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Message started by # on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:15am

Title: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by # on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:15am
Tony Abbott's more controversial speeches disappear

December 1, 2013
Bianca Hall

Some of Tony Abbott's most controversial speeches have been airbrushed from Coalition history since the election, including a 2009 speech in which he backed a carbon tax, and a 2004 speech in which he described abortion as "a question of the mother's convenience".

During Mr Abbott's 2009 carbon tax speech, in which he described himself as a "climate change realist", he poured doubt on climate change being man-made, saying: "We can't conclusively say whether man-made carbon dioxide emissions are contributing to climate change."

But he went on to say: "If Australia is greatly to reduce its carbon emissions, the price of carbon-intensive products should rise … a new tax would be the intelligent sceptic's way to deal with minimising emissions."

In opposition, the speeches were posted on Mr Abbott's website, tonyabbott.com.au. But since the September election, that website has redirected to liberal.org.au, which only archives material back to July 2010, the month before the previous election.

Despite Mr Abbott becoming opposition leader on December 1, 2009, all of his speeches and media statements before July 2010 have disappeared.

However, at least two recent transcripts have also been expunged from the public record. They include an interview on Sky with Chris Kenny in March, in which Mr Abbott vowed to lift foreign aid - a position he later reversed - and a speech to conservative think tank the Institute of Public Affairs this year.

In March, Mr Abbott was quizzed about whether he would heed the advice of former finance minister Nick Minchin, who said the Coalition could save billions by freezing growth in foreign aid.

Mr Abbott said: "Well Chris, it's not our policy; our policy, and that of the [then Labor] government, is to lift foreign aid to 0.5 per cent of gross national [income] … It does remain our commitment … We are a generous people, we don't want to be niggardly in respect of our poorer neighbours."

Five months later, the Coalition announced it would cut foreign-aid growth over the forward estimates, saving $4.5 billion.

The next month he gave a speech to the Institute of Public Affairs decrying a "great Australian silence".

"There is a new version of the great Australian silence, this time about the Western canon: the literature, the poetry, the music, the history and, above all, the faith without which our culture and our civilisation is unimaginable," Mr Abbott said.

It was posted on tonyabbott.com.au, but is not available on liberal.org.au. Intriguingly, nor is the government's direct action policy, the cornerstone of its climate-change policy, which has also disappeared from Environment Minister Greg Hunt's website.

A 2010 version of the policy remains available on Mr Hunt's website.

Since 1996, the National Library of Australia's Pandora project has archived websites and pages, including political material.

Since then it has collected content from more than 50 election campaigns, including every federal campaign, and has retained all of the pages formerly on tonyabbott.com.au.

A spokeswoman for Mr Abbott said: "The Liberal Party website is being updated to provide a single website to access media releases, speeches and policy documents released prior to the election of the Coalition government."

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by Greens_Win on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:18am
The badults are in charge and are now trying to cover their tracks so to bring forth even more lies and trickery.


Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by adelcrow on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:21am
Its really no surprise...coz we know the Spandex Kid luvs secret government.

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by cods on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:34am
DONT TELL US ITS MORE OF  SLEEPING IN THE BACK OF A CAR TALES OF YORE..


OR

I WAS YOUNG AND NAIVE AT THE TIME


32 YRS OLD..is young and naive??? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o.

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by adelcrow on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:38am

cods wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:34am:
DONT TELL US ITS MORE OF  SLEEPING IN THE BACK OF A CAR TALES OF YORE..


OR

I WAS YOUNG AND NAIVE AT THE TIME


32 YRS OLD..is young and naive??? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o.



I think you'll find that you are posting in the wrong threads cods.
Shorty is a no good rapist is a different thread to this one :D

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by Karnal on Dec 1st, 2013 at 11:05am
There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead.

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by the wise one on Dec 1st, 2013 at 12:27pm
http://pandora.nla.gov.au/tep/22487


Some things Abbott has said

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by Cliff48 on Dec 1st, 2013 at 12:46pm

cods wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:34am:
DONT TELL US ITS MORE OF  SLEEPING IN THE BACK OF A CAR TALES OF YORE..


OR

I WAS YOUNG AND NAIVE AT THE TIME


32 YRS OLD..is young and naive??? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o.


just a quite aside .....   your CAPS lock is on the left of the keyboard....   you wont look like a yelling teenager

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by skippy. on Dec 1st, 2013 at 12:54pm

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 12:46pm:

cods wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:34am:
DONT TELL US ITS MORE OF  SLEEPING IN THE BACK OF A CAR TALES OF YORE..


OR

I WAS YOUNG AND NAIVE AT THE TIME


32 YRS OLD..is young and naive??? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o.


just a quite aside .....   your CAPS lock is on the left of the keyboard....   you wont look like a yelling teenager

Oh  according to cods ( if you can believe anyone on the inTARDNet) she is an old age pensioner, I suspect the poor  old dear is deaf going by her constant yelling(caps locks).

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by Cliff48 on Dec 1st, 2013 at 12:59pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 12:46pm:

cods wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:34am:
DONT TELL US ITS MORE OF  SLEEPING IN THE BACK OF A CAR TALES OF YORE..


OR

I WAS YOUNG AND NAIVE AT THE TIME


32 YRS OLD..is young and naive??? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o.


just a quite aside .....   your CAPS lock is on the left of the keyboard....   you wont look like a yelling teenager

Oh  according to cods ( if you can believe anyone on the inTARDNet) she is an old age pensioner, I suspect the poor  old dear is deaf going by her constant yelling(caps locks).



oooohhhh thanks skippy, my mom was a bit like that in her later years ... i will try to be more tolerant of her childish behaviour.   I am new and didn't realise - sorry cods ...   yell all you want, i will just turn the volume down ,,,   or put you on ignore completely :)

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by GeorgeH on Dec 1st, 2013 at 1:11pm
I thought cods was a schoolgirl, going by her hysterical posting style. I was told she is actually 66? Old enough to know the world isn’t black and white, there are more important things than party politics etc.

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by Cliff48 on Dec 1st, 2013 at 1:24pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 1:11pm:
I thought cods was a schoolgirl, going by her hysterical posting style. I was told she is actually 66? Old enough to know the world isn’t black and white, there are more important things than party politics etc.


she did PM me to say she took down her full wall poster of Howard and replace it with a fully autographed poster of Tony in his budgie smugglers

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by cods on Dec 1st, 2013 at 3:55pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:38am:

cods wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 10:34am:
DONT TELL US ITS MORE OF  SLEEPING IN THE BACK OF A CAR TALES OF YORE..


OR

I WAS YOUNG AND NAIVE AT THE TIME


32 YRS OLD..is young and naive??? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o.



I think you'll find that you are posting in the wrong threads cods.
Shorty is a no good rapist is a different thread to this one :D




whos mentioned shorty???duh..

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by Dnarever on Dec 1st, 2013 at 5:33pm
Tony Abbott's history edited

It has been progressively going on for a while.

Try to find the details on a lot of the Abbott story's and the detail in some of their policies seems to have been updated.

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by Setanta on Dec 1st, 2013 at 5:38pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 5:33pm:
Tony Abbott's history edited

It has been progressively going on for a while.

Try to find the details on a lot of the Abbott story's and the detail in some of their policies seems to have been updated.


You could always use the wayback machine, archive.org.

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by Dnarever on Dec 1st, 2013 at 5:40pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 5:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 5:33pm:
Tony Abbott's history edited

It has been progressively going on for a while.

Try to find the details on a lot of the Abbott story's and the detail in some of their policies seems to have been updated.


You could always use the wayback machine, archive.org.


Peabody and Sherman have it booked all month.

Title: Re: Tony Abbott's history edited
Post by GeorgeH on Dec 1st, 2013 at 5:53pm
1984

MiniTru

Who controls the present controls the past
Who controls the past controls the future

Abbott just applying that like a good little totalitarian puppet taking orders.

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