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Title: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by Maqqa on Oct 30th, 2013 at 8:53pm
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/19602259/australias-emissions-reduction-target-inadequate-climate-change-authority-report/
The Federal Government's independent climate policy adviser has declared Australia's emissions reduction target inadequate and not credible. In a draft report on emissions reduction targets, the Climate Change Authority says Australia's commitment to cutting emissions by 5 per cent from 2000 levels by 2020 would leave Australia lagging behind other comparable countries like the United States. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by Maqqa on Oct 30th, 2013 at 8:55pm
So 5% is inadequate??
For what? Reducing Global Warming??!! Even if Australia reduced it's emission by 100% - it's would not reduce global temperature |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by The Thinking Mans Grappler on Oct 30th, 2013 at 9:02pm
Climate Change Farce an Authority!
I infinitely preferred the days when such things were rightly called commissions - they were commissioned to do the job on behalf of Her Maj on behalf of The People as Sovereign - not handed some strange Central European title of Ordnung!! carrying with it all the misconception of POWER over all within its purview!! Of course the targets were always going to be unattainable, and in any case are totally swamped by the endless burn-offs of rain forest (orang utan habitat) in Indonesia (free fire zone to spot potential boat people?) and of course our trading partner, China with its quazzillions of of stacks spewing Carbon gas into Mother Air....... |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by MOTR on Oct 31st, 2013 at 4:13am Maqqa wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 8:55pm:
We all know those people who hose wash their cars during water restrictions. The ones who justify their gross stupidity by arguing that their actions alone don't make any significant difference. Well next time you see someone like that and have an overwhelming urge to punch them in the face, feel free, chances are it's probably Maqqa. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by cods on Oct 31st, 2013 at 5:48am MOTR wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 4:13am:
so VIOLENCE IS THE ANSWER? do you still shower in a bucket MOTR??... or have you ev er done so anyway?.. I read where our rubbish has more or less doubled since we have become ecowise.. ::) ::) landfill has shot up...now please dont tell me that all because of sceptics?...... just because we question the science .. doesnt mean we are slobs and dont do our share... and I am sick of those that think like that. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by MOTR on Oct 31st, 2013 at 6:20am cods wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 5:48am:
It was a figurative expression, cods. I'm not actually advocating we punch Maqqa in the face. But distract away, cods. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by True Blue... on Oct 31st, 2013 at 6:26am Maqqa wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 8:55pm:
300 Billion Dollars in Debt and nothing to show for it along with sky high utility bills even though we have all of the coal, gas and uranium... Australian power needs should be for free... over the past 15 years the temperature hasn't changed with only a difference of .083 of one degree... even though, the industrious world has increased by billions of people punching out more and more carbon dioxide... the evidence is there people... man made global warming is a lie... |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by BlOoDy RiPpEr on Oct 31st, 2013 at 6:41am MOTR wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 4:13am:
Some people have short memories, I still remember some old bloke who was punched in the face and died because he was using a hose, but as it turned out he was using his hose on a day he was allowed too. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by longweekend58 on Oct 31st, 2013 at 6:58am MOTR wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 4:13am:
we had to use a bucket during restrictions. it used more water than a hose and so most people still used a hose... on the lawn. during the worst of the drought Mildura had green parks and green verges and green lawns because everyone used murray water in blatant violation of the restrictions - including the council. I washed my car with a hose. no regrets. I especially washed my car with a hose when the drought was over, the reervoirs were full and literally overflowing but the BoM declared we were still in a drought. maybe they should have looked out the window. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by cods on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:02am MOTR wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 6:20am:
REALLY???.. THATS NOT THE WAY IT READS... AND MACCA ISNT EVERYWHERE.. BUT WE ARE USED TO MEANINGLESS EXCUSES. FOR LEFTY BEHAVIOUR. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by cods on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:07am BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 6:41am:
ME TOO.... I thin k the guy that killed him had a great excuse as well.... ::) ::) dont they always have a GREAT EXCUSE FOR THEIR DREADFUL BEHAVIOR? and of course she assumes macca is the only one that would ever dare use a hose to wash his car... no true believer would ever do that or use a carwash that probably wastes more than a hose would anyway... they kid themselves.. but it works for them. ::) ::) just stop pointing the ugly finger without proof.. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:26am
How long did Prof. Flannery say it would take for there to be any effect on global temperatures if Australia cut its emissions to zero today? Wasn't it something like a thousand years or so? ::)
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Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by cods on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:29am Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:26am:
well if you want the truth... he didnt kn ow did he??.. it was a lucky guess.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D him and Al Gore and Bob Brown..what a trio... not one of them has made a correct prediction...LOL.. but they all put PANIC ON THE STREETS.. we were also going to go down the gurgle by 2013...and Sydney would be a dessert.. all whilst those guys were flying here there and everywhere.. ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by chicken_lipsforme on Oct 31st, 2013 at 8:54am Maqqa wrote on Oct 30th, 2013 at 8:55pm:
True. The 2% that Australia supposedly contributes to the planets climate change wont matter a cracker if the percentage was 0%. The climate change authority are whistling in the wind on this one. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by longweekend58 on Oct 31st, 2013 at 9:01am
I remember the absolute farce of BoM declaring that SA was still in a drought after the wettest winter in decades and with spectacular timing made this pronouncement during 48 hours of continual very heavy rain in Adelaide.
It made them look very silly. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by chicken_lipsforme on Oct 31st, 2013 at 9:15am longweekend58 wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 9:01am:
Yes, I remember that, however the BOM has never had an issue with looking silly. I also remember the expected prediction that's made each year by the BOM haruspex wailing into his bucket of cows intestines, that the north of the country will see more cyclones and of increasing severity. And we wait, wait, and wait some more. I suppose statistically speaking that if it's said for long enough, one day it might actually happen. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by FriYAY on Oct 31st, 2013 at 11:42am longweekend58 wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 6:58am:
Perhaps you’ll be kind enough to supply some proof on this? Mildura was as dry as a nun’s ****. Dead laws, dead nature strips, the park down the road was dead And just how TF did people get “Murray Water”? Run pumps and hoses from the dam river? Even road crews, the trotting track, had to fill up their water trucks at a water station that was pumping ground water. But hey, I only live here, what would I know….. :) |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by longweekend58 on Oct 31st, 2013 at 12:11pm FriYAY wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 11:42am:
obviously not in the town itself. it was a running joke around a lot of SA and vic how you drove in to see the stage 3 restrictions signs while the council was watering the median strips during the middle of a summer day. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by MOTR on Oct 31st, 2013 at 4:51pm cods wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:02am:
Of course Maqqa isn't everywhere, cods, it's not as if I'm going to go around whacking every prick who ignores water restrictions on the off chance he's Maqqa. ;) Now, how about you address the argument, cods. What do you think of people who ignore water restrictions because they think their contribution to the problem is insignificant? |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by progressiveslol on Oct 31st, 2013 at 5:32pm MOTR wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 4:51pm:
That they are right. He says to himself with out being rude to a complete moron from the greens "there is an industry(china) down the road that uses more clean, fresh, drinkable water in a day, than our whole neighbourhood would in 12 months" |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by cods on Oct 31st, 2013 at 5:45pm MOTR wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 4:51pm:
I will be perfectly honest with you my dear... I havent seen anyone ABUSE THE RULES OF WATER RESTRICTIONS.... and I do not take someone elses word that they are doing so.. what I THINK btw doesnt change a bloody thing... I am sorry I am not one of these people that sits their bum on a wooden bench every Sunday and thinks that by doing so I am saving someones soul.. I do not believe MONEY will change the climate that has been changing for millions of years either.. we are not allowed to save the rain because we would have to dig a hole in the ground.. ::) so let it all go to waste or most of it..and then point the finger at some darstardly person that dares to wash his car with a hose. once in the blue moon..... I think more about the dumb arse people that stop the building of dams...for the future.. if they think stopping someone using a hose.. will make the water we have saved stretch further... ::) ::) then that thinking is bizarre. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by cods on Oct 31st, 2013 at 5:49pm FriYAY wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 11:42am:
people were bathing in buckets and ACT was as green as could be.. the automatic sprinklers were changed to work in the early hours...often one would see water pouring down the gutters... but that ok... the triangle is a protected species did you know Embassies are exempt from any restrictions whatever?? |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by philperth2010 on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:37pm
Just so you know where the water is used!!!
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I also remember reading somewhere that we lose about 30% of our water assets through evaporation and poor water management!!! >:( >:( >:( |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by Maqqa on Oct 31st, 2013 at 9:08pm
For those who wants to know about water usage - it's not that difficult to Google
http://www.tja.org.au/index.php/tja/article/view/90/658 ![]() |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by MOTR on Nov 1st, 2013 at 1:55am cods wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 5:45pm:
Struggling to follow your argument, cods. Are you saying you don't have a major problem with people ignoring water restrictions. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by Andrei.Hicks on Nov 1st, 2013 at 2:09am
Most of our street in Armadale watered all the way through the restrictions.
Let's be honest a few nights per week on our gardens were hardly going to empty the fricken dams were they. I watered mine and Carl and Steve (either side) said nothing and they did theirs and I said nothing. Neighbours in Armadale. Costello-country - as we like to call Higgins. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by MOTR on Nov 1st, 2013 at 3:54am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 2:09am:
Not so if everyone thinks the same way. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by Andrei.Hicks on Nov 1st, 2013 at 4:11am
Tell that to China and India.
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Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by MOTR on Nov 1st, 2013 at 6:28am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 4:11am:
India and China are doing more than us. The problem is that there are free riders like you in every country. Not a problem when it's just you and your mates in Costello County, but a catastrophic problem when a whole chunk of you think the same way. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by Generation X on Nov 1st, 2013 at 7:01am FriYAY wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 11:42am:
Adelaide dams are at full capacity. Farmers dams on the fleurieu peninsula are all full. Flinders Ranges have had good rain a few times during spring which has been unheard of for the last 10 years. 2 weeks ago the gates have been opened up stream of the Murray, the mouth now has a higher concentration of fresh water. I'd say SA is looking great! The climate has changed once again ;D |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by longweekend58 on Nov 1st, 2013 at 7:24am philperth2010 wrote on Oct 31st, 2013 at 7:37pm:
Medindie lakes suffers from massive evaporation. Howard signed contracts for $400M for earthworks to reduce this evaporation by 80%. Rudd cancelled them and subsequently did nothing about it. So the water continues to evaporate when it could be going down the murray. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by Generation X on Nov 1st, 2013 at 7:30am longweekend58 wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 7:24am:
You lie!!!!!!! Rudd built unused Desal plants for way higher costs :D |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 1st, 2013 at 7:31am De-registered User wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 7:30am:
Okay, so Rudd did nothing USEFUL... |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by longweekend58 on Nov 1st, 2013 at 7:50am De-registered User wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 7:30am:
yeah... forgot that! |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by Armchair_Politician on Nov 1st, 2013 at 7:51am longweekend58 wrote on Nov 1st, 2013 at 7:50am:
Just like Labor did in Sydney - costs a small fortune now for Sydney residents to turn on their taps. |
Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by True Blue... on Nov 2nd, 2013 at 5:44am
Labor in Victoria blew hundreds of millions on a pipe line that just collects dust and also 25 Billion + on a desal plant we don't need..
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Title: Re: Climate Change Authority a farce Post by True Blue... on Nov 2nd, 2013 at 5:48am
mind you...
they refused to build a cheap dam down in gipsland in an area where it's been prone to flooding... the Global scare mongers convinced Labor that it would never rain again and that a dam would be a waste of money.. since them the township has flooded twice and the river flows as good as its always done... the dam could have saved millions in flood repairs and given us billions of litres of fresh water to use... but instead.. Labor/Greens would rather we drink our own sewerage.. :-/ |
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