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Message started by Greens_Win on Feb 13th, 2014 at 6:10am

Title: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Greens_Win on Feb 13th, 2014 at 6:10am
Should Abbott agree for taxpayers to guarantee Qantas debt?




Qantas is not looking for a handout and the airline's CEO Alan Joyce believes there is "little political or community appetite" for changing the Qantas Sale Act.

But the federal government can still come to the national carrier's aid, he says.

Hinting that the airline continues to seek a debt guarantee from Canberra, Mr Joyce outlined some detail during a speech to the Tourism and Transport Forum in the nation's capital on Wednesday.


http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2014/2/12/aviation/no-handouts-qantas-joyce

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Kat on Feb 13th, 2014 at 6:35am
They'll be the next to go in Abbott's Great Job Exodus.

He should call a DD now, and if not the GG should sack him.

Whitlam was sacked for FAR LESS than this incompetent clown.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:22am
Moderators, this title is deliberately false and misleading. This topic should either be deleted or the title changed. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has NOT said he wants taxpayers to pay for Qantas' debt. The article included in the link of the OP makes no mention of Abbott asking taxpayers to fund payment of Qantas' debt. Indeed, there is not one single mention of Abbott in the entire article - NOT ONE!

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Greens_Win on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:27am
Untwist your knickers A.B


Downturn Abbott is predictable and will do as predicted … he will make the worse choice possible with any and every decision.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:41am

____ wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:27am:
Untwist your knickers A.B


Downturn Abbott is predictable and will do as predicted … he will make the worse choice possible with any and every decision.


You're wrong and you know it. Change the topic title or it'll be reported to mods.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:43am
Poll added.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Frances on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:47am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:43am:
Poll added.


Is there any reason for adding a poll which has as its sole purpose the launching of a personal attack on another forum member?  I would have thought that was in breach of the forum rules.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:53am
The poll is unfair - take it down.

Qantas wants to increase the foreign ownership to raise money.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:55am

Frances wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:43am:
Poll added.


Is there any reason for adding a poll which has as its sole purpose the launching of a personal attack on another forum member?  I would have thought that was in breach of the forum rules.


Is there any reason for a topic titled with such a blatant lie? I would have thought that was a breach of forum rules.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Greens_Win on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:58am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:55am:

Frances wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:43am:
Poll added.


Is there any reason for adding a poll which has as its sole purpose the launching of a personal attack on another forum member?  I would have thought that was in breach of the forum rules.


Is there any reason for a topic titled with such a blatant lie? I would have thought that was a breach of forum rules.




You really should remove the personal abuse poll before you are reported by someone.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:04am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:53am:
The poll is unfair - take it down.

Qantas wants to increase the foreign ownership to raise money.


The title is wrong - change it.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:04am

____ wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:58am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:55am:

Frances wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:43am:
Poll added.


Is there any reason for adding a poll which has as its sole purpose the launching of a personal attack on another forum member?  I would have thought that was in breach of the forum rules.


Is there any reason for a topic titled with such a blatant lie? I would have thought that was a breach of forum rules.




You really should remove the personal abuse poll before you are reported by someone.


Okay, I will do that now. You should change the topic title before you are reported by someone.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:06am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:04am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:53am:
The poll is unfair - take it down.

Qantas wants to increase the foreign ownership to raise money.


The title is wrong - change it.


You're the moron who made the poll -
only you or a moderator can change it.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:07am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:04am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:53am:
The poll is unfair - take it down.

Qantas wants to increase the foreign ownership to raise money.


The title is wrong - change it.


You're the moron who made the poll -
only you or a moderator can change it.


It isn't the poll that is the issue (which I have changed). Read the title of this topic!

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Greens_Win on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:17am
"forced to change"" in the poll question is an incite of physical abuse against me since nothing is really being polled by it.

Time to change the wording of your poll before someone reports you.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:25am

____ wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:17am:
"forced to change"" in the poll question in an incite of physical abuse against me.

Time to change the wording of your poll before someone reports you.


You're on a computer hiding behind an anonymous name. How can anyone physically abuse you if they don't know who or where you are. You've been reported for posting a deliberately false/misleading topic.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:22am:
Moderators, this title is deliberately false and misleading. This topic should either be deleted or the title changed. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has NOT said he wants taxpayers to pay for Qantas' debt. The article included in the link of the OP makes no mention of Abbott asking taxpayers to fund payment of Qantas' debt. Indeed, there is not one single mention of Abbott in the entire article - NOT ONE!


unlike your polls, right? :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:07am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:04am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:53am:
The poll is unfair - take it down.

Qantas wants to increase the foreign ownership to raise money.


The title is wrong - change it.


You're the moron who made the poll -
only you or a moderator can change it.


It isn't the poll that is the issue (which I have changed). Read the title of this topic!



I read it but where is the NO choice?
And why attack a poster?

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:28am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:55am:

Frances wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:47am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:43am:
Poll added.


Is there any reason for adding a poll which has as its sole purpose the launching of a personal attack on another forum member?  I would have thought that was in breach of the forum rules.


Is there any reason for a topic titled with such a blatant lie? I would have thought that was a breach of forum rules.


how many lying topics did you start about Gillard you turd.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:33am

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:22am:
Moderators, this title is deliberately false and misleading. This topic should either be deleted or the title changed. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has NOT said he wants taxpayers to pay for Qantas' debt. The article included in the link of the OP makes no mention of Abbott asking taxpayers to fund payment of Qantas' debt. Indeed, there is not one single mention of Abbott in the entire article - NOT ONE!


unlike you polls, right? :D :D :D :D


So you think it's okay then if I go and post that Bill Shorten wants to make Union membership compulsory for every single job in the country and that if you don't join, you are sacked or don't get a job? Hmmm, okay. Off I go to start that post...

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by mozzaok on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:39am
I decided to add 2 more options to your poll Armchair.

Any poll that only offers a single outcome is a little foolish, even for those who only ever see one side of an argument.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:44am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:07am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:06am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:04am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:53am:
The poll is unfair - take it down.

Qantas wants to increase the foreign ownership to raise money.


The title is wrong - change it.


You're the moron who made the poll -
only you or a moderator can change it.


It isn't the poll that is the issue (which I have changed). Read the title of this topic!



I read it but where is the NO choice?
And why attack a poster?


No wonder you guys lost huge at the last election...

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:46am

mozzaok wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:39am:
I decided to add 2 more options to your poll Armchair.

Any poll that only offers a single outcome is a little foolish, even for those who only ever see one side of an argument.


I have changed it back. Touch it again and you'll be reported.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by mozzaok on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:51am
Pull your head in Armchair, at least you left the NO option I added, but removed my vote for the NO option.
Says everything we need to know about you right there.

I need offer no insults in your direction, every one who sees your post is aware of what you are.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:57am

mozzaok wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:51am:
Pull your head in Armchair, at least you left the NO option I added, but removed my vote for the NO option.
Says everything we need to know about you right there.

I need offer no insults in your direction, every one who sees your post is aware of what you are.


Yeah, sane. More than I can say for some who are ignoring Greens_Win's blatant lie and harping on about my poll instead. I used to feel sorry for the idiots who voted Labor at the last election. Now I just accept that they're beyond help. ::)

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by The Grappler 2014 on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:11am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:53am:
The poll is unfair - take it down.

Qantas wants to increase the foreign ownership to raise money.


Well - there are too many poor people in Oz now to buy shares etc... go begging for a cash influx from our mates in Asia - after all - it IS the 'Asian Century'.....   ;D ;D...for about ten fat cat Asians with more money than anything else.

So much for 'international brotherhood of the workers' - such concepts only live in the theory books and only apply to the rich as some sort of pastime in between making money with insider deals.

Storm Qantas HQ - take back Australia!

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by The Grappler 2014 on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:14am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:57am:

mozzaok wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:51am:
Pull your head in Armchair, at least you left the NO option I added, but removed my vote for the NO option.
Says everything we need to know about you right there.

I need offer no insults in your direction, every one who sees your post is aware of what you are.


Yeah, sane. More than I can say for some who are ignoring Greens_Win's blatant lie and harping on about my poll instead. I used to feel sorry for the idiots who voted Labor at the last election. Now I just accept that they're beyond help. ::)


You're all children - I thought that was my province exclusively here, but I can handle competition... at least I provide humour and not schoolyard bullying.

Report to my office at 6am tomorrow to review your place in the Regiment...

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:19am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:22am:
Moderators, this title is deliberately false and misleading. This topic should either be deleted or the title changed. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has NOT said he wants taxpayers to pay for Qantas' debt. The article included in the link of the OP makes no mention of Abbott asking taxpayers to fund payment of Qantas' debt. Indeed, there is not one single mention of Abbott in the entire article - NOT ONE!


unlike you polls, right? :D :D :D :D


So you think it's okay then if I go and post that Bill Shorten wants to make Union membership compulsory for every single job in the country and that if you don't join, you are sacked or don't get a job? Hmmm, okay. Off I go to start that post...


you've never stopped to consider the truth before, why would I expect you to start now?

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:21am

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:22am:
Moderators, this title is deliberately false and misleading. This topic should either be deleted or the title changed. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has NOT said he wants taxpayers to pay for Qantas' debt. The article included in the link of the OP makes no mention of Abbott asking taxpayers to fund payment of Qantas' debt. Indeed, there is not one single mention of Abbott in the entire article - NOT ONE!


unlike you polls, right? :D :D :D :D


So you think it's okay then if I go and post that Bill Shorten wants to make Union membership compulsory for every single job in the country and that if you don't join, you are sacked or don't get a job? Hmmm, okay. Off I go to start that post...


you've never stopped to consider the truth before, why would I expect you to start now?


You wouldn't know what the truth was if it walked up and kicked you in your woman parts...

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:26am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:21am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:22am:
Moderators, this title is deliberately false and misleading. This topic should either be deleted or the title changed. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has NOT said he wants taxpayers to pay for Qantas' debt. The article included in the link of the OP makes no mention of Abbott asking taxpayers to fund payment of Qantas' debt. Indeed, there is not one single mention of Abbott in the entire article - NOT ONE!


unlike you polls, right? :D :D :D :D


So you think it's okay then if I go and post that Bill Shorten wants to make Union membership compulsory for every single job in the country and that if you don't join, you are sacked or don't get a job? Hmmm, okay. Off I go to start that post...


you've never stopped to consider the truth before, why would I expect you to start now?


You wouldn't know what the truth was if it walked up and kicked you in your woman parts...


see what I mean ... you don't even know the difference between a man and a woman ..

thanks for proving my point ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 10:14am

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:26am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:21am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:22am:
Moderators, this title is deliberately false and misleading. This topic should either be deleted or the title changed. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has NOT said he wants taxpayers to pay for Qantas' debt. The article included in the link of the OP makes no mention of Abbott asking taxpayers to fund payment of Qantas' debt. Indeed, there is not one single mention of Abbott in the entire article - NOT ONE!


unlike you polls, right? :D :D :D :D


So you think it's okay then if I go and post that Bill Shorten wants to make Union membership compulsory for every single job in the country and that if you don't join, you are sacked or don't get a job? Hmmm, okay. Off I go to start that post...


you've never stopped to consider the truth before, why would I expect you to start now?


You wouldn't know what the truth was if it walked up and kicked you in your woman parts...


see what I mean ... you don't even know the difference between a man and a woman ..

thanks for proving my point ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Whatever you say, sheila! ::)

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2014 at 10:19am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 10:14am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:26am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:21am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:22am:
Moderators, this title is deliberately false and misleading. This topic should either be deleted or the title changed. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has NOT said he wants taxpayers to pay for Qantas' debt. The article included in the link of the OP makes no mention of Abbott asking taxpayers to fund payment of Qantas' debt. Indeed, there is not one single mention of Abbott in the entire article - NOT ONE!


unlike you polls, right? :D :D :D :D


So you think it's okay then if I go and post that Bill Shorten wants to make Union membership compulsory for every single job in the country and that if you don't join, you are sacked or don't get a job? Hmmm, okay. Off I go to start that post...


you've never stopped to consider the truth before, why would I expect you to start now?


You wouldn't know what the truth was if it walked up and kicked you in your woman parts...


see what I mean ... you don't even know the difference between a man and a woman ..

thanks for proving my point ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Whatever you say, sheila! ::)





Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 13th, 2014 at 12:19pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 10:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 10:14am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:26am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:21am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:22am:
Moderators, this title is deliberately false and misleading. This topic should either be deleted or the title changed. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has NOT said he wants taxpayers to pay for Qantas' debt. The article included in the link of the OP makes no mention of Abbott asking taxpayers to fund payment of Qantas' debt. Indeed, there is not one single mention of Abbott in the entire article - NOT ONE!


unlike you polls, right? :D :D :D :D


So you think it's okay then if I go and post that Bill Shorten wants to make Union membership compulsory for every single job in the country and that if you don't join, you are sacked or don't get a job? Hmmm, okay. Off I go to start that post...


you've never stopped to consider the truth before, why would I expect you to start now?


You wouldn't know what the truth was if it walked up and kicked you in your woman parts...


see what I mean ... you don't even know the difference between a man and a woman ..

thanks for proving my point ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Whatever you say, sheila! ::)




Hiding behind another woman, eh? Tut, tut, tut. ;D

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2014 at 12:31pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 12:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 10:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 10:14am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:26am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:21am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 9:19am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:27am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 7:22am:
Moderators, this title is deliberately false and misleading. This topic should either be deleted or the title changed. Prime Minister Tony Abbott has NOT said he wants taxpayers to pay for Qantas' debt. The article included in the link of the OP makes no mention of Abbott asking taxpayers to fund payment of Qantas' debt. Indeed, there is not one single mention of Abbott in the entire article - NOT ONE!


unlike you polls, right? :D :D :D :D


So you think it's okay then if I go and post that Bill Shorten wants to make Union membership compulsory for every single job in the country and that if you don't join, you are sacked or don't get a job? Hmmm, okay. Off I go to start that post...


you've never stopped to consider the truth before, why would I expect you to start now?


You wouldn't know what the truth was if it walked up and kicked you in your woman parts...


see what I mean ... you don't even know the difference between a man and a woman ..

thanks for proving my point ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Whatever you say, sheila! ::)




Hiding behind another woman, eh? Tut, tut, tut. ;D


hiding? how so moron?

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by dsmithy70 on Feb 13th, 2014 at 12:32pm
This has to be some sort of record.

Within 5 months you've gone from crowing about Abbott to now crying over misleading thread titles.

Never seemed to have a problem with them before now, in fact made some doozies of your own.

Must suck to realise your hero is worse than the one you despised so quickly.


Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by John Smith on Feb 13th, 2014 at 12:35pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 12:32pm:
This has to be some sort of record.

Within 5 months you've gone from crowing about Abbott to now crying over misleading thread titles.

Never seemed to have a problem with them before now, in fact made some doozies of your own.

Must suck to realise your hero is worse than the one you despised so quickly.



Short of Maqqa, Armpit was probably responsible for most of the misleading threads against Gillard, now he complains about it  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think you are being overly generous calling him a teaspoon, teaspoons are useful

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Greens_Win on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:27am

Quote:
Shares in Qantas surged as much as 8 per cent on Thursday after Treasurer Joe Hockey signalled that the government would guarantee the airline's new debt.



http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1392324773

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Armchair_Politician on Feb 14th, 2014 at 10:01am
Tony Abbott just said you're a liar, Greens_Loser...


PRIME Minister Tony Abbott says he supports changing the law to allow Qantas to be majority overseas-owned, but won't be offering the airline a "free ride on the taxpayer".
 
The national carrier says it is hamstrung by the Qantas Sale Act - introduced when Labor sold the airline in the 1990s - which caps foreign ownership of the company at 49 per cent, thereby limiting its access to capital.

Qantas boss Alan Joyce admits there is little political and community appetite for changing the law, and has asked the government to consider other options such as a debt guarantee.

Mr Abbott says the laws are a shackle on Qantas and it is appropriate to unshackle the airline.

"Let's not have Qantas competing with Virgin and others with one hand tied behind its back," Mr Abbott told Fairfax radio on Friday.

"But I do have to say there is no free ride on the taxpayer for private companies."

Labor remains opposed to allowing majority overseas ownership of Qantas, but is open to the government providing an assistance package.

Virgin says it's happy to see Qantas relieved of its ownership restrictions, but disputes the need for government support.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/abbott-says-no-handout-for-qantas/story-fni0xqi3-1226826944835

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Aussie on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:12pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 10:01am:
Tony Abbott just said you're a liar, Greens_Loser...


PRIME Minister Tony Abbott says he supports changing the law to allow Qantas to be majority overseas-owned, but won't be offering the airline a "free ride on the taxpayer".
 
The national carrier says it is hamstrung by the Qantas Sale Act - introduced when Labor sold the airline in the 1990s - which caps foreign ownership of the company at 49 per cent, thereby limiting its access to capital.

Qantas boss Alan Joyce admits there is little political and community appetite for changing the law, and has asked the government to consider other options such as a debt guarantee.

Mr Abbott says the laws are a shackle on Qantas and it is appropriate to unshackle the airline.

"Let's not have Qantas competing with Virgin and others with one hand tied behind its back," Mr Abbott told Fairfax radio on Friday.

"But I do have to say there is no free ride on the taxpayer for private companies."

Labor remains opposed to allowing majority overseas ownership of Qantas, but is open to the government providing an assistance package.

Virgin says it's happy to see Qantas relieved of its ownership restrictions, but disputes the need for government support.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/abbott-says-no-handout-for-qantas/story-fni0xqi3-1226826944835


So, a succession of Liberal Party Governments saw no need to unshackle, yet Abbott does.

I'd like this carefully and clearly explained to the electorate.

We are entitled to that.  Full disclosure please.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by adelcrow on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:18pm
Abbott wants taxpayers to hand money over to that incompetent little Leprechaun..
Put the little moron in jail until he pays back every cent Qantas has paid him and then stick him on the first plane back to Ireland.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Aussie on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:23pm

adelcrow wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:18pm:
Abbott wants taxpayers to hand money over to that incompetent little Leprechaun..
Put the little moron in jail until he pays back every cent Qantas has paid him and then stick him on the first plane back to Ireland.


Hard to argue against that, given he has been in the big chair as Qantas went downhill to such an extent they now want the Government to bail them.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Aussie on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:30pm

woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:25pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:18pm:
Abbott wants taxpayers to hand money over to that incompetent little Leprechaun..
Put the little moron in jail until he pays back every cent Qantas has paid him and then stick him on the first plane back to Ireland.


Get ya fact right you MORON  ABBOTT is not handing over money   GAW YOUR A LYING ^$#   >:( >:( >:(


I don't think anyone knows what exactly Abbott is handing over, but he is clearly sympathetic to something the Irish prick wants.  I don't mind if they give some assistance, but I do believe it must be thoroughly and clearly explained to us all, and stupid catch calls like 'unshackle' are nowhere near good enough.

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Aussie on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:47pm

woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:30pm:

woody2014 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:25pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:18pm:
Abbott wants taxpayers to hand money over to that incompetent little Leprechaun..
Put the little moron in jail until he pays back every cent Qantas has paid him and then stick him on the first plane back to Ireland.


Get ya fact right you MORON  ABBOTT is not handing over money   GAW YOUR A LYING ^$#   >:( >:( >:(


I don't think anyone knows what exactly Abbott is handing over, but he is clearly sympathetic to something the Irish prick wants.  I don't mind if they give some assistance, but I do believe it must be thoroughly and clearly explained to us all, and stupid catch calls like 'unshackle' are nowhere near good enough.


The littlefella wants to have the overseas ownership lifted from 49%   f^%king simple rearlly   ;D ;D


Got a link?

I thought the Irish prick wanted me to guarantee the debts of Qantas.  Even if I was to consider that, what is the prick offering in return?

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by adelcrow on Feb 14th, 2014 at 4:50pm
Hang the little potato muncher for destroying our national airline..only an idiot would want to reward the river dancing midget for what he's done to Qantas

Title: Re: Abbott Wants Us To Pay Qantas Debt
Post by Aussie on Feb 16th, 2014 at 8:11am
Today's local announces that PUP will oppose Abbott's proposal to assist a sale of Qantas to overseas interests.

Good.

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