A response to a request from Yadda.


Yadda wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 12:58am:

AaLF wrote on Oct 22nd, 2013 at 6:57am: It appears that 4-5 years ago a sub forum "ISLAM" was opened.  The moderators are gone long time.  no doubt sick of the redneck crap espoused every day. Please close this forum today. It is totally offensive what is written in there. aalf, What is 'totally offensive', about everyone examining what ISLAM's own foundation texts declare ? aalf, If what is revealed about ISLAM in this forum is incorrect, THEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE WHERE WE ARE IN ERROR, and correct us, in debate on this forum. We await your perspicuous argument(s), defending ISLAM and moslems, .....and demonstrating our error. +++

I see no error in the verses and hadith you have gathered.  I think it conveys the situation quite well.  As I mentioned before - it's about Heaven & Hell. 

What you have failed to grasp Yadda, is it's about surrendering your 'Free Will' to God.   Islam is the 'end of the line'.  We have been ordered to establish "The Kingdom of God" over the earth.

The line has been drawn & the pen lifted.  This is now about living under the Law of God or the Doctrines of Men.  I'm sure you can distinguish between the two.

Allah (Himself) is Witness that there is no Allah save Him. And the angels and the men of learning too are witness. Maintaining His creation in justice, there is no Allah save Him the Almighty, the Wise.
Lo! religion with Allah is 'the Surrender' (to His Will and Guidance). Those who (formerly) received the Scripture differed only after knowledge came unto them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso disbelieveth the revelations of Allah will find that lo! Allah is swift at reckoning.
And if they argue with thee, (O Muhammad), say: I have surrendered my purpose to Allah and so have those who follow me. And say unto those who have received the Scripture and those who read not: Have ye (too) surrendered? If they surrender, then truly they are rightly guided, and if they turn away, then it is thy duty only to convey the message (unto them). Allah is Seer of (His) bondmen. QURAN 3:18-20

I hope this has cleared up the issue for you Yadda.  And I hope you will ask God in private to reveal to you 'what is the truth and what is the falsehood and to open your heart to the truth and close your heart to the falsehood.

AaLF

AaLF wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 9:15am:

A response to a request from Yadda. Yadda wrote on Oct 24th, 2013 at 12:58am: AaLF wrote on Oct 22nd, 2013 at 6:57am: It appears that 4-5 years ago a sub forum "ISLAM" was opened.  The moderators are gone long time.  no doubt sick of the redneck crap espoused every day. Please close this forum today. It is totally offensive what is written in there. aalf, What is 'totally offensive', about everyone examining what ISLAM's own foundation texts declare ? aalf, If what is revealed about ISLAM in this forum is incorrect, THEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE WHERE WE ARE IN ERROR, and correct us, in debate on this forum. We await your perspicuous argument(s), defending ISLAM and moslems, .....and demonstrating our error. +++ I see no error in the verses and hadith you have gathered.  I think it conveys the situation quite well.  As I mentioned before - it's about Heaven & Hell.  What you have failed to grasp Yadda, is it's about surrendering your 'Free Will' to God.   Islam is the 'end of the line'.  We have been ordered to establish "The Kingdom of God" over the earth. The line has been drawn & the pen lifted.  This is now about living under the Law of God or the Doctrines of Men.  I'm sure you can distinguish between the two. Allah (Himself) is Witness that there is no Allah save Him. And the angels and the men of learning too are witness. Maintaining His creation in justice, there is no Allah save Him the Almighty, the Wise. Lo! religion with Allah is 'the Surrender' (to His Will and Guidance). Those who (formerly) received the Scripture differed only after knowledge came unto them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso disbelieveth the revelations of Allah will find that lo! Allah is swift at reckoning. And if they argue with thee, (O Muhammad), say: I have surrendered my purpose to Allah and so have those who follow me. And say unto those who have received the Scripture and those who read not: Have ye (too) surrendered? If they surrender, then truly they are rightly guided, and if they turn away, then it is thy duty only to convey the message (unto them). Allah is Seer of (His) bondmen. QURAN 3:18-20 I hope this has cleared up the issue for you Yadda.  And I hope you will ask God in private to reveal to you 'what is the truth and what is the falsehood and to open your heart to the truth and close your heart to the falsehood. AaLF

"Allah (Himself) is Witness that there is no Allah save Him."


aalf,

The authority of moslems [to enforce Allah's will] is derived from ISLAM's authority in the world.

ISLAM's authority is dependent upon Allah's authority.

And Allah's authority, is based wholly upon the Koran's claimed inerrant condition.iThe Sana Koran parchments were discovered in Sana, Yemen in 1972.

The numerous Sana Koran parchments reveal the evident editing and fabrication that took place, in the compiling of the 'inerrant' Koran.



aalf,

The Koran is a fabrication.

Can you prove, with reason, and with logic, that the Koran is not a fabrication ?

How do you, with reason, and with logic, account for the differing versions of the Koran that were uncovered in Sana, Yemen in 1972 ?



Scientists and historians, using ISLAMIC jurisdiction [Sana, Yemen] sources for their research, have proven that the Koran is a fabrication.

Your authority, FROM ALLAH, is derived from a fabricated document.






Quote:

Would the Earliest Quranic Manuscripts of Sana’a Spell the Downfall of Islam? Sunday, 28 June 2009 12:56 The earliest Quranic manuscripts discovered in the Sana'a mosque in Yemen not only differ from the standard version, but disagree amongst themselves. Since Muslims believe that the Quran contains the verses of Allah word for word, the new finds may unravel the 'Pandora's Box' for Islam...

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=46







ISLAM is a fraud upon mankind.



The inerrant Koran???
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1295396564/77#77

Quote:

Moslem scholars have no difficulty in making an adjudication upon the contents of some old obscure Hadith,       .....and yet, moslem scholars refuse to acknowledge the implications of the Sana'a mosque manuscripts, upon the moslem claims regarding the integrity of the Koran itself. The truth is that the discovery of the Sana'a mosque manuscripts, irrefutably proves that the Koran itself is NOT the 'inerrant' manuscript [which moslems claim and insist, that it is]. The truth is that the the discovery, and the EXAMINATION, of the Sana'a mosque manuscripts, proves that the 'inerrant' Koran is [without doubt] a fabricated document. And the response from the worldwide moslem community ? Total denial,    ....and their refusal to acknowledge what is TRUE, in regards to those Sana'a mosque manuscripts. Surprise, surprise! Google; Quranic Manuscripts Sana

And ISLAM remains, a false religion, for a false people.

Christianity is also a false religion for a false people.

Christinaity is so confusing and is only for the deranged mentally impaired members of society.

http://i.imgur.com/rT4T3lZ.png

wally1 wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

Christianity is also a false religion for a false people. Christinaity is so confusing and is only for the deranged mentally impaired members of society. http://i.imgur.com/rT4T3lZ.png

Why don't you prove that to us wally? In person as an individual, why don't you give us facts? Not hypotheticals?

Adamant wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 4:23pm:

wally1 wrote on Oct 24th, 2013 at 3:23pm: Christianity is also a false religion for a false people. Christinaity is so confusing and is only for the deranged mentally impaired members of society. http://i.imgur.com/rT4T3lZ.png Why don't you prove that to us wally? In person as an individual, why don't you give us facts? Not hypotheticals?

You do realise that this is a discussion about religious faith, don't you?  Oh, the sweet irony!   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

wally1 wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

Christianity is also a false religion for a false people. Christinaity is so confusing and is only for the deranged mentally impaired members of society. http://i.imgur.com/rT4T3lZ.png

http://i.imgur.com/rT4T3lZ.png




wally1,

Your graphic does not, and is not intended to, clarify or explain, imo.



wally1,

If there is God, can you imagine that it is possible, that God may be able manifest himself [as he pleases], within his own creation ???

Or does God exist only as an old guy with a beard, who lives in the clouds ???          ;D            :P

e.g.
Water is a liquid.
And water is, H2O.

But is H2O only H2O when it is the liquid water ?

e.g.
H2O can exist in at least 3 forms.

H2O can manifest as water, as ice, or as [invisible] water vapour suspended in air.



And i did not use that analogy of H2O because i 'believe' in a 'God-head' Trinity.

I do not.


FURTHER;
The Bible [OT] reveals to us [if we can believe the bible], that God, our creator, has manifested himself, many times, and in many differing forms.

e.g.
God was manifest to men, in the form of a man, in the person of Jesus.
God is referred to as a 'father', in that God [the spirit] is our 'father'/creator.
I am told [by scripture] that God is a spirit being/entity.    ....and yet [even though i know that God is], my human mind is unable to comprehend what 'spirit' is.

The Bible [OT] reveals to us, that;
God manifested himself as an embodied person [walking] in the Garden of Eden.
God manifested himself as a person [as a human being who ate food], to Abraham.
God manifested himself as a voice in burning bush, to Moses - Exodus 3.
God manifested himself "by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire," - Exodus 13.
God manifested himself as an embodied person in the midst of the burning fiery furnace - Daniel 3.


The God of creation is not limited, in how he can manifest himself [to us].


wally1,

Many people today say, that only a very gullible person can believe, that what the bible says, is essentially true.

And most of those people, have that opinion, without testing the bible themselves.    [.....without reading the bible themselves]

And most of those people, have that opinion, imo, because they are willing to be 'led to knowledge' by others [....by other men].



1 Corinthians 1:26
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:


1 Corinthians 1:21
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.


Psalms 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.


Psalms 25:14
The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.


Psalms 51:10
Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
11  Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.






wally1,

Your diagram is wasted upon me, as i do not 'believe' in the stricture of a 'God-head' Trinity.

For me, God is a spirit being [and he exists in a form, that i am unable to comprehend or understand].

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

AaLF wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 9:15am:

Allah (Himself) is Witness that there is no Allah save Him. And the angels and the men of learning too are witness. Maintaining His creation in justice, there is no Allah save Him the Almighty, the Wise. Lo! religion with Allah is 'the Surrender' (to His Will and Guidance). Those who (formerly) received the Scripture differed only after knowledge came unto them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso disbelieveth the revelations of Allah will find that lo! Allah is swift at reckoning. And if they argue with thee, (O Muhammad), say: I have surrendered my purpose to Allah and so have those who follow me. And say unto those who have received the Scripture and those who read not: Have ye (too) surrendered? If they surrender, then truly they are rightly guided, and if they turn away, then it is thy duty only to convey the message (unto them). Allah is Seer of (His) bondmen. QURAN 3:18-20

This is why Mohammed was regarded as a meshuggeh , a fool, by the Jews (he was trying to impress them).

Moses brought the same message, heed YHWH's law. But that didn't mean surrender to Moses.
Jesus, ditto, god is love, the law is for love, the law is made for man, not man for the law.

With Mohammed, it's all arse-over head: surrender to Allah (ie what Mo says) and don't you worry about thinking for yourself about the law, nor about all that love one another and the kingdom's within stuff. Just do as Mo says. He's been taking dictation from God's secretary, Gabriel (the semi-literate's fetish for texts and the written, black-letter law).


No wonder he was regarded as a mesugeh, then and now.


'By their fruits ye shall know them' - well, looking at Mohammed's fruits in the world, Islam has been an unmitigated disaster.

|dev|null wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 5:08pm:

You do realise that this is a discussion about religious faith, don't you?

You do realise wally 2 that I KNOW NO god exists. I have stated this very clearly on this forum before.


|dev|null wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 5:08pm:

Oh, the sweet irony!

It is, is it not you ignorant moronic glyph drongo.

PS are you a relation Ssor Brain's.

Now, why don't you answer the questions I posed?

You Soren & your christian mate Yadda are both extremely rude & arrogant people unable to conduct a conversation in a polite manner.  Try & make an effort old chap.

This 'freedom' (from God) that you profess is NOT from Jesus (Peace be upon him) but from Paul.  I think the sermon on the Mount explains Jesus clearly.  You WILL obey God's Laws.  All must do the "Will" of your Father in Heaven'.   This is the "Islam" "The Surrender" to the Will of God.
Your Lord's Prayer says - "Thy Will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven".  How?  Surrendering your 'free will' and obeying ALLAH's Laws.  The correct response is "We hear and We obey."  Not "Freeeedom!!"  That's the devil's making.

So that brings us all to the 'Good News'.  The Kingdom of God.  And what is the Kingdom of God?  Precisely what Jesus & the O.T. told you and now what the Qur'an is telling you.  'Surrendering your free Will to God and obeying him'.
And to make it easier for the people to 'hear and obey' we have been ordered to establish God's Law (Islamic Sharia) over all the Earth by force.  The Kingdom of God has Laws like all kingdoms.  And those laws must be obeyed.
QUR'AN: Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

That last part is for the stubborn ones like Soren & Yadda.  Those who wish to please God will submit to His Will.

And more good news.  The First World Caliph will be our Jesus (peace be upon him) when he returns to kill your 'Man-God', Mr. Charisma, the Anti-Christ.

Please discuss things in a civil manner.  If not, I have been ordered by God to leave the gathering. 

AaLF wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 8:59pm:

I have been ordered by God to leave

Go my son, now please.

AaLF wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 8:59pm:

You Soren & your christian mate Yadda are both extremely rude & arrogant people

Not nearly as 'rude' as the Muslims who have been killing Christians and Jews (what's left of them) in the 'Muslim lands' for decades. Killing them, mind you, as a matter of Muslim doctrine an principle. Not just being 'rude' to them.

You are a Muslim in the West and you have ZERO fear for your life and property. This in not something the Copt of Egypt can say. So please, I invite you most politely and humbly to stick this fake and po-faced indignation about 'rudeness up your sharia-compliant arse.

You have no right to call anyone in this country rude while your co-religionists are murdering not just each other but Christians and Jews wherever they find them. When you are treated like you treat Christians are treated by Muslims in Egypt, you can talk about rudeness. Until then, up yours, Ahmed, you are a rude hypocrite.

Allah wants you to know that you are talking sh!te.  I am doing Allah's work for you, of course. Insh'allah.

AaLF wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 8:59pm:

QUR'AN: [b]Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful

Allah AND his Messenger made lawful???

So how do you tell the difference between the things of Allah and the things of Mohammed? (other than in the realm of ... ahem ... diddling under-age girls, clearly one of Mohamed's laws).
Obviously Allah told him that i's OK to be an old goat with 9 wives to still desire a 9 year old girl. Allah doesn't want this for every 50 year old but because Mohammed had the uncontrollables, Allah said, yeah, well, whatcha gonna do about this guy? He's got a hard-on that needs a 10 gals to minister to and he carries my message of kill all who resist, so what's a 9 year old between a God and his messenger??

A marvellous final message from god, isn't it - the goat gets the girl. Cosmic meaning of the world, the final word.


Ridiculous and tragic.

AaLF wrote on Oct 24^th, 2013 at 9:15am:

Allah (Himself) is Witness that there is no Allah save Him. And the angels and the men of learning too are witness. Maintaining His creation in justice, there is no Allah save Him the Almighty, the Wise. Lo! religion with Allah is 'the Surrender' (to His Will and Guidance). Those who (formerly) received the Scripture differed only after knowledge came unto them, through transgression among themselves. Whoso disbelieveth the revelations of Allah will find that lo! Allah is swift at reckoning. And if they argue with thee, (O Muhammad), say: I have surrendered my purpose to Allah and so have those who follow me. And say unto those who have received the Scripture and those who read not: Have ye (too) surrendered? If they surrender, then truly they are rightly guided, and if they turn away, then it is thy duty only to convey the message (unto them). Allah is Seer of (His) bondmen. QURAN 3:18-20

AaLF,

I'm still not clear on this.

Moslems TAKE TO THEMSELVES the authority to 'righteously' kill those, who resist the will of,    ...moslems.

Where does the authority, for moslems [to enforce Allah's will] come from ?

The inerrent Koran ???




AaLF,

The Koran 3:18-20 declares;
"Allah (Himself) is Witness that there is no Allah save Him."

AND;

"And if they argue with thee, (O Muhammad), say:..."


So, Koran 3:18-20 declares; Allah's authority is self evident, AND, that men must obey Mohammed [coz, Mohammed claims he [Mohammed] has surrendered to Allah's will] ?



+++


This is how ISLAMIC 'logic' works....


Moslems will declare;

"Mohammed was a prophet of God."

Q. Who said so?

A. Well, God told Mohammed.    And then Mohammed told us. [....and that is how Mohammed and we moslems, got the Koran too,   ....straight from Allah!]



Q. But why should we believe what Mohammed said to us?

A. Because Mohammed was a prophet of God, silly.




Debating moslems about the authority of ISLAM [and the subsequent and consequential need for all of unbelieving mankind to surrender to the will of the moslem], is a 'debate' in circular reasoning.







+++



To believe that ISLAM is Allah's perfect religion, we are compelled to accept as true, the utterances of ONE single man, a self professed brigand, a murderer, a rapist, a pirate, a deceiver, a thief.



ISLAM in its entirety, is based upon the confidence [of moslems] in the utterances of >>one<< man, Mohammed.

The death cult of ISLAM is a false 'religion'.

ISLAM walks in this world, hiding behind a veil of lies and deception - as its 'shield' [and using intimidation and extreme violence - as its sword].

ISLAM is entirely, imo, an edifice of falsehood, duplicity, lies, intimidation and extreme violence.

And each and every one of those 'attributes' of ISLAM, remain wholly unacknowledged by every moslem on the planet.


IMO, we have 2 conflicting circumstances;

1/ ISLAM = = the society of moslems.

2/ And yet all moslems, abroad in the world, deny their own accountability [as moslems], for the criminal and violent behaviour of members of their own community.

A 'mainstream' moslem = = is a person who is a member of a group/community of persons, and who embrace a violent political philosophy [which portrays itself as a justice-based 'religious' philosophy], but which encourages intimidation and extreme violence as 'acts of religious faith', against persons who do not believe as they believe.



Go here, to understand how all 'mainstream' moslems 'conduct themselves' -
whenever they are,
1/ empowered and,
2/ unrestrained; --->

Egypt's most prominent 'mainstream' moslem, Morsi
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1382573406/0#0







Above, i said/claim that ISLAM is a death cult ???

On what basis ?


ISLAMIC law....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."



AND;

FROM THE SUNNA OF MOHAMMED

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260





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Wake up people!

There are no, there cannot be any, 'moderate' moslems.

BECAUSE THERE IS NO MODERATE ISLAM!

A 'moderate' moslem, is a mythical creature.


ISLAM is a violent, deceitful, lying, death cult.

1)  John 20:17 "...Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my father and your father, to my God  and your God."

Jesus indicating that he has a God, and that his relationship to God is similar to the relationship of common people with God.  God does not have a God, and would not tell others that his relationship with God is similar to theirs.

2)  Luke 18:19  "'Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered.  'No one is good--except God alone."

Jesus says a) he is not good, and b) God alone   is good.  If Jesus were God he would not differentiate himself from God by stating that he is not good and only God alone  is.

3)  John 17:3  "Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only  true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."

This verse clearly shows two separate entities - a)  the "only true God" AND b) Jesus Christ (who was sent by the only true God.)  Only the one who sent Jesus is the true God, meaning Jesus himself can't be God. 

Aalf, would you describe freedom, democracy and human rights as the "doctrines of man"?

wally1 wrote on Oct 25^th, 2013 at 9:32pm:

1)  John 20:17 "...Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my father and your father, to my God  and your God." Jesus indicating that he has a God, and that his relationship to God is similar to the relationship of common people with God.  God does not have a God, and would not tell others that his relationship with God is similar to theirs.

Jesus the man, the example to men, Jesus the servant.





Quote:

2)  Luke 18:19  "'Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered.  'No one is good--except God alone." Jesus says a) he is not good, and b) God alone   is good.  If Jesus were God he would not differentiate himself from God by stating that he is not good and only God alone  is.

God alone is good.

John 10:36
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37  If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38  But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.







Quote:

3)  John 17:3  "Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only  true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." This verse clearly shows two separate entities - a)  the "only true God" AND b) Jesus Christ (who was sent by the only true God.)  Only the one who sent Jesus is the true God, meaning Jesus himself can't be God.

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Hosea 13:4
Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.

John 14:8
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9  Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?i

wally1,

Does the moslem submit himself to God,    .....or, does the moslem submit himself to the demand for obedience, coming from men [within the ummah] ?



Habakkuk 2:4
Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.

2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.






Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
40  For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
41  If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
42  I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.
43  Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.


Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:



Is that word, Israel, a stumbling-block for the moslem ?

Is the hatred within you so deep, that you will never turn from it ?







Hated, Zion ?

Romans 9:33
As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.