No wonder Labor didn't want this to go ahead

Hang em.

Does that make the carbon tax void?  Given that it was passed on the vote of a criminal?

Swagman wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

Does that make the carbon tax void?  Given that it was passed on the vote of a criminal?

You would think that, wouldn't you?

"Oh, that person is now a criminal, we better cancel all laws passed with their help."

How much money would that cost?

I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large.

Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key.

But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing.

I'm awaiting me a hanging.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:10pm:

Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key.

You want the man jailed for life!!!

You people have lost the line between rational commentary and hysteria.

FriYAY wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. You want the man jailed for life!!! You people have lost the line between rational commentary and hysteria.

You clearly missed the point. Back to your biscuits :)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:10pm:

Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing.

Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:20pm:

FriYAY wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:19pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. You want the man jailed for life!!! You people have lost the line between rational commentary and hysteria. You clearly missed the point. Back to your biscuits :)

Did somebody say biscuits?

Oo-er. I've got a stale Sao if you're interested, FriYay.

I'm full. The old boy kindly provided lunch.

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing. Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man.

matty, you'd have to be missing a lobe to think it's okay to do prosecution and judgement, OF A CRIME, by newspaper.

And that's the point.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:24pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing. Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man. matty, you'd have to be missing a lobe to think it's okay to do prosecution and judgement, OF A CRIME, by newspaper. And that's the point.

I understood/understand the point that you made/are making, but my point is that people made up false, unfair and above all else, completely illogical, allegations against these people, and they supported Thomson's speech in parliament, which is now found out to be full of lies.

Will these people now have the grace and humility to apologise and admit that they were wrong?

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:26pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:24pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing. Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man. matty, you'd have to be missing a lobe to think it's okay to do prosecution and judgement, OF A CRIME, by newspaper. And that's the point. I understood/understand the point that you made/are making, but my point is that people made up false, unfair and above all else, completely illogical, allegations against these people, and they supported Thomson's speech in parliament, which is now found out to be full of lies. Will these people now have the grace and humility to apologise and admit that they were wrong?

So if you understand my point, would you agree that it was not the place of Tony Abbott, then opposition leader, to try and perform the prosecution of a CRIME from opposition benches? Do you agree that Tony ABbott should  have immediately left it to the police to do their job - which would seem that they were able to do, after all?   As opposed to undermine the entire system for the sake of political point scoring?

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing. Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man.

LINDY CHAMBERLIAN

ANDREW MALLARD

ROSEANNE BECKETT

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:20pm:

FriYAY wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:19pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. You want the man jailed for life!!! You people have lost the line between rational commentary and hysteria. You clearly missed the point.

You actually made a point!!! Wow you're working your way up to half wit.

FriYAY wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:45pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:20pm: FriYAY wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:19pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. You want the man jailed for life!!! You people have lost the line between rational commentary and hysteria. You clearly missed the point. You actually made a point!!! Wow you're working your way up to half wit.

:)

Silly bum has eaten all his biscuits.

No problems, silly bum, here have some more:
http://about-australia-shop.com/images/static-arnotts002.jpg

Now, off you go and enjoy - and please, while you munch away on all those biscuits, do us all a favour and stop trolling? :)

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:33pm:

matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:31pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:26pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:24pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing. Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man. matty, you'd have to be missing a lobe to think it's okay to do prosecution and judgement, OF A CRIME, by newspaper. And that's the point. I understood/understand the point that you made/are making, but my point is that people made up false, unfair and above all else, completely illogical, allegations against these people, and they supported Thomson's speech in parliament, which is now found out to be full of lies. Will these people now have the grace and humility to apologise and admit that they were wrong? So if you understand my point, would you agree that it was not the place of Tony Abbott, then opposition leader, to try and perform the prosecution of a CRIME from opposition benches? Do you agree that Tony ABbott should  have immediately left it to the police to do their job - which would seem that they were able to do, after all?   As opposed to undermine the entire system for the sake of political point scoring?

You still haven't answered my question.

Abbott didn't try to prosecute Thomson, what he did was say that he needed to explain what he did. Thomson just remained quiet for a while, and that made him look even more suspicious. The Coalition ran with it thereafter, because they could see what was obvious to anyone with half a brain - Thomson was guilty!

Now, ask yourself this - why did Gillard (eventually) remove him before he was found to be guilty by the courts?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:39pm:

matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:24pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing. Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man. LINDY CHAMBERLIAN ANDREW MALLARD ROSEANNE BECKETT

I am not aware of Roseanne Beckett, but as for the other two, it's chalk and cheese. There was no evidence that Lindy Chamberlain did anything to Azaria.

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:39pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:33pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:31pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:26pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:24pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing. Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man. matty, you'd have to be missing a lobe to think it's okay to do prosecution and judgement, OF A CRIME, by newspaper. And that's the point. I understood/understand the point that you made/are making, but my point is that people made up false, unfair and above all else, completely illogical, allegations against these people, and they supported Thomson's speech in parliament, which is now found out to be full of lies. Will these people now have the grace and humility to apologise and admit that they were wrong? So if you understand my point, would you agree that it was not the place of Tony Abbott, then opposition leader, to try and perform the prosecution of a CRIME from opposition benches? Do you agree that Tony ABbott should  have immediately left it to the police to do their job - which would seem that they were able to do, after all?   As opposed to undermine the entire system for the sake of political point scoring? You still haven't answered my question. Abbott didn't try to prosecute Thomson, what he did was say that he needed to explain what he did. Thomson just remained quite for a while, and that made him look even more suspicious. The Coalition ran with it thereafter, because they could see what was obvious to anyone with half a brain - Thomson was guilty! Now, ask yourself this - why did Gillard (eventually) remove him before he was found to be guilty by the courts?

As an English major matty, you should know that it's quiet, and not quite. ;)

Abbott did nothing but try to prosecute Thomson. He thought he could be judge and juror, instead of letting the NORMAL process go its course.

I'm glad you agree with me on that point, it's a shame that you support it however.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:49pm:

matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:39pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:33pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:31pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:26pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:24pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing. Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man. matty, you'd have to be missing a lobe to think it's okay to do prosecution and judgement, OF A CRIME, by newspaper. And that's the point. I understood/understand the point that you made/are making, but my point is that people made up false, unfair and above all else, completely illogical, allegations against these people, and they supported Thomson's speech in parliament, which is now found out to be full of lies. Will these people now have the grace and humility to apologise and admit that they were wrong? So if you understand my point, would you agree that it was not the place of Tony Abbott, then opposition leader, to try and perform the prosecution of a CRIME from opposition benches? Do you agree that Tony ABbott should  have immediately left it to the police to do their job - which would seem that they were able to do, after all?   As opposed to undermine the entire system for the sake of political point scoring? You still haven't answered my question. Abbott didn't try to prosecute Thomson, what he did was say that he needed to explain what he did. Thomson just remained quite for a while, and that made him look even more suspicious. The Coalition ran with it thereafter, because they could see what was obvious to anyone with half a brain - Thomson was guilty! Now, ask yourself this - why did Gillard (eventually) remove him before he was found to be guilty by the courts? As an English major matty, you should know that it's quiet, and not quite. ;) Abbott did nothing but try to prosecute Thomson. He thought he could be judge and juror, instead of letting the NORMAL process go its course. I'm glad you agree with me on that point, it's a shame that you support it however.

Unfortunately auto correct doesn't account for typos when the typos are real words.

I disagree with you about abbott. Why hasn't you answered my question/s yet? I answered your's.

Quote:

I answered your's.

Matty's an English major, you say?

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:53pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:49pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:39pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:33pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:31pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:26pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:24pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing. Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man. matty, you'd have to be missing a lobe to think it's okay to do prosecution and judgement, OF A CRIME, by newspaper. And that's the point. I understood/understand the point that you made/are making, but my point is that people made up false, unfair and above all else, completely illogical, allegations against these people, and they supported Thomson's speech in parliament, which is now found out to be full of lies. Will these people now have the grace and humility to apologise and admit that they were wrong? So if you understand my point, would you agree that it was not the place of Tony Abbott, then opposition leader, to try and perform the prosecution of a CRIME from opposition benches? Do you agree that Tony ABbott should  have immediately left it to the police to do their job - which would seem that they were able to do, after all?   As opposed to undermine the entire system for the sake of political point scoring? You still haven't answered my question. Abbott didn't try to prosecute Thomson, what he did was say that he needed to explain what he did. Thomson just remained quite for a while, and that made him look even more suspicious. The Coalition ran with it thereafter, because they could see what was obvious to anyone with half a brain - Thomson was guilty! Now, ask yourself this - why did Gillard (eventually) remove him before he was found to be guilty by the courts? As an English major matty, you should know that it's quiet, and not quite. ;) Abbott did nothing but try to prosecute Thomson. He thought he could be judge and juror, instead of letting the NORMAL process go its course. I'm glad you agree with me on that point, it's a shame that you support it however. Unfortunately auto correct doesn't account for typos when the typos are real words. I disagree with you about abbott. Why hasn't you answered my question/s yet? I answered your's.

Your's is also incorrect.

Come on Matty!

I didn't see it that way, I only saw that you agreed with me on Tony and his complete disregard for the judicial process.

Aussie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

Quote: I answered your's. Matty's an English major, you say?

He claims to be.  That's why he always tells us when we have spelling mistakes.

It's interesting to reflect on Thomson's booster, our very own Wild One and the tosh he used to drag in here from Independent Australia. I can imagine that Wild One is out there trying to convince anyone prepared to listen that Melbourne magistrate  Charlie Rozencwajg delivered his findings without the benefit of reading Independent Australia first. What a silly magistrate.

For the record:


Quote:

Jacksonville 63: the "doomed" prosecution case against Craig Thomson. In a Melbourne court yesterday, the shambolic prosecution case against Craig Thomson toppled and teetered even closer to total collapse. Peter Wicks reports. YESTERDAY, in the Melbourne Magistrates Court, Craig Thomson was left scratching his head. In what has been the latest bizarre event in the whole saga surrounding the former MP, the prosecution in the criminal case have gone all schizophrenic on us, offering one thing and doing another. Sources close to the case have told IA of the prosecution approaching Thomson with an offer they likely hoped would be too good ‒ or Thomson too broke ‒ to refuse. [...] 6 December 2013 | Jacksonville 66: Thomson in Court — Days 3 and 4 4 December 2013 | Jacksonville 65: Craig Thomson Trial Day Two — Hogwashgate 2 December 2013 | Jacksonville 64: Craig Thomson's trial by media 27 November 2013 | Jacksonville 63: The "doomed" prosecution case against Craig Thomson 21 November 2013 | Tony Abbott's torturous patrol boat diplomacy 17 October 2013 | Jacksonville 61: A licence to print money 16 October 2013 | The choice of rank and file: To reform Labor or toe the line 14 October 2013 | Unrepresentative ALP caucus snubs its membership again 11 October 2013 | Jacksonville 60: Fair Work Commission case against Thomson collapses 10 October 2013 | Jacksonville 59: Absent without leave 27 September 2013 | Shorten admirable but Albo FTW 26 September 2013 | Coalition refugee policy and our Global Backyard 13 September 2013 | Jacksonville 58: The Australian vs Craig Thomson Et phuking c. http://www.independentaustralia.net/profile-on/peter-wicks,73

Anyone in need of sh!t paper should contact IA. It has an endless supply.

This couldn't have all gone onto the other topic  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] about the same thing ????

Aussie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

Quote: I answered your's. Matty's an English major, you say?

Sorry, I make a lot of typos/errors when using my iphone., that I ordinarily wouldn't.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:04pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:03pm: Quote: I answered your's. Matty's an English major, you say? He claims to be.  That's why he always tells us when we have spelling mistakes.

No I didn't. I said that I scored 93 in the HSC.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

This couldn't have all gone onto the other topic  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] about the same thing ????

Stiff! the pricks  GUILTY ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:10pm:

Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing.

not according to lefties on here......in fact some will still come out hollering he was robbed due to News Ltd reporting what he did..

remember they didnt make it up.. it was only reporting..the evidence.


now if you read the Independent.. you will get an entirely different report on what happened in court... ::) ::)

everyone there said he was fixed up.. he was innocent..even the judge 8-) from what little I remember of the tosh.

Well, that is the legal system for you.

I hope a real exploiter of HSU union members, Kathy Jackson, is also found guilty. Couldn’t believe the ABC STILL describing her as a “whistleblower!” No doubt there will be an appeal.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:04pm:

matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:53pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:49pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 2:39pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:33pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:31pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:26pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:24pm: sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:10pm: Now that the judicial system has taken its course and the outcome is GUILTY, throw him in a cage and chuck away the key. But that's the DIFFERENCE matty: It's the JUDICIAL SYSTEM that decides. NOT News Ltd, or Tony, or people with half a lobe missing. Alevine, you'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see that he was guilty from day one, it was blatantly obvious. Yet that didn't stop lefties on here (I don't think that you did but others) from saying that it was a conspiracy orchestrated by the likes of Jackson, Bolano, Abbott and the Liberal party at large, and that Thomson was an innocent man. matty, you'd have to be missing a lobe to think it's okay to do prosecution and judgement, OF A CRIME, by newspaper. And that's the point. I understood/understand the point that you made/are making, but my point is that people made up false, unfair and above all else, completely illogical, allegations against these people, and they supported Thomson's speech in parliament, which is now found out to be full of lies. Will these people now have the grace and humility to apologise and admit that they were wrong? So if you understand my point, would you agree that it was not the place of Tony Abbott, then opposition leader, to try and perform the prosecution of a CRIME from opposition benches? Do you agree that Tony ABbott should  have immediately left it to the police to do their job - which would seem that they were able to do, after all?   As opposed to undermine the entire system for the sake of political point scoring? You still haven't answered my question. Abbott didn't try to prosecute Thomson, what he did was say that he needed to explain what he did. Thomson just remained quite for a while, and that made him look even more suspicious. The Coalition ran with it thereafter, because they could see what was obvious to anyone with half a brain - Thomson was guilty! Now, ask yourself this - why did Gillard (eventually) remove him before he was found to be guilty by the courts? As an English major matty, you should know that it's quiet, and not quite. ;) Abbott did nothing but try to prosecute Thomson. He thought he could be judge and juror, instead of letting the NORMAL process go its course. I'm glad you agree with me on that point, it's a shame that you support it however. Unfortunately auto correct doesn't account for typos when the typos are real words. I disagree with you about abbott. Why hasn't you answered my question/s yet? I answered your's. Your's is also incorrect. Come on Matty! I didn't see it that way, I only saw that you agreed with me on Tony and his complete disregard for the judicial process.

I know, yours already indicates possession, so doesn't require an apostrophe. I just can't seem to not make errors/typos when on my iPhone.

No, I made a clear point about many lefties on here alleging that the likes of Abbott and Jackson were complicity in this casem, when it turns out that they were not. You haven't addressed that question at all, nor have you answered my question about Gillard kicking him out before the matter had been solved in court.

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:30pm:

Well, that is the legal system for you. I hope a real exploiter of HSU union members, Kathy Jackson, is also found guilty. Couldn’t believe the ABC STILL describing her as a “whistleblower!” No doubt there will be an appeal.

What did she do?

salad in wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

It's interesting to reflect on Thomson's booster, our very own Wild One and the tosh he used to drag in here from Independent Australia. I can imagine that Wild One is out there trying to convince anyone prepared to listen that Melbourne magistrate  Charlie Rozencwajg delivered his findings without the benefit of reading Independent Australia first. What a silly magistrate. For the record: Quote: Jacksonville 63: the "doomed" prosecution case against Craig Thomson. In a Melbourne court yesterday, the shambolic prosecution case against Craig Thomson toppled and teetered even closer to total collapse. Peter Wicks reports. YESTERDAY, in the Melbourne Magistrates Court, Craig Thomson was left scratching his head. In what has been the latest bizarre event in the whole saga surrounding the former MP, the prosecution in the criminal case have gone all schizophrenic on us, offering one thing and doing another. Sources close to the case have told IA of the prosecution approaching Thomson with an offer they likely hoped would be too good ‒ or Thomson too broke ‒ to refuse. [...] 6 December 2013 | Jacksonville 66: Thomson in Court — Days 3 and 4 4 December 2013 | Jacksonville 65: Craig Thomson Trial Day Two — Hogwashgate 2 December 2013 | Jacksonville 64: Craig Thomson's trial by media 27 November 2013 | Jacksonville 63: The "doomed" prosecution case against Craig Thomson 21 November 2013 | Tony Abbott's torturous patrol boat diplomacy 17 October 2013 | Jacksonville 61: A licence to print money 16 October 2013 | The choice of rank and file: To reform Labor or toe the line 14 October 2013 | Unrepresentative ALP caucus snubs its membership again 11 October 2013 | Jacksonville 60: Fair Work Commission case against Thomson collapses 10 October 2013 | Jacksonville 59: Absent without leave 27 September 2013 | Shorten admirable but Albo FTW 26 September 2013 | Coalition refugee policy and our Global Backyard 13 September 2013 | Jacksonville 58: The Australian vs Craig Thomson Et phuking c. http://www.independentaustralia.net/profile-on/peter-wicks,73 Anyone in need of sh!t paper should contact IA. It has an endless supply.

HILARIOUS..

I didnt see this comment salad... I was just thinking poor wiseone is right now down at the Indepen dent..writing his swan song...

I so remember them claiming even the judge was  in favour of THOMO...even the overheard comments were scathing of the prosecution . ::) ::) ::) ::)

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:32pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:30pm: Well, that is the legal system for you. I hope a real exploiter of HSU union members, Kathy Jackson, is also found guilty. Couldn’t believe the ABC STILL describing her as a “whistleblower!” No doubt there will be an appeal. What did she do?

she did everything abbott didnt do matt...gotta blame someone....has any lefty said.. GREAT JUST WHAT HE DESERVED??>.not a hope.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

This couldn't have all gone onto the other topic  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] about the same thing ????

now now... ITS HEADLINES dontcha NO.

never mind dna you will be right one day. ::) ::) ::)

just say willy cant last at this rate,... and you are home and hosed.

When's the hangin?

I don't want to miss it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc

Now he is found Guilty will the federal police charge him with misleading parliament?

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

When's the hangin? I don't want to miss it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc

got your knitting bobby???...lol you do luv hangins boy..

I wonder if his misses is tying the noose.. ;) ;)

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 5:38pm:

Now he is found Guilty will the federal police charge him with misleading parliament?

nup it all under privilege..he wouldnt have said anything if it was outside..

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 5:38pm:

Now he is found Guilty will the federal police charge him with misleading parliament?

I hope so but I wanted a good old fashioned hanging.

hallelujah.

BlOoDy RiPpEr wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 5:38pm:

Now he is found Guilty will the federal police charge him with misleading parliament?

If they charged thommo they'd have to charge Abbott too .....  :D :D :D :D

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:30pm:

Well, that is the legal system for you. I hope a real exploiter of HSU union members, Kathy Jackson, is also found guilty. Couldn’t believe the ABC STILL describing her as a “whistleblower!” No doubt there will be an appeal.

Now you are showing what a real fool you are Monkey Boy... Jackson was only 1 of a group that blew the whistle on Thomson...  who in case you missed it was found GUILTY...  or did you actually believe his insane story...  which reminds me did he not mislead parliament was he not backed unconditionally by Shorten and Gillard?

Bring on the RC into Unions. 8-)

Where's Aussie on all this, wasn't he supporting Thommo too?  I'm sure he was on PA.
Come on Aussie...  fess up.

maybe he choked on all that humble pie he has to eat  ;D

Grendel wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:32pm:

Where's Aussie on all this, wasn't he supporting Thommo too?  I'm sure he was on PA. Come on Aussie...  fess up.

If you read all the multiple Threads on this matter, you will see that your question....which of course implies duplicity on my part...demands the answer......No.

I have stayed out of deciding the issue.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

When's the hangin? I don't want to miss it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc

This here’s a white boy. Quit your bleatin and hollerin.

Only ones gonna dance on a rope’s them niggras.

Thommo is up for an Academy Award for his teary speech in parliament.

;D ;D ;D ;D

Karnal wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 4:22pm: When's the hangin? I don't want to miss it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc This here’s a white boy. Quit your bleatin and hollerin. Only ones gonna dance on a rope’s them niggras.

Don't be racist Karnal -
we hang all wrong doers.

hallelujah

Grendel wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:31pm:

Jackson was only 1 of a group that blew the whistle on Thomson

yeah she's totally innocent  ;D ;D ;D

I dunno how realistic an appeal is (money wise ~  Thomson) but I'd keep me powder dry until the period to lodge an appeal has elapsed.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:40pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 4:22pm: When's the hangin? I don't want to miss it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc This here’s a white boy. Quit your bleatin and hollerin. Only ones gonna dance on a rope’s them niggras. Don't be racist Karnal - we hang all wrong doers. hallelujah

Who you kiddin, Bobbie?

You aint foolin me with that righteous talkin. You aint no preacher.

Karnal wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:40pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 4:22pm: When's the hangin? I don't want to miss it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc This here’s a white boy. Quit your bleatin and hollerin. Only ones gonna dance on a rope’s them niggras. Don't be racist Karnal - we hang all wrong doers. hallelujah Who you kiddin, Bobbie? You aint foolin me with that righteous talkin. You aint no preacher.

you sure about that?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mFigtFczaEc/UfuJJIEC6YI/AAAAAAAAAy8/VxSwk6nYvlA/s1600/GAY%2BPRIEST.jpg

Grendel wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:31pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 3:30pm: Well, that is the legal system for you. I hope a real exploiter of HSU union members, Kathy Jackson, is also found guilty. Couldn’t believe the ABC STILL describing her as a “whistleblower!” No doubt there will be an appeal. Now you are showing what a real fool you are Monkey Boy... Jackson was only 1 of a group that blew the whistle on Thomson...  who in case you missed it was found GUILTY...  or did you actually believe his insane story...  which reminds me did he not mislead parliament was he not backed unconditionally bt Shorten and Gillard? Bring on the RC into Unions. 8-)

was he not backed unconditionally bt Shorten and Gillard?

Of course all the people they are supporting they throw out of the Labor party and they leave them to end the term on the cross benches sitting as an independant.

Karnal wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:40pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 4:22pm: When's the hangin? I don't want to miss it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc This here’s a white boy. Quit your bleatin and hollerin. Only ones gonna dance on a rope’s them niggras. Don't be racist Karnal - we hang all wrong doers. hallelujah Who you kiddin, Bobbie? You aint foolin me with that righteous talkin. You aint no preacher.

I is the preacher of the town.

Psalm 1

King James Version (KJV)


Quote:

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:53pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:40pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:39pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 4:22pm: When's the hangin? I don't want to miss it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc This here’s a white boy. Quit your bleatin and hollerin. Only ones gonna dance on a rope’s them niggras. Don't be racist Karnal - we hang all wrong doers. hallelujah Who you kiddin, Bobbie? You aint foolin me with that righteous talkin. You aint no preacher. you sure about that? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mFigtFczaEc/UfuJJIEC6YI/AAAAAAAAAy8/VxSwk6nYvlA/s1600/GAY%2BPRIEST.jpg

I never said Bobbie don’t truck with no preacher. No, sir.

Bobbie aint no preacher man. Don’t mean he don’t squeal like a preacher in the pulpit when he’s got one ready to go.

Yessir. Not that there’s anythin wrong with it.

Karnal - read your Bible:



Quote:

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

Aussie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:37pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:32pm: Where's Aussie on all this, wasn't he supporting Thommo too?  I'm sure he was on PA. Come on Aussie...  fess up. If you read all the multiple Threads on this matter, you will see that your question....which of course implies duplicity on my part...demands the answer......No. I have stayed out of deciding the issue.

Weren't you the one who just denied the facts and weren't you the one always defending him and his story and weren't you the one saying it would never get to court?


Quote:

A very clear indication that Police are not interested in charging him with any criminal offence. I'd say this vindicates Thomson, and makes FWA appear vindictive. Ho hum...........

So much for your opinion oh Cabbie/Lawyer...

http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10697&p=106974&view=show#p106974

Grendel wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:37pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:32pm: Where's Aussie on all this, wasn't he supporting Thommo too?  I'm sure he was on PA. Come on Aussie...  fess up. If you read all the multiple Threads on this matter, you will see that your question....which of course implies duplicity on my part...demands the answer......No. I have stayed out of deciding the issue. Weren't you the one who just denied the facts and weren't you the one always defending him and his story and weren't you the one saying it would never get to court? Quote: A very clear indication that Police are not interested in charging him with any criminal offence. I'd say this vindicates Thomson, and makes FWA appear vindictive. Ho hum........... So much for your opinion oh Cabbie/Lawyer... http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10697&p=106974&view=show#p106974

You are quite a dishonest broker, aren't you.  Yes, I posted that in 2012, in an entirely different context, a different debate and at another Forum............and before all the facts were public. He had not even been charged by Cops then and there was civil action afoot.

Stalker much, Grendel.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:12pm:

I'm awaiting me a hanging. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc

there will be more than one hanging after the Royal inquest into corruption with the Unions and the filthy scum in the Labor ranks...

Just read your views posted up there on that link Aussie.

Oh dear.....

Hindsight is a beautiful thing eh?
Talk about sunk by your own missile.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 8:51pm:

Just read your views posted up there on that link Aussie. Oh dear..... Hindsight is a beautiful thing eh? Talk about sunk by your own missile.

Not at all.  At that time, there was civil action afoot....and it  still is.  My point was that it is most unusual in those circumstances for criminal charges to over wrap.

This carpetbagger talks about sinkin missiles, Bobbie.

Dang, him and the preacher be workin together on this one, I fathom.

Not that there’s anythin wrong with that, no sir.

Grendel wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 8:33pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:37pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:32pm: Where's Aussie on all this, wasn't he supporting Thommo too?  I'm sure he was on PA. Come on Aussie...  fess up. If you read all the multiple Threads on this matter, you will see that your question....which of course implies duplicity on my part...demands the answer......No. I have stayed out of deciding the issue. Weren't you the one who just denied the facts and weren't you the one always defending him and his story and weren't you the one saying it would never get to court? Quote: A very clear indication that Police are not interested in charging him with any criminal offence. I'd say this vindicates Thomson, and makes FWA appear vindictive. Ho hum........... So much for your opinion oh Cabbie/Lawyer... http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10697&p=106974&view=show#p106974

naughty boy grendel..how dare you bring up aussies past..


.
Aussie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 8:40pm:

You are quite a dishonest broker, aren't you.  Yes, I posted that in 2012, in an entirely different context, a different debate and at another Forum............and before all the facts were public. He had not even been charged by Cops then and there was civil action afoot. Stalker much, Grendel.

talking of stalking.. he went through all my posts on THOMO convinced I had broken HIS law by not using the word ALLEGED..every time... he went berserk...

but of course that wasnt dredging up the past by any means was it..LOLOLOL

aussie doesnt make mistake...huhum... at least he doesnt like being reminded..so beware... ;D ;D ;D

Charges against the 49-year-old for using the cards to pay for pornographic films were dismissed.
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Employment Minister Eric Abetz said Thomson misled Parliament over the allegations and now had a lot of explaining to do.
"Mr Thomson owes an apology to the thousands of honest union members he defrauded, in addition to the parliament and public, whom he also misled," Senator Abetz said in a statement.
Thomson repeatedly proclaimed his innocence in Parliament, insisting he had done nothing wrong.
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OOPS ;D ;D ;D
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/craig-thomson-should-apologise-for-misleading-parliament-eric-abetz-20140218-32y43.html#ixzz2tfgVLUKn

Aussie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 8:56pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:51pm: Just read your views posted up there on that link Aussie. Oh dear..... Hindsight is a beautiful thing eh? Talk about sunk by your own missile. Not at all.  At that time, there was civil action afoot....and it  still is.  My point was that it is most unusual in those circumstances for criminal charges to over wrap.

AUSSIE...  sinking into a cesspit of his own denial!!!  ::) ::) ::)

Well it looks as though the lefties are not going to apologise. Indeed, it doesn't even look as though they are going to acknowledge it. And why, because you're gutless, all of you gutless!

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 9:18pm:

Senator Abetz also wants Opposition Leader Bill Shorten to apologise on behalf of Labor for "promoting and protecting" Thomson over the years. [/highlight] Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/craig-thomson-should-apologise-for-misleading-parliament-eric-abetz-20140218-32y43.html#ixzz2tfgVLUKn

Wonder if Abotz and Abbott will apologise for covering up for slipper for over a decade if he is found to be guilty, but that would be different ???

matty wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 12:58am:

Well it looks as though the lefties are not going to apologise. Indeed, it doesn't even look as though they are going to acknowledge it. And why, because you're gutless, all of you gutless!

Apologise for or admit what ????

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:30am:

cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:18pm: Senator Abetz also wants Opposition Leader Bill Shorten to apologise on behalf of Labor for "promoting and protecting" Thomson over the years. [/highlight] Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/craig-thomson-should-apologise-for-misleading-parliament-eric-abetz-20140218-32y43.html#ixzz2tfgVLUKn Wonder if Abotz and Abbott will apologise for covering up for slipper for over a decade if he is found to be guilty, but that would be different ???

YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE WHERE THEY DID THAT HAVENT YOU????

btw did you know krudd went to slippers wedding as well.


as for comparing what slipper did with that creep THOMO.. shows how desperate you are.


even the judge was less than impressed anyone and I mean anyone would think it was ok to use a work credit card to visit brothels..........what kind a asshole does that... no not even slipper did that.

matty wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 12:58am:

Well it looks as though the lefties are not going to apologise. Indeed, it doesn't even look as though they are going to acknowledge it. And why, because you're gutless, all of you gutless!

time to grow up matty.. look at aussie and the lengths he went too to wriggle off the hook....it was another time and place...LOLOLOLOLOLL.. anything but admit to being a fool

Just another elite who pood on the people he was supposed to be helping.
Further evidence that labor should disendorse the unions asap or become another 8% party like the greens.
This will require great courage and honesty from the faceless men, and if they are like Thommo (well they are, they too are self interested union heavyweights) then they will be unlikely to act.
Labor would appear finished and the incompetant greens have wedged them perfectly.
Its just the ongoing pantomime.
People may not like abbott (well they dont, he is as charismatic as a parking meter) but the left side have showed such gross incompetance , there appears no way back.
A total demolition job and a rebuilding from the base.
A new "entrepreneurial, small business, community based party " is what we need.
I agree, someone like lindsay tanner , given dictatorial powers , might help.

cods wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:34am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:30am: cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:18pm: Senator Abetz also wants Opposition Leader Bill Shorten to apologise on behalf of Labor for "promoting and protecting" Thomson over the years. [/highlight] Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/craig-thomson-should-apologise-for-misleading-parliament-eric-abetz-20140218-32y43.html#ixzz2tfgVLUKn Wonder if Abotz and Abbott will apologise for covering up for slipper for over a decade if he is found to be guilty, but that would be different ??? YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE WHERE THEY DID THAT HAVENT YOU???? btw did you know krudd went to slippers wedding as well. as for comparing what slipper did with that creep THOMO.. shows how desperate you are. even the judge was less than impressed anyone and I mean anyone would think it was ok to use a work credit card to visit brothels..........what kind a asshole does that... no not even slipper did that.

I commented on the article you posted ????

btw did you know krudd went to slippers wedding as well.

I didn't but I expect that a lot of nice people went. His good mate TAbbott also went and followed up by stabbing him in the back.

YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE WHERE THEY DID THAT HAVENT YOU????

It was common knowledge that Slipper had to pay back money several times and that the Libs had him on film with a young male staffer from around 2000.

True Blue... wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 8:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:12pm: I'm awaiting me a hanging. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc there will be more than one hanging after the Royal inquest into corruption with the Unions and the filthy scum in the Labor ranks...

Sure - we is gunna have us a fine lynchin.



Quote:

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:47am:

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:34am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:30am: cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 9:18pm: Senator Abetz also wants Opposition Leader Bill Shorten to apologise on behalf of Labor for "promoting and protecting" Thomson over the years. [/highlight] Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/craig-thomson-should-apologise-for-misleading-parliament-eric-abetz-20140218-32y43.html#ixzz2tfgVLUKn Wonder if Abotz and Abbott will apologise for covering up for slipper for over a decade if he is found to be guilty, but that would be different ??? YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE WHERE THEY DID THAT HAVENT YOU???? btw did you know krudd went to slippers wedding as well. as for comparing what slipper did with that creep THOMO.. shows how desperate you are. even the judge was less than impressed anyone and I mean anyone would think it was ok to use a work credit card to visit brothels..........what kind a asshole does that... no not even slipper did that. I commented on the article you posted ???? you brought in abbott and abetz saying they COVERED UP FOR SLIPPER btw did you know krudd went to slippers wedding as well. I didn't but I expect that a lot of nice people went. His good mate TAbbott also went and followed up by stabbing him in the back. how did ABBOTT stab him in the back??? you sure you aint mixed up with gillard and krudd and krudd and gillard. YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE WHERE THEY DID THAT HAVENT YOU???? It was common knowledge that Slipper had to pay back money several times and that the Libs had him on film with a young male staffer from around 2000.

common knowledge...

is not AB BOTT AND ABETZ......as YOU CLAIMED....

you will find that would be the finance dept....and I do not think either of those worked in the finance dept..


prove me wrong.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:49am:

True Blue... wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:12pm: I'm awaiting me a hanging. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc there will be more than one hanging after the Royal inquest into corruption with the Unions and the filthy scum in the Labor ranks... Sure - we is gunna have us a fine lynchin. Quote: 1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

bobby your blood lust is only surpassed by your twisted take on the bible and its meanings...lol..

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/hsu-wants-400000-more-from-disgraced-former-mp-and-fraudster-craig-thomson/story-fni0cx12-1226831030367


THE battles are not over for disgraced former MP Craig Thomson with officials from the union he defrauded vowing to try and recover almost $400,000 from him through the courts.

Thomson was found guilty in the Melbourne Magistrates Court yesterday of a string of fraud charges including using his Health Services Union (HSU) credit card to pay for prostitutes while he was national secretary.

Magistrate Charlie Rozencwajg said it was an “affront to common sense” that payments to escorts could ever be considered a legitimate expense. ::) ::)

Isn't two or three Thomson threads enough ????

At least maybe now his wife can have a shower without entertaining a channel 7 camera crew.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:15am:

Isn't two or three Thomson threads enough ???? At least maybe now his wife can have a shower without entertaining a channel 7 camera crew.

NUP.... its like Downton Abbey a serial...every day is a new day...and this time its the UNION.. and not NEWSLTD thats having a go...

what up doc... cant you take it???

$400.000 I thought you would be in for sending him a donation...he isnt too shy to ask for those is he?

cods wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:15am: Isn't two or three Thomson threads enough ???? At least maybe now his wife can have a shower without entertaining a channel 7 camera crew. NUP.... its like Downton Abbey a serial...every day is a new day...and this time its the UNION.. and not NEWSLTD thats having a go... what up doc... cant you take it??? $400.000 I thought you would be in for sending him a donation...he isnt too shy to ask for those is he?

If you and Macca were not conservatives Andrei would have rolled all three topics into one.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:33am:

cods wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:30am: Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:15am: Isn't two or three Thomson threads enough ???? At least maybe now his wife can have a shower without entertaining a channel 7 camera crew. NUP.... its like Downton Abbey a serial...every day is a new day...and this time its the UNION.. and not NEWSLTD thats having a go... what up doc... cant you take it??? $400.000 I thought you would be in for sending him a donation...he isnt too shy to ask for those is he? If you and Macca were not conservatives Andrei would have rolled all three topics into one.

my goodness you are not saying he is biased are you?>... ;D ;D ;D ;D

what about all those Abbott thread one after the other all rubbish...how about one long abbott thread.. if FD wasnt a lefty he would have done that for sure... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


at least the THOMO threads are all about a different thing...and they are all TRUE>

The last 5 Posts were moved here from Politicians Suck by perceptions_now.

cods wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:56am:

common knowledge... is not AB BOTT AND ABETZ......as YOU CLAIMED.... you will find that would be the finance dept....and I do not think either of those worked in the finance dept.. prove me wrong.

They were both part of the team which knew what had been going on and supported it.

how did ABBOTT stab him in the back???

you sure you aint mixed up with gillard and krudd and krudd and gillard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4hNuyq0Mq0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtS4o_9sG-Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJPfBQ3sYDk

cods wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 8:00am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:49am: True Blue... wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:46pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:12pm: I'm awaiting me a hanging. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsMQABEiRMc there will be more than one hanging after the Royal inquest into corruption with the Unions and the filthy scum in the Labor ranks... Sure - we is gunna have us a fine lynchin. Quote: 1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. 4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. 5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. 6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish. bobby your blood lust is only surpassed by your twisted take on the bible and its meanings...lol..

If you would have watched the video you'd hear that
the Bible psalm was read out by the preacher on the gallows -
it wasn't my idea.

It's the law of the Lord.

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 12:46pm:

I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocent man.

NO ONE said Craig Thomson was an "innocent man"

But rather INNOCENT until proven GUILTY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence#The_presumption_of_innocence_in_modern_practice


Myself, included

I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt. Craig Thomson has declared his innocence all through this. After the political witch hunt and trial by media he was put through, he could never get a fair trial in this country.

Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 5:49pm:

nup it all under privilege..he wouldnt have said anything if it was outside..

Let's hope Gillard's quockerwodger gets to taste prison food.


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Thomson has committed high contempt against the House of Representatives and should be sanctioned by the House. The House has powers to imprison or fine persons that it has inherited from the House of Commons and which are now enshrined in the  Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987. The House of Commons Practice (May) states     The Commons may treat the making of a deliberately misleading statement as a contempt. In 1963 the House resolved that in making a personal statement which contained words which he later admitted not to be true, a former Member had been guilty of a grave contempt. As noted in House of Representatives Practice     By section 49 of the Constitution the House of Representatives acquired the powers, privileges and immunities of the House of Commons as at 1 January 1901, until the Parliament otherwise declared. In the absence of such a declaration of those powers, privileges and immunities until 1987 with the enactment of the Parliamentary Privileges Act, they remained those of the House of Commons as at 1 January 1901. The House may sentence a person to up to six months imprisonment     Section 7 of the Parliamentary Privileges Act provides that the House may impose a penalty of imprisonment for a period not exceeding six months for an offence against it. Such a penalty is not affected by prorogation or dissolution. Before the enactment of this provision, the House, under section 49 of the Constitution, possessed the same power in this area as the House of Commons in 1901; the Commons was considered to be without the power to imprison for a period beyond the session, although apart from this constraint there were no other limits in terms of the length of committal.171     On the only occasion when the House of Representatives has exercised its power of commitment (see p. 731), Messrs Browne and Fitzpatrick, in 1955, were committed for three months. No prorogation or dissolution of the Parliament intervened during the period of their imprisonment and they served the full period of their commitment. http://catallaxyfiles.com/

Hat tip to Catallaxy.

Gillard - union hack
Shorten - union hack

Both supported Thommo to avoid investigations during the last 6 years

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 9:40am:

I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt. Craig Thomson has declared his innocence all through this. After the political witch hunt and trial by media he was put through, he could never get a fair trial in this country. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

How many of the 179 charges has he been found guilty of?

MOST OF THEM!!!

I heard it was more like 145 charges and that it was 55 he was found guilty of because the police incorrectly charged him for defrauding a bank in many cases instead of the Union.

Maqqa wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 9:54am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:40am: I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt. Craig Thomson has declared his innocence all through this. After the political witch hunt and trial by media he was put through, he could never get a fair trial in this country. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic. How many of the 179 charges has he been found guilty of? MOST OF THEM!!!

Just another trumped up conviction by the leftards, Maqqa.

Crag Thomson has consistently declared his innocence.

SHAME LABOR SHAME.

Can we now have him punished for misleading parliament

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Can we now have him punished for misleading parliament

He will be brought before the bar and punished.

He will do bird.

I hope so. Put him in solitary on bread and water.

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progressiveslol wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Can we now have him punished for misleading parliament

Absolute nonsense. It would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he knowingly mislead parliament.

If Mr Thomson believes he is innocent, no charges can be laid. This is all just trumped-up leftard rubbish.

We need to leave this man be and let him get on with his life.

Should the bird of paradox be charged with concealing a serious crime? Here's the type of thing that the legal boffins talk about when it comes to concealment.


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CRIMES ACT 1900 - SECT 316 Concealing serious indictable offence 316 Concealing serious indictable offence     (1) If a person has committed a serious indictable offence and another person who knows or believes that the offence has been committed and that he or she has information which might be of material assistance in securing the apprehension of the offender or the prosecution or conviction of the offender for it fails without reasonable excuse to bring that information to the attention of a member of the Police Force or other appropriate authority, that other person is liable to imprisonment for 2 years http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s316.html

Sometimes, Commonwealth law links into state law and I'm sure the Commonwealth has the same serious view of concealing a crime.

Also, a priest was charged with concealing a crime so hiding behind a nice smile is no defence.


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Priest charged with hiding sex crimes HE was the ''right-hand man'' of a bishop, and a one-time acting bishop himself, but priest Tom Brennan has become the first Australian Catholic priest charged with concealing the alleged child sex crimes of another. Father Brennan, 74, was arrested and charged yesterday with two counts of misprision of a felony - failing to disclose a serious crime - relating to alleged child sex offences by defrocked priest John Denham against two boys in the late 1970s. [...] http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/priest-charged-with-hiding-sex-crimes-20120830-253bn.html

The Commonwealth is keen to flush out sex crimes in the clergy so let's see if it is keen to flush out crimes in political parties.

salad in wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 3:23pm:

Should the bird of paradox be charged with concealing a serious crime? Here's the type of thing that the legal boffins talk about when it comes to concealment. Quote: CRIMES ACT 1900 - SECT 316 Concealing serious indictable offence 316 Concealing serious indictable offence     (1) If a person has committed a serious indictable offence and another person who knows or believes that the offence has been committed and that he or she has information which might be of material assistance in securing the apprehension of the offender or the prosecution or conviction of the offender for it fails without reasonable excuse to bring that information to the attention of a member of the Police Force or other appropriate authority, that other person is liable to imprisonment for 2 years http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s316.html Sometimes, Commonwealth law links into state law and I'm sure the Commonwealth has the same serious view of concealing a crime. Also, a priest was charged with concealing a crime so hiding behind a nice smile is no defence. [quote] Priest charged with hiding sex crimes HE was the ''right-hand man'' of a bishop, and a one-time acting bishop himself, but priest Tom Brennan has become the first Australian Catholic priest charged with concealing the alleged child sex crimes of another. Father Brennan, 74, was arrested and charged yesterday with two counts of misprision of a felony - failing to disclose a serious crime - relating to alleged child sex offences by defrocked priest John Denham against two boys in the late 1970s. [...] http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/priest-charged-with-hiding-sex-crimes-20120830-253bn.html

The Commonwealth is keen to flush out sex crimes in the clergy so let's see if it is keen to flush out crimes in political parties.[/quote]

What a load of legal mumbo-jumbo. The man in the street knows what's going on. He knows a Stalinist show-trial when he sees it.

Craig Thomson will clear his name of these appalling allegations. Time will tell.

The truth will out in the end, leftards.

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 9:16pm:

Grendel wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:33pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:37pm: Grendel wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 6:32pm: Where's Aussie on all this, wasn't he supporting Thommo too?  I'm sure he was on PA. Come on Aussie...  fess up. If you read all the multiple Threads on this matter, you will see that your question....which of course implies duplicity on my part...demands the answer......No. I have stayed out of deciding the issue. Weren't you the one who just denied the facts and weren't you the one always defending him and his story and weren't you the one saying it would never get to court? Quote: A very clear indication that Police are not interested in charging him with any criminal offence. I'd say this vindicates Thomson, and makes FWA appear vindictive. Ho hum........... So much for your opinion oh Cabbie/Lawyer... http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10697&p=106974&view=show#p106974 naughty boy grendel..how dare you bring up aussies past.. . Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 8:40pm: You are quite a dishonest broker, aren't you.  Yes, I posted that in 2012, in an entirely different context, a different debate and at another Forum............and before all the facts were public. He had not even been charged by Cops then and there was civil action afoot. Stalker much, Grendel. talking of stalking.. he went through all my posts on THOMO convinced I had broken HIS law by not using the word ALLEGED..every time... he went berserk... but of course that wasnt dredging up the past by any means was it..LOLOLOL aussie doesnt make mistake...huhum... at least he doesnt like being reminded..so beware... ;D ;D ;D

Please note that Grendel's link involved something I posted over at PA and Aussie commented about.  ::)

Still reckon Thomson  won't be charged, Aussie? ;D  He will be sentenced on 18 March and could get up to 5 years. The Union is also (apparently) wanting their money back for the legal fees, some $400,000 odd. ;D

Next on the List .... Gillard!

Bring It On!

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

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Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

What a load of legal mumbo-jumbo. The man in the street knows what's going on. He knows a Stalinist show-trial when he sees it. Craig Thomson will clear his name of these appalling allegations. Time will tell. The truth will out in the end, leftards.

Karnal, I don't know about you but I'm prepared to push this all the way to the Court of Criminal Justice if I have to. Gillard should be incarcerated at Guantanamo until her trial is listed for hearing. Failing that I think A Jones should be prevailed upon to prosecute the case against the bird of paradox. If that fails she can be judged by the astute viewers of 60 Minutes. She must not be allowed to get away with protecting a criminal.

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I'm prepared to push this all the way to the Court of Criminal Justice if I have to.

The what....?????...and when you have answered that one....exactly how will you push "this" there,(wherever that 'there' is?)

Aussie wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 6:53pm:

Quote: I'm prepared to push this all the way to the Court of Criminal Justice if I have to. The what....?????...and when you have answered that one....exactly how will you push "this" there,(wherever that 'there' is?)

PLEASE don't spoil my "kick the sh!t out of the ALP" moment. Do you remember humour...no you probably don't.

matty wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 12:46pm:

I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large.

I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over...

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:46pm:

matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:46pm: I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large. I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over...

Exactly. The leftards crucified this man. They hung him out to dry.

Craig Thomson devoted his whole life to helping those worse than himself, and where did it get him?

On trumped up charges, that’s where.

I say we spare a thought for this poor man and his family. After all he’s done for the leftards, you’d think they’d show some gratitude, but no.

Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:46pm:

matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:46pm: I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large. I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over...

Exactly. The leftards crucified this man. They hung him out to dry.

Craig Thomson devoted his whole life to helping those worse than himself, and where did it get him?

On trumped up charges, that’s where.

I say we spare a thought for this poor man and his family. After all he’s done for the leftards, you’d think they’d show some gratitude, but no.

Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 8:04pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:46pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:46pm: I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large. I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over... Exactly. The leftards crucified this man. They hung him out to dry. Craig Thomson devoted his whole life to helping those worse than himself, and where did it get him? On trumped up charges, that’s where. I say we spare a thought for this poor man and his family. After all he’s done for the leftards, you’d think they’d show some gratitude, but no. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic.

I bet you also believe that Elvis lives, the CIA killed Kennedy, the US faked the moon landing and the Pope ain't Catholic!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 8:32pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:04pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:46pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:46pm: I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large. I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over... Exactly. The leftards crucified this man. They hung him out to dry. Craig Thomson devoted his whole life to helping those worse than himself, and where did it get him? On trumped up charges, that’s where. I say we spare a thought for this poor man and his family. After all he’s done for the leftards, you’d think they’d show some gratitude, but no. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic. I bet you also believe that Elvis lives, the CIA killed Kennedy, the US faked the moon landing and the Pope ain't Catholic!

Absolutely not, but I’ve always been a firm believer in innocent until proven guilty.

salad in wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 7:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 6:53pm: Quote: I'm prepared to push this all the way to the Court of Criminal Justice if I have to. The what....?????...and when you have answered that one....exactly how will you push "this" there,(wherever that 'there' is?) PLEASE don't spoil my "kick the sh!t out of the ALP" moment. Do you remember humour...no you probably don't.

Yeas, it may have been my lack of a sense of humour.  Could also have been completely humourless writing.

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2014 at 9:56pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:32pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:04pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:46pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:46pm: I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large. I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over... Exactly. The leftards crucified this man. They hung him out to dry. Craig Thomson devoted his whole life to helping those worse than himself, and where did it get him? On trumped up charges, that’s where. I say we spare a thought for this poor man and his family. After all he’s done for the leftards, you’d think they’d show some gratitude, but no. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic. I bet you also believe that Elvis lives, the CIA killed Kennedy, the US faked the moon landing and the Pope ain't Catholic! Absolutely not, but I’ve always been a firm believer in innocent until proven guilty.

Oh, come on! Even the most uneducated among us could tell Thomson's defence arguments were farcical and completely unbelievable. He's lucky he defamed those people under parliamentary privilege (like the coward that he is), or else he'd be facing defamation proceedings.

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LOL.. he also believed in GILLARD....UNTIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 6:24am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:32pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:04pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:46pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:46pm: I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large. I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over... Exactly. The leftards crucified this man. They hung him out to dry. Craig Thomson devoted his whole life to helping those worse than himself, and where did it get him? On trumped up charges, that’s where. I say we spare a thought for this poor man and his family. After all he’s done for the leftards, you’d think they’d show some gratitude, but no. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic. I bet you also believe that Elvis lives, the CIA killed Kennedy, the US faked the moon landing and the Pope ain't Catholic! Absolutely not, but I’ve always been a firm believer in innocent until proven guilty. Oh, come on! Even the most uneducated among us could tell Thomson's defence arguments were farcical and completely unbelievable.

Nonsense. He mentioned another credit card user, who obviously the leftards are trying to hide. He looked just like mr Thomson, but that's just a coincidence.

Who is this man, leftards?

Mr Thomson is innocent until proven guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt.

;D
Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 8:36am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 6:24am: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:32pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:04pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:46pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:46pm: I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large. I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over... Exactly. The leftards crucified this man. They hung him out to dry. Craig Thomson devoted his whole life to helping those worse than himself, and where did it get him? On trumped up charges, that’s where. I say we spare a thought for this poor man and his family. After all he’s done for the leftards, you’d think they’d show some gratitude, but no. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic. I bet you also believe that Elvis lives, the CIA killed Kennedy, the US faked the moon landing and the Pope ain't Catholic! Absolutely not, but I’ve always been a firm believer in innocent until proven guilty. Oh, come on! Even the most uneducated among us could tell Thomson's defence arguments were farcical and completely unbelievable. Nonsense. He mentioned another credit card user, who obviously the leftards are trying to hide. He looked just like mr Thomson, but that's just a coincidence. Who is this man, leftards? Mr Thomson is innocent until proven guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt.

;D

woody2014 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

;D Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:36am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 6:24am: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:32pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:04pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:46pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:46pm: I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large. I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over... Exactly. The leftards crucified this man. They hung him out to dry. Craig Thomson devoted his whole life to helping those worse than himself, and where did it get him? On trumped up charges, that’s where. I say we spare a thought for this poor man and his family. After all he’s done for the leftards, you’d think they’d show some gratitude, but no. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic. I bet you also believe that Elvis lives, the CIA killed Kennedy, the US faked the moon landing and the Pope ain't Catholic! Absolutely not, but I’ve always been a firm believer in innocent until proven guilty. Oh, come on! Even the most uneducated among us could tell Thomson's defence arguments were farcical and completely unbelievable. Nonsense. He mentioned another credit card user, who obviously the leftards are trying to hide. He looked just like mr Thomson, but that's just a coincidence. Who is this man, leftards? Mr Thomson is innocent until proven guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt. ;D

You people make me sick. There is an appeal process in this country, which Mr Thomson has every right to access under the law of the land. We have every reason to believe Craig Thomson will clear his name in the higher courts. Until then, he is innocent.

Moderators, change this thread title, please. It's a lie.

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 9:52am:

woody2014 wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:49am: ;D Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:36am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 6:24am: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:32pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:04pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:46pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:46pm: I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large. I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over... Exactly. The leftards crucified this man. They hung him out to dry. Craig Thomson devoted his whole life to helping those worse than himself, and where did it get him? On trumped up charges, that’s where. I say we spare a thought for this poor man and his family. After all he’s done for the leftards, you’d think they’d show some gratitude, but no. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic. I bet you also believe that Elvis lives, the CIA killed Kennedy, the US faked the moon landing and the Pope ain't Catholic! Absolutely not, but I’ve always been a firm believer in innocent until proven guilty. Oh, come on! Even the most uneducated among us could tell Thomson's defence arguments were farcical and completely unbelievable. Nonsense. He mentioned another credit card user, who obviously the leftards are trying to hide. He looked just like mr Thomson, but that's just a coincidence. Who is this man, leftards? Mr Thomson is innocent until proven guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt. ;D You people make me sick. There is an appeal process in this country, which Mr Thomson has every right to access under the law of the land. We have every reason to believe Craig Thomson will clear his name in the higher courts. Until then, he is innocent. Moderators, change this thread title, please. It's a lie.

The magistrate found him guilty,  FFSFFSFFSFFS   >:( >:(

GUILTY

The High Court in both Britain and Australia are notoriously mischievous for reversing decisions that upset their Social-Marxist sensitivities.

Time and again we witness these ideologically-driven, be-wigged buffoons sending cases back to the lower courts for a more 'politically correct' outcome.



 

woody2014 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2014 at 10:04am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 9:52am: woody2014 wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:49am: ;D Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 8:36am: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2014 at 6:24am: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 9:56pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:32pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 8:04pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 19th, 2014 at 7:46pm: matty wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:46pm: I await the apologies of all the lefties on here who said that he was an innocenr man, and set up by Kathy Jackson, Tony Abbott and the Liberal party at large. I suspect you will be waiting until hell freezes over... Exactly. The leftards crucified this man. They hung him out to dry. Craig Thomson devoted his whole life to helping those worse than himself, and where did it get him? On trumped up charges, that’s where. I say we spare a thought for this poor man and his family. After all he’s done for the leftards, you’d think they’d show some gratitude, but no. Pathetic, leftards, just pathetic. I bet you also believe that Elvis lives, the CIA killed Kennedy, the US faked the moon landing and the Pope ain't Catholic! Absolutely not, but I’ve always been a firm believer in innocent until proven guilty. Oh, come on! Even the most uneducated among us could tell Thomson's defence arguments were farcical and completely unbelievable. Nonsense. He mentioned another credit card user, who obviously the leftards are trying to hide. He looked just like mr Thomson, but that's just a coincidence. Who is this man, leftards? Mr Thomson is innocent until proven guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt. ;D You people make me sick. There is an appeal process in this country, which Mr Thomson has every right to access under the law of the land. We have every reason to believe Craig Thomson will clear his name in the higher courts. Until then, he is innocent. Moderators, change this thread title, please. It's a lie. The magistrate found him guilty,  FFSFFSFFSFFS   >:( >:( GUILTY

Ban this poster for libel, moderators. He needs to go.

Had this been February 2013 then for some there might have been a reason to get excited about Thommo's conviction (Longy would have masturbated himself into unconsciousness over it) - but it isn't, it's 2014 and Labor aren't in power now so they don't need Thommo's vote to make up numbers.

Aussie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:03pm:

Quote: I answered your's. Matty's an English major, you say?

Yes, good point Aussie.
We probably should make some allowance for him doing English as a "Second" language.

I believe Bulltish is his Primary language. ;)

Craig Thomson finally left speechless
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Jacqueline Maley

You can say many varied and wonderful things about Craig Thomson. But you can't say he doesn't know how to make a speech.

"'Go cut your wrists, or better still, hang yourself,'" was the dramatic opening to Thomson's famous address to Parliament in May 2012.

Thomson was quoting from correspondence sent to him, his staff and his family had received over reports he had used his union credit card to pay for prostitutes.

"'Go out the back. Cut your throat. That's the only way. Have you slashed your wrists yet?''' Thomson continued.

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He paused, inclined his chin upwards and raised an accusatory index finger at then-opposition leader Tony Abbott.

"You have unleashed the lynch mob," he told Abbott.

Thomson swept his hand upwards to indicate the press gallery, which was full - no one was going to miss this show.

"And you have fanned it," he accused.

"And for that, you all, ultimately, are responsible."

Wowsers. Parliamentary business is about 99 per cent procedural motions, drawn-out legislative votes, Dorothy Dixers on the economy and Christopher Pyne-led points of order. This, by contrast, was electrifying, a masterclass in confected moral outrage. Thomson had the mien of an innocent man - by turns sorrowful, enraged and embittered over the injustice he suffered.

He even offered a quote from To Kill a Mockingbird, the Western canon's great classic on wrongful trial.

It was quite the oration. Finally, three years after Fairfax Media first published reports of his corruption, we were hearing from the man alleged to have misused his union credit cards in the worst possible way - on sex, pornographic movies, expensive dinners, cigarettes and bizarrely, firewood - while he was secretary of the Health Services Union.

Fairfax led its front page with the reports in 2009. Thomson denied the claims and sued. Fairfax defended its reporting on the grounds of truth. Thomson, faced with having to defend himself in the witness box, and possibly perjure himself, dropped the case days before a jury trial was scheduled to begin. He agreed to pay Fairfax's costs, which were in the order of $240,000.

This is about as complete a backdown as you get in defamation law.

Of course, Thomson didn't pay Fairfax's costs at all. The Labor Party did, as well as another $100,000-odd for the legal expenses Thomson had clocked up himself during his delusional attempt to right the terrible wrong he claimed had been dealt him.

Labor paid his legal costs because by the time the defamation action was dropped - mid-2011 - it led a minority government. If Thomson had gone bankrupt he would have been banned from Parliament, and Prime Minister Julia Gillard needed Thomson on the floor of the House to maintain power.

Of course, it is worth remembering that the opposition's outrage was slow to arrive. It never raised the claims at the time Fairfax reported them. No questions were asked in Parliament until much later. Thomson only became a target after the hung parliament made him one.

"I didn't realise that this was going to go four years," Thomson told the stone-silent Parliament during his address.

No one did, but Thomson had himself to blame for that. If he hadn't started defamation proceedings, and then lied to colleagues and to a Fair Work Australia investigation about the reasons the case was dropped, the whole thing might have washed dirtily away.

Labor had literally years to deal with the problem. Allegations had been swirling for a long time even before Fairfax's reporting. Fair Work Australia started its own investigation in 2010.

Any party official who had done due diligence would have detected the stench that surrounded Thomson, and yet he was preselected twice - once in 2007 and again in 2010.

The only conclusion voters, and Labor Party members (who ultimately ended up paying for Thomson's expensive legal frolic) can reach is that Labor knew, but it didn't care.

But back to Thomson's speech. They cared now all right, as the party's MPs sat uncomfortable on their benches, listening to Thomson shift blame, accuse others and play, with great passion, the part of the wrongly accused man. His audacity was awe-inspiring.

"In the eyes of many of the public I have already been charged, convicted and sentenced," he said.

"The public will hold these views because of the quite extraordinary media coverage that has taken place."

He had some advice for us journos. "There is a great responsibility in reporting. You need to take that seriously."

He accused his former HSU colleague Marco Belano of setting him up, itself a gross defamation against which Belano was defenceless, because Thomson was able to hide behind parliamentary privilege.

But he saved his best for Abbott, who he said had "trashe

cont.

But he saved his best for Abbott, who he said had "trashed" the rule of law.
"What you have done is not just damage to an individual or their family," he said, his voice quivering with rage.
"You have damaged democracy … you should hang your head in shame … what it shows of that Leader of the Opposition, that man … not only is he unfit to be a prime minister, in my view he's unfit to be an MP."
It was about the best example of narcissistic projection Parliament has ever seen, and Parliament has seen a lot of narcissists squeeze their buttocks on to its leather benches. Despite what Abbott and the Coalition's industrial relations warrior Eric Abetz would like us to think, Thomson does not represent the entirety of the union movement. But he represented the Labor Party, for a long time.
His audacity and blame-shifting, his delusional and dishonest attempts to accuse everyone else but himself for his crimes, were mirrored by Labor at every step.
From his preselection, to the greasy decision by the NSW Labor Party (he thanked Sam Dastyari, Mark Arbib and Karl Bitar in his maiden speech) to pay his legal fees, to Gillard's insistence she had "complete faith" in her MP.
The acting secretary of the HSU, Chris Brown, has said the union will pursue Thomson for the money he stole from it. The total amount of criminal and unauthorised spending is unclear, but according to reports it is anywhere between $28,000 and $90,000.
If the HSU can't recover the money from Thomson, the Labor Party could always reach into its pockets to reimburse the workers he ripped off.
Those pockets have proven deep enough in the past when it comes to Thomson and his misdemeanours.


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As someone who defended Thomsons right to a fair trial, I have to say that he has finally seemed to have had it, and all the crimes he is now convicted of  reflect badly upon himself, but more importantly, and pertinently, very badly upon the Labor Party.

People can dupe you, and innocent people can be convicted, and guilty ones set free, but they are the exceptions, not the rule, and Labor now have another scandal to hang around their necks, that they should have dealt with far more properly than it seems they did, and far sooner.

Whilst all the prejudging from the Lib cheersquad was unseemly, the defending of him by those close enough to him that they should have been able to make a better judgment call, we can now think may have been worse.

Shame Labor Shame.

mozzaok wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 8:02am:

As someone who defended Thomsons right to a fair trial, I have to say that he has finally seemed to have had it, and all the crimes he is now convicted of  reflect badly upon himself, but more importantly, and pertinently, very badly upon the Labor Party. People can dupe you, and innocent people can be convicted, and guilty ones set free, but they are the exceptions, not the rule, and Labor now have another scandal to hang around their necks, that they should have dealt with far more properly than it seems they did, and far sooner. Whilst all the prejudging from the Lib cheersquad was unseemly, the defending of him by those close enough to him that they should have been able to make a better judgment call, we can now think may have been worse. Shame Labor Shame.

well said mozz......I did not say he wasnt entitled to a fair trial.. and talking about what is common knowledge.. doesnt mean he wouldnt get a fair trial....

labor supported him through thick and thin...

even labor stalwart Richo said... don t preselect him...

they were warned...and they did twice...so yes shame labor shame..they stick too hard and fast to the bad guys...look at NSW Labor... and the crooks they have supported..for far too long.

cods wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 8:19am:

mozzaok wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 8:02am: As someone who defended Thomsons right to a fair trial, I have to say that he has finally seemed to have had it, and all the crimes he is now convicted of  reflect badly upon himself, but more importantly, and pertinently, very badly upon the Labor Party. People can dupe you, and innocent people can be convicted, and guilty ones set free, but they are the exceptions, not the rule, and Labor now have another scandal to hang around their necks, that they should have dealt with far more properly than it seems they did, and far sooner. Whilst all the prejudging from the Lib cheersquad was unseemly, the defending of him by those close enough to him that they should have been able to make a better judgment call, we can now think may have been worse. Shame Labor Shame. well said mozz......I did not say he wasnt entitled to a fair trial.. and talking about what is common knowledge.. doesnt mean he wouldnt get a fair trial.... labor supported him through thick and thin... even labor stalwart Richo said... don t preselect him... they were warned...and they did twice...so yes shame labor shame..they stick too hard and fast to the bad guys...look at NSW Labor... and the crooks they have supported..for far too long.

We should anticipate/ensure that Politicians, like everyone else, are dealt with properly, fairly & when the full & due process of the law is afforded, if they are found guilty, then they are dealt with appropriately!

People here happy to see Thommo guilty dont seem to care from the point of view that he did the wrong thing by his union members he was employed to act for, but rather he was found guilty of something and because he was a labor pollie than it was worth it.

cods wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 8:19am:

mozzaok wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 8:02am: As someone who defended Thomsons right to a fair trial, I have to say that he has finally seemed to have had it, and all the crimes he is now convicted of  reflect badly upon himself, but more importantly, and pertinently, very badly upon the Labor Party. People can dupe you, and innocent people can be convicted, and guilty ones set free, but they are the exceptions, not the rule, and Labor now have another scandal to hang around their necks, that they should have dealt with far more properly than it seems they did, and far sooner. Whilst all the prejudging from the Lib cheersquad was unseemly, the defending of him by those close enough to him that they should have been able to make a better judgment call, we can now think may have been worse. Shame Labor Shame. well said mozz......I did not say he wasnt entitled to a fair trial.. and talking about what is common knowledge.. doesnt mean he wouldnt get a fair trial.... labor supported him through thick and thin... even labor stalwart Richo said... don t preselect him... they were warned...and they did twice...so yes shame labor shame..they stick too hard and fast to the bad guys...look at NSW Labor... and the crooks they have supported..for far too long.

SHAME LABOR SHAME.

Verge wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 10:58am:

People here happy to see Thommo guilty dont seem to care from the point of view that he did the wrong thing by his union members he was employed to act for, but rather he was found guilty of something and because he was a labor pollie than it was worth it.

I think the whole point of his conviction is that he was found guilty of defrauding the people he was supposed to represent, which is a far greater wrong than duping strangers............not that both aren't criminal. This maggot was in a position of trust and authority........he poisoned the trust union members had in him in the worst possible way.

viewpoint wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 11:07am:

Verge wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 10:58am: People here happy to see Thommo guilty dont seem to care from the point of view that he did the wrong thing by his union members he was employed to act for, but rather he was found guilty of something and because he was a labor pollie than it was worth it. I think the whole point of his conviction is that he was found guilty of defrauding the people he was supposed to represent, which is a far greater wrong than duping strangers............not that both aren't criminal. This maggot was in a position of trust and authority........he poisoned the trust union members had in him in the worst possible way.

Maybe.  Its been known that business deals etc have been signed sealed and delievered after a night with strippers/hookers.  Not something I have been a part of or condone, but it has been known to happen.

Thommo is covering for someone because at no stage has he been accused of buying hookers for himself, rather just buying hookers.  Did those people he bought them for then do business that was beneficial for those union members?

He should be hanged with a sign around his neck saying

thief & liar