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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> What a load of B/S http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1390943211 Message started by the wise one on Jan 29th, 2014 at 7:06am |
Title: What a load of B/S Post by the wise one on Jan 29th, 2014 at 7:06am
The prime minister, Tony Abbott, says Australian border protection vessels may have ventured into Indonesian waters because personnel were distracted by the wind or tides.
Abbott was asked on Tuesday to explain how highly skilled and well-resourced naval and border protection professionals could have been unclear about the location of a maritime border with a key regional neighbour. The Abbott government made repeated public assurances Australia would respect Indonesia’s maritime border as it intensified efforts to turn back to Java boats carrying asylum seekers as part of its Operation Sovereign Borders policy, a policy to which the Indonesian government has publicly objected. Then it emerged Australian boats had made incursions by accident into Indonesian waters, a development that reignited diplomatic and strategic tensions and prompted Indonesia to make a public show of deploying naval assets to the region. Defence and customs have launched an investigation into the incidents, which occurred between early December and January. The inquiry will report when federal parliament resumes next month. It is unclear whether the findings will be made public. During a press conference confirming the appointment of the new governor general, Peter Cosgrove, Abbott said the government had apologised to Jakarta for the incursions, and the apology had been accepted. Pressed further on how the incidents could have occurred given the sophisticated technology on the vessels and the skills of the personnel involved, he proffered the following theories, including a sporting analogy. On-water operations were complex and even elite professionals made human errors. “On the high seas all sorts of things happen; there are winds, there are tides, there are other things that they're focusing on,” he said. “I have nothing but total respect for the professionalism of our naval personnel, for the professionalism of our customs personnel but, even people who are at the very top of their game, even people who are the very best at their job, will occasionally make mistakes. “Test cricketers occasionally drop catches, great footballers occasionally miss tackles and, regretfully, there were a couple of occasions when this mistake was made – but it won't happen again.” Abbott emphasised the success of his contentious policy of stopping boats carrying asylum seekers from achieving their objective of reaching Australia. “We have fully implemented the policy that we said we would implement prior to the election and I think we've gone almost 40 days without a boat actually getting to Australia. “That's the important point to make here.” http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/28/navy-indonesian-incursions-after-wind-tide-distractions I seen another quote of Abbott about 3 weeks ago that he said that Solar Panels are not that good as the sun doesn't shine everyday. I wish I could find it now |
Title: Re: What a load of B/S Post by philperth2010 on Jan 29th, 2014 at 7:15am
The Navy entered Indonesian waters up to seven times despite having the best navigation aides available......If they where professional sportsmen they would have been dropped from the team by now!!!
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Title: Re: What a load of B/S Post by buzzanddidj on Jan 29th, 2014 at 7:52am John S wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 7:06am:
In an interview on 2GB last Thursday, the Prime Minister gave coal the thumbs up while criticising renewable energy. "The problem at this stage with renewable energy is that there's always got to be a back up because sometimes the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. If the sun doesn't shines and the wind doesn't blow, the power doesn't flow." http://www.energymatters.com.au/index.php?main_page=news_article&article_id=4122 What a total BUFFOON Abbott must appear on the world stage - not forgetting his claim in a speech a few days back to the World Economic Forum - that one of the BEST economies in the WORLD that his party inherited - is actually one of the WORST, due to the last Labor Government |
Title: Re: What a load of B/S Post by the wise one on Jan 29th, 2014 at 8:01am buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 7:52am:
That the quote I saw thanks buzz If Abbott done a little bit of reading he would know that it is infra red that produce power in solar panel not sun light. I have seen wind towers turning when there has been no wind at all |
Title: Re: What a load of B/S Post by GeorgeH on Jan 29th, 2014 at 8:01am
That total CRAP about renewables needing fossil fuel backup, which is 100% wrong, is a claim made by one of the IPA creeps who might get appointed to a panel to review renewable energy:
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http://reneweconomy.com.au/2014/tony-abbott-appoint-ipa-renewables-review-45647 I guess the simian only wants his prejudices reflected back at him. What an idiot! |
Title: Re: What a load of B/S Post by Datalife on Jan 29th, 2014 at 8:15am John S wrote on Jan 29th, 2014 at 8:01am:
You can definitely extract thermal energy from infrared spectrum but in most meaning solar panels use visible light, not for example the light from a bar radiator. And I was intrigued by your description of wind towers turning when there is no wind, are you talking convection currents here? And how much energy do you think can be extracted from these. |
Title: Re: What a load of B/S Post by GeorgeH on Jan 29th, 2014 at 9:13am
I have a little joke gift I got from a friend, it has a tiny solar panel which drives a tiny motor that makes two plastic “leaves” and a plastic “flower” wave up and down. I put it together and put it on the south-facing window sill near my desk. Been there a couple of years.
Amazing! Without direct sunlight it still generates enough electricity to wave the leaves and flower. On cold overcast days, no direct sunlight—still generates enough electricity to wave the leaves and flower. Tony Abbott knows nothing about solar PV or anything much about anything really. |
Title: Re: What a load of B/S Post by John Smith on Jan 29th, 2014 at 9:21am
maybe Tony could ask the girl guides to show him how to navigate????
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