

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:22pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:20pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:18pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties. Since when did Menzies say the Liberal Party was a right wing party?..In fact he said quite the opposite  :P We've always been a centre to right party. I myself am halfway between centre-right and far-right. The Liberal party is a broad church, but not broad enough for lefties. Do you know anything about why and how the party was created by Menzies? Do sum reading young fella

One of the major reasons was the opposition of Communism and Socialism.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:32pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal.

How so?

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:15pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so?

Like I said..Im a member my of local Norwood branch where Steven Marshall is the member as well as being the Opposition leader.
And yes..he is a moderate  :P

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:15pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so?

More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty.

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:18pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? Like I said..Im a member my of local Norwood branch where Steven Marshall is the member as well as being the Opposition leader. And yes..he is a moderate  :P

Yes, he is, as are Turnbull, O'Farrell and others.

But as I said, we are a broad church. I am from the conservative side.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:21pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty.

Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why?

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:28pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why?

Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty.

Get it yet? thought not.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not.

Clearly the Australian people liked what they saw, they voted us in with a thumping majority.  :)

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties.

That's just it. The Liberal party when founded under Menzies was not conservative right wing, thats why they are called the Liberal party nuf nuf. ::) the Liberal party was a centre party right up until the loony fringe seized control under the lying little rodent. Morons like you know sweet fa.

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 3:40pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. I belonged to the Girl Guides once......cant remember why they asked me to leave. ::) ::)

Hmmm....I wonder.....caught playing with a Boy Scout's woggle perhaps? Drunken sausage sizzle? Pot parties?

No knickers? Mooning?

The possibilities are endless.....

;)

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:21pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty.

Exactly. Not just brains, but luck. Matty has always gotten what he wants, and has never had to try too hard either.

If Matty could apply these skills to represent the people of Newport, Dunedin or Darwin, they would be extremely fortunate.

Also, Matty could make $180,000 and wouldn't need to become a specialist.

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. Clearly the Australian people liked what they saw, they voted us in with a thumping majority.  :)

Except Tina MacFarlane, Matty. That vile Warren Snowdon ran an awfully unfair campaign. The NT News is a leftard rag from way back.

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. Clearly the Australian people liked what they saw, they voted us in with a thumping majority.  :)

Comprehension is obviously not your strong point matty.

I was actually replying to a silly question.

See the thread about the first boat turnback, that wasn't.  You should all be lobbying for better education.

skippy. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:18pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties. That's just it. The Liberal party when founded under Menzies was not conservative right wing, thats why they are called the Liberal party nuf nuf. ::) the Liberal party was a centre party right up until the loony fringe seized control under the lying little rodent.

Yes, Skippy, but it's the leftards' fault for becoming centre to far-right and stealing Matty's ground.

SHAME LEFTARDS SHAME.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:33pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not.

interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory.

skippy. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:18pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties. That's just it. The Liberal party when founded under Menzies was not conservative right wing, thats why they are called the Liberal party nuf nuf. ::) the Liberal party was a centre party right up until the loony fringe seized control under the lying little rodent. Morons like you know sweet fa.

It was started as a party that opposed Communism and Socialism, and stood for economic liberalism, as well as conservatism.

Even today, you have moderates in the party, and more conservatives. I myself am actually from the more conservative faction.

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. Clearly the Australian people liked what they saw, they voted us in with a thumping majority.  :)

Do you have statistics to back that up? I ask because I would challenge your assertion there.

I don't think the actual numbers would stack up to a "thumping" majority. Suffice to say, even a reasonable majority is still a win, but, spin is never a good look one would think Libs would have learnt that from Labor. Apparently not.

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:43pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:18pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties. That's just it. The Liberal party when founded under Menzies was not conservative right wing, thats why they are called the Liberal party nuf nuf. ::) the Liberal party was a centre party right up until the loony fringe seized control under the lying little rodent. Morons like you know sweet fa. It was started as a party that opposed Communism and Socialism, and stood for economic liberalism, as well as conservatism. Even today, you have moderates in the party, and more conservatives. I myself am actually from the more conservative faction.

I am right you're a wrong,again, child.

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 5:11pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory.

Another one, why do I bother.

Do you people even read?

All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm.

skippy. wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 5:54pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:37pm: skippy. wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:43pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:18pm: adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:42pm: I would encourage all moderates and progressive to join their local Liberal Party branch otherwise we'll be stuck with the far right fruitloops that have taken over the federal Libs. The Labor Party and Greens dont need anymore lefties but the Liberal Party does...make changes from the inside We are a party of the right, we don't want lefties. That's just it. The Liberal party when founded under Menzies was not conservative right wing, thats why they are called the Liberal party nuf nuf. ::) the Liberal party was a centre party right up until the loony fringe seized control under the lying little rodent. Morons like you know sweet fa. It was started as a party that opposed Communism and Socialism, and stood for economic liberalism, as well as conservatism. Even today, you have moderates in the party, and more conservatives. I myself am actually from the more conservative faction. I am right you're a wrong,again, child.

Look it up.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:08pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:11pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory. Another one, why do I bother. Do you people even read? All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm.

Huh? All I did was ask whether anyone else is a member of a party, a questions that Peter also asked in the op.

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:30pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:11pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory. Another one, why do I bother. Do you people even read? All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm. Huh? All I did was ask whether anyone else is a member of a party, a questions that Peter also asked in the op.

ok....I give up....you win!

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:45pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:30pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:11pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory. Another one, why do I bother. Do you people even read? All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm. Huh? All I did was ask whether anyone else is a member of a party, a questions that Peter also asked in the op. ok....I give up....you win!

What are you on about?

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:54pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:45pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:30pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:11pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory. Another one, why do I bother. Do you people even read? All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm. Huh? All I did was ask whether anyone else is a member of a party, a questions that Peter also asked in the op. ok....I give up....you win! What are you on about?

matty why do you bother... they are baiting you..

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:30pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:11pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory. Another one, why do I bother. Do you people even read? All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm. Huh? All I did was ask whether anyone else is a member of a party, a questions that Peter also asked in the op.

To ask the question at the very beginning of the thread is reasonable. He wanted to know, he was after answers.

However, your Reply #66 is not reasonable, as a matter of fact, it's pretty silly, considering the information at hand.

Get it yet?

For sanity sake, can someone tell this wannabe ruler what he's missing?

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:54pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:45pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:30pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:11pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory. Another one, why do I bother. Do you people even read? All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm. Huh? All I did was ask whether anyone else is a member of a party, a questions that Peter also asked in the op. ok....I give up....you win! What are you on about? matty why do you bother... they are baiting you..

Ignore them, Matty. They’re just being foolish.As usual.

Typical children.

Good call Peter..vote for Albanese...Shorten is a thug.

Have you heard the latest story doing to rounds?

A cabbie rang this one in; he had to ferry Shorten down town this week. Reckoned he was the rudest prick ever to sit in his cab.

Shorten got on the blower and spoke, "listen big fella when I'm there you've got to get up and ask what I'm going to do when I'm Prime Minister, make sure you ask the question!"

The question got asked not by only the big fella but also by another stooge.

Just a blink of the eye in the life of the Man who would be King..Bill 'I'll f..k a fire hydrant' Shorten. :)

Karnal wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 7:06pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:54pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:45pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:30pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:11pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory. Another one, why do I bother. Do you people even read? All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm. Huh? All I did was ask whether anyone else is a member of a party, a questions that Peter also asked in the op. ok....I give up....you win! What are you on about? matty why do you bother... they are baiting you.. Ignore them, Matty. They’re just being foolish.As usual. Typical children.

Karnal....so glad you turned up, matty has been very lax, he is a bad politician, pull him aside, bitch slap him if you have to, he's started asking silly questions, making himself and his party look abnormal, put a media ban on him if you have to, but do something.

I'm leaving it up to you Karnal, give him a shove, no time to slacken off after the election, considering he did so bad too, no wonder though.

red baron wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 8:00pm:

Good call Peter..vote for Albanese...Shorten is a thug. Have you heard the latest story doing to rounds? A cabbie rang this one in; he had to ferry Shorten down town this week. Reckoned he was the rudest prick ever to sit in his cab. Shorten got on the blower and spoke, "listen big fella when I'm there you've got to get up and ask what I'm going to do when I'm Prime Minister, make sure you ask the question!" The question got asked not by only the big fella but also by another stooge. Just a blink of the eye in the life of the Man who would be King..Bill 'I'll f..k a fire hydrant' Shorten. :)

A cabbie was it? The same cabbie that drops Alan Jones off at the local public toilet block?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:30pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:11pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory. Another one, why do I bother. Do you people even read? All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm. Huh? All I did was ask whether anyone else is a member of a party, a questions that Peter also asked in the op. To ask the question at the very beginning of the thread is reasonable. He wanted to know, he was after answers. However, your Reply #66 is not reasonable, as a matter of fact, it's pretty silly, considering the information at hand. Get it yet? For sanity sake, can someone tell this wannabe ruler what he's missing?

I just found it weird that only two people would be, you ledties get offended (selectively of course, depending on who says it) about the smallest things.

cods wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 7:06pm:

matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:54pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:45pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:30pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:08pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 5:11pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:33pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:28pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:21pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 4:15pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:32pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 2:02pm: So nobody else here is a member of a political party? lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why? Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty. Get it yet? thought not. interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory. Another one, why do I bother. Do you people even read? All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm. Huh? All I did was ask whether anyone else is a member of a party, a questions that Peter also asked in the op. ok....I give up....you win! What are you on about? matty why do you bother... they are baiting you..

You're probably right, cods. They seriously need to get over their bitterness and accept that they lost.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 8:04pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 7:51pm: cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 7:06pm: matty wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 6:54pm: lol!!!!!....typical Liberal. How so? More evidence that you would make the perfect politician. You are just one of those people that have the brains for it matty. Pansi, you said that I was a typical Liberal, and all that I did was ask why?

Ok, the libs are like the walking dead, they can't see or hear what the country is telling them, when it's clearly in front of their eyes......like you matty.

Get it yet? thought not.[/quote]

interesting comment to make less then three weeks after a LANDSLIDE LIBERAL victory.[/quote]

Another one, why do I bother.

Do you people even read?

All my responses to matty have been in reference to Reply #66 at 2:02pm.[/quote]

Huh? All I did was ask whether anyone else is a member of a party, a questions that Peter also asked in the op.[/quote]


ok....I give up....you win![/quote]

What are you on about?[/quote]



matty why do you bother... they are baiting you..[/quote]

Ignore them, Matty. They’re just being foolish.As usual.

Typical children.
[/quote]


Karnal....so glad you turned up, matty has been very lax, he is a bad politician, pull him aside, bitch slap him if you have to, he's started asking silly questions, making himself and his party look abnormal, put a media ban on him if you have to, but do something.

I'm leaving it up to you Karnal, give him a shove, no time to slacken off after the election, considering he did so bad too, no wonder though.[/quote]





Thank you, Pansi. You’re right, of course. Matty did not get his seat, but he’s still in the Liberal Party. In the more conservative faction, dear.

But Matty is hardly a bad politician. You have no idea how hard things are up in the Northern Territory. The locals are appalling. I always said Matty should have run in Hornsby or Ryde, but no. Lingiari it had to be.

Yes, Matty must now run everything past me, so that I can run it past the PM’s Office. It’s not ideal, but this is just the way it has to be. Mr Abbott gets very heavy with recalcitrants, and I don’t want Matty to get on his bad side.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I must attend to our little do at the Dunedin Masonic Centre. Matty will unveil his old self.

It should be quite an occasion, dear.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 8:07pm:

red baron wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 8:00pm: Good call Peter..vote for Albanese...Shorten is a thug. Have you heard the latest story doing to rounds? A cabbie rang this one in; he had to ferry Shorten down town this week. Reckoned he was the rudest prick ever to sit in his cab. Shorten got on the blower and spoke, "listen big fella when I'm there you've got to get up and ask what I'm going to do when I'm Prime Minister, make sure you ask the question!" The question got asked not by only the big fella but also by another stooge. Just a blink of the eye in the life of the Man who would be King..Bill 'I'll f..k a fire hydrant' Shorten. :) A cabbie was it? The same cabbie that drops Alan Jones off at the local public toilet block?

Does he provide the straws?

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 12:03pm:

Barring accidents I'm here to stay and, yes, I'd like to become a citizen eventually.

WTF??!

Don't ever comment on me regarding opinions on Australia ever again!!!

I am an Australian citizen by birth! I was born in Australia. I am a citizen. I hold a passport.

YOU are not even a friggen citizen!!!!

Bizarre. Joining a political party in someone else's country......

Really really odd behaviour. Something wrong with your own country???

Until you have one of these, Pete.

I suggest it all has sweet FA to do with you.

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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 28^th, 2013 at 2:34am:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 12:03pm: Barring accidents I'm here to stay and, yes, I'd like to become a citizen eventually. WTF??! Don't ever comment on me regarding opinions on Australia ever again!!! I am an Australian citizen by birth! I was born in Australia. I am a citizen. I hold a passport. YOU are not even a friggen citizen!!!! Bizarre. Joining a political party in someone else's country...... Really really odd behaviour. Something wrong with your own country???

Well, look who's emerged from under his rock. Our original Boring Boer.

I will say whatever I like to whoever I wish. This is not apartheid South Africa, sonny, though I know how much you miss it.

NZ is a fine country. Australia is even better.

And what's this obsession with showing pictures of a passport?

Get help, Andrei.

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

It's my passport. I'm an Australian citizen by birth.

Why on earth would a foreigner think he can comment on a citizens view of their country???

It's you that needs help Peter.

You can see why admitted to being a mental case. Your actions give you away.

It's foreigners like you sticking their nose into Australia's affairs that we should tell to bugger off.

You're not Australian. You have no business commenting.

I comment on Australia because I'm an Australian. By birth.

Why on earth do you think you have that right?

Because I live here.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 28^th, 2013 at 3:33am:

It's my passport. I'm an Australian citizen by birth. Why on earth would a foreigner think he can comment on a citizens view of their country??? It's you that needs help Peter. You can see why admitted to being a mental case. Your actions give you away. It's foreigners like you sticking their nose into Australia's affairs that we should tell to bugger off. You're not Australian. You have no business commenting.

FFS, give up. You are becoming increasingly repetitive and boring.

Comes from being an accountant, I guess.

I comment on the US, though I am not an American. I comment on Afghanistan, though not an Afghan.

Live with it, sonny.

Andrei, just one thought for you to ponder on before I go back to sleep.

If I revealed I suffered from cancer, would you constantly refer to me as "cancerous"? I think, and hope, not.

Mental illnesses are no different than any other health condition. They don't make ne "nutty" or a "nutcase". Yet you constantly use these terms just to score a cheap point.

I seem to remember you recently stated only God could judge you. I don't think He would be very impressed.

Good night.

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 28^th, 2013 at 4:07am:

Andrei, just one thought for you to ponder on before I go back to sleep. If I revealed I suffered from cancer, would you constantly refer to me as "cancerous"? I think, and hope, not. Mental illnesses are no different than any other health condition. They don't make ne "nutty" or a "nutcase". Yet you constantly use these terms just to score a cheap point. I seem to remember you recently stated only God could judge you. I don't think He would be very impressed. Good night.

Probably best to ignore him, Peter. Andrei has no shame.

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 8:08pm:

I just found it weird that only two people would be, you ledties get offended (selectively of course, depending on who says it) about the smallest things.

The penny dropped......at last.....reading through the pages in chronological order can always be beneficial........ woohoo for education. It is the education era, isn't it?

Some people are slow and dim witted, you talk to them and they respond with a blank, far away stare, eyes glazed, the lights are on but nobody's home. I'm glad you're not like that matty, we need young, vibrant, energetic and alert people in parliament.

why do we still have labour party storys on oz politics

the country voted for a change and a difference, the chance to make a real difference, something labour failed to do for seven years and two pms

warrigal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2013 at 6:50am:

why do we still have labour party storys on oz politics the country voted for a change and a difference, the chance to make a real difference, something labour failed to do for seven years and two pms

Never mind, warrigal, when Tony gets around to it he'll make them illegal.

Having watched Q&A tonight, I have decided to vote for Albo.

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 30^th, 2013 at 10:42pm:

Having watched Q&A tonight, I have decided to vote for Albo.

What's your rationale for that decision, Peter?

matty wrote on Sep 27^th, 2013 at 4:14pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 27th, 2013 at 3:23pm: Do you know anything about why and how the party was created by Menzies? Do sum reading young fella One of the major reasons was the opposition of Communism and Socialism.

Another reason is the United Australia Party were a rabble and got creamed in the 1943 election. Menzies' new Liberal Party first contested the 1946 election.

warrigal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2013 at 6:50am:

why do we still have labour party storys on oz politics

Something called "freedom of speech", maybe you've heard of it.

warrigal wrote on Sep 28^th, 2013 at 6:50am:

why do we still have labour party storys stories on oz politics

They're the opposition party.

Do you have any idea how things work in this country?  Seriously?

MOTR wrote on Sep 30^th, 2013 at 10:53pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 10:42pm: Having watched Q&A tonight, I have decided to vote for Albo. What's your rationale for that decision, Peter?

I think one of the tweeters summed it up for me in talking about Albanese having "passion". That's the ideal quality for a Labor leader IMO.

Shorten is very capable, but I find him a bit cold.

Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2013 at 1:16am:

MOTR wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 10:53pm: Peter Freedman wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 10:42pm: Having watched Q&A tonight, I have decided to vote for Albo. What's your rationale for that decision, Peter? I think one of the tweeters summed it up for me ...

I'm against capital punishment, however, when it comes to Q&A tweeters I'm willing to make an exception.

Peter Freedman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2013 at 1:16am:

Shorten is very capable, but I find him a bit cold.

He made a rousing speech this morning. I was quite impressed and somewhat surprised. He can deliver, but I don't think Q&A is a medium which suits his persona.