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Message started by woody2013 on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:34am

Title: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by woody2013 on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:34am
Craig Thomson fraud trial: Melbourne Magistrates Court expected to hand down decision today
Posted 13 minutes ago

Craig Thomson
PHOTO: If found guilty, Craig Thomson faces a maximum sentence of five years' jail. (AAP: David Crosling)
RELATED STORY: Evidence against Thomson only circumstantial, court toldRELATED STORY: Prostitute's witness statement reveals Thomson was 'regular client'
MAP: Australia
The Melbourne Magistrates Court is today expected to hand down its decision in the criminal trial of former federal MP Craig Thomson.

Thomson has pleaded not guilty to 145 charges of theft and deception relating to the alleged misuse of his union credit card while national secretary of the Health Services Union (HSU).

It is alleged he used the card to pay for prostitutes, pornographic movies and other personal expenses totalling more than $28,000.

If found guilty, he faces a maximum sentence of five years' jail.

A large number of prosecution witnesses were called to give evidence at Thomson's trial, including HSU officials.

Whistleblower Kathy Jackson, who took over as national secretary when Thomson resigned in 2007, described the union as "being like a cult".

A forensic accountant for Victoria Police testified that the money spent included almost $6,000 at a Sydney brothel.

Gerard Curtin said the HSU's accounting system recorded the brothel spending as "entertainment", "teleconferencing", or national office meeting expenses.

One prostitute who used the name Misty also revealed Thomson was a "regular client" who always had a glass of champagne waiting for her.

However, whether or not Thomson used the HSU credit card to pay for expenses such as prostitutes was not the issue in the case.

Thomson did not make any admissions to the court, but the fact the transactions were made was disputed by the defence.

Union authority to use card the crucial issue

Instead, the crucial issues for the court to consider were whether Thomson had the union's authority to use his card for personal expenses and what his state of mind was when he used the card.

Thomson's lawyers argued he had discretion to authorise union expenditure of up to $50,000 without running it past the union's national executive.

Several union witnesses, including the former auditor, also told the court they believed there were no concrete written rules stipulating what union funds could be spent on.

Making the closing submissions for the defence, Greg James QC told the court Thomson had not deceived the union to obtain any property or financial advantage.

He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by The Abzi Party on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:58am
"He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof."

I will laugh if this proves to be a witch hunt!


Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by cods on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:02am

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:58am:
"He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof."

I will laugh if this proves to be a witch hunt!




WHY?... I guess you are not in favour of FAIRWORK then??.. as for it being a laugh...you dont mind small unions with poorly paid members being ripped off..??....

he wasnt alone you know.. but he was the only one with brothels on his credit card. ::) ::)

if he is found not guilty I wonder what will happen to Williamson and Jackson.......

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Alinta on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:05am

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:58am:
"He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof."

I will laugh if this proves to be a witch hunt!


I'm expecting acquittal.............but won't be laughing....


Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:12am
Ah. Today. The sheer chutzpah of this fellow is incredible.

Bold as brass. An exaggerated sense of entitlement to other people's money.


Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by cods on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:20am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:12am:
Ah. Today. The sheer chutzpah of this fellow is incredible.

Bold as brass. An exaggerated sense of entitlement to other people's money.



he will be bac k in the ALP soon as look at him..may even have i his eye on swannies seat... hes got to be next to go.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by John Smith on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:27am

cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:02am:
WHY?... I guess you are not in favour of FAIRWORK then??.. as for it being a laugh...you dont mind small unions with poorly paid members being ripped off..??....


so you've already decided that no matter what the courts find, Thommo is guilty?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by cods on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:48am

cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:20am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:12am:
Ah. Today. The sheer chutzpah of this fellow is incredible.

Bold as brass. An exaggerated sense of entitlement to other people's money.



he will be bac k in the ALP soon as look at him..may even have i his eye on swannies seat... hes got to be next to go.



i thought this would have suggested I think he is going to get off..

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Aussie on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:50am

cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:48am:

cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:20am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:12am:
Ah. Today. The sheer chutzpah of this fellow is incredible.

Bold as brass. An exaggerated sense of entitlement to other people's money.



he will be bac k in the ALP soon as look at him..may even have i his eye on swannies seat... hes got to be next to go.



i thought this would have suggested I think he is going to get off..


Why do you think that, cods?

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Aussie on Feb 18th, 2014 at 10:04am
One of the previous Threads.  Worth a re-read....

Click here.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 18th, 2014 at 10:05am
I hope they hang the lousy thief.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Aussie on Feb 18th, 2014 at 10:32am
Verdict - guilty. 

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 18th, 2014 at 11:06am
Never play poker with this man.

145 charges against him, and he kept a straight face in parliament, and to a thousand media cameras.




Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by progressiveslol on Feb 18th, 2014 at 11:21am

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:58am:
"He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof."

I will laugh if this proves to be a witch hunt!

Typical labor corruption loving response

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by woody2013 on Feb 18th, 2014 at 11:33am

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:58am:
"He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof."

I will laugh if this proves to be a witch hunt!

Typical labor corruption loving response

Craig Thomson fraud trial: Court hands down guilty verdict
Updated 7 minutes ago

Craig Thomson
PHOTO: Craig Thomson was found guilty of obtaining financial advantage by using his HSU credit card. (AAP: Quentin Jones)
RELATED STORY: Evidence against Thomson only circumstantial, court told
MAP: Melbourne 3000
Former federal MP Craig Thomson has been found guilty of obtaining financial advantage by using his Health Services Union (HSU) credit card to pay for sexual services and making cash withdrawals.

In handing down his findings in the Melbourne Magistrates Court, Magistrate Charlie Rozencwajg found Thomson dishonestly used his union cards while national secretary of the HSU.

The magistrate said the court had heard from several union witnesses who made it clear that union credit cards were for business purposes only.

"This must have been known by the accused," Mr Rozencwajg said.

The magistrate acknowledged there was some grey area defining what constituted business use, but he said it would be an affront to think the card could be used to pay for sexual services.

The magistrate is continuing to deliver his ruling on 145 charges.

Thomson was also found guilty of using his card to pay for cigarettes and of some charges relating to paying for spousal travel with his union credit card.

All charges relating to the misuse of union funds to pay for adult movies have been dismissed.

Thomson had pleaded not guilty to the 145 charges of theft and deception relating to the alleged misuse.

It was alleged he used the card to pay for prostitutes, pornographic movies and other personal expenses totalling more than $28,000.

A large number of prosecution witnesses were called to give evidence at Thomson's trial, including HSU officials.

Whistleblower Kathy Jackson, who took over as national secretary when Thomson resigned in 2007, described the union as "being like a cult".

A forensic accountant for Victoria Police testified that the money spent included almost $6,000 at a Sydney brothel.

Gerard Curtin said the HSU's accounting system recorded the brothel spending as "entertainment", "teleconferencing", or national office meeting expenses.

One prostitute who used the name Misty also revealed Thomson was a "regular client" who always had a glass of champagne waiting for her.

However, whether or not Thomson used the HSU credit card to pay for expenses such as prostitutes was not the issue in the case.

Thomson did not give any evidence in the court, but his lawyers did not deny he visited prostitutes and did not dispute evidence he had used his union credit card to pay for their services.

Union authority to use card the crucial issue

Instead, the crucial issues for the court to consider were whether Thomson had the union's authority to use his card for personal expenses and what his state of mind was when he used the card.

Thomson's lawyers argued he had discretion to authorise union expenditure of up to $50,000 without running it past the union's national executive.

Several union witnesses, including the former auditor, also told the court they believed there were no concrete written rules stipulating what union funds could be spent on.

Making the closing submissions for the defence, Greg James QC told the court Thomson had not deceived the union to obtain any property or financial advantage.

He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof.

Prosecutor Lesley Taylor SC reiterated his case that Thomson, as the national secretary, was bound by the rules of the union to use to use union credit cards for official business only.

He argued Thomson lied about his conduct in media interviews and this incriminates him.

However, Mr James told the court that his client was under great pressure at the time of doing those interviews, given his failing marriage and desire to protect his parliamentary career and image, and he was not thinking that what he said would eventually be used against him in a criminal case.

In the past, Thomson has claimed he was set up.

Topics: courts-and-trials, unions, fraud-and-c

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by viewpoint on Feb 18th, 2014 at 11:43am

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:58am:
"He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof."

I will laugh if this proves to be a witch hunt!


Well cry ya moron, this is no "witch hunt" he's been found GUILTY....GUILTY I say!

Hang the kiwi bastard!

By his balls.....  [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:17pm

viewpoint wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 11:43am:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:58am:
"He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof."

I will laugh if this proves to be a witch hunt!


Well cry ya moron, this is no "witch hunt" he's been found GUILTY....GUILTY I say!

Hang the kiwi bastard!

By his balls.....  [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]



Get the rope ready because he also lied to parliament.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:25pm
What scum unions can so often produce...

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:17pm:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 11:43am:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:58am:
"He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof."

I will laugh if this proves to be a witch hunt!


Well cry ya moron, this is no "witch hunt" he's been found GUILTY....GUILTY I say!

Hang the kiwi bastard!

By his balls.....  [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]



Get the rope ready because he also lied to parliament.


Is we gonna have us another lynchin'? Yee-Haaa... !

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by aquascoot on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:03pm
geez,  a judge that speaks common sense.
hope we can get him to assess eddie obeid as well

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by aquascoot on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:05pm
i think he will serve time for this....2 years would be my guess.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:07pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:51pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:17pm:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 11:43am:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:58am:
"He said the prosecution's case was "circumstantial" and had failed to meet the necessary burden of proof."

I will laugh if this proves to be a witch hunt!


Well cry ya moron, this is no "witch hunt" he's been found GUILTY....GUILTY I say!

Hang the kiwi bastard!

By his balls.....  [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]



Get the rope ready because he also lied to parliament.


Is we gonna have us another lynchin'? Yee-Haaa... !



Yep - we're gunna hang em & hang em high.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Dnarever on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:49pm
Looks like the News Limited / Liberal verdict was upheld.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:08pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
Looks like the News Limited / Liberal verdict was upheld.


Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.

Don't be so fricken biased and recognize scum when you see it.

What about all the poor b@stards whose money this guy spent on hookers and flying around business class with his wife?
The lowest paid, some of hardest workers in Australia and this is how he spent their membership money??

Maybe if - just for a second - you put aside your partisan view of the world you'd see he deserves this...
I am disgusted by this bloke.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Aussie on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:12pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:08pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
Looks like the News Limited / Liberal verdict was upheld.


Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.

Don't be so fricken biased and recognize scum when you see it.

What about all the poor b@stards whose money this guy spent on hookers and flying around business class with his wife?
The lowest paid, some of hardest workers in Australia and this is how he spent their membership money??

Maybe if - just for a second - you put aside your partisan view of the world you'd see he deserves this...
I am disgusted by this bloke.


That was not his defence.  Goes to show your fundamental ignorance of the matter. 

Partisan, huh?

:D

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:57pm
You suggesting a court of Australia got it wrong Aussie??

He's guilty!!!

Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.

And had the nerve to accuse the media of upsetting his pregnant wife?
What about the fact several witnesses declared him to be a regular who banged hookers in their brothels.

Scum. Guilty scum too. Very happy about it.
I hope it wrecks his life.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Aussie on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:08pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:57pm:
You suggesting a court of Australia got it wrong Aussie??

He's guilty!!!

Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.

And had the nerve to accuse the media of upsetting his pregnant wife?
What about the fact several witnesses declared him to be a regular who banged hookers in their brothels.

Scum. Guilty scum too. Very happy about it.
I hope it wrecks his life.


Mr Hicks.  Let's not be seen as dishonest here.  You said:


Quote:
Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.
 

You are absolutely wrong ~ that was nowhere near his 'defence,' ~ but I guess it is beyond your personal and arrogant 'dignity' tolerance levels to just simply admit that you got that wrong.

Bloke, you are digging the hole.

:-?

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by mantra on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:09pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:57pm:
Scum. Guilty scum too. Very happy about it.
I hope it wrecks his life.


I would think his life is already wrecked.


Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

Quote:
Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.


That was not his defence.  Goes to show your fundamental ignorance of the matter.


The defence his lawyers used wasn't great, but it was all they had. Maybe from a legal perspective it could have worked, but from a moral stance - definitely not. If anything it put the unions in an even worse light.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Grendel on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:27pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:08pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
Looks like the News Limited / Liberal verdict was upheld.


Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.

Don't be so fricken biased and recognize scum when you see it.

What about all the poor b@stards whose money this guy spent on hookers and flying around business class with his wife?
The lowest paid, some of hardest workers in Australia and this is how he spent their membership money??

Maybe if - just for a second - you put aside your partisan view of the world you'd see he deserves this...
I am disgusted by this bloke.


That was not his defence.  Goes to show your fundamental ignorance of the matter. 

Partisan, huh?

:D

Still in denial of his guilt and lies I see Aussie... :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Aussie on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:32pm
Mr Grendel.....this..........


Quote:
Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.


.......was not his defence.

Do you agree?

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:45pm
There was no defence.

Personally what I find most appalling is that there were those who were happy to have it drag out just so he could remain in parliament and prolong the life of that last car crash of a minority Government.

I take a high stand on morals and banging hookers using the money of the lowest paid workers in the country is about as low as they come.
Did anyone stop and think for a minute about the low paid guys whose money this was?

No of course not, just petty partisan politics.
Shame on them all.

I hope his whole life is wrecked. He deserves it.

I'm not partisan. My views are the same for that repugnant filthy homosexual ex speaker too.
He deserves a public flogging as well.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:47pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:08pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
Looks like the News Limited / Liberal verdict was upheld.


Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.

Don't be so fricken biased and recognize scum when you see it.

What about all the poor b@stards whose money this guy spent on hookers and flying around business class with his wife?
The lowest paid, some of hardest workers in Australia and this is how he spent their membership money??

Maybe if - just for a second - you put aside your partisan view of the world you'd see he deserves this...
I am disgusted by this bloke.


That was not his defence.  Goes to show your fundamental ignorance of the matter. 

Partisan, huh?

:D

Still in denial of his guilt and lies I see Aussie... :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D


He is guilty. That's the official answer.

If Aussie is 100% against it, then we should look for the hand of Palmer in this somewhere.
Aussie is Clive's hand on here.

I saw it on Palmer TV on loop  ;D

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by cods on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:28pm

mantra wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:57pm:
Scum. Guilty scum too. Very happy about it.
I hope it wrecks his life.


I would think his life is already wrecked.

MANTRA HE IS THE ONE THATS DRAGGED THIS OUT....HE COULD HAVE PUT HIS HAND UP AND SAID YEP I DID IT..BUT HE DIDNT HE TRIED HIS LEVEL BEST TO BLAME ANYONE ELSE... HE EVEN CLAIMED HE PAID BACK $15000......WHY WOULD HE DO THAT??.. IF HE DIDNT STEAL IT IN THE FIRST PLACE..... AS IT WAS IT WASNT HE THAT PAID IT BACK IT WAS JACKSONS EX HUSBAND..BUT HE TRIED DIDNT HE??????

HE ALSO SUED THE SMH...CLAIMING THEY FALSELY ACCUSED HIM... THEN BACKED AWAY...



Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

Quote:
Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.


That was not his defence.  Goes to show your fundamental ignorance of the matter.


HE DID CLAIM OVER AND OVER AGAIN.. EVERYTHING WAS STOLEN...INCLUDING HIS DRIVERS LICENCE.. IT WASNT UNTIL IT WENT TO COURT THAT HE STOPPED DOING THAT.



The defence his lawyers used wasn't great, but it was all they had. Maybe from a legal perspective it could have worked, but from a moral stance - definitely not. If anything it put the unions in an even worse light.





HE WAS GUTLESS AND A CREEP... GOD ONLY KNOWS WHOS PAYING FOR ALL THIS... BUT YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR IT ISNT HIM..HES A CREEP OF THE WORST KIND...AND POINTING THE FINGER AT SOMEONE ELSE.. IS THE PITS...I TRUST THEY THROW THE BOOK AT HIM.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Grendel on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:42pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:32pm:
Mr Grendel.....this..........


Quote:
Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.


.......was not his defence.

Do you agree?

Hate to tell you yet again...  but it has always been HIS defence

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 19th, 2014 at 5:13am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:45pm:
I hope his whole life is wrecked. He deserves it.

I'm not partisan. My views are the same for that repugnant filthy homosexual ex speaker too.

He deserves a public flogging as well.


'Mussel-man'? What a vile creature he turned out to be. Between him and 'Brothel-man' they made our parliament look very shabby indeed. And then wasn't Julia involved in some sort of shady money-lending deal to a former boyfriend?

 

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Generation X on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:59am

cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:28pm:

mantra wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:09pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:57pm:
Scum. Guilty scum too. Very happy about it.
I hope it wrecks his life.


I would think his life is already wrecked.

MANTRA HE IS THE ONE THATS DRAGGED THIS OUT....HE COULD HAVE PUT HIS HAND UP AND SAID YEP I DID IT..BUT HE DIDNT HE TRIED HIS LEVEL BEST TO BLAME ANYONE ELSE... HE EVEN CLAIMED HE PAID BACK $15000......WHY WOULD HE DO THAT??.. IF HE DIDNT STEAL IT IN THE FIRST PLACE..... AS IT WAS IT WASNT HE THAT PAID IT BACK IT WAS JACKSONS EX HUSBAND..BUT HE TRIED DIDNT HE??????

HE ALSO SUED THE SMH...CLAIMING THEY FALSELY ACCUSED HIM... THEN BACKED AWAY...



Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 7:12pm:

Quote:
Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.


That was not his defence.  Goes to show your fundamental ignorance of the matter.


HE DID CLAIM OVER AND OVER AGAIN.. EVERYTHING WAS STOLEN...INCLUDING HIS DRIVERS LICENCE.. IT WASNT UNTIL IT WENT TO COURT THAT HE STOPPED DOING THAT.



The defence his lawyers used wasn't great, but it was all they had. Maybe from a legal perspective it could have worked, but from a moral stance - definitely not. If anything it put the unions in an even worse light.





HE WAS GUTLESS AND A CREEP... GOD ONLY KNOWS WHOS PAYING FOR ALL THIS... BUT YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR IT ISNT HIM..HES A CREEP OF THE WORST KIND...AND POINTING THE FINGER AT SOMEONE ELSE.. IS THE PITS...I TRUST THEY THROW THE BOOK AT HIM.


Dillard and Dudd should be next in line.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by mantra on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:09am

cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:28pm:
MANTRA HE IS THE ONE THATS DRAGGED THIS OUT....HE COULD HAVE PUT HIS HAND UP AND SAID YEP I DID IT..BUT HE DIDNT HE TRIED HIS LEVEL BEST TO BLAME ANYONE ELSE... HE EVEN CLAIMED HE PAID BACK $15000......WHY WOULD HE DO THAT??.. IF HE DIDNT STEAL IT IN THE FIRST PLACE..... AS IT WAS IT WASNT HE THAT PAID IT BACK IT WAS JACKSONS EX HUSBAND..BUT HE TRIED DIDNT HE??????

HE ALSO SUED THE SMH...CLAIMING THEY FALSELY ACCUSED HIM... THEN BACKED AWAY...



Obviously Thompson is a liar and it says a lot for our politicians generally. Most of them are liars. They don't offer transparency or truth and usually we don't have a clue what they're up to.

The Coalition haven't kept their hands clean either. Last time they were in government - a couple of them were caught with their hands in the till. The same thing happened when they were in opposition - smaller, less obvious rorts - but rorts all the same.

In Thompson's case he has caused enormous damage - not only to Labor, but to the unions as well.

Maybe he'll get 12 months.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Dnarever on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:13am

Grendel wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:32pm:
Mr Grendel.....this..........


Quote:
Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.


.......was not his defence.

Do you agree?

Hate to tell you yet again...  but it has always been HIS defence


Rubbish. He said that he had been threatened to be ruined through accusations about prostitutes.

A copy of his credit card was on file - there was no need for anyone to steel his card.

The Australian media had charged convicted and sentenced Thomson 3 years ago now a legitimate court has upheld that previous media driven decision.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:17am

mantra wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:09am:
Maybe he'll get 12 months.


That will be very 'hard time' for him away from all those brothels. It's possible he'll jump-the-fence while he's in jail just to get his rocks off. I have a feeling he's going to spend an awful lot of time in the showers.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by cods on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:24am

mantra wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:09am:

cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:28pm:
MANTRA HE IS THE ONE THATS DRAGGED THIS OUT....HE COULD HAVE PUT HIS HAND UP AND SAID YEP I DID IT..BUT HE DIDNT HE TRIED HIS LEVEL BEST TO BLAME ANYONE ELSE... HE EVEN CLAIMED HE PAID BACK $15000......WHY WOULD HE DO THAT??.. IF HE DIDNT STEAL IT IN THE FIRST PLACE..... AS IT WAS IT WASNT HE THAT PAID IT BACK IT WAS JACKSONS EX HUSBAND..BUT HE TRIED DIDNT HE??????

HE ALSO SUED THE SMH...CLAIMING THEY FALSELY ACCUSED HIM... THEN BACKED AWAY...



Obviously Thompson is a liar and it says a lot for our politicians generally. Most of them are liars. They don't offer transparency or truth and usually we don't have a clue what they're up to.

The Coalition haven't kept their hands clean either. Last time they were in government - a couple of them were caught with their hands in the till. The same thing happened when they were in opposition - smaller, less obvious rorts - but rorts all the same.

In Thompson's case he has caused enormous damage - not only to Labor, but to the unions as well.

Maybe he'll get 12 months.




and so were a couple of lefties.. mantra one GIllard and one KRUDD also paid back money to the finance dept.

some how I draw the line at supporting someone for 12 months or more..and then when finally it comes down to this guy does have something to answer for... instead of suspending him they tell him to shift to the independent benches...I MEAN COME ON.....

they already paid a huge sum to his lawyers to keep him in parliament...even though they knew about the claims against him..  ::) ::) ::) ::)

he wasnt charged in court,but you can see by what the HSU is saying he took....

he used their money to get into parliament in the first place... stolen money mantra???


and then untold support whilst he sat there pretending butter wouldnt melt..grrrrrrrr

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by cods on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:26am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:17am:

mantra wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:09am:
Maybe he'll get 12 months.


That will be very 'hard time' for him away from all those brothels. It's possible he'll jump-the-fence while he's in jail just to get his rocks off. I have a feeling he's going to spend an awful lot of time in the showers.



have a look kin feedback herb.. wiseone is complaining about too many THOMO threads..LOLOLOL

he sure as hell doesnt like being a loser does he.. he has supported thomo through thick and thin...  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I wouldnt be surprised if they are related..

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Dnarever on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:30am

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:26am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:17am:

mantra wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:09am:
Maybe he'll get 12 months.


That will be very 'hard time' for him away from all those brothels. It's possible he'll jump-the-fence while he's in jail just to get his rocks off. I have a feeling he's going to spend an awful lot of time in the showers.



have a look kin feedback herb.. wiseone is complaining about too many THOMO threads..LOLOLOL

he sure as hell doesnt like being a loser does he.. he has supported thomo through thick and thin... 

I wouldnt be surprised if they are related..



I would think you can win just as well on one topic as seventeen, actually more definitively.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by cods on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:33am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:13am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:32pm:
Mr Grendel.....this..........


Quote:
Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.


.......was not his defence.

Do you agree?

Hate to tell you yet again...  but it has always been HIS defence


Rubbish. He said that he had been threatened to be ruined through accusations about prostitutes.

A copy of his credit card was on file - there was no need for anyone to steel his card.

The Australian media had charged convicted and sentenced Thomson 3 years ago now a legitimate court has upheld that previous media driven decision.




sorry dna.. he claimed over and over it was someone else.. and you know full well it was\nt just the credit card.. dont you??...how funny his drivers licence his mobile his room even was all used by this THIEF>

and then guess what THOMO signed off on them all back at the office... funny that...


yet he stopped another employee of the union..who used the HSU credit card to book a magazine subscription........... ::) ::) ::).. shock horror..


kind of twisted morality there...

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by cods on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:34am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:30am:

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:26am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:17am:

mantra wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:09am:
Maybe he'll get 12 months.


That will be very 'hard time' for him away from all those brothels. It's possible he'll jump-the-fence while he's in jail just to get his rocks off. I have a feeling he's going to spend an awful lot of time in the showers.



have a look kin feedback herb.. wiseone is complaining about too many THOMO threads..LOLOLOL

he sure as hell doesnt like being a loser does he.. he has supported thomo through thick and thin... 

I wouldnt be surprised if they are related..



I would think you can win just as well on one topic as seventeen, actually more definitively.




yep I have started a one only Abbott thread campaign.. dna you may want to sign up for it... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Dnarever on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:38am

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:34am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:30am:

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:26am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:17am:

mantra wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:09am:
Maybe he'll get 12 months.


That will be very 'hard time' for him away from all those brothels. It's possible he'll jump-the-fence while he's in jail just to get his rocks off. I have a feeling he's going to spend an awful lot of time in the showers.



have a look kin feedback herb.. wiseone is complaining about too many THOMO threads..LOLOLOL

he sure as hell doesnt like being a loser does he.. he has supported thomo through thick and thin... 

I wouldnt be surprised if they are related..



I would think you can win just as well on one topic as seventeen, actually more definitively.




yep I have started a one only Abbott thread campaign.. dna you may want to sign up for it...


Just like we had a one only Rudd or Gillard topic last term ???

I think the PM can have an impact on a number of very different topics, the economy performance and asylum seekers for instance have nothing in common except for the mismanagement and incompetence.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:10am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:45pm:
There was no defence.

Personally what I find most appalling is that there were those who were happy to have it drag out just so he could remain in parliament and prolong the life of that last car crash of a minority Government.

I take a high stand on morals and banging hookers using the money of the lowest paid workers in the country is about as low as they come.
Did anyone stop and think for a minute about the low paid guys whose money this was?

No of course not, just petty partisan politics.
Shame on them all.

I hope his whole life is wrecked. He deserves it.

I'm not partisan. My views are the same for that repugnant filthy homosexual ex speaker too.
He deserves a public flogging as well.


Hear hear Andrei,
we can be friends after this.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Grendel on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:24am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:13am:

Grendel wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:32pm:
Mr Grendel.....this..........


Quote:
Yeah because his defence someone stole his card and then put it back was air tight.


.......was not his defence.

Do you agree?

Hate to tell you yet again...  but it has always been HIS defence


Rubbish. He said that he had been threatened to be ruined through accusations about prostitutes.

A copy of his credit card was on file - there was no need for anyone to steel his card.

The Australian media had charged convicted and sentenced Thomson 3 years ago now a legitimate court has upheld that previous media driven decision.

He lied....  even Laurie Oakes laughed at him and his lies...

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:45am

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:26am:
have a look kin feedback herb.. wiseone is complaining about too many THOMO threads..LOLOLOL

he sure as hell doesnt like being a loser does he.. he has supported thomo through thick and thin...  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I wouldnt be surprised if they are related..


Craig's going to have an arse you could drive a bus through by the time he gets out of jail.

We can only hope.

He reminds me too much of the investment company managers who went bankrupt and left thousands of 'Mums and dads' investors flat-broke for the rest of their life after losing all their savings.

These kind of people can rot in hell. The suicides, the despair, the grieving over the loss of expected 'golden retirement years'.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:51am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:45am:

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:26am:
have a look kin feedback herb.. wiseone is complaining about too many THOMO threads..LOLOLOL

he sure as hell doesnt like being a loser does he.. he has supported thomo through thick and thin...  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I wouldnt be surprised if they are related..


Craig's going to have an arse you could drive a bus through by the time he gets out of jail.

We can only hope.

He reminds me too much of the investment company managers who went bankrupt and left thousands of 'Mums and dads' investors flat-broke for the rest of their life after losing all their savings.

These kind of people can rot in hell. The suicides, the despair, the grieving over the loss of expected 'golden retirement years'.



Yes - Craig will have a sore bum every day
but this is not the type of language a moderator should use.

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:08am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:51am:
but this is not the type of language a moderator should use.

forgiven

namaste


Correction: A double-decker through his derriere.  :)

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:12am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:51am:
but this is not the type of language a moderator should use.

forgiven

namaste


Correction: A double-decker through his derriere.  :)



That's better.   ;D

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:29am

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:12am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:51am:
but this is not the type of language a moderator should use.

forgiven

namaste


Correction: A double-decker through his derriere.  :)



That's better.   ;D


Let's see if he can keep a straight face when Big Bruce sees him drop his soap in the showers...

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 12:18pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:12am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:51am:
but this is not the type of language a moderator should use.

forgiven

namaste


Correction: A double-decker through his derriere.  :)



That's better.   ;D


Let's see if he can keep a straight face when Big Bruce sees him drop his soap in the showers...



Actually it's shocking that people in jail get sodomised -

the dirty filthy animals that exist there.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by laborarecorrupt on Feb 19th, 2014 at 1:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 10:05am:
I hope they hang the lousy thief.



Could think of nothing better for the scumbag

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 19th, 2014 at 1:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 12:18pm:
Actually it's shocking that people in jail get sodomised -

the dirty filthy animals that exist there.


Don't take me for a Lefty ~ but to save some of the young ones from rape I would allow for frequent visits by wives, girlfriends and prostitutes as they do in some countries.



Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by cods on Feb 19th, 2014 at 2:10pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:38am:

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:34am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:30am:

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:26am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:17am:

mantra wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:09am:
Maybe he'll get 12 months.


That will be very 'hard time' for him away from all those brothels. It's possible he'll jump-the-fence while he's in jail just to get his rocks off. I have a feeling he's going to spend an awful lot of time in the showers.



have a look kin feedback herb.. wiseone is complaining about too many THOMO threads..LOLOLOL

he sure as hell doesnt like being a loser does he.. he has supported thomo through thick and thin... 

I wouldnt be surprised if they are related..



I would think you can win just as well on one topic as seventeen, actually more definitively.




yep I have started a one only Abbott thread campaign.. dna you may want to sign up for it...


Just like we had a one only Rudd or Gillard topic last term ???

I think the PM can have an impact on a number of very different topics, the economy performance and asylum seekers for instance have nothing in common except for the mismanagement and incompetence.





good for you you have finally admitted they were incompetent and mismanaged everything.. thanks dna..we have been pointing it out to you for 6 ,loooooooooog year how bad that labor govt was.. god they couldnt even stand each other.. ::) ::)

and supporting a toerag like THOMO was the pits.. so glad you have admitted that after all these years..



hopeless every last one of them...labor should remain in exile for many years to come.




Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 19th, 2014 at 2:30pm

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 2:10pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:38am:

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:34am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:30am:

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:26am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:17am:

mantra wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:09am:
Maybe he'll get 12 months.


That will be very 'hard time' for him away from all those brothels. It's possible he'll jump-the-fence while he's in jail just to get his rocks off. I have a feeling he's going to spend an awful lot of time in the showers.



have a look kin feedback herb.. wiseone is complaining about too many THOMO threads..LOLOLOL

he sure as hell doesnt like being a loser does he.. he has supported thomo through thick and thin... 

I wouldnt be surprised if they are related..



I would think you can win just as well on one topic as seventeen, actually more definitively.




yep I have started a one only Abbott thread campaign.. dna you may want to sign up for it...


Just like we had a one only Rudd or Gillard topic last term ???

I think the PM can have an impact on a number of very different topics, the economy performance and asylum seekers for instance have nothing in common except for the mismanagement and incompetence.





good for you you have finally admitted they were incompetent and mismanaged everything.. thanks dna..we have been pointing it out to you for 6 ,loooooooooog year how bad that labor govt was.. god they couldnt even stand each other.. ::) ::)

and supporting a toerag like THOMO was the pits.. so glad you have admitted that after all these years..



hopeless every last one of them...labor should remain in exile for many years to come.


It would seem Cods, that you may have a little problem, something like Maqqa, with the 3R's?




Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Karnal on Feb 19th, 2014 at 3:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 12:18pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:29am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:12am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 10:08am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:51am:
but this is not the type of language a moderator should use.

forgiven

namaste


Correction: A double-decker through his derriere.  :)



That's better.   ;D


Let's see if he can keep a straight face when Big Bruce sees him drop his soap in the showers...



Actually it's shocking that people in jail get sodomised -

the dirty filthy animals that exist there.


Not that there's anything wrong with it.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:22pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 12:18pm:
Actually it's shocking that people in jail get sodomised -

the dirty filthy animals that exist there.


Not that there's anything wrong with it.


I can feel a confession coming on ...

The squeak of rusty hinges to a closet being slowly opened ...

I've been wondering where his bitchy petulance comes from.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:37pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 12:18pm:
Actually it's shocking that people in jail get sodomised -

the dirty filthy animals that exist there.


Not that there's anything wrong with it.


I can feel a confession coming on ...

The squeak of rusty hinges to a closet being slowly opened ...

I've been wondering where his bitchy petulance comes from.



Karnal is a confessed fruit.

He is forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:41pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:37pm:
Karnal is a confessed fruit.

He is forgiven

namaste


I think the boyz down at the gym might have scrambled his brains a little by screwing him from the wrong end all these years.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:43pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:37pm:
Karnal is a confessed fruit.

He is forgiven

namaste


I think the boyz down at the gym might have scrambled his brains a little by screwing him from the wrong end all these years.



No it happened while he did military service -
there was a shortage of holes with all those bloke around.

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by Herbert on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:55pm
Are we gonna have another lynchin' Bobby? YEEEEE-HAAAAAA!!  ;D

Title: Re: Craig (SLEAZE) Thompson decision today
Post by bobbythebat1 on Feb 19th, 2014 at 5:17pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 4:55pm:
Are we gonna have another lynchin' Bobby? YEEEEE-HAAAAAA!!  ;D



No - I think sodomites should just be horse whipped & placed in stocks.

We'll leave the hanging list for :

murderers,
rapists
thieves
pedophiles
terrorists



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