Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan.

The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to.

red baron wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 6:23pm:

Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to.

Could have been Abbott.

That's worse.

In EVERY way.

Kat wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 7:12pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:23pm: Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to. Could have been Abbott. That's worse. In EVERY way.

I would wager that if Tony Abbott saved the life of a young child who was drowning in the surf at a beach and would surely have died if not for his help, you'd still find some way of criticising him for it. You're pathetic.

red baron wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 6:23pm:

Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to.

At least he went there to honour them!!  ... all you do with your little tantrum is to dishonour the soldiers.

grow up you sad case.

John Smith wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 9:32pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:23pm: Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to. At least he went there to honour them!!  ... all you do with your little tantrum is to dishonour the soldiers. grow up you sad case.

Unlike Gillard, who made an attempt at political point scoring over Abbott going when she was PM. That was poor form, even for her.

Shorten will have plenty of opportunities to show a public face on behalf of the ALP for the simple reason that Abbott is absent.

Shorten is an opportunist and he will get the publicity that Abbott is going to such great lengths to avoid.

Abbott needs to come out of hiding.

red baron wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 6:23pm:

Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to.

Only a grub like the Baron would choose to politicise an elected official paying respect to our soldiers.

red baron wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 6:23pm:

Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to.

a book has been written on what happened in Australia during WW11.. on the waterfront..

how bastardry was the order of the day on the docks during the war which affected our men at the front... on more than one occasion.

all at the command of the UNION...

shorty... ho hum another man of INTEGRITY. ::)

mantra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 6:51am:

Shorten will have plenty of opportunities to show a public face on behalf of the ALP for the simple reason that Abbott is absent. Shorten is an opportunist and he will get the publicity that Abbott is going to such great lengths to avoid. Abbott needs to come out of hiding.

thats funny it really is... RUDD WAS NEVER HERE HE WAS ALWAYS OVERSEAS...

Abbott has been at least fighting fires....

oh thats right I keep forgetting ..

he should be out there shaking hands and doing selfies..

much more appropriate..

what is it with lefties.. if he had his mug on TV every day they  would be screaming...



maybe he should be BACK STABBING someone

another thing that lefites like...  ::) ::) ::)

cods wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

mantra wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 6:51am: Shorten will have plenty of opportunities to show a public face on behalf of the ALP for the simple reason that Abbott is absent. Shorten is an opportunist and he will get the publicity that Abbott is going to such great lengths to avoid. Abbott needs to come out of hiding. thats funny it really is... RUDD WAS NEVER HERE HE WAS ALWAYS OVERSEAS... Abbott has been at least fighting fires.... oh thats right I keep forgetting .. he should be out there shaking hands and doing selfies.. much more appropriate.. what is it with lefties.. if he had his mug on TV every day they  would be screaming... maybe he should be BACK STABBING someone another thing that lefites like...  ::) ::) ::)

100% well said!

cods wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 7:11am:

thats funny it really is... RUDD WAS NEVER HERE HE WAS ALWAYS OVERSEAS... Abbott has been at least fighting fires.... oh thats right I keep forgetting .. he should be out there shaking hands and doing selfies.. much more appropriate.. what is it with lefties.. if he had his mug on TV every day they  would be screaming... maybe he should be BACK STABBING someone another thing that lefites like...  ::) ::) ::)

Let's be realistic Cods. Abbott is supposed to be the face of Australia. If he doesn't want to be that, because he's basically an introvert, then others will take his spot in the limelight.

People want to know what's going on and if they don't know the facts - they will speculate.

Look what happened to Rudd because he was always overseas.

mantra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 7:21am:

cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 7:11am: thats funny it really is... RUDD WAS NEVER HERE HE WAS ALWAYS OVERSEAS... Abbott has been at least fighting fires.... oh thats right I keep forgetting .. he should be out there shaking hands and doing selfies.. much more appropriate.. what is it with lefties.. if he had his mug on TV every day they  would be screaming... maybe he should be BACK STABBING someone another thing that lefites like...  ::) ::) ::) Let's be realistic Cods. Abbott is supposed to be the face of Australia. If he doesn't want to be that, because he's basically an introvert, then others will take his spot in the limelight. People want to know what's going on and if they don't know the facts - they will speculate. Look what happened to Rudd because he was always overseas.

come on mantra... its been 6 weeks not 6 years.. for goodness sake you are looking for ANYTHING...its not just you.. but look at the pathetic complaints lefties are coming up with..

I dont see anyone complaining about Obama not being on the front pages every day..

whats with you guys..are you so desperate for failure you now say because he hasnt been on TV every day... hes not being a PM>. ::)

I saw one pic of him witha group at the fires.. and out they came and called him  all sorts of names.someone even suggested he should be shaking hands or sitting behind a desk.. thats what PMs do..


you know as well as I do... Kevins TRAVEL wasnt the reason people didnt vote for him..


be realistic..

mantra wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 7:21am:

cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 7:11am: thats funny it really is... RUDD WAS NEVER HERE HE WAS ALWAYS OVERSEAS... Abbott has been at least fighting fires.... oh thats right I keep forgetting .. he should be out there shaking hands and doing selfies.. much more appropriate.. what is it with lefties.. if he had his mug on TV every day they  would be screaming... maybe he should be BACK STABBING someone another thing that lefites like...  ::) ::) ::) Let's be realistic Cods. Abbott is supposed to be the face of Australia. If he doesn't want to be that, because he's basically an introvert, then others will take his spot in the limelight. People want to know what's going on and if they don't know the facts - they will speculate. Look what happened to Rudd because he was always overseas.

That happened because he came home...

The Heartless Felon wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 7:32am:

mantra wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 7:21am: cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 7:11am: thats funny it really is... RUDD WAS NEVER HERE HE WAS ALWAYS OVERSEAS... Abbott has been at least fighting fires.... oh thats right I keep forgetting .. he should be out there shaking hands and doing selfies.. much more appropriate.. what is it with lefties.. if he had his mug on TV every day they  would be screaming... maybe he should be BACK STABBING someone another thing that lefites like...  ::) ::) ::) Let's be realistic Cods. Abbott is supposed to be the face of Australia. If he doesn't want to be that, because he's basically an introvert, then others will take his spot in the limelight. People want to know what's going on and if they don't know the facts - they will speculate. Look what happened to Rudd because he was always overseas. That happened because he came home...

naughty...lol

red baron wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 6:23pm:

Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to.

I fail to see what is sickening about honouring our soldiers.  They were given a difficult job to do and did it very well.

Sh!t happens Baron.....At least Bill Shorten did not dishonour an Australian digger by trivialising his death!!!

>:( >:( >:(

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 8:01pm:

Kat wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 7:12pm: red baron wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:23pm: Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to. Could have been Abbott. That's worse. In EVERY way. I would wager that if Tony Abbott saved the life of a young child who was drowning in the surf at a beach and would surely have died if not for his help, you'd still find some way of criticising him for it.

Well ...
SH!T HAPPENS !

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/1935142-3x2-940x627.jpg

cods wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 7:07am:

red baron wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:23pm: Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to. a book has been written on what happened in Australia during WW11.. on the waterfront.. how bastardry was the order of the day on the docks during the war which affected our men at the front... on more than one occasion. all at the command of the UNION... shorty... ho hum another man of INTEGRITY. ::)

Pig Iron Bob!!!

::) ::) ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 8:20am:

cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 7:07am: red baron wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:23pm: Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to. a book has been written on what happened in Australia during WW11.. on the waterfront.. how bastardry was the order of the day on the docks during the war which affected our men at the front... on more than one occasion. all at the command of the UNION... shorty... ho hum another man of INTEGRITY. ::) Pig Iron Bob!!! ::) ::) ::)

JOHN CURTIN ACTUALLY.

Frances wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 7:50am:

red baron wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:23pm: Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to. I fail to see what is sickening about honouring our soldiers.  They were given a difficult job to do and did it very well.

that is true of course... I get annoyed when conflict becomes point scoring..but shorty does have a history with Unions.. and they have not always done the right thing..by our forces overseas..

there was a time when the Unions almost ran this country.bill will always be associated with unions..its the way it is.

cods wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 8:42am:

Frances wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 7:50am: red baron wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:23pm: Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to. I fail to see what is sickening about honouring our soldiers.  They were given a difficult job to do and did it very well. that is true of course... I get annoyed when conflict becomes point scoring..but shorty does have a history with Unions.. and they have not always done the right thing..by our forces overseas.. there was a time when the Unions almost ran this country.bill will always be associated with unions..its the way it is.

Yet you do it anyway.....

::) ::) ::)

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 9:26am:

cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:42am: Frances wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 7:50am: red baron wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:23pm: Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to. I fail to see what is sickening about honouring our soldiers.  They were given a difficult job to do and did it very well. that is true of course... I get annoyed when conflict becomes point scoring..but shorty does have a history with Unions.. and they have not always done the right thing..by our forces overseas.. there was a time when the Unions almost ran this country.bill will always be associated with unions..its the way it is. Yet you do it anyway..... ::) ::) ::)

link please.... I know you dont tell untruths???

Frances wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 7:50am:

red baron wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:23pm: Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to. I fail to see what is sickening about honouring our soldiers.  They were given a difficult job to do and did it very well.

I agree!

In fact, what I find "sickening", are some of the comments on this thread, from both sides of the Political divide, which appear to be the usual Political points scoring and I would think that honoring our soldiers should be beyond that.

But, more than that, some of these comments are outright DIS-honors to the memory of our armed service personnel, who have represented all of us in overseas missions.

In general, I have no problem with Political points scoring, although it is generally a waste of time, as it isn't going to achieve what is needed in the longer term, But I do find the attempted linkage between "Political Leaders", from both major party's, with those who have died & been injured whilst doing their duty on our behalf, as particularly repugnant!

I would suggest the appropriate course for this thread, is that it should simply "wither on the vine", so to speak.

Frances, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with honouring Soldiers. AS a returned serviceman I think I have the right to say, it depends on who is doing the honouring.

Tony Abbott, fine, he has a clean slate and has  done plenty for the Community away from Politics...his RFS Work, His Life Saving work, his work with the Aboriginals (the latter largely unrecognised)

Like  I said, no respecting solider would recognise  a Union thug spilling out platitudes...Shorten's background is dark and sinister everything from impregnating his secretary to heavying in the Union movement.

What has he done for the Community? Anything at all?

No...he is like Julia Gillard, totally self serving. He would have seen the Afghanistan thing as a photo opportunity. He is going to turn out far worse than Gillard and Rudd. His background will catch up with him, mark my words.

red baron wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 11:02am:

Frances, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with honouring Soldiers. AS a returned serviceman I think I have the right to say, it depends on who is doing the honouring. Tony Abbott, fine, he has a clean slate and has  done plenty for the Community away from Politics...his RFS Work, His Life Saving work, his work with the Aboriginals (the latter largely unrecognised) Like  I said, no respecting solider would recognise  a Union thug spilling out platitudes...Shorten's background is dark and sinister everything from impregnating his secretary to heavying in the Union movement. What has he done for the Community? Anything at all? No...he is like Julia Gillard, totally self serving. He would have seen the Afghanistan thing as a photo opportunity. He is going to turn out far worse than Gillard and Rudd. His background will catch up with him, mark my words.

Get over yourself Baron, there is an expectation the leader of the two major parties would be there.

If he didnt show you would claim he snubbed them.

His actions while on this duty where what you would expect.  He didnt say anything out of turn, nor did his actions.

You dont like the guy, thats fine, but try point scoring when he does stuff up otherwise you look like a partisan hack.

red baron wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 6:23pm:

Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to.

It's always embarrassing when the pollies come around and try to make small talk with the diggers.

You know, you stand there and give them a go, but they're always desperate to get away.

Abbott's "sh!t happens" line was a good example of a pollie trying to be one of the boys.

That's right, son. Sh!t happens. Politicans like you send men like me to the jungle or the desert to fight some non-existent enemy and then lose because you don't know who they are. Sh!t happens alright.

Maybe one day the pollies will have an ah-ha moment and decide to use the Australian Defense Force for, you know, defense.

I'm not holding my breath though.

Sh!t happens.

red baron wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 11:02am:

Frances, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with honouring Soldiers. AS a returned serviceman I think I have the right to say, it depends on who is doing the honouring. Tony Abbott, fine, he has a clean slate and has  done plenty for the Community away from Politics...his RFS Work, His Life Saving work, his work with the Aboriginals (the latter largely unrecognised)

Oh, bugger off, Red. Abbott's a garden-variety political schemer down there with the worst of them.

I don't know about the Air Force, son, but soldiers couldn't give a sh!t which pollies come around trying to be pals.

We hate them all.

red baron wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 11:02am:

Frances, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with honouring Soldiers. AS a returned serviceman I think I have the right to say, it depends on who is doing the honouring. Tony Abbott, fine, he has a clean slate and has  done plenty for the Community away from Politics...his RFS Work, His Life Saving work, his work with the Aboriginals (the latter largely unrecognised) Like  I said, no respecting solider would recognise  a Union thug spilling out platitudes...Shorten's background is dark and sinister everything from impregnating his secretary to heavying in the Union movement. What has he done for the Community? Anything at all? No...he is like Julia Gillard, totally self serving. He would have seen the Afghanistan thing as a photo opportunity. He is going to turn out far worse than Gillard and Rudd. His background will catch up with him, mark my words.

your rant is a poor reflection on you, not on Shorten. Pathetic

Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 1:45pm:

red baron wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 11:02am: Frances, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with honouring Soldiers. AS a returned serviceman I think I have the right to say, it depends on who is doing the honouring. Tony Abbott, fine, he has a clean slate and has  done plenty for the Community away from Politics...his RFS Work, His Life Saving work, his work with the Aboriginals (the latter largely unrecognised) Oh, bugger off, Red. Abbott's a garden-variety political schemer down there with the worst of them. I don't know about the Air Force, son, but soldiers couldn't give a sh!t which pollies come around trying to be pals. We hate them all.

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN THE FIRING LINE???

for the life of me I cannot imagin e it. ::)

but I would think our men an d women fighting evil for us.... would think it great that someone thought enough of them to visit and say THANK YOU on behalf of everyone of us who would never have the opportunity to do it personally...

and as far as I care the PM should do that job...

if not its the GG.. and I prefer the PM of the day thank you..

I would think it would be a special moment for them... those at home havent forgotten them..


most of us wouldnt have a clue what they live with or what they think..

I have never heard of any serviceman complaining about a visit from their Pm..
or leader of the Opposition..

NEVER.

cods wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 8:39am:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 8:20am: cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 7:07am: red baron wrote on Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:23pm: Made me reach for the puke bucket watching Bill Shorten trying to look statesman like in Afghanistan. The sight of that Union thug, turd and hatchetman raving on to true heros rates as the disgusting  moment in Politics this week. Can't get any worse but with Shorten that dirty little thug around it's bound to. a book has been written on what happened in Australia during WW11.. on the waterfront.. how bastardry was the order of the day on the docks during the war which affected our men at the front... on more than one occasion. all at the command of the UNION... shorty... ho hum another man of INTEGRITY. ::) Pig Iron Bob!!! ::) ::) ::) JOHN CURTIN ACTUALLY.

The "Pig Iron Bob" episode (where legal correctness triumphed over common sense) was actually in the lead up to World War II - November 1938 to be precise.

Those were the days when Communists had a considerable influence in some of the blue collar unions unions.  The militancy of the waterfont unions in this era was a response to shocking working conditions and exploitation by employers and substantial numbers of unionists saw the Communist Party rather than the Labor Party as their saviours.  Yes, there was militancy on the wharves and yes, some of the men were not well educated and easily led, but this was not the only reason for delays on the docks - inefficiencies inherent in the casual system of labour, introduced in the wake of the "Dog Collar" Act of 1928 had quite a bit to do with it too.  And the Waterside Workers' Federation actually supported the Stevedoring Industry Commission, when it was set up in 1942 to investigate delays on the wharves.

Nope - withdrew the lot.. sorry......

I have no truck with politicians.  To quote a US 101 trooper:-

"Our hearts are pure, brothers - it's the politicians who've f*cked us all!"

cods wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

as far as I care the PM should do that job... if not its the GG.. and I prefer the PM of the day thank you..

So, are you telling us that it was improper of Tony Abbott to visit our troops in Afghanistan just before Christmas last year?

cods wrote on Nov 4^th, 2013 at 4:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 1:45pm: red baron wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 11:02am: Frances, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with honouring Soldiers. AS a returned serviceman I think I have the right to say, it depends on who is doing the honouring. Tony Abbott, fine, he has a clean slate and has  done plenty for the Community away from Politics...his RFS Work, His Life Saving work, his work with the Aboriginals (the latter largely unrecognised) Oh, bugger off, Red. Abbott's a garden-variety political schemer down there with the worst of them. I don't know about the Air Force, son, but soldiers couldn't give a sh!t which pollies come around trying to be pals. We hate them all. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN THE FIRING LINE??? for the life of me I cannot imagin e it. ::) but I would think our men an d women fighting evil for us.... would think it great that someone thought enough of them to visit and say THANK YOU on behalf of everyone of us who would never have the opportunity to do it personally... and as far as I care the PM should do that job... if not its the GG.. and I prefer the PM of the day thank you.. I would think it would be a special moment for them... those at home havent forgotten them.. most of us wouldnt have a clue what they live with or what they think.. I have never heard of any serviceman complaining about a visit from their Pm.. or leader of the Opposition.. NEVER.

Yeah? Which war were you in?

HAVE I EVER BEEN IN THE FIRING LINE????

Jesus, love, you’ve given me a headache with one post. How does hubbie cope? If he’s not on morphine now, best to get him down to the quack’s for a script quick, poor bloke. He must be in agony.

You can take your PM and your GG and put them in the spare bed with poor old hubbie. If you want to finish him off, that should do it.

Might as well get it over with.

HAVE I EVER BEEN ON THE FIRING LINE?????

Sorry, love, I’ve forgotten the question.