Or is there already a Detroit in Australia ?

"Crime is only growth industry here...."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4QHJ3Ho4QQ

Yes Nail & under Abbott's watch.

It said on the video that government corruption was rampant in Detroit. Doling out millions to corporations with no long term benefit to the community. Alcoa was given 40 mill 2 years ago. Rent-a-job all over again :(

Yes, we've been conned, you and me, into subsidising failed enterprises and much of our money vanished into overseas coffers

When will it occur to our trade-agreement-addicted politicians that across the board, it will be in our interests -- yours, mine and our kids' -- to bring manufacturing back to Oz?

I don't say 'bring back manufacturers' because they're the traitors who put so many Aussies out of work and who grabbed incentives offered by the third world to move manufacturing over there

Most Aussie manufacturers such as Malleys and Simpson were taken over by Electrolux, weren't they?  So Electrolux could outsource to south-east asia -- after which they sold those goods to Aussies who believed they were buying 'real Simpsons' etc.

Simpson and Malleys had to promise not to recommence manufacturing for 25 years or similar when they sold the Simpson brand to Electrolux, if memory serves

Where are the Aussie manufacturers?  Good question

Why did so many political parties aid and assist the forced unemployment of Australians by making it near impossible for anyone to start up a manufacturing company here in Oz?

Then of course, we go back to the start -- to the Lima Declaration of 1975, at which point government sent 30% of Aussie jobs and manufacturing overseas.  And that was just the start.  They've been sending more and more overseas to the point Australians are now mere consumers of overseas crap

Yet politicians of both fake parties pretend to wring their hands about the unemployment situation in Oz.  And they've been doing it for four decades -- all the while knowing EXACTLY the reason for the situation and all the time knowing EXACTLY how to bring employment back so that Aussies can begin manufacturing and earning again

Just think -- starting up production in Australia would provide people with work.  When they have work, they're able to spend.  Isn't that what politicians claims they want?  Isn't it what retailers want?

But there's a problem.  Big problem.  Our government -- regardless of which fake party is taking a turn at destroying us -- have sold us out.  Sold us out repeatedly via these trade-agreements they keep signing

And those trade-agreements don't want Aussies to become self-sufficient, do they?  Course not.  Because if Aussies were self-sufficient and employed in the manufacturing industry here in Oz -- well gee, it would mean Aussies would not buy all the imported crap

Our traitorous governments do deals.  They agree for us to keep on buying crap (because we have no alternative now our own manufacturers have bailed).  And in return, we get to sell dirt out of the ground

Are we getting a good deal?

Unemployment and more unemployment

Crap in every home and the need to keep buying more crap because the crap falls apart ten times faster than the Made in Australia products

Next to no apprenticeships these days

Skills being lost by the hour and the skilled dying now and taking their skills with them because those skills have no place in import-mad Australia

Our land being bought up by the overseas crap-makers

Our residential properties being bought up by the overseas crap-makers

Our rural industries being driven into the ground along with all the sound and fruitful fruit-trees which have been replaced thanks to trade-agreements by dubious cheaper products from again -- overseas

Pork fed on excreta being passed off on Aussies who were never told it comes from China and elsewhere overseas

We've been sold out

And it's not just Geelong that's become Detroit

Try the Sunshine and Gold Coasts

all around this land, in fact

Sold out and left to rot on the vine

We need some viable, ethical political parties to kick the two fakes out.  In fact, I advocate treasonous politicians (most of them imo) be publicly hanged -- after they've been dragged around Australia on the back of a truck so we can all throw bricks at them

Detroit........somewhat of an exaggeration old boy.....................

ive been unfortunate enough to have driven through geelong

its a dump

viewpoint wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

Detroit........somewhat of an exaggeration old boy.....................

take away the center link payments and see what you get :(

PZ547 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 1:49pm:

Yes, we've been conned, you and me, into subsidising failed enterprises and much of our money vanished into overseas coffers When will it occur to our trade-agreement-addicted politicians that across the board, it will be in our interests -- yours, mine and our kids' -- to bring manufacturing back to Oz? I don't say 'bring back manufacturers' because they're the traitors who put so many Aussies out of work and who grabbed incentives offered by the third world to move manufacturing over there Most Aussie manufacturers such as Malleys and Simpson were taken over by Electrolux, weren't they?  So Electrolux could outsource to south-east asia -- after which they sold those goods to Aussies who believed they were buying 'real Simpsons' etc. Simpson and Malleys had to promise not to recommence manufacturing for 25 years or similar when they sold the Simpson brand to Electrolux, if memory serves Where are the Aussie manufacturers?  Good question Why did so many political parties aid and assist the forced unemployment of Australians by making it near impossible for anyone to start up a manufacturing company here in Oz? Then of course, we go back to the start -- to the Lima Declaration of 1975, at which point government sent 30% of Aussie jobs and manufacturing overseas.  And that was just the start.  They've been sending more and more overseas to the point Australians are now mere consumers of overseas crap Yet politicians of both fake parties pretend to wring their hands about the unemployment situation in Oz.  And they've been doing it for four decades -- all the while knowing EXACTLY the reason for the situation and all the time knowing EXACTLY how to bring employment back so that Aussies can begin manufacturing and earning again Just think -- starting up production in Australia would provide people with work.  When they have work, they're able to spend.  Isn't that what politicians claims they want?  Isn't it what retailers want? But there's a problem.  Big problem.  Our government -- regardless of which fake party is taking a turn at destroying us -- have sold us out.  Sold us out repeatedly via these trade-agreements they keep signing And those trade-agreements don't want Aussies to become self-sufficient, do they?  Course not.  Because if Aussies were self-sufficient and employed in the manufacturing industry here in Oz -- well gee, it would mean Aussies would not buy all the imported crap Our traitorous governments do deals.  They agree for us to keep on buying crap (because we have no alternative now our own manufacturers have bailed).  And in return, we get to sell dirt out of the ground Are we getting a good deal? Unemployment and more unemployment Crap in every home and the need to keep buying more crap because the crap falls apart ten times faster than the Made in Australia products Next to no apprenticeships these days Skills being lost by the hour and the skilled dying now and taking their skills with them because those skills have no place in import-mad Australia Our land being bought up by the overseas crap-makers Our residential properties being bought up by the overseas crap-makers Our rural industries being driven into the ground along with all the sound and fruitful fruit-trees which have been replaced thanks to trade-agreements by dubious cheaper products from again -- overseas Pork fed on excreta being passed off on Aussies who were never told it comes from China and elsewhere overseas We've been sold out And it's not just Geelong that's become Detroit Try the Sunshine and Gold Coasts all around this land, in fact Sold out and left to rot on the vine We need some viable, ethical political parties to kick the two fakes out.  In fact, I advocate treasonous politicians (most of them imo) be publicly hanged -- after they've been dragged around Australia on the back of a truck so we can all throw bricks at them

For example, Japan, where wages are higher than here and energy costs exceed ours.  How dumb is that we sell our dirt to Japan for say $10.00 a ton, they jigetty jig it, and flog the end product to the World at $1000.00 a ton.  We need Government to develop programmes so that we do the jiggety jig, which creates jobs, and increases exports.  That is PUP Policy, by the way.

Aussie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:19pm:

PZ547 wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 1:49pm: Yes, we've been conned, you and me, into subsidising failed enterprises and much of our money vanished into overseas coffers When will it occur to our trade-agreement-addicted politicians that across the board, it will be in our interests -- yours, mine and our kids' -- to bring manufacturing back to Oz? I don't say 'bring back manufacturers' because they're the traitors who put so many Aussies out of work and who grabbed incentives offered by the third world to move manufacturing over there Most Aussie manufacturers such as Malleys and Simpson were taken over by Electrolux, weren't they?  So Electrolux could outsource to south-east asia -- after which they sold those goods to Aussies who believed they were buying 'real Simpsons' etc. Simpson and Malleys had to promise not to recommence manufacturing for 25 years or similar when they sold the Simpson brand to Electrolux, if memory serves Where are the Aussie manufacturers?  Good question Why did so many political parties aid and assist the forced unemployment of Australians by making it near impossible for anyone to start up a manufacturing company here in Oz? Then of course, we go back to the start -- to the Lima Declaration of 1975, at which point government sent 30% of Aussie jobs and manufacturing overseas.  And that was just the start.  They've been sending more and more overseas to the point Australians are now mere consumers of overseas crap Yet politicians of both fake parties pretend to wring their hands about the unemployment situation in Oz.  And they've been doing it for four decades -- all the while knowing EXACTLY the reason for the situation and all the time knowing EXACTLY how to bring employment back so that Aussies can begin manufacturing and earning again Just think -- starting up production in Australia would provide people with work.  When they have work, they're able to spend.  Isn't that what politicians claims they want?  Isn't it what retailers want? But there's a problem.  Big problem.  Our government -- regardless of which fake party is taking a turn at destroying us -- have sold us out.  Sold us out repeatedly via these trade-agreements they keep signing And those trade-agreements don't want Aussies to become self-sufficient, do they?  Course not.  Because if Aussies were self-sufficient and employed in the manufacturing industry here in Oz -- well gee, it would mean Aussies would not buy all the imported crap Our traitorous governments do deals.  They agree for us to keep on buying crap (because we have no alternative now our own manufacturers have bailed).  And in return, we get to sell dirt out of the ground Are we getting a good deal? Unemployment and more unemployment Crap in every home and the need to keep buying more crap because the crap falls apart ten times faster than the Made in Australia products Next to no apprenticeships these days Skills being lost by the hour and the skilled dying now and taking their skills with them because those skills have no place in import-mad Australia Our land being bought up by the overseas crap-makers Our residential properties being bought up by the overseas crap-makers Our rural industries being driven into the ground along with all the sound and fruitful fruit-trees which have been replaced thanks to trade-agreements by dubious cheaper products from again -- overseas Pork fed on excreta being passed off on Aussies who were never told it comes from China and elsewhere overseas We've been sold out And it's not just Geelong that's become Detroit Try the Sunshine and Gold Coasts all around this land, in fact Sold out and left to rot on the vine We need some viable, ethical political parties to kick the two fakes out.  In fact, I advocate treasonous politicians (most of them imo) be publicly hanged -- after they've been dragged around Australia on the back of a truck so we can all throw bricks at them For example, Japan, where wages are higher than here and energy costs exceed ours.  How dumb is that we sell our dirt to Japan for say $10.00 a ton, they jigetty jig it, and flog the end product to the World at $1000.00 a ton.  We need Government to develop programmes so that we do the jiggety jig, which creates jobs, and increases exports.  That is PUP Policy, by the way.

Be interesting to see what happens to him at the next election...  8-)

Aussie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 3:19pm:

For example, Japan, where wages are higher than here and energy costs exceed ours.  How dumb is that we sell our dirt to Japan for say $10.00 a ton, they jigetty jig it, and flog the end product to the World at $1000.00 a ton.  We need Government to develop programmes so that we do the jiggety jig, which creates jobs, and increases exports.  That is PUP Policy, by the way.

Whilst presiding over the decline of our value adding industries both sides of government have been feeding multi-national corporations to provide temporary and unsustainable manufacturing jobs as part of their failed manufacturing policies.

They have put all of their money on the one mining horse whilst expecting the house hoarding mentality and the trip down to bunnings to keep the rest of us preoccupied.

Well we have certainly over extended the prosperity credit card and now it's pay back time. The chinese dude who earns two dollars a day with a savings account now wants his money back + interest !!

What about innovation. We could start a new financial sport of flipping holes in the ground.

manufacturing and most jobs will go the way of the dodo in 50 years as robots and automated processes are taking them over. the future will be most of the population recieving a government supported living wage and a small number of affluent creative professionals doing whatever little work there is remaining that isnt able to be automated.

JC Denton wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 6:37pm:

manufacturing and most jobs will go the way of the dodo in 50 years as robots and automated processes are taking them over. the future will be most of the population recieving a government supported living wage and a small number of affluent creative professionals doing whatever little work there is remaining that isnt able to be automated.

You may be right about no jobs, a, government supported living wage, definitely not.
The wage will probably be only at a subsistence level for the bottom 80% of the citizens.

probably

who knows given the sh1tstains that run the world, but a bleak, listless and meaningless existence awaits most of us in 15-20 years

Everyone is concentrating on what is a disappearing industry here. Australians are great at innovation. After all, the first fleet started with a few ships and a tent city.

We have the ability to make Australia a world leader in I.T. for a start. The way forward is education then implementing the clever ideas that come out.

One only has to look at the medical profession to see what a world leader we are in that field.

For God's sake think outside the box and stop crying over what is already gone.

lol world leader in IT

yeah we need more people programming flappy bird esque iphone applications

real useful

JC Denton wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 7:10pm:

lol world leader in IT yeah we need more people programming flappy bird esque iphone applications real useful

Just about every person I know in IT has lost their job.

It's been outsourced to India or there is  cloud storage.

OK your comments re I.T. taken on board, what I am getting at is that we need to approach this problem intelligently.  How did Richard Branson start out?,By identifying a need and filling it. He still does, saw a great story on him on the ABC recently.

Easy - convert the whole shebang into 'waterside' property for the likes of Andrei to buy up for a song, cash up the current residents, and they can retire to the country with cash in the bank.

"Welcome to Geelong Mews, a Division of Geelong Heights Development Incorporated!  For those with a yen to invest in Australia - we have the best oceanside properties available and our prices are perfect for the flush European or Chinese investor."

*turns on bar stool to face second camera...

"Now some people might have been saying things about this 'Geelong Brotherhood Revolutinary Front", with their stated aim of burning out all the carpet baggers... but friends - and I got this direct from president Billy Jack himself... there is NO Geelong Brotherhood and no Guild of Displaced Worker Assassins Group at large!

Fairy tales to frighten little children into going to bed!  NOBODY is going to nationalise or 'take back' Geelong!  Not in the time of THIS development, let me assure you all!

So - let me take you on a tour of Geelong Neo-Soweto - our new development created by Viking Vandalism Corp in concert with Crack House Developments, both Divisions of Downturn Abbott Group... and just brimming with fine house and beautiful views, and all going for a song!

Here is our promotional film while we bring in the drinks and caviar"........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qq3L6EY3zg


Note:-  Not a single 'secondary' from any of these hits.

red baron wrote on Feb 18^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

Everyone is concentrating on what is a disappearing industry here. Australians are great at innovation. After all, the first fleet started with a few ships and a tent city. We have the ability to make Australia a world leader in I.T. for a start. The way forward is education then implementing the clever ideas that come out. One only has to look at the medical profession to see what a world leader we are in that field. For God's sake think outside the box and stop crying over what is already gone.

Unfortunately manufacturing got sidelined by the property spruikers and our governments which abandoned manufacturing went along for a ride which is why manufacturing has been dying for the last 30 years.

Before Ireland's property bubble burst it sucked a lot of money away from manufacturing which it used to pump up a property bubble. When the bubble finally burst manufacturing was irreversibly damaged and there were suburbs full of half completed housing estates :(

The point I am trying to make is that Australia is also now too far gone just like Ireland was. And as all of the corporate welfare handed out to foreign corporations dry up so to will the jobs and the factories. The problem is that aussies never invested for the future unless it was bricks and mortar bullshit  :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiCXsu_4BoA

Now the boomers retire!!!  :D