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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1385362580 Message started by Greens_Win on Nov 25th, 2013 at 4:56pm |
Title: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Greens_Win on Nov 25th, 2013 at 4:56pm
Congrats Greens on their massive increase in todays polling.
Poor old conservatives wanting Greens to die must be so depressed. Greens are in a great position since all these voters who have dabbled with conservatism realise their folly and will now come back home to Progressivism. Come home to the Greens |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by pansi1951 on Nov 25th, 2013 at 5:44pm OMG! you wait until Misty sees this. She will be livid....progressive indeed! I saw in the Nielson poll that 78% of people don't think the coalition are doing enough for climate change. Go the Greens! |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2013 at 7:21pm |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Greens_Win on Nov 25th, 2013 at 8:01pm
Things that are not conservative are not all communistic. And communistic is not a bad thing in itself.
Progressivism is a general political philosophy based on the Idea of Progress that asserts that advances in science, technology, economic development, and social organization, can improve the human condition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism Progressivism is everything that conservatism is not. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2013 at 8:32pm ____ wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 8:01pm:
Progressivism is everything that communism is, right down to progressives roots. Stalin. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Greens_Win on Nov 25th, 2013 at 8:35pm progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 8:32pm:
Making a statement void of facts makes it a personal opinion. Don't mine me while I ignore your nonfactual personal opinion. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2013 at 8:40pm ____ wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 8:35pm:
lol yeh like the word progressive. Put a shiny coat on a communist, call it progressive (thanks stalin). |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Greens_Win on Nov 25th, 2013 at 8:47pm
Communism is state controlled. i.e Liberal's Direct Action Policy.
Direct Action is not progressive, it is conservative communism. I used this so to help you understand the difference between Progressive verses Communism, and it's close relation, Abbott's Conservatism. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Stratos on Nov 25th, 2013 at 8:48pm
You've sucked enough of our blood, you vampires, With prison, taxes and poverty! You have all the power, all the blessings of the world
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Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Grendel on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:13pm
Progressivism isn't one side of politics, it exists on both sides of the broad left/right divide, just as Conservatism does.
Change for it's own sake which many progressives tend to embrace these days is in my opinion stupid. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Greens_Win on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:29pm Grendel wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:13pm:
Australia[edit] In the past few years, the term "progressive" has been used in Australia to refer to what used to be called "The Third Way."[citation needed] The term is popular in Australia, and it is often used in place of "social liberal." The term "liberalism" has become associated with free markets and small government; in other words "classical liberalism." Progressivism is used to differentiate between the two-party political system of the classical-economic liberal Liberal Party[citation needed] and the protectionist-working class Labor Party.[citation needed] The Australian Greens represent the third largest political party in the country, polling around 12%[13][14] with 9 senators and one newly elected member of the Australian House of Representatives (elected in the 2010 Australian federal election). The party espouses progressive ideologies, together with grassroots democracy and participatory democracy.[citation needed] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism The Greens are the Progressivism Party. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:36pm ____ wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:29pm:
The Greens are the |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Grendel on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:42pm ____ wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:29pm:
Your point? You do realise the the ALP call themselves The progressive party these days... they've all buy turfed out every conservative in the party. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Grendel on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:43pm
The Greens are the Watermelon party...
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Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Greens_Win on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:48pm Grendel wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:42pm:
Calling oneself progressive while pushing policies that are conservative sends a mixed message. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Greens_Win on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:51pm progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:36pm:
Carbon pricing is a free market mechanism. Direct Action is a communistic scheme. Liberals are a |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Greens_Win on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:53pm Grendel wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:43pm:
Green on the surface and bloody determined progressive people on the inside. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2013 at 10:06pm ____ wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 9:48pm:
Its the ends that justifies the means. You of all people should know that, yet you are confused. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Greens_Win on Nov 25th, 2013 at 10:13pm progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2013 at 10:06pm:
Trickery is a tool one uses to try and fool the voters. Does the means justify the ends, no in the longterm. This is why the Greens annoy the old parties. The Greens don't use trickery. |
Title: Re: Progressivism ~ Alive & Kicking Post by Phallic Baldwin on Nov 26th, 2013 at 8:21pm
I would like Postmodern Trendoids view on this.
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