It is still here, and ignoring it ain't gonna help.

Click here.

Posts # 92, 93, 94, 95 and 96.

fd.....that solution remains, as does the problem.

If you keep talking about the solution people will think you are channeling Hitler.

freediver wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

If you keep talking about the solution people will think you are channeling Hitler.

Nothing I can do about the stupid, arrogant ignorance of anyone who would even think there was a connection, let alone even mention publicly there may be one.

Get a new server and you know the rest if needs be.

There are many Members who are hoping this problem is solved..............soon.

:-?

Here is more, fd.  I gave up eventually and the page has still not flipped.

Click here.

All so unnecessary.

People are going to wonder what you are on about Aussie.

Aussie wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Here is more, fd.  I gave up eventually and the page has still not flipped. Click here. All so unnecessary.

wow - 6 goes & the page still wouldn't flip.    :o

Question is, is the solution final?!

Bobby. wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 10:08pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:30pm: Here is more, fd.  I gave up eventually and the page has still not flipped. Click here. All so unnecessary. wow - 6 goes & the page still wouldn't flip.    :o

Well something flipped.

What you need is a german server (not servage they are ripoffs)

SOB

whatever happened to patience?????.. what does it matter?..

we are now at the mercy of some unknown force..a page doesnt turn when we require it and it send us mad....at this rate terrorism will soon be a thing of the past...

I bet it drives these people mad sitting at a red light giving way to nothing....LOL..what about the baby waking up just as your fav TV show starts...

honestly if page flipping is the only drama you have to whinge about... think yourselves lucky thats all I can say..


a man beat his son to death with a cricket bat..thats what I call tragic. :'( :'( :'(

cods wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:35am:

whatever happened to patience?????.. what does it matter?.. we are now at the mercy of some unknown force..a page doesnt turn when we require it and it send us mad....at this rate terrorism will soon be a thing of the past... I bet it drives these people mad sitting at a red light giving way to nothing....LOL..what about the baby waking up just as your fav TV show starts... honestly if page flipping is the only drama you have to whinge about... think yourselves lucky thats all I can say.. a man beat his son to death with a cricket bat..thats what I call tragic. :'( :'( :'(

STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ THAT STORY BECAUSE T H A T  I S  T R   A   G     I       C  :'(

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:51am:

cods wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:35am: whatever happened to patience?????.. what does it matter?.. we are now at the mercy of some unknown force..a page doesnt turn when we require it and it send us mad....at this rate terrorism will soon be a thing of the past... I bet it drives these people mad sitting at a red light giving way to nothing....LOL..what about the baby waking up just as your fav TV show starts... honestly if page flipping is the only drama you have to whinge about... think yourselves lucky thats all I can say.. a man beat his son to death with a cricket bat..thats what I call tragic. :'( :'( :'( STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ THAT STORY BECAUSE T H A T  I S  T R   A   G     I       C  :'(

yes thats right wouldnt expect anyone from the left to be touched by that story....just page turning hysteria.. ::) ::)

cods wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 9:51am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:51am: cods wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:35am: whatever happened to patience?????.. what does it matter?.. we are now at the mercy of some unknown force..a page doesnt turn when we require it and it send us mad....at this rate terrorism will soon be a thing of the past... I bet it drives these people mad sitting at a red light giving way to nothing....LOL..what about the baby waking up just as your fav TV show starts... honestly if page flipping is the only drama you have to whinge about... think yourselves lucky thats all I can say.. a man beat his son to death with a cricket bat..thats what I call tragic. :'( :'( :'( STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ THAT STORY BECAUSE T H A T  I S  T R   A   G     I       C  :'( yes thats right wouldnt expect anyone from the left to be touched by that story....just page turning hysteria.. ::) ::)

Cods, you did well until you couldn't help yourself and had to include a lefty smear.

What the hell is the big deal if a post doesn't appear immediately?  If its a popular thread, there will soon be more posts 'bumping' it.  If its not, it probably doesnt matter much anyway.

There is nothing more annoying than having to wade thru the many 'bumps' of Herbert and Aussie to get to the next REAL post.

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

There is nothing more annoying than having to wade thru the many 'bumps' of Herbert and Aussie to get to the next REAL post.

Annoys me as well. 

I would say a bigger endemic forum problem is the absolutely terrible and limited search function. 

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:21pm:

cods wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:51am: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:51am: cods wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:35am: whatever happened to patience?????.. what does it matter?.. we are now at the mercy of some unknown force..a page doesnt turn when we require it and it send us mad....at this rate terrorism will soon be a thing of the past... I bet it drives these people mad sitting at a red light giving way to nothing....LOL..what about the baby waking up just as your fav TV show starts... honestly if page flipping is the only drama you have to whinge about... think yourselves lucky thats all I can say.. a man beat his son to death with a cricket bat..thats what I call tragic. :'( :'( :'( STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ THAT STORY BECAUSE T H A T  I S  T R   A   G     I       C  :'( yes thats right wouldnt expect anyone from the left to be touched by that story....just page turning hysteria.. ::) ::) Cods, you did well until you couldn't help yourself and had to include a lefty smear. What the hell is the big deal if a post doesn't appear immediately?  If its a popular thread, there will soon be more posts 'bumping' it.  If its not, it probably doesnt matter much anyway. There is nothing more annoying than having to wade thru the many 'bumps' of Herbert and Aussie to get to the next REAL post.

Okay.  We were asked to do that by freediver, but seeing as how it inconveniences you (Heaven forbid,) I'll not bother anymore, and in doing so, the problem will be ignored and left unattended, unresolved.

:)

Poll added

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:42pm:

Poll added

Dunno why.  I've just told you I will desist doing what fd suggested be done.......and the problem will go unabated.

Aussie wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:35pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:21pm: cods wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:51am: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:51am: cods wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:35am: whatever happened to patience?????.. what does it matter?.. we are now at the mercy of some unknown force..a page doesnt turn when we require it and it send us mad....at this rate terrorism will soon be a thing of the past... I bet it drives these people mad sitting at a red light giving way to nothing....LOL..what about the baby waking up just as your fav TV show starts... honestly if page flipping is the only drama you have to whinge about... think yourselves lucky thats all I can say.. a man beat his son to death with a cricket bat..thats what I call tragic. :'( :'( :'( STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ THAT STORY BECAUSE T H A T  I S  T R   A   G     I       C  :'( yes thats right wouldnt expect anyone from the left to be touched by that story....just page turning hysteria.. ::) ::) Cods, you did well until you couldn't help yourself and had to include a lefty smear. What the hell is the big deal if a post doesn't appear immediately?  If its a popular thread, there will soon be more posts 'bumping' it.  If its not, it probably doesnt matter much anyway. There is nothing more annoying than having to wade thru the many 'bumps' of Herbert and Aussie to get to the next REAL post. Okay.  We were asked to do that by freediver, but seeing as how it inconveniences you (Heaven forbid,) I'll not bother anymore, and in doing so, the problem will be ignored and left unattended, unresolved. :)

Thank you Aussie, much appreciated.    But to be fair, i only expressed my opinion ....   lets see how the poll goes.

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:35pm: Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:21pm: cods wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:51am: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:51am: cods wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:35am: whatever happened to patience?????.. what does it matter?.. we are now at the mercy of some unknown force..a page doesnt turn when we require it and it send us mad....at this rate terrorism will soon be a thing of the past... I bet it drives these people mad sitting at a red light giving way to nothing....LOL..what about the baby waking up just as your fav TV show starts... honestly if page flipping is the only drama you have to whinge about... think yourselves lucky thats all I can say.. a man beat his son to death with a cricket bat..thats what I call tragic. :'( :'( :'( STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO READ THAT STORY BECAUSE T H A T  I S  T R   A   G     I       C  :'( yes thats right wouldnt expect anyone from the left to be touched by that story....just page turning hysteria.. ::) ::) Cods, you did well until you couldn't help yourself and had to include a lefty smear. What the hell is the big deal if a post doesn't appear immediately?  If its a popular thread, there will soon be more posts 'bumping' it.  If its not, it probably doesnt matter much anyway. There is nothing more annoying than having to wade thru the many 'bumps' of Herbert and Aussie to get to the next REAL post. Okay.  We were asked to do that by freediver, but seeing as how it inconveniences you (Heaven forbid,) I'll not bother anymore, and in doing so, the problem will be ignored and left unattended, unresolved. :) Thank you Aussie, much appreciated.    But to be fair, i only expressed my opinion ....   lets see how the poll goes.

No worries.....I'll go and vote 'No" to support your cause and you can have the job of taking it up with freediver, because his position always is that if you do not bring a problem to him with proof of more than anecdotal kind...he can't do much to fix it with the people who own the server he uses.

So, Dude, over to you.  You now have the baton.

Good luck.

Aussie wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:45pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:42pm: Poll added Dunno why.  I've just told you I will desist doing what fd suggested be done.......and the problem will go unabated.

Glad you understand now.   (and i posted the poll before i saw your response)

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:45pm: Cliff48 wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 7:42pm: Poll added Dunno why.  I've just told you I will desist doing what fd suggested be done.......and the problem will go unabated. Glad you understand now.   (and i posted the poll before i saw your response)

I doubt you yet have understood that we were doing exactly what the owner of this site wanted us to do.  But......your problem now.

Good luck.  Hope you get it fixed.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 5:47am:

What you need is a german server (not servage they are ripoffs) SOB

Thanks for the suggestion spot. I'm surprised Aussie didn't think of the German solution.

I have a modest and humbly made request for all Members.  If ever a page does not flip, would you mind sending a link of that Thread to Cliff48 so he can deal with it.

I wash my hands of the matter.

Cheers!

:)

Aussie wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 8:31pm:

I have a modest and humbly made request for all Members.  If ever a page does not flip, would you mind sending a link of that Thread to Cliff48 so he can deal with it. I wash my hands of the matter. Cheers! :)

Please do:)

And I will ignore it. as bumping just fills the chat page and achieves nothing.   If any of you had knowledge of database (which is where the forum content is held), bumping achieves nothing.  It is to do with buffering on the server side, and its the server that is the problem.

I have watched as a post i made was posted immediately, and on other occasions, within a few minutes, and sometimes an hour or 2 later.  Wow, have I ever said anything that HAD TO BE POSTED INSTANTLY?????  Aussie thinks his posts are so important that the slightest delay is totally unacceptable. 

Please Aussie, show me a single post that was a life changing statement that everyone needed to know IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!

When I return tomorrow and see pages filled with "bump", "#",................ crap, it just reminds me I am dealing with children who need instant gratification from seeing their own words in print ....   and a page of bump and grind to make it instant.

Aussie, have a great day ...  try not to let little annoyances get you down.

Contrary to what cliff posted, bumping does work, for this particular problem. Another key symptom is that after you make a post, you get automatically redirected to a post above yours. Your post number does not match the number on the end of the URL. This happens after every post, not just the ones that span a page.

This forum does not use a database. It is flat file based.

Datalife wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

I would say a bigger endemic forum problem is the absolutely terrible and limited search function.

Use google.. the lack of consistent justice is the problem: anarchy rules!

flip

SOB

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2014 at 9:56pm:

Contrary to what cliff posted, bumping does work, for this particular problem. Another key symptom is that after you make a post, you get automatically redirected to a post above yours. Your post number does not match the number on the end of the URL. This happens after every post, not just the ones that span a page.

FD, I refer you to http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391633272/435

where Herbert made 7 'bump' posts over 1 or 2 minutes for no result, but a post by someone else just 7 minutes later resolved the problem.

Similarly,  http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391633272/450
where Aussie made 7 'bump posts over 2 minutes for no result and the problem was resolved by a post just 12 minutes later.

I'm not suggesting that 'bumping' doesn't work, but its apparent that rapid-fire bumps aren't a solution either.  All they achieve is filling a page with non-posts.

I have noticed in the past that often the problem will clear itself after a small amount of time.

I would suggest that if bumping is to be encouraged it should be restricted to, say, 1 bump every 10=15 minutes or so.

For some reason Aussie appears to have taken my  comments on this situation as a personal attack.  No attack was intended, I was simply stating my 2 penny's worth.

If you are happy to have the forum littered with countless bumps and grinds - its your choice and I am sorry I even mentioned it.


Quote:

This forum does not use a database. It is flat file based.

I disagree.  YABB's own documentation states that it uses a FLAT FILE DATABASE,

I don't know why people are so impatient. Eventually someone will post in the thread and the page will turn over.

There's nothing more irritating than seeing empty spaces throughout the threads.

Maybe the problem requires a more expensive server and if that's the case - maybe Ozpolitic should charge a $5 joining fee. That way FD could get the best that money can buy. There's a huge volume of traffic passing through and that doesn't come for free.

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 7:09am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:56pm: Contrary to what cliff posted, bumping does work, for this particular problem. Another key symptom is that after you make a post, you get automatically redirected to a post above yours. Your post number does not match the number on the end of the URL. This happens after every post, not just the ones that span a page. FD, I refer you to http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391633272/435 where Herbert made 7 'bump' posts over 1 or 2 minutes for no result, but a post by someone else just 7 minutes later resolved the problem. Similarly,  http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391633272/450 where Aussie made 7 'bump posts over 2 minutes for no result and the problem was resolved by a post just 12 minutes later. I'm not suggesting that 'bumping' doesn't work, but its apparent that rapid-fire bumps aren't a solution either.  All they achieve is filling a page with non-posts. I have noticed in the past that often the problem will clear itself after a small amount of time. I would suggest that if bumping is to be encouraged it should be restricted to, say, 1 bump every 10=15 minutes or so. For some reason Aussie appears to have taken my  comments on this situation as a personal attack.  No attack was intended, I was simply stating my 2 penny's worth. If you are happy to have the forum littered with countless bumps and grinds - its your choice and I am sorry I even mentioned it. Quote: This forum does not use a database. It is flat file based. I disagree.  YABB's own documentation states that it uses a FLAT FILE DATABASE,

Thanks for your advice cliff.

The problem will not "clear itself" after some time. Flat file "databases" do not take time to resolve things the way regular databases do. It is just a heap of files in a folder. The problem will only resolve itself after the correct number of bumps, or posts. You can tell how many are needed by the difference between your post number and the URL number you get redirected to.

Aussie wrote on Feb 13^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Here is more, fd.  I gave up eventually and the page has still not flipped. Click here. All so unnecessary.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Pissed myself!

Maybe you should see a solicitor?

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 7:09am:

freediver wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:56pm: Contrary to what cliff posted, bumping does work, for this particular problem. Another key symptom is that after you make a post, you get automatically redirected to a post above yours. Your post number does not match the number on the end of the URL. This happens after every post, not just the ones that span a page. FD, I refer you to http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391633272/435 where Herbert made 7 'bump' posts over 1 or 2 minutes for no result, but a post by someone else just 7 minutes later resolved the problem. Similarly,  http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391633272/450 where Aussie made 7 'bump posts over 2 minutes for no result and the problem was resolved by a post just 12 minutes later. I'm not suggesting that 'bumping' doesn't work, but its apparent that rapid-fire bumps aren't a solution either.  All they achieve is filling a page with non-posts. I have noticed in the past that often the problem will clear itself after a small amount of time. I would suggest that if bumping is to be encouraged it should be restricted to, say, 1 bump every 10=15 minutes or so. For some reason Aussie appears to have taken my  comments on this situation as a personal attack.  No attack was intended, I was simply stating my 2 penny's worth. If you are happy to have the forum littered with countless bumps and grinds - its your choice and I am sorry I even mentioned it. Quote: This forum does not use a database. It is flat file based. I disagree.  YABB's own documentation states that it uses a FLAT FILE DATABASE,

You can hardly blame me for that given you singled me (and one other) out for specific mention even though many Members who are aware of the problem and of what freediver asked of us, have done exactly what I and that other have done.

Further, as you have now been told, it is not a 'time' issue.....it is a 'number of posts' issue before an effected page will flip.

As I posted in another Thread, this is a discussion/debate Forum which needs to move in real time, and not be like a game of Chess played by two blokes living on opposite sides of the Globe mailing their moves, one at a time, to each other.

Yeas mantra, a better, bigger more efficient server is the obvious answer and I have discussed that very issue with freediver.

bump.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 9:30am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:30pm: Here is more, fd.  I gave up eventually and the page has still not flipped. Click here. All so unnecessary. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Pissed myself! Maybe you should see a solicitor?

Or a taxi driver.

bump

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 1:49pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 9:30am: Aussie wrote on Feb 13th, 2014 at 8:30pm: Here is more, fd.  I gave up eventually and the page has still not flipped. Click here. All so unnecessary. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Pissed myself! Maybe you should see a solicitor? Or a taxi driver.

Or maybe even both, and add in Taxi Owner as well if you like.

But can one man be so many things?

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 3:01pm:

But can one man be so many things?

Nah.  Retired a decade ago.....bought Cabs.  Sat on arse for 12 months playing golf.  Got bored.......decided to drive my own Cabs some days a week.  How hard is that to understand?

:D

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 3:01pm:

But can one man be so many things?

"Why is it all the people who know how to do everything better than the rest of us  are driving cabs and cutting hair?"
- Billy Connelly

British Airways canned my flight this morning so to get back to London I find myself on Easyjet!!!!
They say mingling with the commoners now and again is good for the soul and keeps you grounded.

Bit like driving cabs I guess?

Bump (in honour of Aussie)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 3:32pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 3:01pm: But can one man be so many things? "Why is it all the people who know how to do everything better than the rest of us  are driving cabs and cutting hair?" - Billy Connelly

Billy would make a great Cabbie.  I'd bung him in one of mine any day.

'beep' if you want to make a small financial donation to Aussie to help him pay FD to make the changes he has requested.

beep!  ::)

*bump* to send a get buggered message to the japie.

:D

*bump*

That get buggered should be 'get buggered.'

:D

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

Thanks for your advice cliff. The problem will not "clear itself" after some time. Flat file "databases" do not take time to resolve things the way regular databases do. It is just a heap of files in a folder. The problem will only resolve itself after the correct number of bumps, or posts. You can tell how many are needed by the difference between your post number and the URL number you get redirected to.

I assume you get your extensive 'knowledge' from the yabb support forum.   I have tried to access it but it seems to be non existent at the moment.  If you have a link that supports your claims I would be very interested.  In my many years of IT experience, your statements just doesn't add up.

If YABB Support accept that there is a bug in their software I can understand.  But otherwise, your statements make no sense.

All databases are just a collection of files in a folder.  Whether they are Flat, Relational, Hierarchical, Network, .. whatever, is unimportant.  Access to these files uses the exact same  bios access techniques.  Where do you get the idea that database access is different if its not a Flat File?

I am sorry, but unless this is a reported bug within YABB, your explanation makes no sense.

I have witnessed the 'problem' correcting itself, and I have witnessed multiple bumps having no effect.

I would seriously like to see any documentation that supports your claims.

Aussie wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 1:27pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 7:09am: freediver wrote on Feb 14th, 2014 at 9:56pm: Contrary to what cliff posted, bumping does work, for this particular problem. Another key symptom is that after you make a post, you get automatically redirected to a post above yours. Your post number does not match the number on the end of the URL. This happens after every post, not just the ones that span a page. FD, I refer you to http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391633272/435 where Herbert made 7 'bump' posts over 1 or 2 minutes for no result, but a post by someone else just 7 minutes later resolved the problem. Similarly,  http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391633272/450 where Aussie made 7 'bump posts over 2 minutes for no result and the problem was resolved by a post just 12 minutes later. I'm not suggesting that 'bumping' doesn't work, but its apparent that rapid-fire bumps aren't a solution either.  All they achieve is filling a page with non-posts. I have noticed in the past that often the problem will clear itself after a small amount of time. I would suggest that if bumping is to be encouraged it should be restricted to, say, 1 bump every 10=15 minutes or so. For some reason Aussie appears to have taken my  comments on this situation as a personal attack.  No attack was intended, I was simply stating my 2 penny's worth. If you are happy to have the forum littered with countless bumps and grinds - its your choice and I am sorry I even mentioned it. Quote: This forum does not use a database. It is flat file based. I disagree.  YABB's own documentation states that it uses a FLAT FILE DATABASE, You can hardly blame me for that given you singled me (and one other) out for specific mention even though many Members who are aware of the problem and of what freediver asked of us, have done exactly what I and that other have done.

My poor little paranoid Aussie ....   again I state ...   I DID NOT ATTACK YOU.  However if you insist on accusing me:

Apart from Herbert, others don't make 7 posts in 1 or 2 minutes to just spam the thread.


Quote:

Further, as you have now been told, it is not a 'time' issue.....it is a 'number of posts' issue before an effected page will flip.

Experience has disproved this claim.


Quote:

As I posted in another Thread, this is a discussion/debate Forum which needs to move in real time, and not be like a game of Chess played by two blokes living on opposite sides of the Globe mailing their moves, one at a time, to each other.

... and filling the thread with meaningless bumps and  grinds helps the exchange experience?


Quote:

Yeas mantra, a better, bigger more efficient server is the obvious answer and I have discussed that very issue with freediver.

About the only thing we agree upon, I made the same suggestion.

Mr 48................I'm not about to bother explaining it any further to you as you seem to claim to know more about the software which runs this Forum than the bloke who owns it and has run it with yabb (or whatever the correct letters are) for many, many years.

I do hope you'll forgive if I doffs me lid to him on this matter rather than your good self who has been here about a nano-second in comparison. 

I did what freediver asked of me.

Now, leave me out of your joust.

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 4:45pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 8:49am: Thanks for your advice cliff. The problem will not "clear itself" after some time. Flat file "databases" do not take time to resolve things the way regular databases do. It is just a heap of files in a folder. The problem will only resolve itself after the correct number of bumps, or posts. You can tell how many are needed by the difference between your post number and the URL number you get redirected to. I assume you get your extensive 'knowledge' from the yabb support forum.   I have tried to access it but it seems to be non existent at the moment.  If you have a link that supports your claims I would be very interested.  In my many years of IT experience, your statements just doesn't add up. If YABB Support accept that there is a bug in their software I can understand.  But otherwise, your statements make no sense. All databases are just a collection of files in a folder.  Whether they are Flat, Relational, Hierarchical, Network, .. whatever, is unimportant.  Access to these files uses the exact same  bios access techniques.  Where do you get the idea that database access is different if its not a Flat File? I am sorry, but unless this is a reported bug within YABB, your explanation makes no sense. I have witnessed the 'problem' correcting itself, and I have witnessed multiple bumps having no effect. I would seriously like to see any documentation that supports your claims.

No-one told me. I saw it for myself. You can see it for yourself too, if you open your eyes. Your own evidence based on what you have seen backs up what I am saying. You just don't seem to realise it yet, for some reason. I have given you enough information to verify what I say for yourself.

It is not a reported bug within YaBB because the problem is not with YaBB.

Aussie wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 5:15pm:

Mr 48................I'm not about to bother explaining it any further to you as you seem to claim to know more about the software which runs this Forum than the bloke who owns it and has run it with yabb (or whatever the correct letters are) for many, many years. I do hope you'll forgive if I doffs me lid to him on this matter rather than your good self who has been here about a nano-second in comparison.  I did what freediver asked of me. Now, leave me out of your joust.

Smiling to the little paranoid poster....   have a great life  :)

freediver wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 5:18pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 4:45pm: freediver wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 8:49am: Thanks for your advice cliff. The problem will not "clear itself" after some time. Flat file "databases" do not take time to resolve things the way regular databases do. It is just a heap of files in a folder. The problem will only resolve itself after the correct number of bumps, or posts. You can tell how many are needed by the difference between your post number and the URL number you get redirected to. I assume you get your extensive 'knowledge' from the yabb support forum.   I have tried to access it but it seems to be non existent at the moment.  If you have a link that supports your claims I would be very interested.  In my many years of IT experience, your statements just doesn't add up. If YABB Support accept that there is a bug in their software I can understand.  But otherwise, your statements make no sense. All databases are just a collection of files in a folder.  Whether they are Flat, Relational, Hierarchical, Network, .. whatever, is unimportant.  Access to these files uses the exact same  bios access techniques.  Where do you get the idea that database access is different if its not a Flat File? I am sorry, but unless this is a reported bug within YABB, your explanation makes no sense. I have witnessed the 'problem' correcting itself, and I have witnessed multiple bumps having no effect. I would seriously like to see any documentation that supports your claims. No-one told me. I saw it for myself. You can see it for yourself too, if you open your eyes. Your own evidence based on what you have seen backs up what I am saying. You just don't seem to realise it yet, for some reason. I have given you enough information to verify what I say for yourself. It is not a reported bug within YaBB because the problem is not with YaBB.

No ... I have not witnessed what you say but I will watch it closely to see if the pattern resembles your claims.

Since you have demonstrated you have no clue of how a database works on the net and admit that YABB do not have a support issue on this problem, your 'solution' at this point just seems to clutter the threads with little worthwhile result.

Best of luck in the future to actually solving the problem rather than giving idiots an excuse to spam the board.

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 5:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 5:15pm: Mr 48................I'm not about to bother explaining it any further to you as you seem to claim to know more about the software which runs this Forum than the bloke who owns it and has run it with yabb (or whatever the correct letters are) for many, many years. I do hope you'll forgive if I doffs me lid to him on this matter rather than your good self who has been here about a nano-second in comparison.  I did what freediver asked of me. Now, leave me out of your joust. Smiling to the little paranoid poster....   have a great life  :)

I say, Elde Fruit, would you mind giving up on the personal abuse?  I am neither 'little,' nor 'paranoid,' and I am not seeking your patronage.

Leave me out of this, please.

I love internet experts.
I would lay money this bloke is at least in his 60s.

Aussie wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 5:50pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 5:33pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 5:15pm: Mr 48................I'm not about to bother explaining it any further to you as you seem to claim to know more about the software which runs this Forum than the bloke who owns it and has run it with yabb (or whatever the correct letters are) for many, many years. I do hope you'll forgive if I doffs me lid to him on this matter rather than your good self who has been here about a nano-second in comparison.  I did what freediver asked of me. Now, leave me out of your joust. Smiling to the little paranoid poster....   have a great life  :) I say, Elde Fruit, would you mind giving up on the personal abuse?  I am neither 'little,' nor 'paranoid,' and I am not seeking your patronage. Leave me out of this, please.

sure PP, happy to leave you out of this since you are clueless....   have great life.  :)

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 5:56pm:

I love internet experts. I would lay money this bloke is at least in his 60s.

Wow the Arrogant Andrei is a rocket scientist   :)

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 6:37pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 5:56pm: I love internet experts. I would lay money this bloke is at least in his 60s. Wow the Arrogant Andrei is a rocket scientist   :)

Obviously why he was given the keys  :o :o :D

Cliff48 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2014 at 5:39pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 5:18pm: Cliff48 wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 4:45pm: freediver wrote on Feb 15th, 2014 at 8:49am: Thanks for your advice cliff. The problem will not "clear itself" after some time. Flat file "databases" do not take time to resolve things the way regular databases do. It is just a heap of files in a folder. The problem will only resolve itself after the correct number of bumps, or posts. You can tell how many are needed by the difference between your post number and the URL number you get redirected to. I assume you get your extensive 'knowledge' from the yabb support forum.   I have tried to access it but it seems to be non existent at the moment.  If you have a link that supports your claims I would be very interested.  In my many years of IT experience, your statements just doesn't add up. If YABB Support accept that there is a bug in their software I can understand.  But otherwise, your statements make no sense. All databases are just a collection of files in a folder.  Whether they are Flat, Relational, Hierarchical, Network, .. whatever, is unimportant.  Access to these files uses the exact same  bios access techniques.  Where do you get the idea that database access is different if its not a Flat File? I am sorry, but unless this is a reported bug within YABB, your explanation makes no sense. I have witnessed the 'problem' correcting itself, and I have witnessed multiple bumps having no effect. I would seriously like to see any documentation that supports your claims. No-one told me. I saw it for myself. You can see it for yourself too, if you open your eyes. Your own evidence based on what you have seen backs up what I am saying. You just don't seem to realise it yet, for some reason. I have given you enough information to verify what I say for yourself. It is not a reported bug within YaBB because the problem is not with YaBB. No ... I have not witnessed what you say but I will watch it closely to see if the pattern resembles your claims. Since you have demonstrated you have no clue of how a database works on the net and admit that YABB do not have a support issue on this problem, your 'solution' at this point just seems to clutter the threads with little worthwhile result. Best of luck in the future to actually solving the problem rather than giving idiots an excuse to spam the board.

Don't 'watch'. You can test it for yourself easily enough.

Aussie, please refrain from starting duplicate threads.