The Coalition has soared ahead in the latest Nielsen poll. The Coalition is up three points to 44%, Labor down four to 33%, and the Greens are up one to 12%. Bill Shorten's good approval figure has vanished, down 11 points on approval to 40%, and up 10 points on dissaproval to 40%, making his satisfaction to dissatisfaction rating neutral, with 20% uncommitted. Tony Abbott's approval rating is down two to to 45%, and his disapproval up one to 47%, leaving his satisfaction to dissatisfaction rating negative, albeit statistically insignificant, so more or less neutral, with 12% uncommitted.

I can't find any PPM ratings, but the important thing is that the coalition leads 52-48 on the 2pp. Australians are waking up after a brief lull, and realising that the Coalition is making the right decision, and is the best equipped party to run our country.  :)

matty wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 9:30pm:

The Coalition has soared ahead in the latest Nielsen poll. The Coalition is up three points to 44%, Labor down four to 33%, and the Greens are up one to 12%. Bill Shorten's good approval figure has vanished, down 11 points on approval to 40%, and up 10 points on dissaproval to 40%, making his satisfaction to dissatisfaction rating neutral, with 20% uncommitted. Tony Abbott's approval rating is down two to to 45%, and his disapproval up one to 47%, leaving his satisfaction to dissatisfaction rating negative, albeit statistically insignificant, so more or less neutral, with 12% uncommitted. I can't find any PPM ratings, but the important thing is that the coalition leads 52-48 on the 2pp. Australians are waking up after a brief lull, and realising that the Coalition is making the right decision, and is the best equipped party to run our country.  :)

Aussies are also getting over their hangover (from celebrating Abbott becoming PM and ending 6 years of Labor pain) and remembering why they gave Labor a good ass-whuppin' last September...

This can't be true, most likely labor support has just been blown by the trade winds into the deep ocean and it will re emerge in the not too distant future if a carbon tax is implemented.  :D

have you a link to this Matty? can't find it anywhere .... not that I don't trust you but you have been known to sprout the odd bit of crap from time to time.

doesnt surprise. we have heard nothing from shorten on any issue. We may as well have dickie knee as opposition leader.

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 10:13pm:

have you a link to this Matty? can't find it anywhere .... not that I don't trust you but you have been known to sprout the odd bit of crap from time to time.

Excuse me, when has Matty ever sprouted crap on this site?

He was the first to infiltrate the Greens and uncover the fact that they’re watermelons. He deserves a lot of credit for this, you know.

If it wasn’t for Matty, the Ryde Greens might even be in power. Think about that.

Geez, matty, after being MIA for most of the past two months with all the bad polling for the government, you're all over this rogue poll like a five-dollar hooker.

ian wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:15pm:

doesnt surprise. we have heard nothing from shorten on any issue. We may as well have dickie knee as opposition leader.

Well why not?

We already have Dickie Head as PM.

Karnal wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 10:13pm: have you a link to this Matty? can't find it anywhere .... not that I don't trust you but you have been known to sprout the odd bit of crap from time to time. Excuse me, when has Matty ever sprouted crap on this site? He was the first to infiltrate the Greens and uncover the fact that they’re watermelons. He deserves a lot of credit for this, you know. If it wasn’t for Matty, the Ryde Greens might even be in power. Think about that.

When has he ever sprouted anything else but...??

It was only a matter of time before one-term Electricity Bill's shady union past came back to bite him in the gluteous maximus!

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/shortens-approval-rating-slumps-in-poll/story-fni0xqi3-1226828917539

Now will the coalition go to a DD eletion.


Did labor make a mistake in Shorten


and WOO HOO to Greens 12% …. keep up the great work.

Only 23% of voters oppose the corruption Royal Commission into the unions!!! Most likely, that 23% minority consists solely of hardcore militant unionists with much to lose in the Royal Commission and the most rusted-on Labor supporters.  :)

So EVERY other poll has it the other way around. Maybe longweekend was right when he said Neilson polls are ALWAYS wrong.

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:55am:

So EVERY other poll has it the other way around. Maybe longweekend was right when he said Neilson polls are ALWAYS wrong.

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ian wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:15pm:

doesnt surprise. we have heard nothing from shorten on any issue. We may as well have dickie knee as opposition leader.

this is what I was saying a week or two back... Shorten has done a disappearing act...

but lately he's been back mouthing off sticking up for militant Unions and not wanting investigations into corruption....

what's he hiding?

it was said around 12 months back, if fact, it was an argument to go back with Rudd as leader, when Labor was crapping itself about the Royal commission into corruption with Labor and the Unions... that if the Liberals win and get the investigation off the ground then a lot of them would be stuffed....

its still early days though and Tony is still kicking goals one after the other....

the next few budgets are going to have to be tough after the Labor/Green coalition left us in massive debt... people wont like paying back the good times and handouts...

but hey, they voted for the worst government in Australia's history... they've no one to blame but themselves...

Worth mentioning:


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On a two-party-preferred basis, the Coalition now leads the ALP by four percentage points - 52 per cent to 48, according to the allocation of preferences at the last election. However, that gap narrowed to 51/49 when voters were specifically asked who would get their second preference. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-bounces-back-as-union-woes-hit-bill-shorten-in-latest-poll-20140216-32tzn.html#ixzz2tWItbcZt

____ wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:07am:

Now will the coalition go to a DD eletion. Did labor make a mistake in Shorten and WOO HOO to Greens 12% …. keep up the great work.

oh yes... the scabby greens are always happy to pick up the scraps like filthy seagulls...  ;D

True Blue... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

ian wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 11:15pm: doesnt surprise. we have heard nothing from shorten on any issue. We may as well have dickie knee as opposition leader. this is what I was saying a week or two back... Shorten has done a disappearing act... but lately he's been back mouthing off sticking up for militant Unions and not wanting investigations into corruption.... what's he hiding? it was said around 12 months back, if fact, it was an argument to go back with Rudd as leader, when Labor was crapping itself about the Royal commission into corruption with Labor and the Unions... that if the Liberals win and get the investigation off the ground then a lot of them would be stuffed.... its still early days though and Tony is still kicking goals one after the other.... the next few budgets are going to have to be tough after the Labor/Green coalition left us in massive debt... people wont like paying back the good times and handouts... but hey, they voted for the worst government in Australia's history... they've no one to blame but themselves...

Not only have we heard little from Electricity Bill, what we have heard has been negative or simply blocking government policy for the sake of being in Opposition and saying no. Why so negative, Mr Shorten?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:46am:

Only 23% of voters oppose the corruption Royal Commission into the unions!!! Most likely, that 23% minority consists solely of hardcore militant unionists with much to lose in the Royal Commission and the most rusted-on Labor supporters.  :)

More likely it's the 23% who still have some sense of right and wrong.

Under this scum, being in a union is more important than it has been for many years.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:51am:

Not only have we heard little from Electricity Bill, what we have heard has been negative or simply blocking government policy for the sake of being in Opposition and saying no. Why so negative, Mr Shorten?

Probably keeping his powder dry' so that when he does 'fire' he'll blow that neo-Nazi sonofabitch Abbott right out of the water.

Kat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:00am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:51am: Not only have we heard little from Electricity Bill, what we have heard has been negative or simply blocking government policy for the sake of being in Opposition and saying no. Why so negative, Mr Shorten? Probably keeping his powder dry' so that when he does 'fire' he'll blow that neo-Nazi sonofabitch Abbott right out of the water.

You're getting more frustrated by the day as Abbott is PM for longer, aren't you? At this rate, you'll be catatonic in a few months time!  ;D ;D ;D

With polls like this, Abbott could become a habit.

True Blue... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:23am:

ian wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 11:15pm: doesnt surprise. we have heard nothing from shorten on any issue. We may as well have dickie knee as opposition leader. this is what I was saying a week or two back... Shorten has done a disappearing act... but lately he's been back mouthing off sticking up for militant Unions and not wanting investigations into corruption.... what's he hiding? it was said around 12 months back, if fact, it was an argument to go back with Rudd as leader, when Labor was crapping itself about the Royal commission into corruption with Labor and the Unions... that if the Liberals win and get the investigation off the ground then a lot of them would be stuffed.... its still early days though and Tony is still kicking goals one after the other.... the next few budgets are going to have to be tough after the Labor/Green coalition left us in massive debt... people wont like paying back the good times and handouts... but hey, they voted for the worst government in Australia's history... they've no one to blame but themselves...

Sorry, but no.

I didn't vote for the neo-fascist Con-alition (which ARE without a doubt our worst
government EVER, despite the delusions of the fools who voted for them).

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:01am:

Kat wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 7:00am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:51am: Not only have we heard little from Electricity Bill, what we have heard has been negative or simply blocking government policy for the sake of being in Opposition and saying no. Why so negative, Mr Shorten? Probably keeping his powder dry' so that when he does 'fire' he'll blow that neo-Nazi sonofabitch Abbott right out of the water. You're getting more frustrated by the day as Abbott is PM for longer, aren't you? At this rate, you'll be catatonic in a few months time!  ;D ;D ;D

Since you appear to be deceased from the collar up, maybe you'll tell me what it's like.

He should step aside for Mr Morrison who has shown the sort of spine that most politicians lack.
At the very least Morrison should be promoted

Kat wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:11am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 7:01am: Kat wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 7:00am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:51am: Not only have we heard little from Electricity Bill, what we have heard has been negative or simply blocking government policy for the sake of being in Opposition and saying no. Why so negative, Mr Shorten? Probably keeping his powder dry' so that when he does 'fire' he'll blow that neo-Nazi sonofabitch Abbott right out of the water. You're getting more frustrated by the day as Abbott is PM for longer, aren't you? At this rate, you'll be catatonic in a few months time!  ;D ;D ;D Since you appear to be deceased from the collar up, maybe you'll tell me what it's like.

One step closer, lol!!!  :D :D :D

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 7:12am:

He should step aside for Mr Morrison who has shown the sort of spine that most politicians lack. At the very least Morrison should be promoted

hes doing a TOP job where he is..and like you say he has a SPINE..which is needed in the way that jobs turned out. ::) ::)

True Blue... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:50am:

____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:07am: Now will the coalition go to a DD eletion. Did labor make a mistake in Shorten and WOO HOO to Greens 12% …. keep up the great work. oh yes... the scabby greens are always happy to pick up the scraps like filthy seagulls...  ;D

hey I like seagulls.....this was taken before they started promoting lowering the age of consent....oops voting to 16...lol...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/shortens-personal-approval-slumps-in-new-poll-published-today/story-fni0cx4q-1226828950538

BILL Shorten’s union leader past may be counting against him, with his personal approval slumping and the coalition regaining the lead in a new poll.

The coalition leads the ALP 52-48 on a two-party preferred basis in the poll published on Monday, the first time it has led the opposition in two months.

The gap narrows to 51-49 when second preference votes are taken into account in the poll published on the Sydney Morning Herald’s website.

With Prime Minister Tony Abbott having announced the terms of reference for a royal commission into union corruption, voters may be increasingly wary of the opposition leader’s past as head of the Australian Workers’ Union.

The AWU was one of five unions named by Mr Abbott when announcing the commission last week.

Only 23 per cent of voters oppose the union inquiry and Mr Shorten’s personal approval has slumped by 11 points.

The prime minister now holds a 10-point lead over Mr Shorten as voters’ preferred leader, 49 per cent to 39.

The poll surveyed 1400 electors between Thursday and Saturday.



didnt see where the greens are 12% though...anyone got that?

Discussing polls at this stage of the term, when a Government has a locked sure majority is about as relevant and sensible as discussing the Polish elections.

When a Government is teetering and a minority like last time I get it, but now it's just idiotic.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 8:03am:

Discussing polls at this stage of the term, when a Government has a locked sure majority is about as relevant and sensible as discussing the Polish elections. When a Government is teetering and a minority like last time I get it, but now it's just idiotic.

true but the lefties have been delirious .. when abbotts polling went down...so its tit for tat... dont forget he has a hostile senate..

now the greens are giving gay marriage a rest its voting at 16... ::) ::).. more pressure..lol..

Wow, one poll and the Lib fanbois are exploding with joy, which shows just how worried they have been by the bad polls. Even so, 51:49 is not huge. It may encourage Hokey to be even fiercer with his Budget and that will have very bad consequences for the economy.

Shorten is doing alright, he is working hard but it is hard for a Labor LOTO to get much airtime with Murdoch owning 72% of newspapers—just watch how the rightarded always give the Daily Terror as a source (including in this thread) and Murdoch just about owns Ch 10 as well as 50% of Foxtel.

Bam wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:26pm:

Geez, matty, after being MIA for most of the past two months with all the bad polling for the government, you're all over this rogue poll like a five-dollar hooker.

Excuse me, Matty charges much more for his services than Longy, Cods, Armchair and Maqqa.

As a specialist, he'll be on at least $180,000.

Confucius say, he who gloats over polls expects not to see many more sunrises.

Fun though.

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 8:31am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:03am: Discussing polls at this stage of the term, when a Government has a locked sure majority is about as relevant and sensible as discussing the Polish elections. When a Government is teetering and a minority like last time I get it, but now it's just idiotic. true but the lefties have been delirious .. when abbotts polling went down...so its tit for tat... dont forget he has a hostile senate.. now the greens are giving gay marriage a rest its voting at 16... ::) ::).. more pressure..lol..

I don't buy into the whole Left v Right crap cods.
I have my own opinions and no side to cheer for.

If "Left" people are focused on polls at this stage then they too are a bunch of idiots.

Polling at this stage means absolutely nothing when the Government is not in minority.

The last poll was a rogue poll and Morgan polls aren't worth the toilet paper they print them on.

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 9:41am:

Confucius say, he who gloats over polls expects not to see many more sunrises. Fun though.

Indeed.

And calling it 'soars ahead' is catching the proggy tendency for hyperbole.

Speaking of toilet paper...

Anyone for Danish stool?

Miam mian.

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 8:31am:

Wow, one poll and the Lib fanbois are exploding with joy, which shows just how worried they have been by the bad polls. Even so, 51:49 is not huge. It may encourage Hokey to be even fiercer with his Budget and that will have very bad consequences for the economy. Shorten is doing alright, he is working hard but it is hard for a Labor LOTO to get much airtime with Murdoch owning 72% of newspapers—just watch how the rightarded always give the Daily Terror as a source (including in this thread) and Murdoch just about owns Ch 10 as well as 50% of Foxtel.

I think not.


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..........Mr Shorten's personal approval has slumped by an unusually decisive 11 points......... ..............Labor's share of the primary vote has also fallen by 4 points to be just 33 per cent - the same disastrous level Labor achieved in the 2013 election in which it was roundly defeated...............

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-bounces-back-as-union-woes-hit-bill-shorten-in-latest-poll-20140216-32tzn.html

politics is like reality TV nowadays.

picture all politicians as if they were members of the big brother house.
who gets voted out first by the public?
those with no presonality.
the landscape is littered with these types,

peacock, crean, brendan nelson, beeazley, that green leader who signed off on the gst (forget her name..she 's so forgettable)
shortens just like them
they lack the 'wow" factor
they should have 'loser ' stamped on their forehead.
they are beige.

campbell kicking bikies.
morrison kicking indo's .
thats what the public want to see

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 1:29pm:

politics is like reality TV nowadays. picture all politicians as if they were members of the big brother house. who gets voted out first by the public? those with no presonality. the landscape is littered with these types, peacock, crean, brendan nelson, beeazley, that green leader who signed off on the gst (forget her name..she 's so forgettable) shortens just like them they lack the 'wow" factor they should have 'loser ' stamped on their forehead. they are beige. campbell kicking bikies. morrison kicking indo's . thats what the public want to see

hahahahaha

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 1:29pm:

shortens just like them they lack the 'wow" factor

It was Abbott's "WOW!-factor" budgie-smugglers that got him across the line at the last election.

Perhaps Shorten should go one better and allow himself to be seen swanning around in a tight pair of lorikeet-smugglers before the next election.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 1:19pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:31am: Wow, one poll and the Lib fanbois are exploding with joy, which shows just how worried they have been by the bad polls. Even so, 51:49 is not huge. It may encourage Hokey to be even fiercer with his Budget and that will have very bad consequences for the economy. Shorten is doing alright, he is working hard but it is hard for a Labor LOTO to get much airtime with Murdoch owning 72% of newspapers—just watch how the rightarded always give the Daily Terror as a source (including in this thread) and Murdoch just about owns Ch 10 as well as 50% of Foxtel. I think not. Quote: ..........Mr Shorten's personal approval has slumped by an unusually decisive 11 points......... ..............Labor's share of the primary vote has also fallen by 4 points to be just 33 per cent - the same disastrous level Labor achieved in the 2013 election in which it was roundly defeated............... http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-bounces-back-as-union-woes-hit-bill-shorten-in-latest-poll-20140216-32tzn.html

Don’t read too much into one poll, Sprinty. Polls are interesting but use tiny samples, from 400 (useless) to 1–2K, better but still a lot of variance.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 1:57pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 1:29pm: shortens just like them they lack the 'wow" factor It was Abbott's "WOW!-factor" budgie-smugglers that got him across the line at the last election. Perhaps Shorten should go one better and allow himself to be seen swanning around in a tight pair of lorikeet-smugglers before the next election.

I agree, Herbie. I think he should wear those nappies the old boy uses to collect his lunch.

Delicious!

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

Don’t read too much into one poll, Sprinty. Polls are interesting but use tiny samples, from 400 (useless) to 1–2K, better but still a lot of variance.

There's little township in NSW that always picks the winning party correctly. I've forgotten the name of it. That's where they should do the polling'

John Smith wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 10:13pm:

have you a link to this Matty? can't find it anywhere .... not that I don't trust you but you have been known to sprout the odd bit of crap from time to time.

Sorry that I didn't post a link last night, John. I hate typing on iPhone and am not sure how to do so on there. Someone has put one up since, though.

Also, I resent that second remark.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 2:14pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 2:09pm: Don’t read too much into one poll, Sprinty. Polls are interesting but use tiny samples, from 400 (useless) to 1–2K, better but still a lot of variance. There's little township in NSW that always picks the winning party correctly. I've forgotten the name of it. That's where they should do the polling'

Probably some place in Eden-Monaro.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 10:25am:

cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:31am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:03am: Discussing polls at this stage of the term, when a Government has a locked sure majority is about as relevant and sensible as discussing the Polish elections. When a Government is teetering and a minority like last time I get it, but now it's just idiotic. true but the lefties have been delirious .. when abbotts polling went down...so its tit for tat... dont forget he has a hostile senate.. now the greens are giving gay marriage a rest its voting at 16... ::) ::).. more pressure..lol.. I don't buy into the whole Left v Right crap cods. I have my own opinions and no side to cheer for. If "Left" people are focused on polls at this stage then they too are a bunch of idiots. Polling at this stage means absolutely nothing when the Government is not in minority.

Most people on here do fall into the left camp or the right camp. Not all, but the vast majority do, although I tend to identify more as a conservative than a righty, though I am both.

I agree with what you're saying, Andrei, regarsing the relevance (or lack thereof) of polls at the moment, but we're just giving the lefties a taste of their own medicine, and it is worth discussing such a jump in approval of Shorten.

True Blue... wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:50am:

____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:07am: Now will the coalition go to a DD eletion. Did labor make a mistake in Shorten and WOO HOO to Greens 12% …. keep up the great work. oh yes... the scabby greens are always happy to pick up the scraps like filthy seagulls...  ;D

Voters are not scraps and shame on you for calling them so.
two, seagulls are not filthy.
And three, Greens are not scabby

____ wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:

True Blue... wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:50am: ____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:07am: Now will the coalition go to a DD eletion. Did labor make a mistake in Shorten and WOO HOO to Greens 12% …. keep up the great work. oh yes... the scabby greens are always happy to pick up the scraps like filthy seagulls...  ;D Voters are not scraps and shame on you for calling them so. two, seagulls are not filthy. And three, Greens are not scabby

Woody, what's your theory on why the Greens lost so much of their vote last election? The public turned against you guys, at a time when Labor received its lowest vote in years.

matty wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 3:32pm:

____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:24pm: True Blue... wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:50am: ____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:07am: Now will the coalition go to a DD eletion. Did labor make a mistake in Shorten and WOO HOO to Greens 12% …. keep up the great work. oh yes... the scabby greens are always happy to pick up the scraps like filthy seagulls...  ;D Voters are not scraps and shame on you for calling them so. two, seagulls are not filthy. And three, Greens are not scabby Woody, what's your theory on why the Greens lost so much of their vote last election? The public turned against you guys, at a time when Labor received its lowest vote in years.

The pendulum was to the conservatives and even under these conditions Greens achieved there second best vote and retained their first lower house seat.

Greens didn't lose votes, we only set them free so they can return when they realise their folly. And look how quick they have.

Greens voters are so intelligent.

____ wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 3:59pm:

matty wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:32pm: ____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:24pm: True Blue... wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:50am: ____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:07am: Now will the coalition go to a DD eletion. Did labor make a mistake in Shorten and WOO HOO to Greens 12% …. keep up the great work. oh yes... the scabby greens are always happy to pick up the scraps like filthy seagulls...  ;D Voters are not scraps and shame on you for calling them so. two, seagulls are not filthy. And three, Greens are not scabby Woody, what's your theory on why the Greens lost so much of their vote last election? The public turned against you guys, at a time when Labor received its lowest vote in years. The pendulum was to the conservatives and even under these conditions Greens achieved there second best vote and retained their first lower house seat. Greens didn't lose votes, we only set them free so they can return when they realise their folly. And look how quick they have. Greens voters are so intelligent.

No , having Milne and SHY do media proves you need a PR consultant at the very least

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 4:03pm:

____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:59pm: matty wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:32pm: ____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:24pm: True Blue... wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:50am: ____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:07am: Now will the coalition go to a DD eletion. Did labor make a mistake in Shorten and WOO HOO to Greens 12% …. keep up the great work. oh yes... the scabby greens are always happy to pick up the scraps like filthy seagulls...  ;D Voters are not scraps and shame on you for calling them so. two, seagulls are not filthy. And three, Greens are not scabby Woody, what's your theory on why the Greens lost so much of their vote last election? The public turned against you guys, at a time when Labor received its lowest vote in years. The pendulum was to the conservatives and even under these conditions Greens achieved there second best vote and retained their first lower house seat. Greens didn't lose votes, we only set them free so they can return when they realise their folly. And look how quick they have. Greens voters are so intelligent. No , having Milne and SHY do media proves you need a PR consultant at the very least

Polling disproves your opinion.

You leave the thinking to the Greens sweetie.

matty wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 2:14pm: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 2:09pm: Don’t read too much into one poll, Sprinty. Polls are interesting but use tiny samples, from 400 (useless) to 1–2K, better but still a lot of variance. There's little township in NSW that always picks the winning party correctly. I've forgotten the name of it. That's where they should do the polling' Probably some place in Eden-Monaro.

I think you might be right. That's an electorate.

Grendel wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

The last poll was a rogue poll and Morgan polls aren't worth the toilet paper they print them on.

Um, Labor have  been ahead  in EVERY poll for four months. If a poll was a " rogue poll" it would be this one, you are certainly not Einstein. According to the conga line Neilson is always wrong, but now Neilson have the conga line ahead all of a sudden it's gospel, too funny. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
When all the polls have the conga line ahead then you can crow, but seeing as though that is far from the case I will take great pleasure in rubbing your snotty little noses in your own excrement if the next News poll and others have Labor still in front. AND... The best thing will be seeing as though the conga line have all prematurely ewackulated over this poll none of you can use the excuse that the polls are irrelevant, as you all have done for the past four months, suck it up girls, I expect brown faces all round. ;D ;D ;D

____ wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 4:06pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 4:03pm: ____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:59pm: matty wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:32pm: ____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:24pm: True Blue... wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:50am: ____ wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:07am: Now will the coalition go to a DD eletion. Did labor make a mistake in Shorten and WOO HOO to Greens 12% …. keep up the great work. oh yes... the scabby greens are always happy to pick up the scraps like filthy seagulls...  ;D Voters are not scraps and shame on you for calling them so. two, seagulls are not filthy. And three, Greens are not scabby Woody, what's your theory on why the Greens lost so much of their vote last election? The public turned against you guys, at a time when Labor received its lowest vote in years. The pendulum was to the conservatives and even under these conditions Greens achieved there second best vote and retained their first lower house seat. Greens didn't lose votes, we only set them free so they can return when they realise their folly. And look how quick they have. Greens voters are so intelligent. No , having Milne and SHY do media proves you need a PR consultant at the very least Polling disproves your opinion. You leave the thinking to the Greens sweetie.

if i was the CEO of a business with 8% customer approval, i'd be calling in the consultants and heads would roll.  i think rupert had a henchman who used to sack people nicknamed "the axe"  .  i'll get you his number ;) ;)

;D ;Dfifty..... :D ;D TWO..... to.. ::) ::) ;D ;D..forty (FOFL) :D ;D :o eight!

Aaaaaaaaah - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 10:25am:

cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:31am: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 8:03am: Discussing polls at this stage of the term, when a Government has a locked sure majority is about as relevant and sensible as discussing the Polish elections. When a Government is teetering and a minority like last time I get it, but now it's just idiotic. true but the lefties have been delirious .. when abbotts polling went down...so its tit for tat... dont forget he has a hostile senate.. now the greens are giving gay marriage a rest its voting at 16... ::) ::).. more pressure..lol.. I don't buy into the whole Left v Right crap cods. I have my own opinions and no side to cheer for. If "Left" people are focused on polls at this stage then they too are a bunch of idiots. Polling at this stage means absolutely nothing when the Government is not in minority.

well we righties know that andrei... its the gloating lefties.. that pray to polls....remember buzz and his rogue poll... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:41pm:

;D ;Dfifty..... :D ;D TWO..... to.. ::) ::) ;D ;D..forty (FOFL) :D ;D :o eight! Aaaaaaaaah - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....

itttttttts HUGGGGGGGGGGGE

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

matty wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:21pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 2:14pm: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 2:09pm: Don’t read too much into one poll, Sprinty. Polls are interesting but use tiny samples, from 400 (useless) to 1–2K, better but still a lot of variance. There's little township in NSW that always picks the winning party correctly. I've forgotten the name of it. That's where they should do the polling' Probably some place in Eden-Monaro. I think you might be right. That's an electorate.

Yes - I live there and it is a strange mix of people - my end are the law-abiding end.

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 5:43pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 5:41pm: ;D ;Dfifty..... :D ;D TWO..... to.. ::) ::) ;D ;D..forty (FOFL) :D ;D :o eight! Aaaaaaaaah - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... itttttttts HUGGGGGGGGGGGE

It's more than the left could ever hope to overcome......ROFL... bigger than Ben Hur

matty wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 9:30pm:

The Coalition has soared ahead in the latest Nielsen poll. The Coalition is up three points to 44%, Labor down four to 33%, and the Greens are up one to 12%. Bill Shorten's good approval figure has vanished, down 11 points on approval to 40%, and up 10 points on dissaproval to 40%, making his satisfaction to dissatisfaction rating neutral, with 20% uncommitted. Tony Abbott's approval rating is down two to to 45%, and his disapproval up one to 47%, leaving his satisfaction to dissatisfaction rating negative, albeit statistically insignificant, so more or less neutral, with 12% uncommitted. I can't find any PPM ratings, but the important thing is that the coalition leads 52-48 on the 2pp. Australians are waking up after a brief lull, and realising that the Coalition is making the right decision, and is the best equipped party to run our country.  :)

A little ray of sunshine in an otherwise 'summer of discontent', matty???

;)

matty wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 3:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 10:13pm: have you a link to this Matty? can't find it anywhere .... not that I don't trust you but you have been known to sprout the odd bit of crap from time to time. Sorry that I didn't post a link last night, John. I hate typing on iPhone and am not sure how to do so on there. Someone has put one up since, though. Also, I resent that second remark.

I resent that you resent it ....  :D :D :D

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 4:58pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 11:21am: The last poll was a rogue poll and Morgan polls aren't worth the toilet paper they print them on. Um, Labor have  been ahead  in EVERY poll for four months. If a poll was a " rogue poll" it would be this one, you are certainly not Einstein. According to the conga line Neilson is always wrong, but now Neilson have the conga line ahead all of a sudden it's gospel, too funny. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D When all the polls have the conga line ahead then you can crow, but seeing as though that is far from the case I will take great pleasure in rubbing your snotty little noses in your own excrement if the next News poll and others have Labor still in front. AND... The best thing will be seeing as though the conga line have all prematurely ewackulated over this poll none of you can use the excuse that the polls are irrelevant, as you all have done for the past four months, suck it up girls, I expect brown faces all round. ;D ;D ;D

Whatever happens with the polls, the Coalition is still in government, and an election doesn't have to be called until 2017.  :)

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

matty wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:21pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 2:14pm: St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 2:09pm: Don’t read too much into one poll, Sprinty. Polls are interesting but use tiny samples, from 400 (useless) to 1–2K, better but still a lot of variance. There's little township in NSW that always picks the winning party correctly. I've forgotten the name of it. That's where they should do the polling' Probably some place in Eden-Monaro. I think you might be right. That's an electorate.

Yes, it's a big electorate, that stretches from the NSW/Vic border, to the NSW/ACT border.

Lobo wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:09pm:

matty wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 9:30pm: The Coalition has soared ahead in the latest Nielsen poll. The Coalition is up three points to 44%, Labor down four to 33%, and the Greens are up one to 12%. Bill Shorten's good approval figure has vanished, down 11 points on approval to 40%, and up 10 points on dissaproval to 40%, making his satisfaction to dissatisfaction rating neutral, with 20% uncommitted. Tony Abbott's approval rating is down two to to 45%, and his disapproval up one to 47%, leaving his satisfaction to dissatisfaction rating negative, albeit statistically insignificant, so more or less neutral, with 12% uncommitted. I can't find any PPM ratings, but the important thing is that the coalition leads 52-48 on the 2pp. Australians are waking up after a brief lull, and realising that the Coalition is making the right decision, and is the best equipped party to run our country.  :) A little ray of sunshine in an otherwise 'summer of discontent', matty??? ;)

I'm in Darwin, froggie. Summer every day here.  :)

John Smith wrote on Feb 17^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

matty wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 10:13pm: have you a link to this Matty? can't find it anywhere .... not that I don't trust you but you have been known to sprout the odd bit of crap from time to time. Sorry that I didn't post a link last night, John. I hate typing on iPhone and am not sure how to do so on there. Someone has put one up since, though. Also, I resent that second remark. I resent that you resent it ....  :D :D :D

Matty only speals the truth, no crap.

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 7:58am:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 4:58pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 11:21am: The last poll was a rogue poll and Morgan polls aren't worth the toilet paper they print them on. Um, Labor have  been ahead  in EVERY poll for four months. If a poll was a " rogue poll" it would be this one, you are certainly not Einstein. According to the conga line Neilson is always wrong, but now Neilson have the conga line ahead all of a sudden it's gospel, too funny. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D When all the polls have the conga line ahead then you can crow, but seeing as though that is far from the case I will take great pleasure in rubbing your snotty little noses in your own excrement if the next News poll and others have Labor still in front. AND... The best thing will be seeing as though the conga line have all prematurely ewackulated over this poll none of you can use the excuse that the polls are irrelevant, as you all have done for the past four months, suck it up girls, I expect brown faces all round. ;D ;D ;D Whatever happens with the polls, the Coalition is still in government, and an election doesn't have to be called until 2017.  :)

The longer they wait until calling the next election, the more it will become obvious that the Abbott experiment is a bad government.
The longer they wait until calling the next election, the more likely it is that the Coalition will lose the next election.

You had better hope that the next election is called on time and not left until the expiration of the term. The only time a term was allowed to expire (1910), a conservative government was hammered by the Labour Party with a 13 percent swing. Let's hope history repeats.  ;D

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 8:04am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 6:50pm: matty wrote on Feb 17th, 2014 at 3:18pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 10:13pm: have you a link to this Matty? can't find it anywhere .... not that I don't trust you but you have been known to sprout the odd bit of crap from time to time. Sorry that I didn't post a link last night, John. I hate typing on iPhone and am not sure how to do so on there. Someone has put one up since, though. Also, I resent that second remark. I resent that you resent it ....  :D :D :D Matty only speals the truth, no crap.

true, he does speal the truth, but he speaks crap!