DRAH told a lie about me, and I told him so.  An outright lie that he just made up in order to support his stance on AGW.

Subsequently, I've been threatened with a ban.  I didn't tell any lies.  I didn't call someone a "pedo", like DRAH did, yet I am being threatened with a ban.

The AGW alarmists don't want debate: they want control.  Listen up people.

How have we let this forum degrade to this level?

Well it hasn't happened. 

However, trolling is not debate. You were off topic.

muso wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 9:44pm:

Well it hasn't happened.  However, trolling is not debate. You were off topic.

I was incorrectly accused of saying something, and defended myself.

That is not trolling.

Whenever someone says anything against AGW, they are bombarded with personal abuse, called trolls, told they are pedophiles (or are endangering the lives of everyone's kids), or  are ignored.

It's really quite a shame.

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It seems a few of them have lost the plot. The hysteria has been notched up over the last few days. Their arrogance is starting to become repulsive, quite frankly. # is merely a brainwashed troll who believes every single thing he reads that is pro AGW - I wouldn't pay much attention to him (because that's exactly what he's after). Stand by for more "arguments" based on consensus and the lives of your kids, and your kids' kids. Consensus, personal abuse, emotions, and lies are their main sources of debate.  Science, unfortunately, comes in dead last.

muso wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 9:53pm:

Quote: It seems a few of them have lost the plot. The hysteria has been notched up over the last few days. Their arrogance is starting to become repulsive, quite frankly. # is merely a brainwashed troll who believes every single thing he reads that is pro AGW - I wouldn't pay much attention to him (because that's exactly what he's after). Stand by for more "arguments" based on consensus and the lives of your kids, and your kids' kids. Consensus, personal abuse, emotions, and lies are their main sources of debate.  Science, unfortunately, comes in dead last.

Exactly.

Let's move forward, lose the personal attacks and talk about the science.

muso wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 9:58pm:

Let's move forward, lose the personal attacks and talk about the science.

Agreed.

muso wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 9:53pm:

Quote: It seems a few of them have lost the plot. The hysteria has been notched up over the last few days. Their arrogance is starting to become repulsive, quite frankly. # is merely a brainwashed troll who believes every single thing he reads that is pro AGW - I wouldn't pay much attention to him (because that's exactly what he's after). Stand by for more "arguments" based on consensus and the lives of your kids, and your kids' kids. Consensus, personal abuse, emotions, and lies are their main sources of debate.  Science, unfortunately, comes in dead last.

To far!
lol

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Vuk11 wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 9:59pm:

muso wrote on Oct 3rd, 2013 at 9:53pm: Quote: It seems a few of them have lost the plot. The hysteria has been notched up over the last few days. Their arrogance is starting to become repulsive, quite frankly. # is merely a brainwashed troll who believes every single thing he reads that is pro AGW - I wouldn't pay much attention to him (because that's exactly what he's after). Stand by for more "arguments" based on consensus and the lives of your kids, and your kids' kids. Consensus, personal abuse, emotions, and lies are their main sources of debate.  Science, unfortunately, comes in dead last. To far! lol

Let's concentrate on the science Vuk.

muso wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 10:01pm:

... Let's concentrate on the science ...

Yes, please! An end to vacuous word games and unsubstantiated assertions.